-Skydivers don't breathe while they are freefalling because
they absorb all the oxygen they need through their skin.
-That's why skydivers rarely parachute through clouds because
the moisture would block absorption of oxygen and cause them
to suffocate.
I wish I could remember the other claims they made, but the two
above were the most ridiculous sounding. Can someone please tell
me if there is any truth to these?
Andy
Hi Andy,
Of course that is true, thats why skydivers always turn blue in the face...
:-)
Regards Daniel
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If you jump through clouds, you will surley DIE!!!
"Andrew (Andy) Sommer" <andys...@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:3A3861A9...@operamail.com...
Yes, I'm afraid they are both true. Never, ever parachute through
clouds. You could die.
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http://www.deja.com/
Geeze!
And -I- always thought the ultimate adventure was snipe hunting.
Paul
Does absurd mean anything to you?
I'll admit right now that I don't have nearly as many jumps as other
people on this group, but....
* I tend to actually breath during a skydive. Surprising as that may
sound. How about you?
* Clouds? I find them "yucky", leaving a cloud I always feel a little
dirty, I suspect it's the humidity. I've never suffocated in a cloud
though. The biggest danger that clouds pose is that you have reduced
visibility while you're in them.
Again, absurd? Mean anything?
-
Jim
>Andrew (Andy) Sommer wrote:
>> I watched this true adventure TV show called "Ushuaia: The Ultimate
>> Adventure" about four weeks ago.
Absolutely true. Ya cant breathe in the clouds.....and that even doesn't take
into account the Crawling Eye.
Ya gotta be really careful in those ol' clouds.
I know I am. :o)
jim.....made a jump or two.................thousand :o)
"Once you have tasted flight you will forever walk the earth with your eyes
turned skyward, for there you have been and there you long to be."
Da Vinci
Blue Skies & Safe Dives from Mike Turoff,
Candidate for USPA's BOD (National Position)
Co-author (with Dan Poynter) of
Parachuting, The Skydivers Handbook
Instructor Examiner and Tandem Examiner, Jump Pilot
In article <20001214083640...@ng-fc1.aol.com>,
--
"Adventure, excitement, a Jedi craves not these things."
JMG
--N
D-9499
PS You may be as big a fish as the producers of Ushuaia. Try to shake that
hook out of your mouth.
"Andrew (Andy) Sommer" <andys...@operamail.com> wrote in message
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Tony.
> It was back in the Spring of `75, I believe. I was fairly new to
skydiving
> and didn't know how dangerous clouds are. I inadvertently went
through one,
> suffocated, passed out and bounced at about 125 MPH. I vowed never to
do it
> again.
--
I have no wish to attain immortality through my work.
I wish to attain immortality through not dying
Woody Al
...
> -Skydivers don't breathe while they are freefalling because
> they absorb all the oxygen they need through their skin.
>
> -That's why skydivers rarely parachute through clouds because
> the moisture would block absorption of oxygen and cause them
> to suffocate.
>
> I wish I could remember the other claims they made, but the two
> above were the most ridiculous sounding. Can someone please tell
> me if there is any truth to these?
...
Yes, they're all true. =B^)
Not only that, but many skydivers have scarred faces from freefalling
through rain.
Many of them will lie about it and modestly claim that it's from teen
acne, but it's really from years and years of hitting the pointy end of
those raindrops.
- tony
_____________________________________________________________________
The only thing to do with good advice is pass it on. It is never any
use to oneself.
- -- Oscar Wilde
-
Dave Brownell
HAW HAW!!
Mark
(Australia!)
Yes indeedy do, it is true. Just look here at the FAQ:
http://www.afn.org/skydive/faq/faq.html#whuffo which is obviously
where the folks from that show did their (exhaustive) research into
skydiving.
I jump thru clouds just to get that suffocating feeling, kinda like
some people get off on being suffocated during sex (can you say "Auto-
erotic asphyxiation?" or "Michael Hutchence?"). It really adds to the
rush. If you do it after jumping a DC-3 that's been straining to get
to 14,000 ft, you might actually see stars, or need the services of
your AAD.
:)
Darin
D-19617
And the people who actually believe it are not at fault, right?
Like Snuffy says, "Stupid is what stupid does."
Espen
ALF#1
"Ron Laval" <road...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:SF1_5.1394$%v1.4...@ozemail.com.au...
>I think you should write the network and tell them that it's morons
>like your production staff that perpetrates these insane fallacies.
>
>Dave Brownell
>
So what should their production staff do? It seems like the responsible
thing would be to check the rec.skydiving faq, which says exactly what they
repeated.
Bob Church
>I think you should write the network and tell them that it's morons
>like your production staff that perpetrates these insane fallacies.
>
>Dave Brownell
Their production team is just quoting the otherwise excellent rec.skydiving
faq. How are they supposed to know that that part is a joke? Faqs are
supposed to be there to introduce newbies to the facts, not troll them.
If anyone's being irresponsible, it's leaving that in the faq, at least the
way it's worded.
Bob Church
From the faq;
This is also why jumpers do not jump on cloudy days or when they might risk
going through clouds. The moisture in the clouds can condense on their
exposed
skin surfaces preventing the absorption of the necessary oxygen resulting
in
suffocation. AADs are recommended for jumpers in climates where weather is
a
factor.
> From: chu...@oak.cats.ohiou.edu (Bob Church)
> Organization: OU School of Art
> Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
> Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 10:41:49 -0500
> Subject: Re: Parachuting through clouds will suffocate you?
>
> Obviously you have opened the lid on a can of worms for many people.
>Rec.Skydiving is not truly an authority on diddly shit. Nor is the opinion
>or comments of most people that post here of great value since you have no
>idea if the person has 500 or zero jumps, has a hard on for skydivers, is a
>100 jump wonder with ALL the answers or just enjoys a few "jokes" as you
>stated.
You should never accept anything as fact based on someone's post, but a faq
is a document that can be assumed to have been read by most people
participating in the forum.
Should everyone assume that the entire faq is horseshit? How does a
non-skydiver know? If they find out that that part of the faq is wrong then
why should they believe any of it, so why bother including the good
information.
There's no reason or excuse for deliberately putting false information in a
faq. If that's the way it is, then we have no business calling the people
who use the information morons.
Or maybe they're stupid for taking anything skydivers seriously. That's
going to help a lot the next time we tell an airport's authority that we
can have skydiving without interfering with other planes, or anything else.
Hundreds of skydivers have participated in rec.skydiving at one time or
another, and the entry about not breathing in freefall makes liars or
idiots out of all of us.
Bob Church
Mike Manuel <mma...@ll.net> wrote in message
news:B66E9E7B.26E5%mma...@ll.net...
> The first reason to not fall through clouds is that it is illegal.
The
> second is it is illegal & dangerous. The third is (especially if a small
> DZ) FAA rule 105.29 says a pilot may not allow skydivers to exit as to
enter
> a cloud--which means the pilot could lose his license or be fined.
> SD Mike
>
> Should everyone assume that the entire faq is horseshit?
No, but neither should everyone assume the FAQ is true. In fact, no one
should assume ANYTHING they read ANYWHERE on the internet is true.
It's a starting point, but anything used from the internet as "facts"
should be backed up through a trustworthy point of contact (such as USPA
in this case).
Blindly trusting anything you read on the internet, even an apparently
trustworthy source, is asking for trouble.
Repeating "facts" from the Internet is a slippery slope, and
any "responsible" news organization shouldn't be so stupid as to
believe everything that's posted on the 'Net. They employ fact
checkers who "second-source" things to make sure they don't look stupid
(well, OK, the whole FL election thing was a real eye-opener, huh?)
when they broadcast something like that. Hell, that's worked for the
print media for a long, long time. Why shouldn't the broadcast media be
held to a similar standard.
There's nothing wrong with a little tongue-in-cheek joke in the FAQ,
and woe be anybody who quotes it authoritatively without double-
checking.
If you look at the FAQ with any semblance of thought, you'd realize
that particular section is a joke.. See below
""How do you breathe in freefall?"
and other Whuffo Questions.
"How do you breath in freefall?"
Through genetically developed gills.
This falls into the realm of urban folklore. One CAN breathe in
freefall - if it were necessary. However, due to the high speed of
terminal freefall (and much higher speeds in vertical freefall dives),
the jumper's body is exposed to O2 molecules at a much higher rate than
someone walking around on the ground. The body is able to absorb the
necessary O2 through the skin. This is why jumpers flap their cheeks in
freefall, it presents a larger surface area to the airstream for oxygen
osmosis. Once under canopy, the jumper resumes breathing normally.
This is also why jumpers do not jump on cloudy days or when they might
risk going through clouds. The moisture in the clouds can condense on
their exposed skin surfaces preventing the absorption of the necessary
oxygen resulting in suffocation. AADs are recommended for jumpers in
climates where weather is a factor.
Other Whuffo Questions
"Don't your ears pop on the way down?"
"Yes, we're not ignoring you, we're deaf."
"What if you have to go the bathroom in the plane?"
"Go ahead!"
"Can you steer your parachute?"
"No, one time I landed in Jamacia."
"Does it hurt?"
"Yes, that's why we jump all the time! Masochism!"
"What if your parachute doesn't open?"
"Gee, I never thought of that..."
"Why do you jump?"
"Why do _you_ breathe?"
"Where do you jump?"
"O'Hare, Midway, LAX, Dulles, where ever I happen to be." (:-) "
I mean, come on. Get a grip.
Darin
D-19617
> > Hi Andy,
> > Of course that is true, thats why skydivers always turn blue in the
> face...
> > :-)
> >
> > Regards Daniel
> >
> No. No. No!!! The reason skydivers faces always turn blue is because
> of the mass consumption of Nitrous Oxide at numerous boogies
> throuughout the year. WaWaWaWaWaWaWaWaWaWaWaWaWaWaWaWaWa!!!
ASSHOLE!
Now I have to clean Pepsi off of my screen and keyboard! :)
Last time I did Nitrous, my friend blew out his knee. No shit, I'm
standing there with the world going WaWaWaWaWa and I look over to see
him collapse. It was very surreal. Turns out that he tore up his
meniscus by tripping (in a hole, smartass). It was funny cause it
happened to him and not me.
-Andy
As soon as you're born you begin to die,
So you might as well have a good time.
so you mean i shouldnt flare with my front risers then? hmmm, and i thought
i was getting sound advise
"the freak with neon yellow hair"
kevin (shaggy) bruff
HellFish # 13
Everyone I know that skydived through a cloud suffocated, including me.
Did you know that "gullible" has only one "l" in it? Check the
dictionary.
--
jsk
145265
I think this is a scream every time it comes up here. I know I don't
jump through clouds for just this reason.
izzy
--
Peace & Love
Dan
USDA Zone 5
Well, just ask brandon how it fells to FORGET to take your hands out of your
risers when you go to flare.....HE HE.......He did this in dallas. In case any
of you were there when he did it, laugh at him for me.
blues
Josh M.
See TY, he's always had a sense of humor :o)
Espen
ALF#1
freeflyer wrote:
> kallend wrote:
> >
> > Did you know that "gullible" has only one "l" in it? Check the
> > dictionary.
>
> See TY, he's always had a sense of humor :o)
Well, he was good at hiding it. I'm glad to see he finally came out of
the closet. :o)
He never hid it, he was just too busy trying to get an ALF
number :o)
Espen
ALF#1
freeflyer wrote:
> TY wrote:
> >
> > > > Did you know that "gullible" has only one "l" in it? Check the
> > > > dictionary.
> > >
> > > See TY, he's always had a sense of humor :o)
> >
> > Well, he was good at hiding it. I'm glad to see he finally came out of
> > the closet. :o)
>
> He never hid it, he was just too busy trying to get an ALF
> number :o)
Why are you all so interested in getting numbers anyway??? The only numbers
I'm interested in getting are my license numbers. Is this what happens after
you get your "D"?
TY
Actually, it's because I no longer get numbers with my
skydiving licenses. The Norwegian Parachute Federation quit
putting numbers on the licenses a couple of years ago, so I
only got one for my B-license <sniff>.
Oh, and I only have a 'C' btw, so it hasn't nothing to do
with getting the 'D' :o)
Espen
ALF#1
> Why are you all so interested in getting numbers anyway??? The only numbers
>> I'm interested in getting are my license numbers. Is this what happens
>after
>> you get your "D"?
>
>
And you made fum of me for missing sarcasm, Donna.
Shoe fits pretty good dont it ?
:o)
jim , D-10154
TMI/01
JimBo wrote:
I think you are still wearing it, Jim, so I wouldn't know! :o)
Didn't have to try :-)
> Espen
> ALF#1
>
> http://www.public.iastate.edu/~zeppelin/
Is this what you'd call a redundant reply? :o)
Espen
ALF#1
Just clarification for the record. There are 6 "naturals" and one
who showed it could be done without natural talent by hard work alone.
--
jsk
NALF#3
There seems to be an influx of naturals at the moment, so
don't put too much trust in those numbers :o)
Espen
ALF#1