gear
Al
equipment. The guys who got me interested in juming told me not to buy
a high performance chute. They equated it to giving a ferrari to a 16
year old. I would like to avoid spending thousands on equipment which
I will want to upgrade when I start to really get into this. Is there
a middle ground? What should I know? Thanks.
Jerry K.
First, get into skydiving before you start trying to figure out buying
gear. Don't put the cart before the horse. Make some jumps and get
either near to or off of student status before you go there. When you
do get to that point, talk to your jumpmasters and other experienced
skydivers at the dropzone. They will have a far better understanding
on what would be suitable for your future needs.
What you should know is, if money is an issue, consider purchasing
used gear - it's going to take abuse - have a rigger and/or very
experienced skydivers check the gear out for quality & suitability for
your needs vs. price. Getting to the point of upgrading is not a
race. Further, buying gear, new or used, will only be the just one
instance in a long line of instances where you will be spending lots
of money to enable you to skydive. Sometimes you can sell off the
older gear you don't use anymore and recoup some investment, sometimes
you can't. Don't sweat it. Better to spend more for what suitable
than to sacrifice suitability to save some bucks. Your JM's will be
able to discern for you and explain to you what is suitable.
Good luck!
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Bullshit! rent till you get at least your A lic kid. That way you will
be able to make a informed judgement on what you might want to buy and
who from, otherwise it was fairly good advice
coming from a total self centered young asshole like Jerry. <evil grin>
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
No, it's not bullshit. Bullshit is you calling someone else, "kid."
As if you're some experienced skydiver or something. You're not and
never were. Nothing wrong with waiting until the A license except for
the reality that people need to make 50 jumps before they can get that
license and that's a bunch of jumps renting. Nothing wrong with
renting, either but it is, when taking past posts of yours into
consideration, quite a contradiction of your previous lines and stands
on dz's only in it for the buck, bleeding the customer dry, ad naseum.
Nothing wrong with considering options, either but the idea of no one
should ever buy equipment until they have reached that concrete A
license delineation is, as ever, just rhetorical bullshit on your
part. Besides, the guy wasn't wondering WHEN he should buy gear but
curious about WHAT equipment he should consider and it stands to
reason that the JM's and experienced skydivers he would be in contact
with would have a much better handle on not just WHAT he should
consider but also WHEN, as well - not some jackoff who took 80 jumps
before he ever managed to stand up a landing (TRUTH), and who has a
long and sordid history of judging equipment (among many other things)
by the political implications of said gear. Ummm - how many jumps
you have before you got a license, Jinnie? When you get your gear?
And, ummm - how many jumps after that until you actually stood one up,
eh?
>That way you will
>be able to make a informed judgement on what you might want to buy and
>who from,
Nevermind that the question regarded WHAT to consider and this is not
to say that more informed people he might be in contact with at a dz
would not be able to help him make an informed decision in that
regard.
>otherwise it was fairly good advice
>coming from a total self centered young asshole like Jerry. <evil grin>
Oh, the evil grin - thanks - now everyone knows what the emotional
undercurrent to the comment actually is. Shit, take your chatroom
ways back to the RV newsgroup, - somewhere where someone might
actually read your crap without the huge dingleberry watermark under
every word.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Better watch it kid or that fat Yankee chick that talks to bunyap or
whatever will start trying
to thow her weight around again ;->
the unknown flailer
I do it cuz I'm seriously old Jerry----Hell people who are in their
50's like Jimbo are kids to me. I think you are over reacting
again....try inserting a PROZAC between the cheeks of your ass
kid--------might help with that hemmorid problem
Nothing wrong with waiting until the A license except for
> the reality that people need to make 50 jumps before they can get that
> license and that's a bunch of jumps renting.
Not gonna argue about it, the kids thinking about taking up the sport
so its moot.
Just trying to give him some time...Ya don't need to own gear to jump,
we both know that.
I had too many rigs myself but I had a couple of different interests
and a 7 cell main served one of the interests better
>Nothing wrong with
> renting, either but it is, when taking past posts of yours into
> consideration, quite a contradiction of your previous lines and stands
> on dz's only in it for the buck, bleeding the customer dry, ad naseum.
to my way of thinking, it might save a newbie in the long run. Save
them at least one downsize depending on several things
> Nothing wrong with considering options, either but the idea of no one
> should ever buy equipment until they have reached that concrete A
> license delineation is, as ever, just rhetorical bullshit on your
> part. Besides, the guy wasn't wondering WHEN he should buy gear but
> curious about WHAT equipment he should consider and it stands to
> reason that the JM's and experienced skydivers he would be in contact
> with would have a much better handle on not just WHAT he should
> consider but also WHEN, as well - not some jackoff who took 80 jumps
> before he ever managed to stand up a landing (TRUTH), and who has a
> long and sordid history of judging equipment (among many other things)
> by the political implications of said gear. Ummm - how many jumps
> you have before you got a license, Jinnie? When you get your gear?
> And, ummm - how many jumps after that until you actually stood one up,
> eh?
>
>
> >That way you will
> >be able to make a informed judgement on what you might want to buy and
> >who from,
>
> Nevermind that the question regarded WHAT to consider and this is not
> to say that more informed people he might be in contact with at a dz
> would not be able to help him make an informed decision in that
> regard.
Yeah and the longer he's around the dz the more he will learn who and
who not is trustworthy----plus he will see other canopys in action and
have a better ideah on what he might want------>now what one want's and
what one needs is two different things...this is where I'm hoping the
true DZ wizzards have some input-----50 jumps? YEAH the more jumps the
better----it will give the true older wizzards more time to look him
over and make a value judgement on present & potential skills. Good
thing they raised the A from 20 to 50 I'm thinking ;)
> >otherwise it was fairly good advice
> >coming from a total self centered young asshole like Jerry. <evil grin>
>
> Oh, the evil grin - thanks - now everyone knows what the emotional
> undercurrent to the comment actually is. Shit, take your chatroom
> ways back to the RV newsgroup, - somewhere where someone might
> actually read your crap without the huge dingleberry watermark under
> every word.
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
No need, google has taken to telling me what boards my post's go to, my
last went to 5
including Army & Political----Don't know whats up with that Army shit.
I was in the Navy.
I think their must be a lotta cross post on wreck skydiving and google
is just crossing to posts back....Who knows? Not I but nope none to the
RV's....oh well like I give a damn, let the cookie lie where it
crumbles is my philosophy 0~;->
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On 1 Oct 2006 12:04:39 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Jerry K. wrote:
> >> On 28 Sep 2006 11:39:26 -0700, "Al" <albert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No, it's not bullshit. Bullshit is you calling someone else, "kid."
> ...jlk
Whats the matter kid, got some old gear you need to unload on a
unsuspecting newbie? Video business that bad around the DZ now that
Winter is approaching? Or just to many Video Geeks running around in
South Texas? BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA LUV IT.........whine for me urban
crybaby. ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
This seems to worry you more than it worries anyone else. What can
you do about it, Jinnie? I mean, constructive, real world do, that
is.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
Wait, are you trying to use age as a supporting crutch here or as just
another lame excuse. You do both so it's a fair question.
>Hell people who are in their
>50's like Jimbo are kids to me. I think you are over reacting
>again....try inserting a PROZAC between the cheeks of your ass
>kid--------might help with that hemmorid problem
Heheheh - when someone asks about WHAT gear, and gets answered with
checking with his instructors/JM's/ect. for the best info and you get
all bitchy about how this should really be a question of about WHEN -
ain't me, the JM/Instructor/ect. recommender, demanding someone else
ask questions to fit your answers - kinda anal, is all - and clearly
the prozac ain't doing you a bit of good.
>
>
> Nothing wrong with waiting until the A license except for
>> the reality that people need to make 50 jumps before they can get that
>> license and that's a bunch of jumps renting.
>
>Not gonna argue about it, the kids thinking about taking up the sport
>so its moot.
Well, it is kinda hard to top your argument up to now which consists
of you merely writing, "Bullshit" plus some whiny stuff.
>Just trying to give him some time...
As if time is yours to give, pretension boy...er...kid. He wonder
about equipment. He get told to check with the more experienced
people where he jumps. You just say he should wait until some
uncertain time before he even considers the idea. Okay - At the time
how long were you jumping, how many jumps you had, and what licenses
had you already acquired (if any) before you started considering WHAT
to get for equipment.
>Ya don't need to own gear to jump,
>we both know that.
Sure, but it helps. In a variety of areas it makes it more possible
and in the long run, it's just plain smarter.
>I had too many rigs myself but I had a couple of different interests
>and a 7 cell main served one of the interests better
What, you had two? So, if you had two rigs and a couple of different
interests, one interest predicating a 7 cell for some reason, how is
have two, too many?
>
>
>>Nothing wrong with
>> renting, either but it is, when taking past posts of yours into
>> consideration, quite a contradiction of your previous lines and stands
>> on dz's only in it for the buck, bleeding the customer dry, ad naseum.
>
>to my way of thinking, it might save a newbie in the long run.
But then, your "way of thinking" has been often been illustrated as
being the stuff of morons. Hehehheh - weren't you earlier whining
about and blaming your ability in managing to scrape together one
standup landing in 81 jumps on, how's it go, "student no-porosity
canopies?"
>Save
>them at least one downsize depending on several things
I think what we got going on here is you just wanting to have the
affirmation of more people jumping Falcons. You know, "a favorite
canopy of AFF student programs at many dropzones." That Falcon. You
want people to be jumping them longer in the meeger hopes that this'll
keep them from "downsizing," (cue ominous thunder). Nevermind that
the person with the question is asking about WHAT gear to start with -
not downsizing.
>
>> Nothing wrong with considering options, either but the idea of no one
>> should ever buy equipment until they have reached that concrete A
>> license delineation is, as ever, just rhetorical bullshit on your
>> part. Besides, the guy wasn't wondering WHEN he should buy gear but
>> curious about WHAT equipment he should consider and it stands to
>> reason that the JM's and experienced skydivers he would be in contact
>> with would have a much better handle on not just WHAT he should
>> consider but also WHEN, as well - not some jackoff who took 80 jumps
>> before he ever managed to stand up a landing (TRUTH), and who has a
>> long and sordid history of judging equipment (among many other things)
>> by the political implications of said gear. Ummm - how many jumps
>> you have before you got a license, Jinnie? When you get your gear?
>> And, ummm - how many jumps after that until you actually stood one up,
>> eh?
>>
>>
>> >That way you will
>> >be able to make a informed judgement on what you might want to buy and
>> >who from,
And, ummm - getting information at the local dz where he is learning
*isn't*, you know - enabling the ability to make and informed
judgement about those things. What's a matter Jinnie - afraid the guy
is gonna stand up a landing before he gets off student status? That
it? Or is it you're worried he'll blow off those student Falcons
after a couple stand ups in favor of some PD square? That it?
>>
>> Nevermind that the question regarded WHAT to consider and this is not
>> to say that more informed people he might be in contact with at a dz
>> would not be able to help him make an informed decision in that
>> regard.
>
>Yeah and the longer he's around the dz the more he will learn who and
>who not is trustworthy----
This is not to say that if he starts considering getting gear for
himself at some point before you were ever in a position to do that,
that he will somehow not be around the dz, ostensibly not getting that
who and who is not trustworthy intel (which really just sounds a lot
like dz political hooie you're gargling there, Jinnie.) You ever
think that he might, while considering gear, present this gear to, you
know, a rigger, other experienced skydivers, JM's, ect - get their
spin on what would suit his needs? Or does he need experience and
intel as to just who the "trustworthy" recommenders of WHEN to start
considering gear are? That it?
>plus he will see other canopys in action and
>have a better ideah on what he might want
Sure, he'll see canopies coming fast and slow, steep and shallow,
trucks and sports cars. Seeing's believing but that said, you saying
him just observing what's out there landing and being packed is a
better indicator on what is suitable for him than, you know, the
people who are teaching him and jumping with him who might have an
idea as to what is suitable than just WHAT he sees, nevermind your
pretension of somehow knowing just when this WHEN actually should
occur.
>------>now what one want's and
>what one needs is two different things...this is where I'm hoping the
>true DZ wizzards have some input
Gee, you think they don't? And even if they don't, that's this
platitude of hope somehow is relevant? Your hope here is just more
coiled bluster. So, g'head, Jinne - you go ahead on just how much you
hope the "true DZ wizzards have some input," and, of course, how they
clearly won't because this is now and now is no good, now that you no
longer can.
>----50 jumps? YEAH the more jumps the
>better----
Like, how much. 80? Wait, Since you ostensbly first stood one up
under a Falcon AFF student canopy, and students might well be using
the Falcon while they ponder WHEN to begin equipment pondering, one
would imagine that they might stand up their first landing in
something less than 80 jumps - and you wouldn't like that. Now if
they are jumping old, ragged out "no-porosity" student canopies like
the ones you were unable to stand up...wait a sec - there are numerous
examples of students standing up ragged out student canopy (nevermind
the porosity, porous or no) in under 80 jumps so, no - you're just
hoping he buys a Falcon from the dropzone. That it?
>t will give the true older wizzards more time to look him
>over and make a value judgement on present & potential skills. Good
>thing they raised the A from 20 to 50 I'm thinking ;)
Yo, Jinnie - it's 25 for the A. You believe everything I throw out
there? Dumbass.
>
>
>> >otherwise it was fairly good advice
>> >coming from a total self centered young asshole like Jerry. <evil grin>
>>
>> Oh, the evil grin - thanks - now everyone knows what the emotional
>> undercurrent to the comment actually is. Shit, take your chatroom
>> ways back to the RV newsgroup, - somewhere where someone might
>> actually read your crap without the huge dingleberry watermark under
>> every word.
>>
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk
>
>No need, google has taken to telling me what boards my post's go to, my
>last went to 5
>including Army & Political----Don't know whats up with that Army shit.
>I was in the Navy.
>I think their must be a lotta cross post on wreck skydiving and google
>is just crossing to posts back....Who knows? Not I but nope none to the
>RV's....oh well like I give a damn, let the cookie lie where it
>crumbles is my philosophy
"jimmy SKP60759
29 FT Shasta Travel Master
a 1997 retired rental unit
Retired Skydiver National bronze..."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20001001203251.10588.00000240%40...
I having 8 jumps and also having a triple falcon, double eagle and
* * *
None lately in any case. How come? Heard one abridged Pops National
bronze story and you heard 'em all? That it?
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
>Jerry K. wrote:
>> On 1 Oct 2006 12:04:39 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
>> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Jerry K. wrote:
>> >> On 28 Sep 2006 11:39:26 -0700, "Al" <albert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> No, it's not bullshit. Bullshit is you calling someone else, "kid."
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk
> Whats the matter kid, got some old gear you need to unload on a
>unsuspecting newbie?
Actually, I still have my first rig, with first main and first
reserve. I'm not the one in this exchange who sold his gear. That
would be???
>Video business that bad around the DZ now that
>Winter is approaching?
Heheheheh - jumped my ass off this weekend Jinnie. What were you
doing?
>Or just to many Video Geeks running around in
>South Texas?
There's never enough. More are needed. That's why they all get paid
so well - specialized skill and in short supply. No, wait. It's
cause we got them intimidated.
>BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA LUV IT.........whine for me urban
>crybaby. ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)
I only made 12 jumps this weekend. That what you're looking for?
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Who payed for them is what I'm looking for you little mootch
the unknown flailer
Keep hollering fire till the IRS comes along and collects the bottom
feeding girly boys.
You are just one---They got that other queer last year ;)
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On 6 Oct 2006 23:23:47 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Jerry K. wrote:
> >> On 1 Oct 2006 12:04:39 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> >> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
> What, you had two? So, if you had two rigs and a couple of different
> interests, one interest predicating a 7 cell for some reason, how is
> have two, too many?
>
> >Save
> >them at least one downsize depending on several things
>
> I think what we got going on here is you just wanting to have the
> affirmation of more people jumping Falcons. You know, "a favorite
> canopy of AFF student programs at many dropzones." That Falcon. You
> want people to be jumping them longer in the meeger hopes that this'll
> keep them from "downsizing," (cue ominous thunder). Nevermind that
> the person with the question is asking about WHAT gear to start with -
> not downsizing.
Yeah a Falcon at at least 1.5 to one would be a good start...or perhaps
a TRI
> >> Nothing wrong with considering options, either but the idea of no one
> >> should ever buy equipment until they have reached that concrete A
> >> license delineation is, as ever, just rhetorical bullshit on your
> >> part. Besides, the guy wasn't wondering WHEN he should buy gear but
> >> curious about WHAT equipment he should consider and it stands to
> >> reason that the JM's and experienced skydivers he would be in contact
> >> with would have a much better handle on not just WHAT he should
> >> consider but also WHEN, as well - not some jackoff who took 80 jumps
> >> before he ever managed to stand up a landing (TRUTH), and who has a
> >> long and sordid history of judging equipment (among many other things)
> >> by the political implications of said gear. Ummm - how many jumps
> >> you have before you got a license, Jinnie? When you get your gear?
> >> And, ummm - how many jumps after that until you actually stood one up,
> >> eh?
you believe that?
Or is it you're worried he'll blow off those student Falcons
> after a couple stand ups in favor of some PD square? That it?
I've seen kids stand up their first landing, and never come back. If he
shows up
I wish him well....would prefer he did a good PLF though
>
> >>
> >> Nevermind that the question regarded WHAT to consider and this is not
> >> to say that more informed people he might be in contact with at a dz
> >> would not be able to help him make an informed decision in that
> >> regard.
> >
> >Yeah and the longer he's around the dz the more he will learn who and
> >who not is trustworthy----
>
> This is not to say that if he starts considering getting gear for
> himself at some point before you were ever in a position to do that,
> that he will somehow not be around the dz, ostensibly not getting that
> who and who is not trustworthy intel (which really just sounds a lot
> like dz political hooie you're gargling there, Jinnie.) You ever
> think that he might, while considering gear, present this gear to, you
> know, a rigger, other experienced skydivers, JM's, ect - get their
> spin on what would suit his needs? Or does he need experience and
> intel as to just who the "trustworthy" recommenders of WHEN to start
> considering gear are? That it?
he shouldn't be considering gear at all right now, thats putting the
cart before the horse.
>
>
> >plus he will see other canopys in action and
> >have a better ideah on what he might want
>
> Sure, he'll see canopies coming fast and slow, steep and shallow,
> trucks and sports cars. Seeing's believing but that said, you saying
> him just observing what's out there landing and being packed is a
> better indicator on what is suitable for him than, you know, the
> people who are teaching him and jumping with him who might have an
> idea as to what is suitable than just WHAT he sees.
#1 We neither one know who his teachers will be...and not all are good,
some are just in it for the beer & money like you and your little
friends. Being around a while will give the kid
something to temper all the input with...Final decision is the jumpers
after all, nobodys
shoving him out of the airplane & unless he's a Tandem wennie its his
show when it comes to managing the canopy.
>
>
> >------>now what one want's and
> >what one needs is two different things...this is where I'm hoping the
> >true DZ wizzards have some input
>
> Gee, you think they don't?
Not always, the money grubbers far outnumber them, it takes time to
sort out who's
real and who's just greedy----the sports filled with passive agressives
just trying to break it off in the unwary.
>, g'head, Jinne - you go ahead on just how much you
> hope the "true DZ wizzards have some input," and, of course, how they
> clearly won't because this is now and now is no good, now that you no
> longer can.
dunno about that, I bother you and if experiance tells me
anything.....its that
you are not alone. Min 10X or even 10X square on bothering every bottom
feeder
within reading distance---not to mention one fat chick up in N.J.
>
>
> >----50 jumps? YEAH the more jumps the
> >better----
>
> Like, how much. 80?
the more the better, depending on what he ends up jumping!
> Yo, Jinnie - it's 25 for the A. You believe everything I throw out
> there? Dumbass.
they just raised it 5 jumps? Man are they screwing the DZO's
HAHAHAHAHAHA
> >> >otherwise it was fairly good advice
> >> >coming from a total self centered young asshole like Jerry. <evil grin>
> >>
> >> Oh, the evil grin -
> >> ...bsrp
> >> ...jlk
Cain't help it if I have a chickenshit grin, just like you cain't help
being a bottom feeder.
KID
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On 6 Oct 2006 23:23:47 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Jerry K. wrote:
> >> On 1 Oct 2006 12:04:39 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> >> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
some good shit advice for a wuffo to rent a while
> >> >Jerry K. got pissed off & wrote:
> >> >> On 28 Sep 2006 11:39:26 -0700,
> >> >> >I am trying to get into skydiving and need some advice for buying
> >> >> >equipment.
> >> >> ...bsrp
> >> >> ...jlk
Take up Video, even a drunk monkey could do it----then you will have an
excuse not being able to get in or taking a Grip
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA.
`~O I forgot you are already a no grip
bitch~
Normally I would say a Falcon whatever you do don't buy a Falcon--so
many skygods cain't seem to fly them right------------>O I forgot
again, since its you, sell yer gear & BUY A
LITTLE BITCH ASS OVERLOADED ZP to match yer personality HOHOHO HA HA
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On 6 Oct 2006 23:23:47 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
> Yo, Jinnie - it's 25 for the A. You believe everything I throw out
> there? Dumbass.
> ...jlk
Are you kidding, after you forgot to mention your teams first medal was
an intermediate and not expert and you in fact were not even part of
the Team at the time? I looked the A up online, its 25. Don't seem
right to raise the A only 5 and the D by 300------Oh well the BOD
always has to fuk somebody I guess. It kinda screws the coachs & future
D's though.....maybe they realized that was a bad idea and they were
creating to many skygods too too quick--- What they should have done
was raised the A to 50 then upped the B & C a few readjusting the D to
about 250 then allow no one under a D to coach, no endorcement
involved. Somebody needs to cut their donuts off at those meetings. I'm
thinking sugar shock effects their thinking....At first I thought it
was the GM plan that corrupted their thinking and it was for a long
time----but just raising the A by 5 jumps kinda screws the GM/DZO's cuz
they cain't get kickbacks on coaching jumps as long seems to me. and
they stepped on their own dicks cuz being $20 whores, theirs a longer
lag on the $20 pops between C & D now.Shit maybe they need to pay me to
coach their politically correct butt's-----------
WOW THAT WOULD MAKE ME A PIMP wuddn't it? HAW HAW HAW
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On 7 Oct 2006 17:52:46 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
> Actually, I still have my first rig, with first main and first
> reserve.
GEEZUS ARE YOU CHEAP
bet you don't get much Poontang, OH I FORGOT---you swing the other way
0~;->
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
What, you're essentially screaming, "Teacher!" until some wing of the
government steps in and (all fantasies aside) levels some sort of
sanction or punishment at some sector or individuals who offend your
politically correct (using the term loosly) sensibilities? All that
intimated by your supposition that I need to worry about someone else
"throwing their weight around" because supposedly this will bring
about some sort of tax law armageddon upon my head? Why don't you
just call the IRS up and tell 'em to investigate and/or bust my
"bottom feeding" ways, eh? 'Cause action beyond the strength (so to
speak) of what you manage to write in hear is tantamount to wishfull
thinking on anyone's part? So, keep on "hollering fire," Jinnie - you
just go ahead and in the meantime, between the hollers, spit in one
hand and wish with the other. That how it go? Like, I am so scared.
<snip for future fuckwith or substitution for argument>
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
>Jerry K. wrote:
>> On 6 Oct 2006 23:23:47 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
>> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Jerry K. wrote:
>> >> On 1 Oct 2006 12:04:39 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
>> >> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>> What, you had two? So, if you had two rigs and a couple of different
>> interests, one interest predicating a 7 cell for some reason, how is
>> have two, too many?
>>
> ~only need one to jump, the other is just dead weight~
>> >Save
>> >them at least one downsize depending on several things
>>
>> I think what we got going on here is you just wanting to have the
>> affirmation of more people jumping Falcons. You know, "a favorite
>> canopy of AFF student programs at many dropzones." That Falcon. You
>> want people to be jumping them longer in the meeger hopes that this'll
>> keep them from "downsizing," (cue ominous thunder). Nevermind that
>> the person with the question is asking about WHAT gear to start with -
>> not downsizing.
>
>Yeah a Falcon at at least 1.5 to one would be a good start...or perhaps
>a TRI
Like, you have a fucking clue as to what would be a good start for
anyone, let alone some nameless individual you have never met, seen,
been in the air with, or observed landing. Give it up, dingleberry -
you're just guessing and the guy's instructors, do ya think that they
might just be a bit more qualified and INFORMED than your provenly and
demonstratively propensity for uninformed, if not boneheaded,
supposition, suggestion, and decision, nevermind action?
Nevermind that you had already missed the boat as to WHAT and had
already gone off on a crying jag concerning WHEN. Now you got it all
figured out that he needs to load a Falcon at over 1.5: 1 or maybe a
ZP canopy? Carefull Jinnie - you don't like ZP, remember? Puts the
canopy pilot into a whole new realm of political incorrectness.
>
>
>> >> Nothing wrong with considering options, either but the idea of no one
>> >> should ever buy equipment until they have reached that concrete A
>> >> license delineation is, as ever, just rhetorical bullshit on your
>> >> part. Besides, the guy wasn't wondering WHEN he should buy gear but
>> >> curious about WHAT equipment he should consider and it stands to
>> >> reason that the JM's and experienced skydivers he would be in contact
>> >> with would have a much better handle on not just WHAT he should
>> >> consider but also WHEN, as well - not some jackoff who took 80 jumps
>> >> before he ever managed to stand up a landing (TRUTH), and who has a
>> >> long and sordid history of judging equipment (among many other things)
>> >> by the political implications of said gear. Ummm - how many jumps
>> >> you have before you got a license, Jinnie? When you get your gear?
>> >> And, ummm - how many jumps after that until you actually stood one up,
>> >> eh?
>
>you believe that?
That, as in every sentence and assertion above? Well, actually, no.
I still find it hard to believe you were so without the ability to
listen to your instructors or to just plain learn that you took 80
jumps before you stood one up.
>
> Or is it you're worried he'll blow off those student Falcons
>> after a couple stand ups in favor of some PD square? That it?
>
>I've seen kids stand up their first landing, and never come back. If he
>shows up
>I wish him well....would prefer he did a good PLF though
Hell, what with how long it took you to stand one up as an indicator
of future time in the sport, you should still be jumping and continue
on perhaps long after anyone in "USPA2000" would ever be capable.
I think you're just here giving expression to your fear.
>>
>> >>
>> >> Nevermind that the question regarded WHAT to consider and this is not
>> >> to say that more informed people he might be in contact with at a dz
>> >> would not be able to help him make an informed decision in that
>> >> regard.
>> >
>> >Yeah and the longer he's around the dz the more he will learn who and
>> >who not is trustworthy----
>>
>> This is not to say that if he starts considering getting gear for
>> himself at some point before you were ever in a position to do that,
>> that he will somehow not be around the dz, ostensibly not getting that
>> who and who is not trustworthy intel (which really just sounds a lot
>> like dz political hooie you're gargling there, Jinnie.) You ever
>> think that he might, while considering gear, present this gear to, you
>> know, a rigger, other experienced skydivers, JM's, ect - get their
>> spin on what would suit his needs? Or does he need experience and
>> intel as to just who the "trustworthy" recommenders of WHEN to start
>> considering gear are? That it?
>
>he shouldn't be considering gear at all right now, thats putting the
>cart before the horse.
Which is pretty much what I said in the first place, dinglberry,
metaphor and all. Guy asks about WHAT and you start flapping your
wrists about WHEN and further, start opining about who is
"trustworthy" or not. Skydiving was just one, giant, and bitter pill
for you, eh?
>
>>
>>
>> >plus he will see other canopys in action and
>> >have a better ideah on what he might want
>>
>> Sure, he'll see canopies coming fast and slow, steep and shallow,
>> trucks and sports cars. Seeing's believing but that said, you saying
>> him just observing what's out there landing and being packed is a
>> better indicator on what is suitable for him than, you know, the
>> people who are teaching him and jumping with him who might have an
>> idea as to what is suitable than just WHAT he sees.
>
>#1 We neither one know who his teachers will be...and not all are good,
While this may well be accurate in the general sense, this is not to
say that they all are not "good," and further, so you got this fear
now that the suggestion that he check with his instructors at the dz
that he'll automatically be submitting himself to the will of what
potentially might not be "good." You want to tell us who he should
talk to? No, wait - you've already demonstrated your pretension of
knowing better than anyone else by asserting the idea that he should
get himself a Falcon or a Triathlon. Yep, Jinnie knows better than
the people who know the guy, jumping with him, and at the dz. <feel
free to ignore the sarcasm and snip and paste so you can do the "Thank
you, glad you agree, ect" monkey dance.>
>some are just in it for the beer & money like you and your little
>friends.
No, that's not true. Me and my friends are in it for the sole purpose
of ruining, if not destroying the sport. Pay attention.
>Being around a while will give the kid
>something to temper all the input with...Final decision is the jumpers
>after all, nobodys
>shoving him out of the airplane & unless he's a Tandem wennie its his
>show when it comes to managing the canopy.
Right, and the suggestion was that he not decide on things now but to
talk to the more experienced people at the dropzone but this isn't
good enough for your politically motivated emotions. You gotta make a
point of bitching about some element which, because the idea of their
existance being outside the realm of what you prefer, must therefore
be geared up to do nothing but provide advice, information, or even
gear which might fall outside of the realm of gear you prefer - all
the height of political correctness. How 'bout this - why not a
Falcon? I mean, it's a canopy of preference for AFF training at many
dropzones. You got a problem if some skydiver with video experience
who never met the guy wondering about gear suggests that canopy for
him?
To the guy wondering about gear:
Yo! You need a Falcon! What's that? You flew one a few times and
were underwhelmed? Your instructors suggesting some other canopy's
more suitable? To hell with them - what do they know? I've skydived
in the 90's and you need a Falcon!
>>
>>
>> >------>now what one want's and
>> >what one needs is two different things...this is where I'm hoping the
>> >true DZ wizzards have some input
>>
>> Gee, you think they don't?
>
>Not always, the money grubbers far outnumber them,
This is little more than comforting rhetoric on your part. You're not
on dropzones and haven't been to a single one in years. You have no
clue and no basis for contemporary experience. I mean, you might have
some empirical experience based on the short time you were in the
sport which concluded for the greater part more than ten years ago,
but if you want to cite that fact as the cornerstone of your
experience supporting that idea, then you have to admit that back when
you were jumping that the "money grubbers" far outnumbered the
instructors who might well have been in a position to provide for the
person wondering about gear good input, if it were not for these said
"money grubbers." Which, of course, casts your whole "how great it
was in the 90's" train of rhetorical bullshit, pretty much down the
toilet - where it should have gone in the first place.
>it takes time to
>sort out who's
>real and who's just greedy----the sports filled with passive agressives
>just trying to break it off in the unwary.
See above - what you assert vs. what is real has a divergence factor
of rhetorical proportions. How 'bout those 90's, eh?
U-fucking-topia, uh huh.
>
>
>
>>, g'head, Jinne - you go ahead on just how much you
>> hope the "true DZ wizzards have some input," and, of course, how they
>> clearly won't because this is now and now is no good, now that you no
>> longer can.
>
> dunno about that, I bother you
No, you hope you do because that provides for you some level of having
an effect, a lame demonstration of "power," and in reality, it's just
a cry for help. No, it's more towards amusement than bother but what
you have a problem with is the idea that it's not so much people
laughing with you but the worry that some might be laughing at you.
This is, you forget, performance art at its most absurd. Relax and
try to ignore the mutually assured killfile.
>and if experiance tells me
>anything.....its that
>you are not alone.
As was so often demonstrated in the past, has so often been
highlighted in here, and will with little doubt be often demonstrated
in the future, what experience tells you and what it taught you are,
while often comparable, hugely impractical.
>Min 10X or even 10X square on bothering every bottom
>feeder
>within reading distance---not to mention one fat chick up in N.J.
Keep the faith, Jinnie - if botherings (or just that belief) is all
you got for succor, then who is anyone to try and take that one,
comfortably numbing article of faith away?
>>
>>
>> >----50 jumps? YEAH the more jumps the
>> >better----
>>
>> Like, how much. 80?
>
> the more the better, depending on what he ends up jumping!
What if he ends up jumping, say, a Falcon? Now - what if he ends up
jumping a Saber?
>
>
>
>> Yo, Jinnie - it's 25 for the A. You believe everything I throw out
>> there? Dumbass.
>
>
>they just raised it 5 jumps? Man are they screwing the DZO's
>HAHAHAHAHAHA
What, you'd rather have them screwing the jumpers?
>
>
>
>
>> >> >otherwise it was fairly good advice
>> >> >coming from a total self centered young asshole like Jerry. <evil grin>
>> >>
>> >> Oh, the evil grin -
>> >> ...bsrp
>> >> ...jlk
>
>Cain't help it if I have a chickenshit grin, just like you cain't help
>being a bottom feeder.
> KID
Can't help being current. Well, that ain't true - I could stop,
afterall. Since you're not current, could you start?
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
>Jerry K. wrote:
>> On 6 Oct 2006 23:23:47 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
>> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>> Yo, Jinnie - it's 25 for the A. You believe everything I throw out
>> there? Dumbass.
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk
>
>Are you kidding, after you forgot to mention your teams first medal was
>an intermediate and not expert and you in fact were not even part of
>the Team at the time?
Keeping banging your head against that wall Jinnie - saying it's so
don't make it so - as it has so often been demonstrated in the past.
I never even brought up that team's medal - someone else did. The
medal in question's classification was pointed to on the website, if
you bothered to look at the website. And, not only that, when the
medal was mentioned by someone else and the supposed "forgetting to
mention" which you are alluding to here was supposedly made, it
concerned a medal earned by a team I was not on. Shit Jinnie, I think
I've probably neglected to mention the probably thousands of skydivers
who have likely earned tens of thousands ot medals over the years but
let's just focus on one here - how 'bout that "National Medal" of
yours and the not just once but often not described as being earned at
a POPS meet, eh? It was the subject at hand, afterall, when Kallend
had his question about the classification of that medal mentioned
which was earned by that team I was not on, as if the supposed
existance of such in any way lessened the reality that you had on
numerous occasions forgotten to mention your medal's classification.
>I looked the A up online, its 25. Don't seem
>right to raise the A only 5 and the D by 300------
So, what's wrong with it if it "don't seem right?"
>Oh well the BOD
>always has to fuk somebody I guess. It kinda screws the coachs & future
>D's though.....maybe they realized that was a bad idea and they were
>creating to many skygods too too quick---
Maybe it was just a bit deeper than that.
>What they should have done
>was raised the A to 50 then upped the B & C a few readjusting the D to
>about 250 then allow no one under a D to coach, no endorcement
>involved.
>Somebody needs to cut their donuts off at those meetings. I'm
>thinking sugar shock effects their thinking....
And what the fuck did you do to perhaps make an attempt in bringing
this about? Armchair quarterbacking. Lame, Jinnie, lame.
>At first I thought it
>was the GM plan that corrupted their thinking and it was for a long
>time----
>but just raising the A by 5 jumps kinda screws the GM/DZO's cuz
>they cain't get kickbacks on coaching jumps as long seems to me. and
>they stepped on their own dicks cuz being $20 whores, theirs a longer
>lag on the $20 pops between C & D now.Shit maybe they need to pay me to
>coach their politically correct butt's-----------
Yeah, kinda hard to understand how if they're only in it for the money
they do things which might lessen the bottom line. Think it might be
just a sleight of hand, you know - get you to lay off them?
>
>WOW THAT WOULD MAKE ME A PIMP wuddn't it? HAW HAW HAW
Naw, you'd still be a dingleberry - no washing that off.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
Rest assured somebody did. Maybe even me or the dropzone or somebody
else. How is this, where the money comes from, in any way change the
reality of 12 jumps occurring, which was what you got when you were
looking for me to whine about something? You got a problem? What,
you only made 6 jumps? Three? Less?
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
>Jerry K. wrote:
>> On 7 Oct 2006 17:52:46 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
>> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>> Actually, I still have my first rig, with first main and first
>> reserve.
>
>GEEZUS ARE YOU CHEAP
>bet you don't get much Poontang, OH I FORGOT---you swing the other way
>0~;->
You just wish I did, sweetie pie. Not me with a sordid history of
bunking with sailors, let alone a night of sucking wine coolers with
your Navy instructor on his bunk.
Oh yeah, not so cheap to sell off my gear trying to get my money back,
eh? Yeah, I still got my first rig, still got my 2nd one, too. Sold
off my Batwing after I had put roughly three times the number of jumps
on it you ever made ever but I still got that Saber I bought in 1995-
great canopy. You still got your Falcon? Or you sell it to some
drozpone needing student mains for their AFF program.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On 6 Oct 2006 23:23:47 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Jerry K. wrote:
> >> On 1 Oct 2006 12:04:39 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> >> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
> >> >Bullshit! rent till you get at least your A lic kid.
> >>
> >> No, it's not bullshit. Bullshit is you calling someone else, "kid."
> >> As if you're some experienced skydiver or something. You're not and
> >> never were.
> >
> >I do it cuz I'm seriously old Jerry----
>
> Wait, are you trying to use age as a supporting crutch here or as just
> another lame excuse. You do both so it's a fair question.
> ...jlk
Nah except for being banged up & a bit creaky from a lifetime of using
my body hard
I like old age and all the perks & discounts that come along with being
a seriously senior citizen. As far as saying what you want when you get
old, I've been doing that since I got out
of the military 36 years ago so nothing has changed there.... Yup Old
Age ain't all its
cracked up to be, specially if you're trying to communicate with USTA
Drama Queens
like yourself....I mean here are some young guys in their 20's 30's and
40's that
fall apart like teenage girls & start whining instead of sucking it up
and acting like men.
tsk tsk tsk----you don't know the joy it gives me to work yawl into a
frenzy. ;-*
lugnutes
> What, you're essentially screaming, "Teacher!" until some wing of the
> government steps in and (all fantasies aside) levels some sort of
> sanction or punishment at some sector or individuals who offend your
> politically correct (using the term loosly) sensibilities?
Huh? Can anyone tell me what Jer.K. just said?
the unknown flailer
>
> Rest assured somebody did.
there it is, you're a admitted whore.
Maybe even me or the dropzone or somebody
> else. How is this, where the money comes from, in any way change the
> reality of 12 jumps occurring, which was what you got when you were
> looking for me to whine about something? You got a problem? What,
> you only made 6 jumps? Three? Less?
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
Zero you know I'm retired due to a disability from a CVA stroke---I
just sat on the porch listening to Classical music on XM radio while
drinking Shiner Bock & shooting squirrels in the haunch with a BB
pistol. Waiting for you to get home and try to catch up with what I
think and reply in a flurry. Yup posting a opinion on wreck skydiving
is kind of like popping bird seed stealing squirrels in the ass from a
rocking chair out on the front porch heh heh! HEY JERRY, THEY GIT MAD
ALSO
~life is good~
;)P
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
>Jerry K. wrote:
>> On 6 Oct 2006 23:23:47 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
>> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Jerry K. wrote:
>> >> On 1 Oct 2006 12:04:39 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
>> >> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>> >> >Bullshit! rent till you get at least your A lic kid.
>> >>
>> >> No, it's not bullshit. Bullshit is you calling someone else, "kid."
>> >> As if you're some experienced skydiver or something. You're not and
>> >> never were.
>> >
>> >I do it cuz I'm seriously old Jerry----
>>
>> Wait, are you trying to use age as a supporting crutch here or as just
>> another lame excuse. You do both so it's a fair question.
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk
>
>Nah except for being banged up & a bit creaky from a lifetime of using
>my body hard
>I like old age and all the perks & discounts that come along with being
>a seriously senior citizen.
So, it's the supporting crutch angle today. Got news for ya, Jinnie -
you ain't the first or even only "seriously old" individual out there
- it doesn't make you unique or special. Hell, there's some
"seriously old" skydivers still out there jumping and having a great
time at it.
>As far as saying what you want when you get
>old, I've been doing that since I got out
>of the military 36 years ago so nothing has changed there....
Shit, with your habit of regularly stepping in it, seems more like
it's not so much a matter of saying what you want but more along the
lines of not having any control over the matter.
>Yup Old
>Age ain't all its
>cracked up to be, specially if you're trying to communicate with USTA
>Drama Queens
>like yourself....
Naw, you can't lay off that inability on age nor can it be laid off on
that which you're supposedly trying to communicate with. That's all a
reflection of your own inabilities but that sad reality comes down to
personal responsibility, a concept decidedly foreign, if not repellant
to you if past example is any indicator. You've been trying to do it
on the cheap in some corner of the usenet, clearly preferring the
medium because of the total lack of risk and clear amount of safety
there is, hiding behind a computer screen. Nope, it's not old age but
no balls which is keeping you from attempting your act live on a
dropzone - you know, the real world as opposed to this electronic
newsgroup.
>I mean here are some young guys in their 20's 30's and
>40's that
>fall apart like teenage girls & start whining instead of sucking it up
>and acting like men.
Sorry, Jinnie - as much as you like typifying the absolute rejection
of your bullshit as anything other than what it is by describing it as
representitive of perhaps some weaker caste or supposedly lesser
segment of society, this still does not change the absolute rejection
of said bullshit, nor does it change the rationale behind the
rejection. You want people to stand around and listen, give attaboys,
and nod their head in affirmation of whatever personna of the day or
moment you're trying to present here then you might consider trying
your act somewhere where your words said in the past, nevermind the
numerous and past boneheaded maneuvers in skydiving, are not realized,
remembered, or even retrievable to wave in your face as a counterpoint
to whatever bit of hemmoroidal crap you happen to be shrieking about
at the moment
>tsk tsk tsk----you don't know the joy it gives me to work yawl into a
>frenzy.
Oh, I gotta idea. It's pretty much descended to the affirmation
dingleberrys revel in because someone is taking the time to give them
attention, nevermind the nature of the attention coming down to
pedantic ridicule, disdain, and disrespect. One of those, "No such
thing as bad press," things, I guess. That said----you don't know the
joy it gives me to rake self-absorbed dingleberries over the coals
with, in part and in combination: reality, perspective, and their own
words, and watch them do the monkey dance. Dance Monkey!
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
I believe that was called doublespeak back during the Reagan era...Its
what happens
when you try to talk all fancy & important when you're really nothing
but another dumb-ass.
Mike Spurgeon
There's only two people that care what he said, and they've succeeded in
equaling the crossposts in annoyance value.
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
If it makes you feel better about yourself and your circumstances,
Jinnie - you keep on repeating that, over and over. Besides, whores
don't force people to give 'em money like I do. I'm more of an armed
robber if you must assign names for anything other than what it
actually is in reality. All you got to work with here is me asserting
I skydived and somebody paid for it - maybe even myself. Of course,
your own prejudices and hang-ups can't countenance that - not the
answer which squares with the rhetorical bullshit.
>
>
> Maybe even me or the dropzone or somebody
>> else. How is this, where the money comes from, in any way change the
>> reality of 12 jumps occurring, which was what you got when you were
>> looking for me to whine about something? You got a problem? What,
>> you only made 6 jumps? Three? Less?
>>
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk
>
>Zero you know I'm retired due to a disability from a CVA stroke---
No, it was due to something else entirely, and you know it.
>I
>just sat on the porch listening to Classical music on XM radio while
>drinking Shiner Bock & shooting squirrels in the haunch with a BB
>pistol.
XM radio, eh? Well, hell - "A Country Boy Can Survive!" -as long as
he's got all the latest citified bells and whistles. That a bidet on
your porch you been sitting on?
>Waiting for you to get home and try to catch up with what I
>think and reply in a flurry. Yup posting a opinion on wreck skydiving
>is kind of like popping bird seed stealing squirrels in the ass from a
>rocking chair out on the front porch heh heh! HEY JERRY, THEY GIT MAD
>ALSO
>~life is good~
Seems to me you just enjoy the prospect of making something mad - it's
an affirmation kinda thing - "I inflicted some pain and made something
mad ~life is good~." All comes down to needing to feel like you have
some sort of meaning. Pretty sad when that feeling of meaning is only
induced by the hope that you have induced some pain because you hope
pain makes things mad - none too zen, Buda Kup. That said, sorry
Jinnie - it's amusement, pure and simple. If you really shot me with
a BB pistol (as if), that would likely piss me off like you hope you
did that squirrel - maybe you should ask the squirrel how it felt
about it to be sure - probably pain and the squirrel equivalent of
surprise would pretty much cover the gamut of squirrel emotion, I'm
thinking, but as for me - all you been firing my way have been big,
fat, lazy nerf-balls which, no matter how powered they are out of your
plastic BB pistol of a mind with the compressed hot air of your
dingleberry conviction, said nerf-ball deacellerates to near nothing
once it leaves that short and remarkably inaccurate barrel, traversing
highly frictional reality between you and whatever you're trying to
target. Your aim's none too good, either, as recently evidenced by
your earlier bit of bitching regarding WHEN to consider gear, when the
question was about WHAT.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On 9 Oct 2006 11:59:46 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Jerry K. wrote:
> >> On 7 Oct 2006 17:52:46 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> >> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
> >> Actually, I still have my first rig, with first main and first
> >> reserve.
> >
> >GEEZUS ARE YOU CHEAP
> >bet you don't get much Poontang, OH I FORGOT---you swing the other way
> >0~;->
>
> You just wish I did, sweetie pie. Not me with a sordid history of
> bunking with sailors, let alone a night of sucking wine coolers with
> your Navy instructor on his bunk.
I don't think wine coolers had been invented back then but the CPO
barracks had
a beer machine in the passage way and any Chief worth his salt had a
pint of Beam
or quart of Chivas in his footlocker.
>
> Oh yeah, not so cheap to sell off my gear trying to get my money back,
> eh? Yeah, I still got my first rig, still got my 2nd one, too. Sold
> off my Batwing after I had put roughly three times the number of jumps
> on it you ever made ever but I still got that Saber I bought in 1995-
> great canopy. You still got your Falcon? Or you sell it to some
> drozpone needing student mains for their AFF program.
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
dunno ummm lets see I sold the Fury reserve to some Airborne kid
getting out of the Army, CHEAP and Bill Lee sold off all my other gear
or put it in his inventory and sent me a check. Kept old Arts Full Face
Camera Helmet for old times sake....
It got skint up pretty bad when my tibula broke and I slid down the
runway anyway. ohm ohm ohm God wanted me to live a few more years to
haunt wreck.teaching urban girlyboys backwoods humor&philosophy I do
believe! YAAHAHAHAHAHA
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
No, "fancy and important" are assignations you are making, not me.
They're just words and nothing more. Doublespeak is something else
entirely. Aside from also being somewhat "fancy and important"
sounding itself, it's essentially saying shit which hides or even
kinda misrepresents something - now, who in this conversation has
~often~ been busted for that sort of thing? I wonder. Wanna tell us
again about your bronze medal, Jinnie? Maybe do a little hiding of
its Pops affilliation while misrepresenting it as a National Medal won
at a National meet? I can cite the examples again and it wasn't this
dumbass who was bragging about his National Medal to people who read
the RV newsgroup. Or maybe I'm misrepresenting, here. You wanna set
me straight on what was up with that? You know, read to me what's
between those lines you've often asserted others can't read between?
Or is the reading between the lines angle tantamount to doublespeak?
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
I always wonder what happened to Art's gear, including the full-face
camera helmet. Too bad it's not being jumped anymore. What's really
got me laughing now is the fact that you own a camera helmet. It
get's better. You see, I've JUMPED that camera helmet, yes sirree.
So, next time you see good old Art's helmet, just remember my head's
been in it, boarding the plane, on the skydive, under canopy, and back
on down to the ground. Too bad you tore it up on the runway, though.
You should fix it up and give it to some needy skydiver or even donate
it to the museum as a piece of history. A lotta people in skydiving
knew, respected, and loved Art. I think seeing his helmet might make
'em smile in his memory. Of course, I think Art would just be happy
that someone was making a jump with his gear - at least I hope so.
Shit too funny!!!
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Damn sure have them at a disadvantage....hope their getting worth while
first jump pictures.
The system is self feeding to the point its going to kill itself
someday cuz unless they make their one jump and walk away with their
stills and video---their going to get sold a Lotta shit that used to be
free or one didn't need---Won't need video's again till they have
enough jumps to recognize their body mistakes on film. Any good JM or
coach can watch them in the air and tell them what they need to correct
but you are probably still going to be trying to shove video down their
throat on slow days eh?
> >> >> >BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA LUV IT.........whine for me urban
> >> >> >crybaby. ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)
> >> >>
> >> >> I only made 12 jumps this weekend. That what you're looking for?
> >> >>
> >> >> ...bsrp
> >> >> ...jlk
> >> >
> >> >Who payed for them is what I'm looking for you little mooch
> >>
> >> Rest assured somebody did.
> >
> >there it is, you're a admitted whore.
>
> If it makes you feel better about yourself and your circumstances,
> Jinnie - you keep on repeating that, over and over. Besides, whores
> don't force people to give 'em money like I do. I'm more of an armed
> robber if you must assign names for anything other than what it
> actually is in reality. All you got to work with here is me asserting
> I skydived and somebody paid for it - maybe even myself. Of course,
> your own prejudices and hang-ups can't countenance that - not the
> answer which squares with the rhetorical bullshit.
No whores don't force Johns to pay---the system works similar to the DZ
if you think about it though----PAY UP FRONT or else some pimp collects
for her later SHIT we better quit discussing it. the vice squad might
show up out there and arrest yer ass for being a whore.
um mm lets see that would make the DZO a madam so WHOS YOUR PIMP?
>
> >
> >
> > Maybe even me or the dropzone or somebody
> >> else. How is this, where the money comes from, in any way change the
> >> reality of 12 jumps occurring, which was what you got when you were
> >> looking for me to whine about something? You got a problem? What,
> >> you only made 6 jumps? Three? Less?
> >>
> >> ...bsrp
> >> ...jlk
> >
> >Zero you know I'm retired due to a disability from a CVA stroke---
>
> No, it was due to something else entirely, and you know it.
Nope it was a brain aneurysm at 3 AM in the morning, got up to pee and
wham fell out on the bathroom floor
> >just sat on the porch listening to Classical music on XM radio while
> >drinking Shiner Bock & shooting squirrels in the haunch with a BB
> >pistol.
>
> XM radio, eh? Well, hell - "A Country Boy Can Survive!" -as long as
> he's got all the latest citified bells and whistles. That a bidet on
> your porch you been sitting on?
HELL YEAH, you can't take the money with you and I'm to far out to get
Houston Stations
TV or otherwise----besides Houston doesn't have any good classical
stations...I drink expensive Italian and/or French Brandy also
>
> >Waiting for you to get home and try to catch up with what I
> >think and reply in a flurry. Yup posting a opinion on wreck skydiving
> >is kind of like popping bird seed stealing squirrels in the ass from a
> >rocking chair out on the front porch heh heh! HEY JERRY, THEY GIT MAD
> >ALSO
> >~life is good~
>
>
> Seems to me you just enjoy the prospect of making something mad -
too right, its an art form out here in the woods, we sit around trying
to piss each other off,
its a guy thing kid, you might not understand being a city sissy and
all like you are
>it's an affirmation kinda thing - "I inflicted some pain and made
something
> mad ~life is good~."
Nope I just like to rattle pomp ass ass expectations
>All comes down to needing to feel like you have
> some sort of meaning. Pretty sad when that feeling of meaning is only
> induced by the hope that you have induced some pain because you hope
> pain makes things mad - none too zen, Buda Kup.
Ohhhhh yeah way zen---the art is in not letting it get to you, so I'm
teaching zen the hard way or to a bad student you could say <smirk>
the unknown flailer
thats what you get for being compulsive & reading every damn one Mike!
;->
the unknown flailer
Whoaaaaaa, you need to chill cityboy----he said he was thinking about
jumping, the kids not even in FJC.......But at least we took the board
away from the cross posing political hacks and are actually talking
about skydiving.....sure its our usual knock down, drag out but the
subject is skydiving gear----shit all of your inmature yowling even
woke old Lodi Mike up...which amuses me to no end-----> you ain't seen
grumpy old man yet. Wait till he gets on your ass ;)
the unknown flailer
didn't have a camera on it so don't get a boner yet....he had more than
one, this was one of his early modifications---He took his working
helment back to California with him I'm thinking
No telling where it or the camera's are at now that he's dead...I was
hoping Rabbit had somehow got them, they were partners for a while at
Lake Anuach you know. ;( tear
the unknown flailer
I had the J-8, Sharpshooter, fury and one helment....he sold them
trying to get up money
to go home to Calif when Carlton closed down..took his current working
gear with him to jump & work out there I guess. Rabbit was a long time
friend and partner with Art. till
the DZ closed-----was hoping he got the rest of the gear, doubt it
unless he was in California at the time. You could check with him and
see what he has....Rabbits down at SPX Santa Fe or was last time I
checked their staff roster----shit you know how some skydivers
are----their like fruit pickers following the crop, he cudda went out
to Calif or down to Florida his self by now just be informed your head
and mine.........................................................
((((((((( HAVE NEVER BEEN IN THE SAME HELMENT))))) young peckerwood
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
Initially it was WHAT skydiving gear until you got into a tizzy about
WHEN.
>shit all of your inmature yowling even
>woke old Lodi Mike up...which amuses me to no end-----> you ain't seen
>grumpy old man yet. Wait till he gets on your ass ;)
Yet to see a demonstration of that. I mean, anything beyond you doing
the electronic leg hunch.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> ...jlk
Yuh I don't talk to RV'er's or use their board, must have been a cross
post when we were
dissingeach others medals & awards years ago. Some of the rich old
bastards are even more anal than you kid.
I lived among them after the Beaumont incident---at least till I could
walk on my cast--then I took off for the deep woods. Most of them are
citified Yankee's and political as hell. Got their little useless
dogs---so being the diplomat I am I sez "If a damn dog don't hunt or
work livestock you should kill & eat the yap arsed things, here I'll do
it for you!." Whoa WRONG. Their substitute children to city people. ;)
Talk about being on some civilized peoples shit list Zowee! And all
their men are whipped. "Yes dear, no dear, you are 100 percent right
dear!" Geez might as well cut yer balls off and be in jail at the same
time. "I don't want to see you with the man, he cuss's, hunts, drinks
and even eats family pets." Bullshit the coyotes was getting them damn
miniature dogs. Like the skydiving culture--quite a few are nice. Their
just afraid of the political block association types....You know the
busybody's that want to run things at any cost---used to getting their
way or else...Nope Nope no RV post's. I'm a free spirit---No group of
city Pansy's are going to run my life. Building consensus or talking
bad about me don't work-----I revel in being a old rascal. Could care
less what a group of city sheep think about me---Calling it like I see
it is more important. BTW A POP's Nationals scramble is harder than
that team shit yawl pratice at all the time. You jump with people you
may only see at the Nationals, quite a few from small cessna dz's.
After the draw you have one night to creep the dives cuz next day is
crunch time. The video geeks are pool, likly never jumped with them
either----their generally good though. That any points at all are put
together is amazing. Thus I will always rate someones POPS National
Medal above USPA National RW medals. Seems to me, with all that
pratice together you should be able to walk away with more....probably
has a lot to do with being young hussy's needing sugar daddys to pay
your way. Us we just bought our jump tickets went out and had fun.
Shucks the Canadians were there competing, I artta call mine a
International medal! BWAAAAAHAHAHAHA 0~;)P
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
You'd have to ask them, ya think? Where would you go to do that?
>The system is self feeding to the point its going to kill itself
>someday
Nevermind you've been mining that bit of rhetorical bullshit for years
while the sport continues to grow and branch out in increasing
variety.
>cuz unless they make their one jump and walk away with their
>stills and video---their going to get sold a Lotta shit that used to be
>free or one didn't need---
No one gets sold a thing unless they're willing to buy and the
motivations behind that will are beyond yours or anyone's control,
other than the people making the decision to have something sold to
them. Free or don't need - feel free to throw some examples out
there, why doncha? I'll be sure to shoot 'em down.
>Won't need video's again till they have
>enough jumps to recognize their body mistakes on film.
Unles they feel they need it, nevermind the reason. Could be they
just wanna relive the skydive...or show it to friends...or maybe a
keepsake. Whatever the reason, not for you or anyone else to
determine for them whether they need or don't need something so benign
as a video.
>Any good JM or
>coach can watch them in the air and tell them what they need to correct
Yeah, but this is not to say video can't be a usefull tool in that
regard. For that matter, I wanna see this "good" coach or JM that
goes over to people's houses and describes the skydive to the jumper's
friends and families (while humming a catchy tune, no less) at their
leisure and not only that, be around for when the jumper, anytime he
wants to, decides to have the skydive described to him again, over and
over, moment to moment. I wanna see this coach who goes up and
watches the dive, from solo to bigway, and remembers exactly what
occurred, when, where, even describing in exact detail, without
forgetting ever what he observed.
>but you are probably still going to be trying to shove video down their
>throat on slow days eh?
Probably? Well maybe or maybe not but you'll just have to get to a dz
to know for sure. But then, the fantasy is sure to be more comforting
than the reality, eh? May as well save the gas.
>
>
>> >> >> >BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA LUV IT.........whine for me urban
>> >> >> >crybaby. ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I only made 12 jumps this weekend. That what you're looking for?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ...bsrp
>> >> >> ...jlk
>> >> >
>> >> >Who payed for them is what I'm looking for you little mooch
>> >>
>> >> Rest assured somebody did.
>> >
>> >there it is, you're a admitted whore.
>>
>> If it makes you feel better about yourself and your circumstances,
>> Jinnie - you keep on repeating that, over and over. Besides, whores
>> don't force people to give 'em money like I do. I'm more of an armed
>> robber if you must assign names for anything other than what it
>> actually is in reality. All you got to work with here is me asserting
>> I skydived and somebody paid for it - maybe even myself. Of course,
>> your own prejudices and hang-ups can't countenance that - not the
>> answer which squares with the rhetorical bullshit.
>
>No whores don't force Johns to pay---
Well, I dunno about that, what with all that shoving videos down
throats you've been imagining. If skydivers aren't forcing people to
have video, well - must be some other motivational factor going on
which provides the reality of some skydives being graced with video.
>the system works similar to the DZ
>if you think about it though----PAY UP FRONT or else some pimp collects
>for her later SHIT
Funny thing about that, when I get compensated for delivering
requested video it's either at the end of the day or at the end of the
weekend. Do you think that word might get around that someone was
tacking on extra charges? Think that geek would get many people
requesting video in the future? Would this not scuttle any and all
plans for the Destruction of Skydiving and Ruining of the Sport (tm.)?
>we better quit discussing it. the vice squad might
>show up out there and arrest yer ass for being a whore.
Yeah, and monkeys might fly outta your ass, too.
>um mm lets see that would make the DZO a madam so WHOS YOUR PIMP?
Let's see, I guess if the pimp is the entity that "protects" the
worker while taking most of the cut, as well as arranging for the
goods & services for compensation transactions to occur, then it's
probably just reputation, except to say reputation can't "protect" the
worker if the worker doesn't deliver, nor does it exact any proportion
of the compensation. Which union outfit was your pimp? Did your
clients call you madam?
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Maybe even me or the dropzone or somebody
>> >> else. How is this, where the money comes from, in any way change the
>> >> reality of 12 jumps occurring, which was what you got when you were
>> >> looking for me to whine about something? You got a problem? What,
>> >> you only made 6 jumps? Three? Less?
>> >>
>> >> ...bsrp
>> >> ...jlk
>> >
>> >Zero you know I'm retired due to a disability from a CVA stroke---
>>
>> No, it was due to something else entirely, and you know it.
>
>Nope it was a brain aneurysm at 3 AM in the morning, got up to pee and
>wham fell out on the bathroom floor
Is this doublespeak going on here? I think it is. You neglected to
mention the occurance of you briefly coming out of retirement with the
intention of getting back to your 120 or so jumps/year (not that your
limited years in the sport averaged anywhere close to that, but that's
by the by) and due to a variety of circumstances, most having to do
with your refusal to think things through, it was immediately after
the unretirement that you retired, and for good.
>
>> >just sat on the porch listening to Classical music on XM radio while
>> >drinking Shiner Bock & shooting squirrels in the haunch with a BB
>> >pistol.
>>
>> XM radio, eh? Well, hell - "A Country Boy Can Survive!" -as long as
>> he's got all the latest citified bells and whistles. That a bidet on
>> your porch you been sitting on?
>
>HELL YEAH, you can't take the money with you and I'm to far out to get
>Houston Stations
>TV or otherwise----
Heheheh - "A Country Boy Can Survive!" as long as he has money to
spend on XM radio or can pick up the radio stations from the city.
>besides Houston doesn't have any good classical
>stations...I drink expensive Italian and/or French Brandy also
Actually, they have several. What to you constitutes, "good." Any
favorites here? Name some composers or pieces of work which XM plays
which aren't played elsewhere. As for the brandy, didn't you once say
Poke county is dry? Nevermind that it isn't.
>>
>> >Waiting for you to get home and try to catch up with what I
>> >think and reply in a flurry. Yup posting a opinion on wreck skydiving
>> >is kind of like popping bird seed stealing squirrels in the ass from a
>> >rocking chair out on the front porch heh heh! HEY JERRY, THEY GIT MAD
>> >ALSO
>> >~life is good~
>>
>>
>> Seems to me you just enjoy the prospect of making something mad -
>
>too right, its an art form out here in the woods, we sit around trying
>to piss each other off,
Hell, nothing that catching a little zen couldn't fix. Didn't you say
you weren't in the woods anymore but in a house by the lake? Yep, you
did.
>its a guy thing kid, you might not understand being a city sissy and
>all like you are
But not really too much of a zen thing, Buda Kup.
>
>
> >it's an affirmation kinda thing - "I inflicted some pain and made
>something
>> mad ~life is good~."
>
> Nope I just like to rattle pomp ass ass expectations
Try harder. So far it's just been the regular and predictable
exposition of what one comes to expect of a dingleberry.
>
>
>>All comes down to needing to feel like you have
>> some sort of meaning. Pretty sad when that feeling of meaning is only
>> induced by the hope that you have induced some pain because you hope
>> pain makes things mad - none too zen, Buda Kup.
>
>
>Ohhhhh yeah way zen---the art is in not letting it get to you, so I'm
>teaching zen the hard way or to a bad student you could say <smirk>
So, let's recap - you go around popping off BB's at squirrels, which
you say you enjoy because it makes them mad, and along with this
strange method of exacting enjoyment, you're also saying there's an
art in not letting shooting BB's at squirrels get to you? Or, are you
saying that you shoot BB's at squirrels so to teach them some zen. I
mean, I haven't learned a bit of your brand of patently bullshit zen
as demonstrated by the nerf-balls you shoot out of that BB-like mind
of yours, except to say there is indeed zen to be had in watching
nerf-balls drift on in, knowing their screwy parabola in it's flight
into and through reality has more to do with nerf-ball's relative lack
of substance than with reality's friction.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
Oh, I remember the full-face well and he only had one. Heheheh -
don't you see the humor in you having jumped a camera helmet I jumped
before you? Read between the lines here. Squint if you have to.
Shit too funny!
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
Oh, but it has - IT HAS. Art only had one fullface camera helmet and
it was that camera helmet and not only have you worn a helmet I've
jumped, I jumped it before you ever wore it. Hell, I stood up the
landing while wearing it, for that matter - how'd it work out with you
again? Not sure why this is pissing you off - I think it's funny as
shit! And just so you can read some emotional undercurrent to the
above, here's one of those little gay chatroom heiroglyphics you like
so much. 0~;->
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On 9 Oct 2006 19:36:21 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >lugnutes wrote:
> >> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 04:59:06 -0500, Jerr.K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > What, you're essentially screaming, "Teacher!" until some wing of the
> >> > government steps in and (all fantasies aside) levels some sort of
> >> > sanction or punishment at some sector or individuals who offend your
> >> > politically correct (using the term loosly) sensibilities?
> >>
> >> Huh? Can anyone tell me what Jer.K. just said?
> >
> >I believe that was called doublespeak back during the Reagan era...Its
> >what happens
> >when you try to talk all fancy & important when you're really nothing
> >but another dumb-ass.
>
> No, "fancy and important" are assignations you are making, not me.
> They're just words and nothing more. Doublespeak is something else
> entirely. Aside from also being somewhat "fancy and important"
> sounding itself,
> ...jlk
Whats the matter kid, can't stand a little constructive criticism? Some
lurker bought it up.....
I just ran with it. heh heh that will teach their lurking butts eh?
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On 9 Oct 2006 21:54:07 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
just be informed your head
> >and mine.........................................................
> >
> >((((((((( HAVE NEVER BEEN IN THE SAME HELMENT))))) young pecker wood
>
> Oh, but it has - IT HAS.
> ...jlk
NOT NOT NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT, you are dreaming asshole, it was
not the same helmet----Art had collected a lot of equipment and
modified it over the years...we got nothing in common other than liking
to argue and I once was a skydiver in the same general area of the GU
You started 5 or 6 years behind me at a different DZ....NONE OF YOUR
KOOTIES GOT ON ME YOU PRISSY THING....God forbid any sky god cooties
got on me at all, never know....plenty of deguello was around my home
dz's back then mumble mumble mumble DAMN sky god cooties perish the
thought!
Thats it I'm going to get in the hot tub....catch you later tweety
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
>Jerry K. wrote:
>> On 9 Oct 2006 21:54:07 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
>> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>just be informed your head
>> >and mine.........................................................
>> >
>> >((((((((( HAVE NEVER BEEN IN THE SAME HELMENT))))) young pecker wood
>>
>> Oh, but it has - IT HAS.
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk
>
>NOT NOT NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT, you are dreaming asshole, it was
>not the same helmet----Art had collected a lot of equipment and
>modified it over the years...
Yep - same helmet. Fullface camera helmet - he only had one. Was
already using the protec set up when I first started jumping but he
still had it and I remember it well. And I jumped it. Not only that,
I jumped it before you did and guesses for grabs whether the lining
had been replaced between that time and when you wore it so it's
entirely possibly that some of me was still lurking in there the last
time you put it on. Hell, since Art didn't use it it's entirely
possible that the last person to jump it before you, could very well
have been me - but we'll never know for sure.
>we got nothing in common other than liking
>to argue and I once was a skydiver in the same general area of the GU
>You started 5 or 6 years behind me at a different DZ....
You're certainly not from Texas, that's a definite non-commonality.
>NONE OF YOUR
>KOOTIES GOT ON ME YOU PRISSY THING....
Hell, who here's getting prissy about cooties? Heheheheh - you
worried about some little benign cooties? I'm thinking there might
have left maybe a strand of my hair or two, perhaps a little dandruff
and possibly some dried up sweat that coulda still been lurking inside
Art's helmet with you.
>God forbid any sky god cooties
>got on me at all,
Shit, with the way you go on about yourself, any skygod cooties mashed
against your head when you wore Art's helmet woulda been quickly
overwhelmed by all of your own. No worries though - it probably
didn't specifically get on you, anyway - more likely just absorbed.
>never know....plenty of deguello was around my home
>dz's back then mumble mumble mumble DAMN sky god cooties perish the
>thought!
Ya know where you sat in the plane before your last jump? It's a sure
bet I sat there as well, many times, sometime between 1996 and 1999.
>Thats it I'm going to get in the hot tub....catch you later tweety
Hot tub? Well, then - I guess "A Country Boy Can Survive," as long as
he has a hot tub. That how it goes?
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
Or, maybe you were talking to (or at) the RV'ers on their board,
nevermind just having to gas about your "National Medal" to the
RV'ers. Think it's possible? Quick run of the history in google might
say different. Whadya think?
>Some of the rich old
>bastards
<bandcamp drama snipped>
>Like the skydiving culture--quite a few are nice. Their
>just afraid of the political block association types....You know the
>busybody's that want to run things at any cost---used to getting their
>way or else...
Haven't you often said you'd like to have your own dropzone so you
could run it your way?
>Nope Nope no RV post's.
Carefull, Jinnie - I think there might be some posts you made, and not
crossposted, over on one of the RV newsgroups. Of course, I could be
wrong - what do you think the reality is about those "no RV posts,"
eh?
>I'm a free spirit---No group of
>city Pansy's are going to run my life. Building consensus or talking
>bad about me don't work-----
Shit, I guess even paranoid people might have enemies but I think
you're just worrying about nothing.
>I revel in being a old rascal. Could care
>less what a group of city sheep think about me---Calling it like I see
>it is more important.
Which is a fine sentiment, indeed but there's not much to be said for
calling things as you see it about subjects you are remote from
because that descends into the realm of calling it as you don't see it
or calling it as you guess it because, as remote as you are, you don't
see it and can only guess.
>BTW A POP's Nationals scramble is harder than
>that team shit yawl pratice at all the time.
Whoopty shit, Jinnie. You feel a little more affirmed by this
realization of yours or was it meant for someone else to feel less
affirmed, pehaps? Either way, I'm happy for you. One jump in one
meet and you got a Pops bronze out of it - why you feel you gotta gas
about how much "harder" it mighta been. Feeling a little beat upon?
Feel you gotta pump it up and cheerlead it? Catch some zen and let
the fact you have a bronze pops scrambles medal stand on its own.
>You jump with people you
>may only see at the Nationals, quite a few from small cessna dz's.
>After the draw you have one night to creep the dives cuz next day is
>crunch time.
Ya know, all the meets I've been at - strangely enough - the draw is
the night before and you have until before each load the next day to
creep 'em. Sorry, Jinnie - you're one competition jump doesn't make
you special, beyond the singularity of the experience.
>The video geeks are pool, likly never jumped with them
>either----their generally good though.
The difference between pool video and not is if the pool geek screws
up the team gets a rejump whereas there wouldn't be a rejump with a
team geek. The team geek will likely know the count better and
understand the nuances of how his team might launch a certain
formation but beyond that, most geeks who shoot a lot of rw can
recognize what's going on and remain ahead of the curve.
>That any points at all are put
>together is amazing.
>Thus I will always rate someones POPS National
>Medal above USPA National RW medals.
How do you feel about TeXXas 20way medals?
>Seems to me, with all that
>pratice together you should be able to walk away with more....probably
>has a lot to do with being young hussy's needing sugar daddys to pay
>your way.
"More," as in: you're working the medal count pissing contest? That
it? Shit, Jinnie - I've been lucky enough to make more competition
jumps than you ever made ever (not saying there's a lot, mind you) -
and now you're thinking I "should be able to walk away with more?"
How many you think I got in that box under the stairs?
>Us we just bought our jump tickets went out and had fun.
Ummm....you forgot to mention "Bobby V working (you all) like slaves
before the jump.
>Shucks the Canadians were there competing, I artta call mine a
>International medal! BWAAAAAHAHAHAHA 0~;)P
Hell, if that's all it takes, it's a fair guess every meet I've ever
been in had someone from somewhere else in it. So, how many
International medals might be in that box under the stairs?
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
I just took it for what it was - someone didn't understand what I had
written. You explained it as "doublespeak," which, curiously enough,
the defenition I think is more along the lines of obscuring the facts
and misrepresenting which, not surprisingly, is something you often
employ - you have been busted for such things, and often. The whole
"National Medal" thing while forgoing the Pops affiliation, for
convienent example, and not just once or even twice but on numerous
occasions - until you got busted for it, that is. As for what it
teaches anyone else? Who's to say, except to say the Mutually Assured
Killfile is indeed beautiful in its simplicity - it's taught me that.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On 10 Oct 2006 10:20:43 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Jerry K. wrote:
> >> On 9 Oct 2006 21:54:07 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> >> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
> >just be informed your head
> >> >and mine.........................................................
> >> >
> >> >((((((((( HAVE NEVER BEEN IN THE SAME HELMENT))))) young pecker wood
> >>
> >> Oh, but it has - IT HAS.
> >> ...bsrp
> >> ...jlk
> >KOOTIES GOT ON ME YOU PRISSY THING....
>
> Hell, who here's getting prissy about cooties? Heheheheh - you
> worried about some little benign cooties? I'm thinking there might
> have left maybe a strand of my hair or two, perhaps a little dandruff
hell my heads been slick 25 years or bore, no bother there....unless
one got on my beard
> and possibly some dried up sweat that coulda still been lurking inside
> Art's helmet with you.
OH shit....I never thought about STD......nahhhh it wudda kilt me by
now so all that unprotected sex & swinging both ways you USTA sky gods
do didn't get on me
>
> >God forbid any sky god cooties
> >got on me at all,
>
> Shit, with the way you go on about yourself, any skygod cooties mashed
> against your head when you wore Art's helmet woulda been quickly
> overwhelmed by all of your own. No worries though - it probably
> didn't specifically get on you, anyway - more likely just absorbed.
uh I must have a good constitution...the Neurosurgeon said one that
massive kills
90 some odd percent of the people and the rest rarely can get on their
feet again
>
> >never know....plenty of deguello was around my home
> >dz's back then mumble mumble mumble DAMN sky god cooties perish the
> >thought!
>
> Ya know where you sat in the plane before your last jump? It's a sure
> bet I sat there as well, many times, sometime between 1996 and 1999.
>
>
> >That's it I'm going to get in the hot tub....catch you later tweedy
>
> Hot tub? Well, then - I guess "A Country Boy Can Survive," as long as
> he has a hot tub. That how it goes?
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
After surviving several near death & one clinically dead experience I
believe in enjoying what you have left of life....no reason country
people can't enjoy the finer things other than the same reason city
people don't--------->M o n e y...I keep the old camper out at the deer
camp in the big thicket to get in touch with my roots when the mood
strikes me, which happens less and less as I grow older----don't fool
with livestock, ride horses or mules anymore either...I just kinda rest
and teach youngsters antiqued humor or bedevil histrionic city slickers
to pass the time ~ahhh life is good~
lugnutes
> Who's to say, except to say the Mutually Assured
> Killfile is indeed beautiful in its simplicity - it's taught me that.
Too bad you don't know how to use what you've been "taught" -- you
still respond to every single post that Jimmy makes, like a little yap
dog that humps his leg at every chance, as DJMike used to say about
you.
Jerry K.
wrote:
No, that's not true. Not every single one - go and look. True, the
majority, but who's counting? For that matter, you might go look at
the top of the thread and see who actually began the fuckwith. It
(the thread) started with a fair question followed by a fair answer
followed by a fair fuckwith, and so on. You got a problem with it
then stop reading this crap. The threads are killfileable as are the
people who populate the threads. Yap dog, pedantic lawyer, fish on a
hook - call it what you will. I see it as performance art at its most
absurd and to a lesser extent an exercise in debate (recognizing here
that this "debate" here is tantamount to fishing with dynamite) but in
saying that, it's clear that people if they feel like they must typify
the exchanges, are gonna typify it the way they want to and more power
to 'em. Do you honestly think anyone, let alone myself, should give a
shit about what someone might say, said, or even used to say about me
~on an electronic newsgroup~? It's happened before that if you had
taken the time to harangue (or even help) the dingleberry what you
would get is vitriol, a metaphoric spit in the eye, and anything but
an honest response - it happened to Mike, plain as day. The fact that
I don't doesn't make me a better person or even worse - it's just a
matter of perspective. You don't dig it, then get if off your
computer - it's an easy thing to do and if you do, then sit back and
wonder at the absurdity of it all - or not, do what you want and if
that ain't working then consider as a concept and as a matter of
literality, Shut Up and Jump.
...bsrp
...jlk
Mike Spurgeon
> You got a problem with it
> then stop reading this crap.
Probably a smammer's most worthless response. Who says we read it?
Some people still pay for everything that shows up on the server.
Actually, to a great extent, we all do.
So far, not counting the first two, Snuffy 21, Jerry 18.
How many posts would he make if you didn't reply to the great majority?
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:38:36 -0700, lugnutes <dfe...@privy.mulch>
> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 03:47:57 -0500, Jer.K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Who's to say, except to say the Mutually Assured
> >> Killfile is indeed beautiful in its simplicity - it's taught me that.
> >
> >Too bad you don't know how to use what you've been "taught" -- you
> >still respond to every single post that Jimmy makes, like a little yap
> >dog that humps his leg at every chance, as DJMike used to say about
> >you.
>
> No, that's not true. Not every single one - go and look. True, the
> majority, but who's counting? For that matter, you might go look at
> the top of the thread and see who actually began the fuckwith.
A wuffo named Al, stick it to him if he shows up on the DZ JerrDink ;)
>You got a problem with it
> then stop reading this crap. The threads are killfileable as are the
> people who populate the threads.
There you go kid, don't take no shit off them and DON'T BACK UP...I'm
standing behind you
WAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
>Yap dog, pedantic lawyer, fish on a
> hook - call it what you will. I see it as performance art at its most
> absurd and to a lesser extent an exercise in debate (recognizing here
> that this "debate" here is tantamount to fishing with dynamite)
there it is, perhaps they prefer the gay republican cross posts being
dumped on to wreck.
Well not Lodi Mike, he's a dyed in the wool Bush man and I'm suspecting
a lifetime Republican. Its nice to see him posting again...At least you
and I keep it on some sort of skydiving subject no matter how inane.
Their just jealous because our local discussions go over their
heads....They don't know the people, DZ's or past history of skydiving
in this part of the GU....I for one, would probably be just as bored
with local Queerafornia or somewhere back east's color & gossip. Damn
kill files......Ain't been able to use one since leaving AOL. Never
much cared to use one either. Having a kill file is like not putting
your LP out at night in a combat zone...Don't worry about it Jerry, you
are doing OK------At least you can take a beating and stay in there
swinging.....I admire that and many's a time you've had me on the deck
rolling around laughing
but in
> saying that, it's clear that people if they feel like they must typify
> the exchanges, are gonna typify it the way they want to and more power
> to 'em. Do you honestly think anyone, let alone myself, should give a
> shit about what someone might say, said, or even used to say about me
> ~on an electronic newsgroup~?
That's right, do they even jump with you.....ever even been on a load
with you? NO They just have opinions, like us.
We state our opinions on the sports culture.....both good and bad then
insult the shit out of each other for having a opinion
They on the other hand have no valid input into the discussion other
than bitching about our having opinions. You are doing all right kid
and be aware, we never wore the same helmet----you dreamed that <smirk>
>It's happened before that if you had
> taken the time to harangue (or even help) the dingleberry.
Damn, I hope you are calling lug nuts dingle berry and not Mike, Mike
deserves some respect....If for nothing else, longevity in the sport
and the time spent training up skydivers....his political opinions you
can toss in the toilet though ;)
>what you
> would get is a metaphoric spit in the eye, and anything but
> an honest response - it happened to Mike, plain as day.
Somebody spit on the Lodi Kid? See this will happen as you age and tend
to move slower....perhaps they mistook him for a
whit headed tree leprechaun, yard ornament or something like
that....According to Bimbo, he's kinda small
>The fact that
> I don't doesn't make me a better person or even worse -
I think you are getting better Jerr, toughing up slightly....damn if I
cudda got you at 17, you would be one hell of a trouble maker by now
>it's just a matter of perspective. You don't dig it, then get if off your
> computer -
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
or consider it the movie version of dumb and dumber as presented on
wreck skydiving by two great artists. ;->
the unknown flailer
Don't blame it on the kid, I intentionally bait him. loosen up ~it
don't mean nothing~
besides what would you be doing if you weren't trying to quell a wreck
disturbance?
You should thank us for giving you something to critique then criticize
Jerry K.
wrote:
>Jerry K. wrote:
>
>> You got a problem with it
>> then stop reading this crap.
>
>Probably a smammer's most worthless response.
But the most practical action - puts the person with the problem into
the driver's seat. Whadya want? "Oh, please excuse my faux paux?"
>Who says we read it?
Hell, who says you (3rd person you) got a problem with it? Call it a
tenuous connection of dots but if there's a response to a post and
perhaps to the ideas or even words within the post, it appears to me
it's been read. Now, admittedly someone else coulda read it and
related it on to someone else but who says it isn't read - I mean, by
those who haven't bothered with kill filing the author or the thread?
Sure, I'Il admit it was a dumb assumption on my part.
>Some people still pay for everything that shows up on the server.
Then if money is the issue then it would seem a no brainer stay in
that driver's seat and killfile those most likely to be jacking up the
costs.
>
>Actually, to a great extent, we all do.
Tell ya what, one time offer and take it to the bank, - dingleberries
are inelligible - Anyone who reads this shit and feels like they're
being ripped off, if you catch up with me at a dz and tell me you're
paying for everything that shows ups on the server and you want some
compensation, I'll be happy to buy you a beer or a soft drink or a
glass of milk if you prefer - no shit. Come down to Texas or meet me
at Eloy in a week or so - I'll be there for the 4way competition.
.
>
>So far, not counting the first two, Snuffy 21, Jerry 18.
Yeah, but who's counting, eh?
>
>How many posts would he make if you didn't reply to the great majority?
You'd have to ask him - I can only hazard a guess based on past
experience, but I do remember clearly, long before I weighed in, that
the dingleberry posted a lot, and it wasn't just the tit for tat,
maybe a couple two or three long threads here like now, but initiating
numerous threads, lots of trolling, ect. Numerically speaking it's
probably pretty close to what it's ever been, barring times where he
wasn't bothering to post at all - and I don't seem to remember too
much of people trying to call him out of his hole during those various
episodes - certainly not myself, that's for sure. That said, him
invoking me? Happens on an all to regular basis, but I don't have a
problem with it, just some perspective. To answer your question,
likely just as much, if not more. It is what it is, Mike. I was
enjoying the quiet, kinda bemused but ultimately bored with the
crossposters, I give a fair answer to a fair question about what gear
to get and dingleberry just has to leap in, doing the monkey dance.
Hell, who am I to deny him probably one of the few pleasures he might
have left? Besides, he's a better dancer when he's got someone who
can lead to guide him across the floor.
-Jerry
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
>Jerry K. wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:38:36 -0700, lugnutes <dfe...@privy.mulch>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 03:47:57 -0500, Jer.K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Who's to say, except to say the Mutually Assured
>> >> Killfile is indeed beautiful in its simplicity - it's taught me that.
>> >
>> >Too bad you don't know how to use what you've been "taught" -- you
>> >still respond to every single post that Jimmy makes, like a little yap
>> >dog that humps his leg at every chance, as DJMike used to say about
>> >you.
>>
>> No, that's not true. Not every single one - go and look. True, the
>> majority, but who's counting? For that matter, you might go look at
>> the top of the thread and see who actually began the fuckwith.
>
>A wuffo named Al, stick it to him if he shows up on the DZ JerrDink ;)
No, dingleberry - you began the fuckwith. The whuffo just asked a
fair question. Don't get me wrong, I got no problem with your
fuckwith (responding is like fishing with dynamite) - as was
illustrated when I responded to it.
>
> >You got a problem with it
>> then stop reading this crap. The threads are killfileable as are the
>> people who populate the threads.
>
>
>There you go kid, don't take no shit off them and DON'T BACK UP...I'm
>standing behind you
>WAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
There's a scary thought - fortunately it's a metaphoric behind. But
that bit of dandruff and dried sweat still inside Art's fullface?
Heheheh - who woulda thunk it that a part of me was residing in Poke
County all this time.
>
>
>
>>Yap dog, pedantic lawyer, fish on a
>> hook - call it what you will. I see it as performance art at its most
>> absurd and to a lesser extent an exercise in debate (recognizing here
>> that this "debate" here is tantamount to fishing with dynamite)
>
>there it is, perhaps they prefer the gay republican cross posts being
>dumped on to wreck.
>Well not Lodi Mike, he's a dyed in the wool Bush man and I'm suspecting
>a lifetime Republican. Its nice to see him posting again...At least you
>and I keep it on some sort of skydiving subject no matter how inane.
>Their just jealous because our local discussions go over their
>heads....They don't know the people, DZ's or past history of skydiving
>in this part of the GU....I for one, would probably be just as bored
>with local Queerafornia or somewhere back east's color & gossip. Damn
>kill files......Ain't been able to use one since leaving AOL. Never
>much cared to use one either. Having a kill file is like not putting
>your LP out at night in a combat zone...Don't worry about it Jerry, you
>are doing OK------At least you can take a beating and stay in there
>swinging.....I admire that and many's a time you've had me on the deck
>rolling around laughing
I've got to admit, I've been heavily amused when you've suggested that
I've taken some sort of beating. That said, I'd just a soon not do
this than not do anything else.
>
>but in
>> saying that, it's clear that people if they feel like they must typify
>> the exchanges, are gonna typify it the way they want to and more power
>> to 'em. Do you honestly think anyone, let alone myself, should give a
>> shit about what someone might say, said, or even used to say about me
>> ~on an electronic newsgroup~?
>
>That's right, do they even jump with you.....ever even been on a load
>with you? NO They just have opinions, like us.
>We state our opinions on the sports culture.....both good and bad then
>insult the shit out of each other for having a opinion
>They on the other hand have no valid input into the discussion other
>than bitching about our having opinions. You are doing all right kid
>and be aware, we never wore the same helmet----you dreamed that <smirk>
If you got Art's fullface and wore it on your last jump, unless
someone else jumped it after I did but before you did, and I don't
remember him loaning it out to anyone else while I was at Beaumont,
but I wan't there every weekend, just most weekends, then it's really
pretty fucking likely you put on a helmet that had previously been
worn and jumped by me. It's gotta be a tough pill to swallow, sure,
I just think it's funny as shit. I mean, you may as well donate that
helmet to some needy dz because no matter how much you try to ignore
the supposition, there will always be that sliver of doubt - it's
entirely possible. I remember Art pointing to it on that table in the
corner of the video room at Beaumont and saying feel free to jump it
and try it on, like it was yesterday.
>
>
>>It's happened before that if you had
>> taken the time to harangue (or even help) the dingleberry.
>
>Damn, I hope you are calling lug nuts dingle berry and not Mike, Mike
>deserves some respect....If for nothing else, longevity in the sport
>and the time spent training up skydivers....his political opinions you
>can toss in the toilet though ;)
Nope, there is only one dingleberry on this newsgroup and it's clearly
not Mike.
>
>
>>what you
>> would get is a metaphoric spit in the eye, and anything but
>> an honest response - it happened to Mike, plain as day.
>
>Somebody spit on the Lodi Kid?
Remember you gassing about 1800-SKYDIVE. How they were ripping people
off, ect? Remember Mike trying (valiantly) to clue you in that you
must have it confused with 1800-SKYRIDE? For all practical purposes
you told him to eat shit and die - and he was just trying to throw you
some rope. None too zen Buda-Kup.
>See this will happen as you age and tend
>to move slower....perhaps they mistook him for a
>whit headed tree leprechaun, yard ornament or something like
>that....According to Bimbo, he's kinda small
What, you saying ridiculous supposition is symptomatic of aging?
>
>
>>The fact that
>> I don't doesn't make me a better person or even worse -
>
>I think you are getting better Jerr, toughing up slightly....damn if I
>cudda got you at 17, you would be one hell of a trouble maker by now
Shit, with approval like that who needs damning condemnation? Sorry,
Jinnie - you're just gonna have to troll elsehwere for 17 year old
guys - maybe they'll respond a little better to the chatroom
heiroglyphics, those emoticon thingees.
>
>
>>it's just a matter of perspective. You don't dig it, then get if off your
>> computer -
>>
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk
>
>or consider it the movie version of dumb and dumber as presented on
>wreck skydiving by two great artists. ;->
It is, as I've often said, Perofrmance Art at its Most Absurd. I
don't defend it nor do I regale it. It is what it is but this is not
to say that the perpetrators are artists, by a huge stretch,
impressionistic at very best and even that's a stretch.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On 10 Oct 2006 17:42:46 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Jerry K. wrote:
> >> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:38:36 -0700, lugnutes <dfe...@privy.mulch>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 03:47:57 -0500, Jer.K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Who's to say, except to say the Mutually Assured
> >> >> Killfile is indeed beautiful in its simplicity - it's taught me that.
> >> >
> >> >Too bad you don't know how to use what you've been "taught" -- you
> >> >still respond to every single post that Jimmy makes, like a little yap
> >> >dog that humps his leg at every chance, as DJMike used to say about
> >> >you.
> >>
> >> No, that's not true.
Hey don't be hasty------Yap dog, I like that ;)
> >A wuffo named Al, stick it to him if he shows up on the DZ JerrDink ;)
>
> No, dingleberry - you began the fuckwith.
Good
> > >You got a problem with it
> >> then stop reading this crap. The threads are killfileable as are the
> >> people who populate the threads.
> >
> >
> >There you go kid, don't take no shit off them and DON'T BACK UP...I'm
> >standing behind you
> >WAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
>
> There's a scary thought - fortunately it's a metaphoric behind. But
> that bit of dandruff and dried sweat still inside Art's fullface?
> Heheheh - who woulda thunk it that a part of me was residing in Poke
> County all this time.
>
Art must have worn it again before I got it and I'm not sure the
helmets are one in the same
> >>Yap dog, pedantic lawyer, fish on a
> >> hook - call it what you will. I see it as performance art at its most
> >> absurd and to a lesser extent an exercise in debate (recognizing here
> >> that this "debate" here is tantamount to fishing with dynamite)
> >
> >there it is, perhaps they prefer the gay republican cross posts being
> >dumped on to wreck.
> >Well not Lodi Mike, he's a dyed in the wool Bush man and I'm suspecting
> >a lifetime Republican. Its nice to see him posting again...At least you
> >and I keep it on some sort of skydiving subject no matter how inane.
> >Their just jealous because our local discussions go over their
> >heads....They don't know the people, DZ's or past history of skydiving
> >in this part of the GU....I for one, would probably be just as bored
> >with local Queerafornia or somewhere back east's color & gossip. Damn
> >kill files......Ain't been able to use one since leaving AOL. Never
> >much cared to use one either. Having a kill file is like not putting
> >your LP out at night in a combat zone...Don't worry about it Jerry, you
> >are doing OK------At least you can take a beating and stay in there
> >swinging.....I admire that and many's a time you've had me on the deck
> >rolling around laughing
>
> I've got to admit, I've been heavily amused when you've suggested that
> I've taken some sort of beating. That said, I'd just a soon not do
> this than not do anything else.
I imagine so but you need help polishing the delivery during debates
and I'm here for you kid ;}
> >but in saying that, it's clear that people if they feel like they must typify
> >> the exchanges, are gonna typify it the way they want to and more power
> >> to 'em. Do you honestly think anyone, let alone myself, should give a
> >> shit about what someone might say, said, or even used to say about me
> >> ~on an electronic newsgroup~?
Why reply then? Just let me have my way with the sheep. ;->
> >That's right, do they even jump with you.....ever even been on a load
> >with you? NO They just have opinions, like us.
> >We state our opinions on the sports culture.....both good and bad then
> >insult the shit out of each other for having a opinion
> >They on the other hand have no valid input into the discussion other
> >than bitching about our having opinions. You are doing all right kid
> >and be aware, we never wore the same helmet----you dreamed that <smirk>
>
> If you got Art's fullface and wore it on your last jump, unless
> someone else jumped it after I did but before you did, and I don't
> remember him loaning it out to anyone else while I was at Beaumont,
> but I wan't there every weekend, just most weekends, then it's really
> pretty fucking likely you put on a helmet that had previously been
> worn and jumped by me. It's gotta be a tough pill to swallow, sure,
> I just think it's funny as shit. I mean, you may as well donate that
> helmet to some needy dz because no matter how much you try to ignore
> the supposition, there will always be that sliver of doubt - it's
> entirely possible. I remember Art pointing to it on that table in the
> corner of the video room at Beaumont and saying feel free to jump it
> and try it on, like it was yesterday.
Not the same helmet is what I'm saying
> >>It's happened before that if you had
> >> taken the time to harangue (or even help) the dingle berry.
> >
> >Damn, I hope you are calling lug nuts dingle berry and not Mike, Mike
> >deserves some respect....If for nothing else, longevity in the sport
> >and the time spent training up skydivers....his political opinions you
> >can toss in the toilet though ;)
>
> Nope, there is only one dingleberry on this newsgroup and it's clearly
> not Mike.
heh heh
> >>what you would get is a metaphoric spit in the eye, and anything but
> >> an honest response - it happened to Mike, plain as day.
> >
> >Somebody spit on the Lodi Kid?
>
> Remember you gassing about 1800-SKYDIVE. How they were ripping people
> off, ect? Remember Mike trying (valiantly) to clue you in that you
> must have it confused with 1800-SKYRIDE? For all practical purposes
> you told him to eat shit and die - and he was just trying to throw you
> some rope. None too zen Buda-Kup.
Don't recall Mike being involved in that rant, I do recall some Intel
on the two numbers though. And it was, they were run by the same
group....More complaints were filed on the skydive one because it was
tied to Tandems, people were not told the locations until their credit
cards were charged----then the place might be 300 miles away. It was a
scam, unfortunately a few DZ's were using the service which worked like
a brokerage. Sky ride?
ummm I'd have to go through my pl-int for that but basically,
overpriced and the same tactics---No reflection on Lodi or Mike but
just because they may have been using the service doesn't mean its
validated----They were just pawns the developers were using.
Scam Artists usually keep the bulk of the money if not all so I doubt
any participating
DZO's except the young suspects that dreamed it up over in Georgia &
Alabama made much out of it---or got many students out of the deal for
that matter. Deals like this are based on the Ponzi scheme. and work in
much the same way so although people sucked in might believe in the
system....only the first tier or originators get anything out of it,
everybody else is left holding the bag...Mike has a Republican soul so
I wouldn't have listened to him on a matter like this anyway
>
>
> >See this will happen as you age and tend
> >to move slower....perhaps they mistook him for a
> >whit headed tree leprechaun, yard ornament or something like
> >that....According to Bimbo, he's kinda small
>
> What, you saying ridiculous supposition is symptomatic of aging?
Its a fact jack, I have personal experience with old and creaky
> >>The fact that
> >> I don't doesn't make me a better person or even worse -
> >
> >I think you are getting better Jerr, toughing up slightly....damn if I
> >cudda got you at 17, you would be one hell of a trouble maker by now
>
> Shit, with approval like that who needs damning condemnation? Sorry,
> Jinnie - you're just gonna have to troll elsehwere for 17 year old
> guys - maybe they'll respond a little better to the chatroom
> heiroglyphics, those emoticon thingees.
Dunno, to hear the cross posters I think certain Republicans in
Congress have dibs on all of them right now HAHAHAHA
> >>it's just a matter of perspective. You don't dig it, then get if off your
> >> computer -
Now that is wisdom but they can't....its like a sickness-----they
are slaves
> >> ...bsrp
> >> ...jlk
> >
> >or consider it the movie version of dumb and dumber as presented on
> >wreck skydiving by two great artists. ;->
>
> It is, as I've often said, Perofrmance Art at its Most Absurd. I
> don't defend it nor do I regale it. It is what it is but this is not
> to say that the perpetrators are artists, by a huge stretch,
> impressionistic at very best and even that's a stretch.
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
OK if that's your opinion but I'm dumb and you're dumber
bsbd sleep tight kid, don't let the bedbugs bite
lugnutes
>>Too bad you don't know how to use what you've been "taught" -- you
>>still respond to every single post that Jimmy makes, like a little yap
>>dog that humps his leg at every chance, as DJMike used to say about
>>you.
>
> No, that's not true. Not every single one - go and look.
That's right -- you respond about 1.13 times for each post he's made
since 2002. When you were spouting off about the use of a killfile,
you obviously weren't talking about either Jimmy or I, since you
repsond to both, as well as DJMike (a.k.a. "MoM"). You're the
"fuckwit" that's causing the trouble in this newsgroup. Jimmy is just
an ex-jumper that's shooting his mouth off, as everyone has a right
to..
> For that matter, you might go look at
> the top of the thread and see who actually began the fuckwith.
That'd be you. You don't know how to use your killfile, so you respond
to every single (* 1.13) post he makes.
> Yap dog, pedantic lawyer, fish on a hook - call it what you will.
You equate yourself to either a lawyer or a fish? If you said "shit"
I'd agree with you. A lawyer residing at the bottom of the cesspool of
humanity is far above you,
> I see it as performance art at its most absurd ...
No one would call your posts "art" by any measure whatsoever. You're
one of the people that drags the sport and this newsgroup down into
the gutter of whoredom. Spurgeon is another one by virtue of the
endless tandems he does at exhorbitant prices, for the sole purpose of
lining his and Dause's (a.k.a. Lodi's) pockets.
I agree with Jimmy that people like all of you are bad for the sport.
Parasites on the sport, you are.
lugnutes
> Then if money is the issue then it would seem a no brainer stay in
> that driver's seat and killfile those most likely to be jacking up the
> costs.
You're the one who brought up the killfile issue -- obviously you
don't have even the vestige of a brain.
> Anyone who reads this shit and feels like they're
> being ripped off, if you catch up with me at a dz ...
Why are you running?
> I'll be happy to buy you a beer or a soft drink or a
> glass of milk if you prefer - no shit. Come down to Texas or meet me
> at Eloy in a week or so - I'll be there for the 4way competition.
Of course you will, since you won't be paying for your jumps, you
whore. You wouldn't be caught dead anywhere where you'd have to pay
... or would you?
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:54:42 GMT, Mike Spurgeon <mi...@spurgeon.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Jerry K. wrote:
> >
> >> You got a problem with it
> >> then stop reading this crap.
> >
> >Probably a smammer's most worthless response.
Any response at all to a Natzi who doesn't know about or believe in
first amendment rights is probably worthless or at the least a wasted
effort
>
> But the most practical action - puts the person with the problem into
> the driver's seat. Whadya want? "Oh, please excuse my faux paux?"
>
> >Who says we read it?
You are forced to read the headers apparently, "penatration no matter
how slight can be considered rape." SO
do you feel violated?
>
> Hell, who says you (3rd person you) got a problem with it? Call it a
> tenuous connection of dots but if there's a response to a post and
> perhaps to the ideas or even words within the post, it appears to me
> it's been read. Now, admittedly someone else coulda read it and
> related it on to someone else but who says it isn't read - I mean, by
> those who haven't bothered with kill filing the author or the thread?
> Sure, I'Il admit it was a dumb assumption on my part.
Don't be fooled Jerry, he's reading them, else why get pissed off?
> >Some people still pay for everything that shows up on the server.
Some people arn't flexible then, they should give up the newsgroups
till they can find another way
> Then if money is the issue then it would seem a no brainer stay in
> that driver's seat and killfile those most likely to be jacking up the
> costs.
Life is tough, then you die-----Just tell him to suck it up and quit
whining!
> >Actually, to a great extent, we all do.
>
> Tell ya what, one time offer and take it to the bank, - dingleberries
> are inelligible - Anyone who reads this shit and feels like they're
> being ripped off, if you catch up with me at a dz and tell me you're
> paying for everything that shows ups on the server and you want some
> compensation, I'll be happy to buy you a beer or a soft drink or a
> glass of milk if you prefer - no shit. Come down to Texas or meet me
> at Eloy in a week or so - I'll be there for the 4way competition.
>
You mean their is more than one dingle berry on here Jerry?
> >So far, not counting the first two, Snuffy 21, Jerry 18.
>
> Yeah, but who's counting, eh?
>
Somebody needs to. I don't want to fall behind.
> >How many posts would he make if you didn't reply to the great majority?
Someone would take his place, that's his biggest fear
> You'd have to ask him -
See above <smirk>
I can only hazard a guess based on past
> experience, but I do remember clearly, long before I weighed in, that
> the dingleberry posted a lot, and it wasn't just the tit for tat,
> maybe a couple two or three long threads here like now, but initiating
> numerous threads, lots of trolling, ect. Numerically speaking it's
> probably pretty close to what it's ever been, barring times where he
> wasn't bothering to post at all - and I don't seem to remember too
> much of people trying to call him out of his hole during those various
> episodes - certainly not myself, that's for sure. That said, him
> invoking me? Happens on an all to regular basis, but I don't have a
> problem with it, just some perspective. To answer your question,
> likely just as much, if not more. It is what it is, Mike. I was
> enjoying the quiet, kinda bemused but ultimately bored with the
> crossposters, I give a fair answer to a fair question about what gear
> to get and dingleberry just has to leap in, doing the monkey dance.
> Hell, who am I to deny him probably one of the few pleasures he might
> have left? Besides, he's a better dancer when he's got someone who
> can lead to guide him across the floor.
>
> -Jerry
Send a pushy chick....I ain't into that USTA girlyboy shit Jerry!
the unknown flailer
"I agree with Jimmy" ????????
wow now thats scary.
the unknown flailer
WHORE WHORE WHORE ;->
the unknown flailer
lugnutes wrote:
> No one would call your posts "art" by any measure whatsoever. You're
> one of the people that drags the sport and this newsgroup down into
> the gutter of whoredom. Spurgeon is another one by virtue of the
> endless tandems he does at exhorbitant prices, for the sole purpose of
> lining his and Dause's (a.k.a. Lodi's) pockets.
>
> I agree with Jimmy that people like all of you are bad for the sport.
> Parasites on the sport, you are.
Wait a minute now, I'm not down on Mike or Lodi...Just true Tandem
Mills. Lodi runs a lot of Tandems through. a hundred to hundred and
twenty a week but a tandem mill to me is one that discourages licenced
skydivers from Jumping. Dause has a lot of lift power and I doubt he
does that.....his page offers S/L & ATP (AFF) as alternatives and their
not GM although their
instructors are USPA licenced. To me that is not a true Tandem Mill,
just a DZ that offers Tandems....I hear he is a bit prickly but hell
who ain't in this sport....You deal with mostly Type A personalities,
while probably being one yourself....That's enough to make anybody
pricky. And Mike? Sure I don't agree with his political views all the
time but that is the American way and true he is a TM/JM. Probably some
kind of JM/I on top of that, don't know how many ratings he
has....irregardless he's been around long enough to teach a lot of
students. The DZ has been around since about 1964....I'm not going to
slur it or its staff. Jerry K is definitely a whore though.....OK I
feel better now, carry on with the fight...no hitting below the belt,
that's my specialty! 0~;->
Jerry K.
wrote:
>On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:45:54 -0500, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>
>> Then if money is the issue then it would seem a no brainer stay in
>> that driver's seat and killfile those most likely to be jacking up the
>> costs.
>
>You're the one who brought up the killfile issue -- obviously you
>don't have even the vestige of a brain.
Since when has bringing up the idea of a killfile as a resolution
towards limiting or eliminating repellant posts (or threads) present
for viewing on an electronic newsgroup indicative of less than a
vestige of a brain? Seems like an obvious solution to me. One person
suggests the posts are costing, people are paying. I say if that's an
issue, eliminate the cost and the pay by eliminating the repellant
posts.
>
>> Anyone who reads this shit and feels like they're
>> being ripped off, if you catch up with me at a dz ...
>
>Why are you running?
Catch up with me as in find me. Sheesh, what I said earlier but
understand the term, "catching up" translates to approach and
communicate.
>
>> I'll be happy to buy you a beer or a soft drink or a
>> glass of milk if you prefer - no shit. Come down to Texas or meet me
>> at Eloy in a week or so - I'll be there for the 4way competition.
>
>Of course you will,
>since you won't be paying for your jumps,
You know this for a fact? But then, what if I weren't? Further, what
if I were? What's it to you?
>you
>whore.
Gee, that hurts. Are you leveling such gnashing towards making a
point or are you just a harpy?
>You wouldn't be caught dead anywhere where you'd have to pay
>... or would you?
What, caught dead? Oh, I'll be caught dead someday, I'm sure but
hopefully (knock wood) it woon't be for a long time. As for paying
for skydives and the idea of not being caught dead doing that, as I
understand it, translating not caught dead to just not doing, you're
wrong. But then, what if you're right? What if I wouldn't be caught
dead paying for jumps? Yu got a problem with the idea or maybe a
point? Just curious. If you do have a problem, I'm curous what
you're gonna do about it and if you got a point, I'm certianly curious
to hear it.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
>Jerry K. wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:54:42 GMT, Mike Spurgeon <mi...@spurgeon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Jerry K. wrote:
>> >
>> >> You got a problem with it
>> >> then stop reading this crap.
>> >
>> >Probably a smammer's most worthless response.
>
>Any response at all to a Natzi who doesn't know about or believe in
>first amendment rights is probably worthless or at the least a wasted
>effort
Naw, I don't think he's a nazi or is looking to strike any
constitutional amendments. Probably just looking to join in on the
"fun," which is entirely fine by me - the more the merrier. You can
tell him to read between the lines and I'll do the same old shit I do,
too.
>>
>> But the most practical action - puts the person with the problem into
>> the driver's seat. Whadya want? "Oh, please excuse my faux paux?"
>>
>> >Who says we read it?
>
>You are forced to read the headers apparently, "penatration no matter
>how slight can be considered rape." SO
>do you feel violated?
I think he's just trying to figure out how two people can be so
obnoxious at each other. Should give it up - I haven't figured it
out, either.
>
>>
>> Hell, who says you (3rd person you) got a problem with it? Call it a
>> tenuous connection of dots but if there's a response to a post and
>> perhaps to the ideas or even words within the post, it appears to me
>> it's been read. Now, admittedly someone else coulda read it and
>> related it on to someone else but who says it isn't read - I mean, by
>> those who haven't bothered with kill filing the author or the thread?
>> Sure, I'Il admit it was a dumb assumption on my part.
>
>Don't be fooled Jerry, he's reading them, else why get pissed off?
I don't think he's pissed. Trolling for some action probably. Shit,
he mighta found it.
>
>> >Some people still pay for everything that shows up on the server.
>
>Some people arn't flexible then, they should give up the newsgroups
>till they can find another way
I've never had to pay extra for any posts, newsgroups, downloads, ect
on the usenet or the web, much less ever heard of some isp charging
extra. Still, I suppose it's possible. Sucks to have that kinda
"service", I guess.
>
>
>> Then if money is the issue then it would seem a no brainer stay in
>> that driver's seat and killfile those most likely to be jacking up the
>> costs.
>
>Life is tough, then you die-----Just tell him to suck it up and quit
>whining!
I think you just did. Think it'll help?
>
>> >Actually, to a great extent, we all do.
>>
>> Tell ya what, one time offer and take it to the bank, - dingleberries
>> are inelligible - Anyone who reads this shit and feels like they're
>> being ripped off, if you catch up with me at a dz and tell me you're
>> paying for everything that shows ups on the server and you want some
>> compensation, I'll be happy to buy you a beer or a soft drink or a
>> glass of milk if you prefer - no shit. Come down to Texas or meet me
>> at Eloy in a week or so - I'll be there for the 4way competition.
>>
>You mean their is more than one dingle berry on here Jerry?
Good point, actually. Actually, there may well be (I hope not) but I
was really just referring to you, of course. But then, you get your
ass out to a dz or Eloy and while I wouldn't expect you to accept,
I'll at least offer to get ya a drink since you got off your ass and
made the effort. Shit, Peanut's gonna love this - I just promised you
a drink. If it will make you feel any better I'll likely stick my
finger in it or something.
>
>> >So far, not counting the first two, Snuffy 21, Jerry 18.
>>
>> Yeah, but who's counting, eh?
>>
>Somebody needs to. I don't want to fall behind.
I think that Robot Reporter takes care of that.
>
>> >How many posts would he make if you didn't reply to the great majority?
>
>Someone would take his place, that's his biggest fear
Naw, I think people just forget how much you were posting all over the
map before I weighed in. Now it's just a couple two or three threads
that go on forever. I'm sure that if I didn't do the deconstruction
dance and give you a ration of shit, you be still at it, ad naseum.
>
>> You'd have to ask him -
>
>See above <smirk>
>
>
>
> I can only hazard a guess based on past
>> experience, but I do remember clearly, long before I weighed in, that
>> the dingleberry posted a lot, and it wasn't just the tit for tat,
>> maybe a couple two or three long threads here like now, but initiating
>> numerous threads, lots of trolling, ect. Numerically speaking it's
>> probably pretty close to what it's ever been, barring times where he
>> wasn't bothering to post at all - and I don't seem to remember too
>> much of people trying to call him out of his hole during those various
>> episodes - certainly not myself, that's for sure. That said, him
>> invoking me? Happens on an all to regular basis, but I don't have a
>> problem with it, just some perspective. To answer your question,
>> likely just as much, if not more. It is what it is, Mike. I was
>> enjoying the quiet, kinda bemused but ultimately bored with the
>> crossposters, I give a fair answer to a fair question about what gear
>> to get and dingleberry just has to leap in, doing the monkey dance.
>> Hell, who am I to deny him probably one of the few pleasures he might
>> have left? Besides, he's a better dancer when he's got someone who
>> can lead to guide him across the floor.
>>
>> -Jerry
>
>Send a pushy chick....I ain't into that USTA girlyboy shit Jerry!
Gotta wait for the song to end, sweetie - it might upset the audience
if you stalk off the floor now.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
wrote:
>On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 05:07:18 -0500, Jer.K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>
>>>Too bad you don't know how to use what you've been "taught" -- you
>>>still respond to every single post that Jimmy makes, like a little yap
>>>dog that humps his leg at every chance, as DJMike used to say about
>>>you.
>>
>> No, that's not true. Not every single one - go and look.
>
>That's right -- you respond about 1.13 times for each post he's made
>since 2002.
Is that a real figure or just made up? Near as I can recall, he makes
one and likely I find something to nail him on and back and forth it
goes. If you look at the number of threads he's initiated vs. mine, I
think you'll see a huge disparity in number (since we're talking
numbers, here).
>When you were spouting off about the use of a killfile,
>you obviously weren't talking about either Jimmy or I, since you
>repsond to both, as well as DJMike (a.k.a. "MoM").
Hell, Dave - I think anyone's who had a problem I've suggested the
killfile as a viable solution.
>You're the
>"fuckwit" that's causing the trouble in this newsgroup.
Is it really trouble, Dave? I mean, I can happily accept the
"fuckwit" moniker, no argument there, but trouble??? It's just a
bunch of posts. How is this trouble?
>Jimmy is just
>an ex-jumper that's shooting his mouth off, as everyone has a right
>to..
Granted. But this is not to say that I'm not a current jumper without
the right to shoot my mouth off, eh? Even if I didn't have that right
- I still have the ability, the means, and the will. I don't do it as
a dare for anyone to stop me, Dave, but can any reasonable person
expect to stop me (or anyone else) short of a killfile? It's the
usenet, brother - nature of the beast. You wanna moderate it without
killfiling or the power to kick people out, that's fine by me. I wish
you luck.
>
>> For that matter, you might go look at
>> the top of the thread and see who actually began the fuckwith.
>
>That'd be you. You don't know how to use your killfile, so you respond
>to every single (* 1.13) post he makes.
No, you're wrong. Some whuffo wanted some info and ideas. That was
the top of the thread. Then I responded with info and ideas - this
was 2nd. Jinnie leapt in right after that with the fuckwith - #3, and
as ever, it degenerated from there. As for killfiling ability, of
course I know how and can - I just choose not to but that said, I also
don't complain about the bandwidth, either or liken it to "trouble."
>
>> Yap dog, pedantic lawyer, fish on a hook - call it what you will.
>
>You equate yourself to either a lawyer or a fish? If you said "shit"
>I'd agree with you. A lawyer residing at the bottom of the cesspool of
>humanity is far above you,
Shit, Dave, call me what you will. It's no skin off my ass. What's
with you turning into a harpy all of a sudden? Everything all right?
>
>> I see it as performance art at its most absurd ...
>
>No one would call your posts "art" by any measure whatsoever.
Damn, Dave, call that what you will as well - I never said I was proud
of it - I was just trying to describe it. I've always thought
perofrmance art was one of the more lame-o pseudo-arts out there.
>You're
>one of the people that drags the sport and this newsgroup down into
>the gutter of whoredom.
Sure, Dave - and we are Legion. Seriously, though - skydiving stands
on its, and I believe that. Someone giving someone else shit on a
skydiving newsgroup doesn't matter in the slightest as far as the idea
of dragging the sport down, or even raising it up. As for the
newsgroup itself, oh yeah - things could be better, no doubt, but when
you get down to it, it's the usenet, it's unmoderated, and I don't
give a shit. Fortunately, there are mechanisms for avoiding and
removing that which drags a newsgroup down into the gutter of
whoredom, or anywhere else. Hint: relying on catchy sound-bites like
"gutter of whoredom," ain't one of them, near as I can tell.
>Spurgeon is another one by virtue of the
>endless tandems he does at exhorbitant prices, for the sole purpose of
>lining his and Dause's (a.k.a. Lodi's) pockets.
It's a fact - tandems bring skydivers into the sport. I see this as a
good thing. Personally, I'm scared to do tandems - had a tandem
master lobby me just this past weekend to get that rating but I'm not
gonna do it anytime soon. Anyway, pricing is his (or Lodi's)
business, and no one elses. If it's too expensive, people can take it
elsewhere. I'm guessing there are other purposes beside the sole
pocket lining one. Benefit of the doubt and all, but I'm guessing
people gotta eat, pay bills, maybe retire someday.
>
>I agree with Jimmy that people like all of you are bad for the sport.
>Parasites on the sport, you are.
That's fine, Dave. I'm glad you're at least taking a position. That
said, what are you doing to make the sport better? Are you back
jumping? Hope so.
-Jerry
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:36:10 -0700, lugnutes <dfe...@privy.mulch>
> >Parasites on the sport, you are.
>
> That's fine, Dave. I'm glad you're at least taking a position. That
> said, what are you doing to make the sport better? Are you back
> jumping? Hope so.
>
probably doesn't want to pay for your jump
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
Can't blame 'em - I don't wanna pay for my jump, either.
...bsrp
...jlk
bozo
In reference to Spurgeon and tandems at Lodi.....they happen to have
the lowest priced tandem rates in the country.
Lodi is a "real" dropzone.
bozo
Mike Spurgeon
And I haven't done *anything* just for the money since 1979.
If Bill Dause is 'lining his pockets', he's doing it by providing $15
jumps to 13000' ($13 if bought 50 at a time) and $500 first jump courses
which include 10 jumps and many extras.
If Ferree knows of anything better, I trust he'll mention it.
Mr. MOM
>> Who's to say, except to say the Mutually Assured
>> Killfile is indeed beautiful in its simplicity - it's taught me that.
>
> Too bad you don't know how to use what you've been "taught" -- you
> still respond to every single post that Jimmy makes, like a little yap
> dog that humps his leg at every chance, as DJMike used to say about
> you.
You request...I deliver.
It's long.so time to crack a cold one...sit back.and as before.please enjoy
the journey.
A goodtime day spent with good friends begins to wind down as the sun is
almost below the horizon. Although drained both mentally and physically, you
find yourself restless from the abundance of adrenalin still pulsing through
your veins. Drained as you are, you know there's still one more ritual to
perform before full relaxation can completely set in. It's time to suck on a
couple cold ones, and engage in a round of good-humored bullshit with those
who spent the day as you did.
With gear stowed for another day, you're off to begin that final quest.
After locating the stash and getting those first few ooohhh soooo delicious
swigs down, you stand back and assess the growing crowd. Over in one corner,
there's a gaggle of bodies seemingly crawling over each other, urgently
digging for a beer. It dawns on you as you watch, that it vaguely resembles
a flock of Seagulls fighting over an unattended bag of chips left on the
beach. But I digress.
Beers gotten, first swigs taken, and heads looking for familiar faces,
people start to gather into small groups and inherently everyone begins to
rehash the day's events. As always, they embellish their accomplishments,
and swell in the pride of their successes. Who better to talk with, than
those you did the dance with? Besides.the ritual dictates that we all talk
the walk to establish who danced the best.
For the first hour or so, the chatter is as intense as the day played out.
Hero's are crowned, milestones celebrated, and the day's goats roasted.
Further into the ritual, groups begin to intermingle, or some disperse only
to reform into others. New acquaintances are introduced, and new or visiting
faces finally enter into the local fraternal realm.
Finally, and often unconsciously, that sense of total relaxation creeps up
on you, bringing forth the satisfying knowledge that....Life is truly good.
Wallowing in this satisfaction, you realize time seems to have been standing
still. Watching "see-ya's" being made and the crowd thinning, with people
shuffling off to home, or in groups to search for food to numb the buzz, you
know the evening is growing long.
But, you're not ready to go. It was a great day, and you're not ready to let
it end. It's time to grab another beer and head for the one place everyone
knows, is the ultimate cradle of the die-hards. You head for the fire-pit.
That bastion of complete camaraderie, equality, and tall tales. Yes.there is
always good conversation, entertainment, and comfort to be found at the fire
pit.
Approaching, you recognize the expected faces. There's the Gypsy staff, and
visitors from another land, camping on the DZ. The local "go-fer", gassing
planes by day and keeping drunkards in line by night. Students basking in
euphoria from their new experiences, and neophytes in search of the secrets
that have eluded them, listening intently to the expertise of anyone having
more jumps than themselves. An instructor or videographer sprinkled here and
there, often discussing their nightmarish student, or the staff's pecking
order. The quiet introverts staring intently at the flames, periodically
stoking the fire, and reveling in slow swigs of their drink. And.of course..
the usual assembly of chatterboxes, willing to discuss everything and
anything, leading to everyone else's primary source of entertainment.
As you buck up to the fire, look around to see who's who, and decide where
to plant yourself.there's one other character you recognize. You've seen him
before hanging out, and it dawns on you that every DZ must have one of him.
Not really sure who he is, or why he's here, for some strange reason you've
never really given him a second thought. Unsure why, you just assume he
belongs. He's an older gentleman, and it's obvious by his ruddy features
that his life has been fully lived and then some. Noticing him now in a
different light, and realizing you've seen his kind at other DZ's, his
presence begins to pique your curiosity a bit more.
Maybe he's one of those old geezers who tend to be attracted to these
places. They're usually retired, ceaselessly enjoy watching the activity,
and always on a quest to talk it up with someone.almost as if they're trying
to live vicariously through us. But this guy is different. This person
strikes you as one who talks the lingo with a "been there, done that"
confidence. Yet.confusion is the order because you've never seen him geared
up, on the plane, or walking off the LZ. The guy talks the talk.but.you can't
recall ever seeing him walk the walk.
Now you find yourself paying more attention to the man. The conversations go
round and round, and every so often this old geezer pipes up and adds a
little to the topic. A gruff old bastard..talks with a drawl, and not too
caring about what he says or who's listening. It's strange in a way...that
you want to hear what the man says, but your attention span wanes, due to
having a hard time comprehending the jibber jabber style this man speaks.
The man reminds you of an old cartoon character, with his kinda poetic,
kinda prophetic, kinda braggadocios, all wrapped up in a half English, half
who the hell knows what kinda language.
In typical fire-pit fashion, people come and go, the conversations ebb and
flow, and occasionally you give a pat to a passing dog or two, looking for
morsels. You find yourself amused by a few of the newbies trying their
hardest to get in bragging rights, only to be upstaged by one of the more
elder of the group. The one up-man ship comes and goes with the different
topics, and every so often a neophyte or student, talks a little too tall.
This usually brings on a few choice words from others, often with a quick
lesson from an old-timer. As you listen, it dawns on you this is usually
when the old guy with the drawl pipes up.
Just about this time, some neophyte is arguing with an old-timer about how
the good old days are meaningless in the sports environment today. The
debate gets juicy, and sure enough, that old cartoon character pipes up but
good. The rant begins and through the fuzziness of his speech, distinct
words like sumbitch, punks, money grubber's, sheep, sell outs, whuffo's,
wuss's, and something about the strut, are clearly heard, but not much else
registers. All in all, you enjoy the animated tirade for what it is, but at
the same time, see he just may have a point or two.
During this latest go-round.from nowhere.a little mutt of a dog begins
yappin. With most everyone distracted by the rants of the old man, they don't
notice the yip, yip, yap, yap noise at the perimeter, until all of a sudden
the homeliest little dog appears from the shadows. As you see it running
full bore at the old man, your first thoughts are "how the hell did a Shih
Tzu mate with a Great Dane?" Initially perplexed by it's ugliness, it takes
a second to comprehend the mutt's actions, but like a slow motion dream, the
constant yap, yap, yip, grrrrr, yip, grrr, yap, yap sinks in, as well as the
sight of this rodent lunging full tilt towards the drawl master.
Upon reaching it's destination, the little fleabag surprises everyone.
Rather than doing the expected of attacking and snapping, it proceeds to
mount the gab bastard with a four legged-lock on his shin, and dry hump him
with a stiffy, enormous for a dog that size. A truly unbelievable sight,
watching this hairy mutt go at it with the speed of a hamster, all the while
snarling, drooling, and yapping up a storm. After a moment of stunned
silence from the crowd, laughter breaks out as the old man starts cursing
the dog. Eventually, after most hurt from the hilarity of it all, the dog
finishes with one last long messy groan, dismounts, gives itself a quick
lick, and struts off back into the shadows.
Not sure if what you just witnessed, stunned you into sobriety, or another
beer is needed to help comprehend, you decide it's time for another and off
you go. Besides, as you walk away, it's obvious the topics have changed at
least for the time being. Upon returning, the conversations seem to get back
on track, and with continued alcohol consumption, many of the stories grow
taller. Soon enough, the fire-pit again goes through that ritual of the
wrong person attempting to brag too big.leading to the wrath of others.
After being relatively quiet with no more than a few mumbles and grumbles,
the gruff old bastard finally pipes in again, and starts with his rants of
sheep, punks, struts and other things.
"What the".is said by more than one, when just as sudden as the last time,
this same mutt flashes forth from the dark, and noisily lunges at the old
man. Snarls, growls, grunts, yaps, and yips, is the only thing heard as all
watch in amazement. Although this time, it doesn't take as long for the old
man to put up a defense and sling insults at the dog. Humping away with the
same vigor as before, the laughter erupts, and someone actually comments
about the little studs prowess. This brings on even more laughter as pooch
finishes his business, gives a quick lick, and saunters off into the dark.
So.that does it..this is not yet the time to call it a night and go home.
This is too good, and it's getting the fire-pit rowdy.
Not caring, but knowing time is passing.you listen as the conversation's
flow. Sure enough the old man kicks up his tone to berate some youngster. It
can't be.but it's happening again. Like a flash, this rat hound is humpin
the codger's leg, while snarling, drooling, and yapping, just like the first
time. As before.with a quick lick, and a prance into the shadows.it left yet
another gooey mess. However this time, you notice the laughter isn't as
boisterous. Yourself and others.besides wishing you could lay the loads as
often as the dog.are getting concerned with what's going on. Why the old man
you wonder. What set's off the mutt? More than that, where did this mutt
come from?
Well.sure enough. After some time has passed, and things get back to the
usual, debates flair again. As before, the crotchety codger tries to say his
piece, but is interrupted once again by this horny, angry, mangy mutt. The
common thought begins to turn from hilarity, to "here we go again". Although
the target of the dog, and certainly a compromising situation for him, not
even the old man wants to pay the humping hound much attention. "Jeez...what's
up with this", is said by one, with others replying to the mutt to "leave
him be", and "go find a bitch". As before, the rodent hound finishes his
nasty, proudly licks himself, and struts off. The mood has changed, and many
at the fire-pit.not wanting to see another performance.start thinking about
calling it a night. The pooch has started to poop the party.
Just about this time, a voice is heard in the distance.
"Jeeeeeeerrrrrryyyyy....come here boy....Jerry.Jeeeerrrrryyyyyy..come
on..time to go home". HEY....any of you guys over there seen my dog Jerry?
Mr. MOM
I was
> enjoying the quiet, kinda bemused but ultimately bored with the
> crossposters, I give a fair answer to a fair question about what gear
> to get and dingleberry just has to leap in, doing the monkey dance.
> Hell, who am I to deny him probably one of the few pleasures he might
> have left? Besides, he's a better dancer when he's got someone who
> can lead to guide him across the floor.
Yeah...it works. Just replace Roger Nelsons name with "paging Jerry K Dink".
"THE MASTURBATING MONKEY DANCE" Thats right folks......think about it.
You're in the Zoo. You go visit theMonkey display. You're standing in front
of a glass front cage filled withthose squirrely kind of Monkeys (Reasis
monkeys, or whatever they're called).They're all in there romping around,
playing, squaking, making monkey sounds.Every so often one of them picks up
feces and tosses it at another monkey, orat the display window. Basically,
they're in there acting like monkeys. As you stand there watching the
monkeys.......you hear an anouncement over thePA system. "Paging Roger
Nelson.......Paging Roger Nelson". All of a sudden andout of nowhere, this
one Monkey jumps up onto the perch that is directly infront of the display
window, and faces you. With one hand he reaches up andgrabs another perch
above his head. The Monkey squats down, spreads it's legswide, and with his
other hand takes hold of it's teeny tiny member. You look atthe Monkeys
face. His head is cocked backwards, a glazed over look in it's eyesas they
roll uncontrolably in their sockets. Tongue hanging limp out the sideof his
mouth, with a steady stream of drool dripping off its tip. You suddenly
notice a rhythmic rocking motion throughout the Monkeys body. Asyou slowly
look lower, you notice the tightened muscles throughout the Monkeysbody. The
hand holding the perch is clenched white knuckle tight. The otherhand,
holding what has now grown to the size of a teenie weenie, is engaged ina
fast, furious pumping action. As you stand there mezmorized by the
display,you notice that the furious pumping action increases in speed
building up intoa blur. At the same time the body begins to convulse as if
going into a severeepileptic seizure. The facial expression all sorts of
contorted, almost as ifin pain. Suddenly, the Monkeys lets loose with an ear
shattering, high pitched,eternally long wailing scream. Just as this primal
moan seems to besubsiding.......the Monkey lets loose, and splooges right at
your face, only tobe halted by the glass front of the cage. As you stand
there thinking to yourslf.........."what the fuck was that
allabout".......the monkey jumps down off the perch, disappears, and blends
backin with all the other Monkeys romping around in the cage. You stand
there for a minute or two, and ponder what you have just witnessed.Just as
you get to the point of shaking it out of your head, and deciding tomove on
to another display..............you hear over the PAsystem......"paging
Roger Nelson........ Paging Roger Nelson". Next thing youknow..........you
are once again bearing witness to.................. "THE MASTERBATING MONKEY
DANCE" So boys and girls. If you are compelled to make a useless post
telling TantrumTerry to "get a life" after reading one of his
rants...............I suggestyou don't do it. Rather......when you feel that
urge to yell at him............just rememberthis mental image.
Then.............make your post your compelled tomake......and let everyone
else know that it's only TantrumTerry...............doing"THE MASTURBATING
MONKEY DANCE"...................again. Hell........maybe someof the kill
filers will take him off the list......just to witness all the fun.
BBBBWWWWWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the unknown flailer
He's not his self------I didn't hear him scream FAGGOT when he spied
Jerry waiting
around for someone to buy him a jumpticket ;)
the unknown flailer
Mr. MOM wrote:
> Yeah...it works. Just replace Roger Nelsons name with "paging Jerry K Dink".
>
> BBBBWWWWWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No Jerrys no Tandem Terry, he lacks a JM endorcement.
And R.N. may he rest in peace, did as much or more to advance the sport
than most.
of the ego ridden twits in this sport. Ran a slick DZ, Intoduced
students to Zp's, provided a platform for mega-ways etc etc etc.
the unknown flailer
DAMN I feel like telling a sea story, a world class boot is lurking!
0~;-)