HOW TO FALL OUT OF A PLANE
Valerie
permission.
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HOW TO FALL OUT OF A PLANE
Believe it or not, people survive parachute jumps without parachutes.
Here, tips for the next time you forget yours.
In 1991, Ohio skydiver Jill Shields fell two miles with a shot chute and
lived, suffering no more than broken bones. Now we won't lie to you:
Follow her lead and you'll probably die. But every edge counts, so here are
skydiver's techniques for boosting your odds. If you make it, drop us a
line.
35,000 FEET (3 MINUTES TO GO)
Though 30,000 to 40,000 feet--typical cruising altitude for cross-country
flights--is pretty high, you'll reach terminal velocity and stop speeding up
after the first 1,600ft. or so. Sure, you'll be traveling 200mph, but only
if you're holding yourself straight up. Go belly-down and spread-eagle like
skydivers do and you'll slow down to 120mph. Better, bend at the waist so
your ass points up and you'll cut your speed to 100mph.
10,000 FEET (1 MINUTE TO GO)
The ass-up position will cause your body to move laterally, in the direction
of your head, by as much as a few miles as you plunge-known in skydiving
circles as tracking. Use this power to avoid big blue splotches. Water,
unlike dirt, is incompressible--a real bad crashpad.
5,000 FEET (30 SECONDS TO GO)
Your best bet, if youcan pull it off, is to angle your descent so you land
moving down a hillside: You'll do a classic stuntman roll and absorb some
of the bone-splintering impact. Track until you find a hill, then unbend
your waist so you stop moving laterally. If you can't find a hill, look for
soft, plowed farmland, big piles of hay, or chef Paul Prudhomme.
500 FEET (3 SECONDS TO GO)
Remember, passed-out drunks and blissfully oblivious kids survive crashes
better than stressed-out adults do, so just relax as much as possible and
give your home planet a big, wet kiss.
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One question...what the hell is a shot chute???
Blue Skies and Big Smiles!
Valerie
http://pages.prodigy.net/firesofheaven
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Valerie
Stephane Peron
> This is an excerpt from Maxim Mag - May 1999...ver batim copied without
> permission.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> HOW TO FALL OUT OF A PLANE
> Believe it or not, people survive parachute jumps without parachutes.
> Here, tips for the next time you forget yours
> One question...what the hell is a shot chute???
I'd say it's a typo... it's probably "shut chute" as in closed, not
opened,
Stef/
D-547
Mike A
this earlier...
Valerie wrote:
>
> This is an excerpt from Maxim Mag - May 1999...ver batim copied without
> permission.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> HOW TO FALL OUT OF A PLANE
> Believe it or not, people survive parachute jumps without parachutes.
> One question...what the hell is a shot chute???
>
> Blue Skies and Big Smiles!
> Valerie
> http://pages.prodigy.net/firesofheaven
>
Livendive
> I'd say it's a typo... it's probably "shut chute" as in closed, not
>opened,
Or they could have meant "shot" as in non-functional, broken, etc.. I read
this article in Maxim a couple weeks ago and thought about posting it myself,
but didn't want to do all the typing for something so silly....thanks Val :-)
Blue stuff,
Dave
Heidi Emick
>
> In 1991, Ohio skydiver Jill Shields fell two miles with a shot chute and
> lived, suffering no more than broken bones. Now we won't lie to you:
> Follow her lead and you'll probably die. But every edge counts, so here are
> skydiver's techniques for boosting your odds. If you make it, drop us a
> line.
>
>
> One question...what the hell is a shot chute???
This happened before I started jumping, but IIRC from the stories that
I've heard, I believe it was a streamering main or a main-reserve
entanglement (bridle wrapped around her arm). I know there are lurkers
out there who could correct me if I'm wrong. She landed in a swamp.
Blues!
--
Heidi Emick, B-21616
Analyst/Programmer
CWRU Registrar's office
Cleveland, Ohio
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http://www.clevelandparachute.com
Valerie
> I read
> this article in Maxim a couple weeks ago and thought about posting it myself,
> but didn't want to do all the typing for something so silly....thanks Val :-)
Yeah, well I type fast and I'm bored at work...so there ;-)~
--
BS and BS!
kallend
live...@aol.com (Livendive) wrote:
>snip
> I read
> this article in Maxim a couple weeks ago and thought about posting it myself,
> but didn't want to do all the typing for something so silly....thanks Val :-)
>
> Dave
>
That's why scanners were invented.
Valerie Lawson
kallend, the omniscient, wrote:
> That's why scanners were invented.
>
> --
> www.iit.edu/~kallend
Next time I get an article like this across the fax I'll instead scan it, send the
file to you and let YOU put it on your web site and be ridiculed because nobody can
read it.
<muttering> smart ass
BS and BS
Valerie
"Is this a meeting of the minds...or a meeting of the mindless?!"
celticjumper
Actually, if you have the right fax software, you colud fax it to a
computer and then cut and paste. no need to have a scanner
Ma Celt
65 sec of freefall time
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Exchange ideas on practically anything (tm).
kallend
software at Best Buy. It even scans crummy faxes and makes MS Word files from
them with about 97% accuracy! Something to do with AI and fuzzy logic. The
21st Century is nearly here :-)
Valerie Lawson wrote (irritably):
>
> kallend, the omniscient, wrote:
>
> > That's why scanners were invented.
> >
>
> Next time I get an article like this across the fax I'll instead scan it, send
the
> file to you and let YOU put it on your web site and be ridiculed because
nobody can
> read it.
>
> <muttering> smart ass
>
> BS and BS
> Valerie
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Valerie
> Omniscient? No - just willing to spend $99 for a Canon scanner with OCR
> software at Best Buy. It even scans crummy faxes and makes MS Word files from
> them with about 97% accuracy! Something to do with AI and fuzzy logic. The
> 21st Century is nearly here :-)
and how would you suggest be the best way to get the article on the web so
that I could make it available to rec.skydiving for those who wanted to read
about "How to Fall Out of a Plane"?
Hmmm, thinking about scanning a fax, converting it to a word file, publishing
it to my website, pulling up rec.skydiving and creating a thread with a plug
for my website, asking people to click there to go to a page on my site
regarding the subject (How to Fall Out of a Plane), asking them also to wait
while it loads...
MMM, no thanks. It'd be worth it if I was desperate to get visitors to my
website, but I'm not. I'm more interested in getting the information out
there the easiest way I see fit. Typing it only took 5 minutes.
Hhhhrrummmppfff.
USPA Skydiver
I mean some have survived some real unbelievable parachute malfunctions, and
yes, from some bad scanning too!!!
USPA Skydiver
Lt. Col. USAF (Not Scanned)!!
kallend wrote in message <7gsr7r$fq6$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>Omniscient? No - just willing to spend $99 for a Canon scanner with OCR
>software at Best Buy. It even scans crummy faxes and makes MS Word files
from
>them with about 97% accuracy! Something to do with AI and fuzzy logic. The
>21st Century is nearly here :-)
>
> Valerie Lawson wrote (irritably):
>>
>> kallend, the omniscient, wrote:
>>
>> > That's why scanners were invented.
>> >
>>
>> Next time I get an article like this across the fax I'll instead scan it,
send
>the
>> file to you and let YOU put it on your web site and be ridiculed because
>nobody can
>> read it.
>>
>> <muttering> smart ass
>>
>> BS and BS
>> Valerie
>
Valerie Lawson
kallend wrote:
> Well, you don't have to make a Word file and publish it to the web, you can
> cut and paste direct from the OCR program into your usenet client and send
> direct to the ng. BTW, I did not suggest that you put it on a web site
> (re-read what I wrote), that idea originated with you. I just suggested
> scanning instead of typing. Of course, you probably type faster than I do
> unless you have arthritis in your fingers like I do :-(
>
> Snorrt.
You're right, the idea did origionate with me. I probably do type faster...but as
much as I do type one day I'm sure I will have arthritis....until then, my
disfunction lies in the fact that I am blonde.
BS and BS
Valerie
Robert Lawton
Wouldn't you want to take the rig off before "landing" so as not to get
squished between rig and earth?
Anyone have any ideas what a person's fall rate would be without the extra
gear?
JAKAL
Valerie wrote in message <7gs7je$eo$1...@news.netunlimited.net>...
Mike Spurgeon
Valerie wrote:
>
> In 1991, Ohio skydiver Jill Shields fell two miles with a shot chute and
> lived, suffering no more than broken bones.
Main reserve entanglement, if memory serves, and she landed in a
swampy/boggy area.
She made a jump a year later, once again, from memory.
kallend
cut and paste direct from the OCR program into your usenet client and send
direct to the ng. BTW, I did not suggest that you put it on a web site
(re-read what I wrote), that idea originated with you. I just suggested
scanning instead of typing. Of course, you probably type faster than I do
unless you have arthritis in your fingers like I do :-(
Snorrt.
In article <7gstgo$hvh$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
Valerie <fireso...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> kallend wrote:
>
> > Omniscient? No - just willing to spend $99 for a Canon scanner with OCR
> > software at Best Buy. It even scans crummy faxes and makes MS Word files
from
> > them with about 97% accuracy! Something to do with AI and fuzzy logic. The
> > 21st Century is nearly here :-)
>
> and how would you suggest be the best way to get the article on the web so
> that I could make it available to rec.skydiving for those who wanted to read
> about "How to Fall Out of a Plane"?
>
> Hmmm, thinking about scanning a fax, converting it to a word file, publishing
> it to my website, pulling up rec.skydiving and creating a thread with a plug
> for my website, asking people to click there to go to a page on my site
> regarding the subject (How to Fall Out of a Plane), asking them also to wait
> while it loads...
>
> MMM, no thanks. It'd be worth it if I was desperate to get visitors to my
> website, but I'm not. I'm more interested in getting the information out
> there the easiest way I see fit. Typing it only took 5 minutes.
>
> Hhhhrrummmppfff.
>
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Groovicool
>> I'd say it's a typo... it's probably "shut chute" as in closed, not
>>opened,
>
>Or they could have meant "shot" as in non-functional, broken, etc.
I opt for "shit chute." Anything that is gonna cause you to have to
track/surf/torpedo down the side of a hill to survive has to be shit. ;o)
blue freshly plowed ones,
arlo
ynot...@my-dejanews.com
Valerie Lawson <fireso...@prodigy.net> wrote:
...
> You're right, the idea did origionate with me. I probably do type
faster...but as
> much as I do type one day I'm sure I will have arthritis....until then, my
> disfunction lies in the fact that I am blonde.
...
A typing story (honest!):
One of my brothers (the jumper) is AF Reserve on a tanker refueling crew
after several years of active duty. He was engaged in a "Rodeo" some time
back, where refueling crews from all over the country get together and
compete for scores on such things as readiness, rendezvouz at a precise
location, altitude and time, and time and accuracy at sticking it in there.
The refueling nozzle in flight. You know what I mean?
The Secretary of the Air Force was on inspection with an entourage of about a
dozen videographers and more support personnel in her wake. She approached
the KC-135 where my brother was kicking chock blocks or some such thing, and
engaged him in some small conversation which was *extensively* videoed and
replayed during the closing ceremonies. There was probably more footage of
him than of anyone other than the Secretary of the United States Air Force.
He confessed afterward that, being the jokester he is, he really had to work
hard to suppress the urge to ask her in front of all those cameras:
"Secretary of the Air Force, eh? So ... how many words a minute can *you*
type?"
tony
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The shortest distance between two points is under construction.
-- Noelie Altito
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kallend
Belly to Earth I would expect a slight increase in drag coefficient which,
combined with the weight reduction, would slow the fall rate. Back of the
envelope estimate for me - about 100mph, for you, 170mph :-).
In article <92604308...@news.remarQ.com>,
david Layne
if nobody pulled?
kallend wrote in message <7gungb$3i8$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
kallend
pair of cylinders increases as they get closer together (legs, arms, bodies
might be considered as cylinders) but not by all that much (Cd around 1.5 when
almost touching, as opposed to 1.2 when far apart). For an open lattice
(approximating a big way) the Cd is around 1.6 based on projected solid area),
increasing to around 2.0 as the lattice gets closed up. This suggests that the
big way would have to be very very big and the jumpers very very close to get
the speed down a whole lot, and I can't see the speed ever getting low enough
the be survivable (unless it funnels and the folks on top get a cushioned
landing).
John Kallend
In article <Oyv5ctJm#GA.295@cpmsnbbsa05>,
Thom
> landing).
Hmm....thats not a bad idea, if your freefalling and find out you forgot
your rig, just tackle one of the other guys out flying, and if you can't
steal his rig during freefall, make sure you stay on top off him and that he
doesn't open the canopy, then the crushing of all his bones will work as a
shock obserber...
ynot...@my-dejanews.com
"Thom" <ma...@usa.net> wrote:
...
> Hmm....thats not a bad idea, if your freefalling and find out you forgot
> your rig, just tackle one of the other guys out flying, and if you can't
> steal his rig during freefall, make sure you stay on top off him and that he
> doesn't open the canopy, then the crushing of all his bones will work as a
> shock obserber...
That's *exactly* what happened in a tandem master fatality last year where the
passenger lived.
tony
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"May a Misguided Platypus lay its Eggs in your Jockey Shorts"
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flo...@email.com
TM, though... someone truly devoted to their work. i'd say... assuming he
had control and it was a conscious effort.
ynot...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message <7gvcqv$o4o$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
TooyT
Wrote:
>Belly to Earth? Head down?
>In article
>Robert Lawton"
>wrote:
>> yadda yadda...
>Wouldn't you want to take the rig off before "landing" so as not to get
>> squished between rig and earth?
>>
>> Anyone have any ideas
***********************************
There is a sublime place few skydivers ever reach, Where the body meets the
earth at 1 G/120 plus to release the spirit to the freedom of eternity :-*
snuffy
SIG: Coyote Flocking with the sheep heh heh
Gimmie tung :-P
Mike Spurgeon
ca. 1977. Linda Walzak (Kretzler) says "Someone has calculated
that when 100 are in a formation, no one will have to pull."
Drew Martin says "Yeah, Linda, and when 200 are in a circle
holding hands, they will go up."
(they were both on the first 100-way several years later)
kallend wrote:
>
> Interesting question. Warning: nerd stuff follows. The drag coefficient of a
> pair of cylinders increases as they get closer together (legs, arms, bodies
> might be considered as cylinders) but not by all that much (Cd around 1.5 when
> almost touching, as opposed to 1.2 when far apart). For an open lattice
> (approximating a big way) the Cd is around 1.6 based on projected solid area),
> increasing to around 2.0 as the lattice gets closed up. This suggests that the
> big way would have to be very very big and the jumpers very very close to get
> the speed down a whole lot, and I can't see the speed ever getting low enough
> the be survivable (unless it funnels and the folks on top get a cushioned
> landing).
>
USPA Skydiver
USPA Skydiver
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