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Skydvrr33

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Feb 20, 2003, 11:44:31 AM2/20/03
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Pussy's !

That's all they are!

Cloud buster

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Feb 20, 2003, 1:10:30 PM2/20/03
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>Pussy's !
>
>That's all they are!

Yeah! We should all boycott french fries!!

travis...@mail.boisestate.edu

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Feb 20, 2003, 1:59:22 PM2/20/03
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Cloud buster <cloud...@aol.com> wrote:
> Yeah! We should all boycott french fries!!

Hang on, hang on... what are french women all about?
Maybe we want to conquer france instead and take their
women?

-shane

jsk

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Feb 20, 2003, 2:23:20 PM2/20/03
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Skydvrr33 wrote:
>
> Pussy's !
>
> That's all they are!


Old news. Any Brit in the last 900 years could have told you that.

Big M

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Feb 20, 2003, 2:49:26 PM2/20/03
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Hey...hey...hey...the French have always been there when they needed us!


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Jacques

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Feb 20, 2003, 4:27:53 PM2/20/03
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By saying things like this, you only add to the general impression most
europeans have about americans.

- Jacques

ps. I'm a Dane not French, just to aviod the most heated of flames!

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Ofiddle

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Feb 20, 2003, 4:41:17 PM2/20/03
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>
>Hey...hey...hey...the French have always been there when they needed us!

Personally, I'm boycotting French wines. Anybody have a beer?

DeanaDay

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Feb 20, 2003, 4:52:04 PM2/20/03
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>Maybe we want to conquer france instead and take their
>women?
>
>-shane
>

LOL LOL At first glance at your post, I thought you said "maybe we want to
couquer france and take hair women"
LOL sorry.......
Blue Ones 4u,
DD

O Cuinn Mac an Ghabbann

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Feb 20, 2003, 4:55:21 PM2/20/03
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>"Skydvrr33"
>Pussy's !
>>
>> That's all they are!

>By saying things like this, you only add >to the general impression most


>europeans have about americans.
>
>- Jacques
>
>ps. I'm a Dane not French, just to aviod the most heated of flames!

yes yew are correct....effete wud huv been a better word choice! ;-*


~All living holds suffering
Misery stops when greed stops~

O Cuinn Mac an Ghabbann

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Feb 20, 2003, 5:04:15 PM2/20/03
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> (Ofiddle)

>Personally, I'm boycotting French wines. Anybody have a beer?
>

American wine passed french wine in quality and boutique years ago, I keep
telling yew yuppies to buy US brand's.

Winsor Naugler III

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Feb 20, 2003, 5:27:44 PM2/20/03
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"Ofiddle" <ofi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >
> >Hey...hey...hey...the French have always been there when they needed us!
>
> Personally, I'm boycotting French wines. Anybody have a beer?

Howzabout a Kronenbourg?


Jerry K.

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Feb 20, 2003, 5:36:42 PM2/20/03
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On 20 Feb 2003 22:04:15 GMT, to...@aol.com (O Cuinn Mac an Ghabbann )
wrote:

>> (Ofiddle)
>
>>Personally, I'm boycotting French wines. Anybody have a beer?
>>
>
>American wine passed french wine in quality and boutique years ago, I keep
>telling yew yuppies to buy US brand's.
>

Californian wine?

...bsrp
...jlk

Cloud buster

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Feb 20, 2003, 7:32:37 PM2/20/03
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The wino sed:

>American wine passed french wine in quality and boutique years ago, I keep
>telling yew yuppies to buy US brand's.

Specifically, California wine.
(now watch the old fart make some joke using the word "whine")

D


Ofiddle

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Feb 20, 2003, 7:45:10 PM2/20/03
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>> Personally, I'm boycotting French wines. Anybody have a beer?
>
>Howzabout a Kronenbourg?

well, I guess I will have a little California wine, a little Deutsch Bier, and
a little of my own wine. Notice mine is last.YUK!!
Ugly, but doesn't taste bad.

Peanut4040

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Feb 20, 2003, 7:48:09 PM2/20/03
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>
>Old news. Any Brit in the last 900 years could have told you that.
>

yeah, but the brits have been fighting with the Irish for 700 years,-- WHO
would believe them?

Peanut4040

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Feb 20, 2003, 7:51:34 PM2/20/03
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>By saying things like this, you only add to the general impression most
>europeans have about americans.
>
>- Jacques
>
>ps. I'm a Dane not French, just to aviod the most heated of flames!

Grin, i can stil respect the danes, However the next time the Herms invade
France, I'm Investing my 401K money in Germany.

t-roy

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Feb 20, 2003, 8:12:18 PM2/20/03
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Dear Dad:

>
>A funny thing happened to me yesterday at Camp Bondsteel (Bosnia): A French
army officer walked up to me in the PX, and told me he thought we
(Americans) were a bunch of cowboys and were going to provoke a war in Iraq.
He said if such a thing happens, we wouldn't be able to count on the support
of France. I told him that it didn't surprise me. Since we had come to
France's rescue in World War I, World War II, Vietnam, and the Cold War,
their ingratitude and jealousy was due to surface [again] at some point in
the near future anyway.
>
>I also told him that is why France is a third-rate military power with a
socialist economy and a bunch of pansies for soldiers. I additionally told
him that America, being a nation of deeds and action, not words, would do
whatever it had to do, and France's support, if it ever came, was only for
show anyway. Just like in ALL NATO exercises, the US would shoulder
>85% of the burden, and provide 85% of the support, as evidenced by the fact
that this French officer was shopping in the American PX, and not the other
way around.
>
>He began to get belligerent at that point, and I told him if he would like
to, I would meet him outside in front of the Burger King and whip his rear
in front of the entire Multinational Brigade East, thus demonstrating that
even the smallest American had more fight in him than the average Frenchman.
>
>He called me a barbarian cowboy and walked away in a huff. With friends
like these, who needs enemies? Dad, tell Mom I love her,
>
>Your loving daughter,
>
>Mary Beth Johnson Lt Col., USMC


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tu...@dellepro.com

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Feb 20, 2003, 8:22:57 PM2/20/03
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Yea,
And ya know why they're called FROGS?
cuz they fight with they're feet and
fuck with there tongues......

And French chicks dont
perform @#$%
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O Cuinn Mac an Ghabbann

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Feb 20, 2003, 8:26:20 PM2/20/03
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Yes Napa Valley but the Texas Llano region eine is excellent also. Let the
french
eat cheese and whine about the Amie's

Cloud buster

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Feb 20, 2003, 8:34:11 PM2/20/03
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>By saying things like this, you only add to the general impression most
>europeans have about americans.

We began 'saying things like this' because of all the mud-slinging and
nonappreciaition given to us by the euros, after all the times USA stepped up
to the plate to help.
Ungrateful bastards

Duke

Peanut4040

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Feb 20, 2003, 8:39:57 PM2/20/03
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I was wrong about the Herms. Why should we depend on them to do the job they
tried to do twice- and we stopped them. Hey Herm,, WE'RE SORRY,, we messed
up... but anywkay,

Why send a boy to do a mans job. Hey Herm, can we use your air space? Can
you set up a legitimate burecracy after we leave?

ynotssor

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Feb 20, 2003, 9:45:28 PM2/20/03
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"Ofiddle" <ofi...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20030220164117...@mb-ba.aol.com...


> Personally, I'm boycotting French wines. ...

Hogue Cellars is very, very high-quality selection of wines and is widely
available. The winery was designed, built and is operated by longtime U.S.
Paraski and Parachute Accuracy competitor Dave Forsyth. Many of us
have jumped into the winery grounds many times.

We call him the "Master Winer". You can't go wrong buying his product.


tony

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Mr. MOM

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Feb 20, 2003, 10:37:36 PM2/20/03
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>By saying things like this, you only add to the general impression most
>europeans have about americans.
>
>- Jacques
>
>ps. I'm a Dane not French, just to aviod the most heated of flames!

Psssstttt........hey Jaques........here's a little secret for you. Most of us
here in the U.S. really don't care what the rest of the fucked-up world thinks
about us.

We know we're the greatest Nation on the planet, and little pissy socialist
countries like yours and the rest of euro-weenie-land, are just envious of our
freedoms, strength, and wealth.

Now run along little man.......go back to whining about us amongst yourselves.

USPA SUCKS ----- Because some pigs are more equal than other pigs

Mr. MOM
Still waiting for USPA to toss my sorry ass out.

The only guarantee in Skydiving is ... you WILL land !

Tandmterry

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Feb 21, 2003, 12:01:17 AM2/21/03
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>From: peanu...@aol.com (Peanut4040)

> I'm Investing my 401K money in Germany.

I thought your ex got that???

Terry

Kopperflash

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Feb 21, 2003, 12:40:13 AM2/21/03
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Leno said it best the other night:

"Why should we expect the French to help us get Saddam out of Iraq, when the
French would'nt help us get Germany out of France"


David Ferree

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Feb 20, 2003, 8:45:07 PM2/20/03
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You know, something really funny, I think, is that with all the
potential slings and arrows available to people here, apparently
nobody has noticed my name's heritage. Sorry, I can't give myself
irony scores.

David

Chewie

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Feb 21, 2003, 6:06:53 AM2/21/03
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to...@aol.com (O Cuinn Mac an Ghabbann ) wrote
>
> Yes Napa Valley but the Texas Llano region eine is excellent also.

Is this the texan definition of a dinner: fix the bigmacs into Texas
Red; water down with budweiser to avoid holes in your shoes.
Please, someone tell them: jalapeno is not grapes.
--
Chewie [beer adjudicator]

Rob

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Feb 21, 2003, 6:28:19 AM2/21/03
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"Peanut4040" <peanu...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >
> >Old news. Any Brit in the last 900 years could have told you that.
> >
>
> yeah, but the brits have been fighting with the Irish for 700 years,-- WHO
> would believe them?

this isn't quite true
the Brits where asked to go into Ireland by the southern Irish to stop the
getting wiped out by the northern Irish.
if the Brits had been fighting with them they would of wiped them out long
ago.

bobby (a Brit)


Rob

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Feb 21, 2003, 6:37:28 AM2/21/03
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"t-roy" <t-royr...@ev1.net> wrote in message news:<v5aut2o...@corp.supernews.com>...
> Dear Dad:
>
> >
> >A funny thing happened to me yesterday at Camp Bondsteel (Bosnia): A French
> army officer walked up to me in the PX, and told me he thought we
> (Americans) were a bunch of cowboys and were going to provoke a war in Iraq.
> He said if such a thing happens, we wouldn't be able to count on the support
> of France. I told him that it didn't surprise me. Since we had come to
> France's rescue in World War I, World War II, Vietnam, and the Cold War,
> their ingratitude and jealousy was due to surface [again] at some point in
> the near future anyway.

you rescued france from vietnam?? then who rescued you??
because you did so! well there!

X. Noneda

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"Skydvrr33" <skyd...@aol.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag

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> Pussy's !
>
> That's all they are!


Maybe, but the french outskydive the americans by miles... that what counts
!

PS: I'm not French :-)


Tom

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"Rob" <skyd...@orange.net> wrote in message
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Chuck Norris of coarse , sheeze don't you anything?


Tom

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"Tom" <t...@witheld.com> wrote in message news:3e57...@quokka.wn.com.au...
The missing word is " know" and it sits in between you and anything.


Martin Evans

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Feb 21, 2003, 11:56:55 AM2/21/03
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On 2/21/03 8:35 AM, in article 3e562b2e$0$609$4d4e...@read.news.ch.uu.net,
"X. Noneda" <x.noneda@_nowhere__.com> wrote:

> "Skydvrr33" <skyd...@aol.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:20030220114431...@mb-fk.aol.com...
>> Pussy's !
>>
>> That's all they are!
>
>
> Maybe, but the french outskydive the americans by miles... that what counts!

You are delusional though and you can't keep score!


> PS: I'm not French :-)


PS I'm not American ;-)


BO
SS

Martin

Jacques

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Feb 21, 2003, 2:58:19 PM2/21/03
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I believe you!

The only problem is that you make a lot of enemies with that attitude and
behaviour. Some of the enemies you make have teeth, as I'm sure you have
noticed!

Just in case you don't know this, Europe is the closest friend USA has in
the world. When your closest friend disagrees with you, maybe you should
reconsider what you are doing.

- Jacques


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Martin Evans

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On 2/21/03 2:58 PM, in article
3e5684d8$0$15886$edfa...@dread11.news.tele.dk, "Jacques"
<ns...@NOSPAM.tdcadsl.dk> wrote:

> I believe you!
>
> The only problem is that you make a lot of enemies with that attitude and
> behaviour. Some of the enemies you make have teeth, as I'm sure you have
> noticed!
>
> Just in case you don't know this, Europe is the closest friend USA has in
> the world. When your closest friend disagrees with you, maybe you should
> reconsider what you are doing.


Whoa up there buddy boy! Let's rephrase that shall we. Great Britain is the
closest friend the USA has in the World...and we back up our posturing with
commitment and action, not lip service!

Furthermore, just in case you don't know this, the UK is NOT part of Europe,
no matter what, apart from a few wishy washy eurocrats your general man in
the street Brit does not consider himself a European. If the channel wasn't
already there we would have dug it! ;-p

Just thought that needed clarifying! ;-)


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jsk

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Feb 21, 2003, 3:46:44 PM2/21/03
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What he said.

Bob

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Feb 21, 2003, 4:31:28 PM2/21/03
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Psst, hey Jacques, you don't recall who it was that liberated France do you?
It seems like France has forgotten about all of the US Servicemen that died
freeing them from Nazi Germany.

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D3331

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Feb 21, 2003, 4:34:23 PM2/21/03
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"Jacques" ns...@NOSPAM.tdcadsl.dk Wrote:
>Just in case you don't know this, Europe is the closest friend USA has in the
world.<
---------------------------------------------------

Canada is our closest friend and they speak English like we do.
Their friendly, brew outstanding Beer and play great Hockey.

Now if they would just play Football like we do.

Steve N
http://www.skydivethepoint.com/


Jerry K.

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Feb 21, 2003, 4:57:29 PM2/21/03
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On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:58:19 +0100, "Jacques"
<ns...@NOSPAM.tdcadsl.dk> wrote:

>I believe you!
>
>The only problem is that you make a lot of enemies with that attitude and
>behaviour.

The same can be said for the opposite. Japan didn't think we could
keep them out of the Dutch East Indies if they could neutralize the
Pacific Fleet. It took a while but they were wrong. Germany believed
we were too isolationist to get involved with Europe and even if we
did, it would be to hold the Soviets in check. It took a while but
they were wrong.

>Some of the enemies you make have teeth, as I'm sure you have
>noticed!

Teeth are always present. Just a fact of life and Europe has been
bitten its fair share.

>
>Just in case you don't know this, Europe is the closest friend USA has in
>the world.

I would say that the opposite is also true-USA is the closest friend
Europe has in the world.

>When your closest friend disagrees with you, maybe you should
>reconsider what you are doing.
>

Exactly. But what has the US done? Up to this point, merely made
arguments (based on previous UN resolutions as compared with Iraq's
present response coupled with Iraq's history) for UN military action.
France, Germany, and Belgium have argued for delay and further
inspections in the hopes of preserving peace. Essentially a
Chamberlainesque, "Peace at Any Cost."

The US, Europe's best friend, disagrees with the "Wait for Improvement
Strategy." Maybe Europe should get all its ducks in a row and present
a unified yea or nay and if nothing has changed in the Iraqi posture
and the US policy, then perhaps Europe might listen to their best
friend and reconsider what they are doing?

...bsrp
...jlk

Mike Spurgeon

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Feb 21, 2003, 7:10:18 PM2/21/03
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Jacques wrote:

> Just in case you don't know this, Europe is the closest friend USA has in
> the world. When your closest friend disagrees with you, maybe you should
> reconsider what you are doing.


Just in case you don't know this, the USA is the closest friend Europe


has in
the world. When your closest friend disagrees with you, maybe you should
reconsider what you are doing.


Want to try again?

Peanut4040

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Feb 21, 2003, 8:09:15 PM2/21/03
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>
>Maybe, but the french outskydive the americans by miles... that what counts
>!
>
>PS: I'm not French :-)

im not a competititor anymore, since,, well, never mind.

Are you saying that FRENCH FROGS, are better skydivers than AMERICANS?

i'll let my "seconds" pick that slack up for me.

Or you saying the FRENCH FROGS, can out drink- out smoke- the AMERICANS,?

OH jeesee frenchy,,, throw up the white flag before you enter my camp.

Peanut4040

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Feb 21, 2003, 8:17:12 PM2/21/03
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>Just in case you don't know this, Europe is the closest friend USA has in
>the world. When your closest friend disagrees with you, maybe you should
>reconsider what you are doing.
>
>- Jacques

WELLLLL he has a point. When the rest of the european world says fuck "us".
WE have to respct that.

Then, again, when their neighbors decide to bomb our towers, hanging out at the
50th floor,, then We have to respect the guys that bomed us.

Okay,, gues what euros,, WE gonna BOMB YOUR NEIGHBORS TO THE TWILIGHT ZONE.

Then, 50 years from now, when the eifel tower gets bombs by terrorist,,, and
you want some help,, CALL CHINA

Peanut4040

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Feb 21, 2003, 8:20:53 PM2/21/03
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dOESE, anybody here see the humor but me?

Im sorry,, we are talking about the Frency HERE,, and i guess yoU have to have
been there to ENJOY IT.

THEY have good food.
OVERRRR T HEREEEE

Peanut4040

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Feb 21, 2003, 8:23:48 PM2/21/03
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LAUGHING HARD,

hey,, can we not ALL agree, dat FRANCE (frogs)SUCKS?

Peanut4040

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Feb 21, 2003, 8:27:59 PM2/21/03
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>
>Just in case you don't know this, the USA is the closest friend Europe
>has in
>the world. When your closest friend disagrees with you, maybe you should
>reconsider what you are doing.
>
>
>Want to try again?
>

nope,, rather throw bannas at you americans, heheheheheheh

Mr. MOM

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Feb 21, 2003, 8:45:16 PM2/21/03
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>I believe you!

Really???? If you really believed me, you wouldn't have been compelled to make
more assinine remarks, like stated below.

>The only problem is that you make a lot of enemies with that attitude and
>behaviour.

Pssssttttt.......hey Jaques.........ya can't please everyone all the time, and
only ignorant fools try. If my brutally honest remarks offend you or anyone
else to the point that you choose to become my enemy.....then you never had the
integrity to begin with.....to be anything other than my enemy.

Oh........and maybe you should consider your own words directed at us. If you
can't stomach others making snotty remarks about you and yours.......then you
should consider restraining from making your own.

Some of the enemies you make have teeth, as I'm sure you have
>noticed!

Yes.....some of our enemies DO have teeth. In fact, some of our enemies have
sharper teeth than others. However.......the one thing that sets the United
States of America, far above most of the rest of the world is......we don't
cower away from snarling, or biting dogs. We lick our wounds.....then we bite
back....only harder.

>Just in case you don't know this, Europe is the closest friend USA has in
>the world.

Europe????? You mean the whole continent, and every pissy little socialist
country in it???

When you say Europe......do you mean like the countries that we liberated
during WW 2 and helped get back on their "own" feet....just so they could screw
it up again for themselves by turning socialist, make deals with the devil, and
not only run and hide from potential threats, but try to block every effort of
the countries with enough intestinal fortitude to do what NEEDS to be done to
once again save your pathetic little effeminate asses?

Or......when you say Europe.....do you mean like the countries that fell under
the totalitarian scourge of soviet communism.....who have it branded into their
souls, the inhumanity communism and socialism perpetuates.....and now
"unconditionally" appreciate the United States of America for being the tip of
the spear that toppled the soviet empire, enough to proudly shout to the world
that they stand behind our actions without trepidation?

So........just exactly what Europe are you talking about?

When your closest friend disagrees with you, maybe you should
>reconsider what you are doing.

So far.........our closest friends have not disagreed with
us........therefore....there is nothing to reconsider.

Perhaps.......you should learn the "true" definition of friendship.

Peanut4040

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Feb 21, 2003, 9:25:26 PM2/21/03
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Whew, fer a minuter dar, i thought i had to come out of my drunken haze and
think intelligent foreign relations and make a good intellignet arugument wit
dis puppy.
%Thanks mom,, i dont agree with everykthing, but LLLL,, rite now, i coudlnt
said it better myself. I owe yew buddy.

Tom

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Feb 21, 2003, 9:52:09 PM2/21/03
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"Mr. MOM" <mom...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> So far.........our closest friends have not disagreed with
> us........therefore....there is nothing to reconsider.
>
> Perhaps.......you should learn the "true" definition of friendship.
>

Way to simplistic mr mom, but feel free to expand on the definition of
friendship.

Your closest friends * Goverments * maybe behind you, but all is not well at
home.

Take here in Australia as an example, Our Goverment is doing everything but
sing the American national anthem - the Australian public however is less
than impressed with the goings on.

Please don't interpret this as anti American, anti American Government
policy yes.

Tom


O Cuinn Mac an Ghabbann

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Feb 21, 2003, 10:38:10 PM2/21/03
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>Just in case you don't know this, Europe >is the closest friend USA has in
>the world. When your closest friend >disagrees with you, maybe you should
>>reconsider what you are doing.
>>
>>- Jacques

bwooooooohahahahahahahaha ;)P

~All living holds suffering
Misery stops when greed stops~

Peanut4040

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Feb 21, 2003, 10:58:52 PM2/21/03
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>
>this isn't quite true
>the Brits where asked to go into Ireland by the southern Irish to stop the
>getting wiped out by the northern Irish.

LAUGHING, hey,, we aint stupid in ameriky

Peanut4040

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Feb 21, 2003, 11:02:32 PM2/21/03
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laughing harder,, HAYYY,, yall been fighting with the Irish for 700 years,,,
and damnit,, why did yall send them to New yourk city --AND the SOUTHERN
united states.??

Iffin dey had "all "came south,, we would have two well developed countries by
this time.

Tom

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"Peanut4040" <peanu...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >>this isn't quite true
> >>the Brits where asked to go into Ireland by the southern Irish to stop
the
> >>getting wiped out by the northern Irish.
> >
> >LAUGHING, hey,, we aint stupid in ameriky
>
> laughing harder,, HAYYY,, yall been fighting with the Irish for 700
years,,,
> and damnit,, why did yall send them to New yourk city --AND the SOUTHERN
> united states.??

Ya gota see the irony in calling the place the United States ??
after a fugging big war the south gets conquered and they call it the United
states, LOL ya gota love that political humour.

Tom


Ofiddle

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Feb 22, 2003, 2:32:32 AM2/22/03
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>Take here in Australia as an example, Our Goverment is doing everything but
>sing the American national anthem - the Australian public however is less
>than impressed with the goings on.

My son and daughter in law were in Australia on 9/11. There were large
gatherings of people held in honor of the deceased from the terrorists attacks,
the people of Australia made two young Americans feel very welcome and safe.
These were a couple of kids who didn't know how, or when they would be able to
come home, and had limited income to live on while waiting it out in Australia.
I got the distinct impression that most Aussies were firmly behind the
Americans, when dealing with terrorists.

Tom

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"Ofiddle" <ofi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I got the distinct impression that most Aussies were firmly behind the
> Americans, when dealing with terrorists.

When dealing with terrorists I believe they are, we lost people also.
Tom


Peanut4040

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Feb 22, 2003, 9:23:02 AM2/22/03
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>> I'm Investing my 401K money in Germany.
>
>I thought your ex got that???
>
>Terry
>

She didnt get ALL the krugerands burried in Illinois... OPPS, there is that
krugerand word again.

Peanut4040

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Feb 22, 2003, 9:25:54 AM2/22/03
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>
>Ya gota see the irony in calling the place the United States ??
>after a fugging big war the south gets conquered and they call it the United
>states, LOL ya gota love that political humour.
>
>Tom

laughing, WELL,, after dey kicked our hinnys fighting this long war to keep us
in the UNITED states.,, they refused to let us back in for 5 years or more.
hehehehheheee

Airplayx4

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Feb 22, 2003, 11:00:56 AM2/22/03
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>Canada is our closest friend and they speak English like we do.
>Their friendly, brew outstanding Beer and play great Hockey.

Dont be so sure. They have been awful quite lately and if you look at a
population map they appear to be massing at our borders. Invasion?
Mark E.
"it seemed like a good idea at the time"

Tandmterry

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Feb 22, 2003, 1:04:02 PM2/22/03
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>From: peanu...@aol.com (Peanut4040)

>She didnt get ALL the krugerands burried in Illinois... OPPS, there is that
>krugerand word again.

Peanuts back on the boogie circuit?

Terry

john

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The thing is, having failed to catch Osama bin Laden (our "number one
priority" in late 2001), the Bush administration has transferred the
guilt to another nasty individual, but one who is easier to punish. Not
at all unlike the biblical concept of the sacrificial lamb who dies to
cleanse the sins of others. Trouble is, the sinners will still be
around afterwards.

john

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Feb 22, 2003, 1:14:39 PM2/22/03
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Airplayx4 wrote:
>
> >Canada is our closest friend and they speak English like we do.
> >Their friendly, brew outstanding Beer and play great Hockey.
>
> Dont be so sure. They have been awful quite lately and if you look at a
> population map they appear to be massing at our borders. Invasion?


The real enemy is here:

http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2003/01/13/tomo/index.html

Peanut4040

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Feb 22, 2003, 2:11:18 PM2/22/03
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>
>Peanuts back on the boogie circuit?
>
>Terry

Madia Gras is ALWAYS the season opener,,, UMMM,, i simply MUST go test the
Water.
Look out Baptist women,, HEREE I COMEEE AGAINNNN-

wood somebodyf bring his stupid sign back? Im getting tired of the blame fer
dat one.

Jacques

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Feb 22, 2003, 2:50:57 PM2/22/03
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Dear Mike,

I could not agree more! In fact, we (Europe in general) are considering this
matter very much.

Personally, I would love to get a few good solid reasons to take out Saddam.
Removing him will be good for all. Unfortunately such good reasons still
remain to be seen.

- Jacques


"Mike Spurgeon" <mi...@spurgeon.net> wrote in message
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Jacques

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Feb 22, 2003, 3:17:25 PM2/22/03
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I think the main issue is that the US wants this war, and the reasons are
not clear to the rest of the world.
We will happily help in taking Saddam out if we are presented with good
reasons.
Is Saddam a greater threat now than at the end of the last war? (No, maybe
even less.)
Has Saddam turned out to be a terrible person after the end of the last war?
(No, everyone knew he was a bastard at the time)

So why attack now? We could have had him at the last war, but Bush senior
decided not to finish the job. Europe helped alot in that war, but we were
not asked if it was ok to stop before we had complete victory.

- Jacques

"Jerry K." <sky...@pdq.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:58:19 +0100, "Jacques"
>

Jacques

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Yes, I recall! I also recall that the UK liberated my country (Denmark), and
that they have the class not to use that for a questionable purpose 58 years
later.

For how long does a people owe a debt? Apparently 50-60 years you seem to
think. Most of the people back then are now dead. What happend back then are
water under the bridge, we don't owe you anything!

Can the native americans still hold you responsible for the genocide? Can
the former slaves hold you responsible? Can England, Ireland and France hold
my ancestors, the vikings, responsible for plundering and raping at their
coastal regions?

- Jacques

"Bob" <Diablo...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:QUw5a.444$TR4....@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> Psst, hey Jacques, you don't recall who it was that liberated France do
you?
> It seems like France has forgotten about all of the US Servicemen that
died
> freeing them from Nazi Germany.
>
> --
> :-{>
> "Jacques" <ns...@NOSPAM.tdcadsl.dk> wrote in message
> news:3e5684d8$0$15886$edfa...@dread11.news.tele.dk...
> > I believe you!


> >
> > The only problem is that you make a lot of enemies with that attitude
and

> > behaviour. Some of the enemies you make have teeth, as I'm sure you have
> > noticed!
> >


> > Just in case you don't know this, Europe is the closest friend USA has
in

> > the world. When your closest friend disagrees with you, maybe you should


> > reconsider what you are doing.
> >

> > - Jacques


> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mr. MOM" <mom...@aol.com> wrote in message

> > news:20030220223736...@mb-cm.aol.com...
> > >
> > > Psssstttt........hey Jaques........here's a little secret for you.
Most
> of
> > us
> > > here in the U.S. really don't care what the rest of the fucked-up
world
> > thinks
> > > about us.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>


Dusty

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Feb 22, 2003, 4:53:52 PM2/22/03
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"Jacques" <ns...@NOSPAM.tdcadsl.dk> wrote in message

news:3e57eb9e$0$15852$edfa...@dread11.news.tele.dk...


> Yes, I recall! I also recall that the UK liberated my country (Denmark),
and
> that they have the class not to use that for a questionable purpose 58
years
> later.
>
> For how long does a people owe a debt? Apparently 50-60 years you seem to
> think. Most of the people back then are now dead. What happend back then
are
> water under the bridge, we don't owe you anything!

Oh?????? How have you repaid us Jacques. Was it when France wouldn't allow
us to fly over French airspace when we went after Quaddafi 20 years ago?
What has France ever done to repay the U.S. Jacques?


>
> Can the native americans still hold you responsible for the genocide?

Many of them still do.


Can
> the former slaves hold you responsible?

They are trying to Jacques. Ever hear of the movement led by Jesse Jackson
and other Black "Leaders" asking for reparations?


Can England, Ireland and France hold
> my ancestors, the vikings, responsible for plundering and raping at their
> coastal regions?

Depends Jacques. Muslims still hold the "Infidels" responsible for the
Crusades.
>

In answer to your previous post Jacques, George Bush Sr. did not decide
against going into Bagdad. It was the U.N. that pussied out after they saw
the "Highway of Death" when Iraqi Troops fled from Kuwait.
Starting to get an idea of why many here in the U.S. don't like France or
the U.N. Jacques?

Dusty


Jacques

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Feb 22, 2003, 5:20:26 PM2/22/03
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Yes, I know they are trying! My question is, do you accept that you owe them
something?
If not, then how can you expect France to?

- Jacques

"Dusty" <Dusty_Trale@nospam_earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Jacques

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Feb 22, 2003, 5:36:11 PM2/22/03
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That is certainly not my recollection of the events!

Consider this. The US has very little respect for the UN, so do you think it
sounds likely that Bush senior will accept stopping 2-3 days before complete
victory, just because the UN says so? Will the US accept not attacking Iraq
now, if the UN says no? I think not. After having gotten the initial
approval of the UN, USA was in complete control of the military events.

In Europe we were royally pissed with the US for stopping the war before the
coalition had won.

- Jacques


"Dusty" <Dusty_Trale@nospam_earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>

Tandmterry

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Feb 22, 2003, 5:38:54 PM2/22/03
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>From: "Dusty" Dusty_Trale@nospam_earthlink.net

Hi Dusty, how ya been? Haven't seen you in a while. Welcome back weve missed
ya.

Terry

john

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Feb 22, 2003, 6:56:44 PM2/22/03
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Dusty wrote:
>

> In answer to your previous post Jacques, George Bush Sr. did not decide
> against going into Bagdad. It was the U.N. that pussied out after they saw
> the "Highway of Death" when Iraqi Troops fled from Kuwait.


That is not how I recall it. Do you have a reliable source for that?

PS Jacques is not French.

David Ferree

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Feb 22, 2003, 7:02:11 PM2/22/03
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True, even the French are less fucked up pussies than he is.

Falko ten Bosch

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Feb 22, 2003, 7:14:01 PM2/22/03
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> >That is not how I recall it. Do you have a reliable source for that?
> >
> >PS Jacques is not French.
>
> True, even the French are less fucked up pussies than he is.

It's always the same with you guys...
every time someone nails you with some good argument,
you just give them crap and insult.

YOU ARE PATHETIC!
And the best part is: Deep down you KNOW it!

aaah that felt good...


Dusty

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Feb 22, 2003, 7:24:31 PM2/22/03
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"Jacques" <ns...@NOSPAM.tdcadsl.dk> wrote in message

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> That is certainly not my recollection of the events!
>
> Consider this. The US has very little respect for the UN, so do you think
it
> sounds likely that Bush senior will accept stopping 2-3 days before
complete
> victory, just because the UN says so?

Bush Sr. had no choice. The strategy for the war was formed by taking the
coalition into consideration. Any Military War Strategist will tell you that
when a war plan is developed, it's not a good idea to change. There was also
the possibility of an uprising within the Arab world, turning against us and
we weren't prepared for that with the positioning of our troops. The
original U.N. Resolution only authorized repelling Iraqi Armed Forces from
Kuwait.

It's very easy to cast stones with 20/20 hindsite. Bush abides by the U.N.
resolutions, you whine he should have defied them. If Bush defies the U.N.
resolutions and gone into Iraq, people whine like a baby he's trying to take
over the world. Sheeeeesh!!!!!

Dusty

Dusty

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Feb 22, 2003, 7:30:27 PM2/22/03
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"john" <jo...@kallend.net> wrote in message
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Oh, you mean like Salon Magazine?

> PS Jacques is not French.
>

Correct, maybe. Why does he go on to say he doesn't owe the U.S. anything?
Who ever said Denmark owes the U.S.? Remove what I said about him being
French (for now) and the rest still applies. Is Jacques a Danish name?

Dusty


Dusty

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Feb 22, 2003, 7:35:06 PM2/22/03
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"Falko ten Bosch" <falko_SPAMME...@tenbosch.net> wrote in message
news:b393pk$kas$07$1...@news.t-online.com...

> > >That is not how I recall it. Do you have a reliable source for that?
> > >
> > >PS Jacques is not French.
> >
> > True, even the French are less fucked up pussies than he is.
>
> It's always the same with you guys...
> every time someone nails you with some good argument,
> you just give them crap and insult.

What good argument are you talking about?

>
> YOU ARE PATHETIC!
> And the best part is: Deep down you KNOW it!
>
> aaah that felt good...
>

Please open a window or go outside when you do that.

Dusty


O Cuinn Mac an Ghabbann

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Feb 22, 2003, 8:11:44 PM2/22/03
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>Airplayx4 wrote:
>

>Canada is our closest friend and they speak English like we do.

WTF????? They don't spreking english lakk I do...I rukun if yer upper
midwestern the accent might be similar

>Their friendly,

I kin see yew ain't been chased by the NWMP fer whacking mean assed moose,
beaver & bear or shook down at the border cuz ya fit some cantankerous redneck
profile...yuh they profile, been doing it for years! ;)P



~All living holds suffering
Misery stops when greed stops~

Mr. Anonymous

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Feb 22, 2003, 8:26:31 PM2/22/03
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>Personally, I would love to get a few >good solid reasons to take out Saddam.
>Removing him will be good for all. >Unfortunately such good reasons still
>remain to be seen.
>
>- Jacques

yer joking right?
unfokkingbelievable ;> don coyote

Peanut4040

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Feb 22, 2003, 8:29:29 PM2/22/03
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>
>Yes, I know they are trying! My question is, do you accept that you owe them
>something?
>If not, then how can you expect France to?
>
>- Jacques

Somebody please give the "Hun a gun"

Dusty

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"Tandmterry" <tandm...@aol.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
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Thank-you Terry. Hope all is well with you.

Dusty


john

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Feb 22, 2003, 10:26:10 PM2/22/03
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Dusty wrote:
> "john" <jo...@kallend.net> wrote in message
> news:3E580E3C...@kallend.net...
>
>>
>>Dusty wrote:
>>
>>>In answer to your previous post Jacques, George Bush Sr. did not decide
>>>against going into Bagdad. It was the U.N. that pussied out after they
>>
> saw
>
>>>the "Highway of Death" when Iraqi Troops fled from Kuwait.
>>
>>
>>That is not how I recall it. Do you have a reliable source for that?
>
>
> Oh, you mean like Salon Magazine?
>


I'd prefer something not satirical, somthing like the NY Times or Wall
St. Journal.

Well, do you have a reliable source or not?

Dusty

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Feb 22, 2003, 10:31:16 PM2/22/03
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"john" <jo...@kallend.net> wrote in message
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No, do you?


john

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Feb 22, 2003, 10:40:44 PM2/22/03
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Dusty wrote:
> "john" <jo...@kallend.net> wrote in message
> news:3E583F52...@kallend.net...
>
>>
>>Dusty wrote:
>>
>>>"john" <jo...@kallend.net> wrote in message
>>>news:3E580E3C...@kallend.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Dusty wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In answer to your previous post Jacques, George Bush Sr. did not decide
>>>>>against going into Bagdad. It was the U.N. that pussied out after they
>>>>
>>>saw
>>>
>>>
>>>>>the "Highway of Death" when Iraqi Troops fled from Kuwait.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>That is not how I recall it. Do you have a reliable source for that?
>>>
>>>
>>>Oh, you mean like Salon Magazine?
>>>
>>
>>
>>I'd prefer something not satirical, somthing like the NY Times or Wall
>>St. Journal.
>>
>>Well, do you have a reliable source or not?
>>
>
> No, do you?
>
>

For what. I didn't claim anything, you did. All I said was that I
didn't recall - the NY Times doesn't generally report the state of my
memory.


Bob

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Feb 22, 2003, 10:45:58 PM2/22/03
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Hey Jack, the coalition did win. The goal of the coalition was the
liberation of Kuwait. The goal of the coalition was not the
overthrow of Hussein or the invasion of Iraq.

:-{>


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Peanut4040

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Feb 22, 2003, 11:00:15 PM2/22/03
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>It's always the same with you guys...
>every time someone nails you with some good argument,
>you just give them crap and insult.
>
>YOU ARE PATHETIC!
>And the best part is: Deep down you KNOW it!
>
>aaah that felt good...
>

OHHH jesseee,, My mamma insults "ME "her son better dan that--

Yew french must really be a bunch of pussies.

Falko ten Bosch

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Feb 22, 2003, 11:07:01 PM2/22/03
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> >It's always the same with you guys...
> >every time someone nails you with some good argument,
> >you just give them crap and insult.
> >
> >YOU ARE PATHETIC!
> >And the best part is: Deep down you KNOW it!
> >
> >aaah that felt good...
> >
>
> OHHH jesseee,, My mamma insults "ME "her son better dan that--

I can see why! Maybe she could do me a favor and add
some spanking, preferably with a leather belt?

> Yew french must really be a bunch of pussies.

*sigh* OK I noticed you're a little bit slow... so here goes again:
I'm a German.
Jacques is a Dane.
And you're a Dick.


JimBo

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Feb 22, 2003, 11:26:53 PM2/22/03
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>Subject: Re: FRANCE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!
>From: "Falko ten Bosch" falko_SPAMME...@tenbosch.net

>
>> Yew french must really be a bunch of pussies.
>
>*sigh* OK I noticed you're a little bit slow... so here goes again:
>I'm a German.
>Jacques is a Dane.
>And you're a Dick.

As obviously are you.
You belabor a point to death.
Do you skydive or just troll the newsgroup?

jim
D-10154
All around nice guy.
Man small... why fall ? Skies call... thats all.

Dusty

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"john" <jo...@kallend.net> wrote in message
news:3E5842BC...@kallend.net...
Then I'd suggest the next time you have a problem with something I say, you
remember these 2 rules.

1. Everything I say on this NG can be construed my opinion.

2. If you challenge my opinion, then YOU better have resources to back up
your disagreement.

3. I may argue with you just because I am enjoying it.

4. If these terms are not acceptable to you I would prefer you kill file me.

Peace and Love
Dusty

Peanut4040

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Feb 22, 2003, 11:30:35 PM2/22/03
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>> OHHH jesseee,, My mamma insults "ME "her son better dan that--
>
>I can see why! Maybe she could do me a favor and add
>some spanking, preferably with a leather belt?

In de inmortal words of scotty carbone--
Yer making me wet--

>*sigh* OK I noticed you're a little bit slow... so here goes again:
>I'm a German.
>Jacques is a Dane.
>And you're a Dick.

Im Glad at least ONE of us can take care of a real woman.

Peanut sings,, "i've got a SLOWWW hannndddd"


JimBo

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>Subject: Re: FRANCE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!
>From: "Dusty" Dusty_Trale@nospam_earthlink.net
>Date: 2/22/2003 8:29 PM Pacific

>Subject: Re: FRANCE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!
>From: "Dusty" Dusty_Trale@nospam_earthlink.net
>Date: 2/22/2003 8:29 PM Pacific

> I say, you
>remember these 2 rules.

>1. Everything
>2. If you challenge
>3. I may argue
>4. If these terms

Uh Dusty ...............

Rhonda Lea Kirk

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Feb 22, 2003, 11:46:54 PM2/22/03
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Rumor has it that Dusty said:

>> For what. I didn't claim anything, you did. All I said was that I
>> didn't recall - the NY Times doesn't generally report the state of my
>> memory.
>>
> Then I'd suggest the next time you have a problem with something I
> say, you remember these 2 rules.
>
> 1. Everything I say on this NG can be construed my opinion.

Yeah, but then there's PPOR: "provide proof or retract." If you state
something as a fact and fail to back it up, you look like a twit.

> 2. If you challenge my opinion, then YOU better have resources to
> back up your disagreement.

Well, that's not how it works, unless of course you don't care if you
look like a twit.

> 3. I may argue with you just because I am enjoying it.

It's not an argument if you refuse to adhere to the accepted rules of
debate. It's twit-speak.

> 4. If these terms are not acceptable to you I would prefer you kill
> file me.

It's good you have r.s, Dusty, because you wouldn't last elsewhere on
usenet for 5 seconds.

I'm not John, but I think your terms are really, really stupid. You
really look like a twit.

<plonk>

rl

bry...@hotmail.com

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Feb 23, 2003, 1:14:32 AM2/23/03
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well whatever happens, if it was upto the public in france, england,
usa and all the rest, we would'nt be going to war, it aint the french
its the goverments, besides when have you ever known the french to be
likable
Brycey

ynotssor

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Feb 23, 2003, 1:23:20 AM2/23/03
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"Dusty" <Dusty_Trale@nospam_earthlink.net> wrote in message news:QjS5a.705$vU3....@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...

[...]


> In answer to your previous post Jacques, George Bush Sr. did not decide
> against going into Bagdad. It was the U.N. that pussied out after they saw
> the "Highway of Death" when Iraqi Troops fled from Kuwait.

[...]


Hmmm, Colin Powell states on page 513 in his 1995 book "My American Journey"
that his "... role in the President's decision to end the war when and how he did [It]
is an accountability I carry with pride and without apology."

Doesn't sound like the U.N. had any involvement in the matter, at least from his
point of view. But what the hell does he know? He was only the General.


tony


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Dusty

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"JimBo" <sb...@aol.comnooospam> wrote in message
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Damn, shouldn't drink and type. That's T.W.I.
he he

Dusty


Dusty

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"Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhonda...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Thank-you for kill filing me. You are a twit with no sense of humor. I'm
sure most people EXCEPT a twit like you understood I was joking. Or at least
were giving me the benefit of the doubt before becoming a little BITCH who
saw red meat an attacked it. So guess who looks like the TWIT now.

Dusty


Mr. Anonymous

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Feb 23, 2003, 8:02:06 AM2/23/03
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>It's always the same with you guys...
>every time someone nails you with >some good argument,
>>you just give them crap and insult.

apparently never been exposed to Skydiver politic's eh Jakcoors?
unfokkingbelievable ;> don coyote

Sharpfive

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Feb 23, 2003, 8:54:03 AM2/23/03
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France won't take any action unless Iraq invades Poland, then they'll come
to their senses.


Winsor Naugler III

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Feb 23, 2003, 9:02:36 AM2/23/03
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<bry...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6mpg5v00l8ctkmrk8...@4ax.com...
The whole time I lived there.

The only people I've known to get a hard time in France are those who give
Americans a well-deserved bad name.

When one insists on behaving like an asshole, they shouldn't be surprised -
or take particular offense - if they are treated like an asshole. It is
fitting and proper.


Blue skies,

Winsor


D3331

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Feb 23, 2003, 9:13:33 AM2/23/03
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What is the origin of the expression "French Kiss?"

Lets discuss.

Steve N

bry...@hotmail.com

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Feb 23, 2003, 10:31:30 AM2/23/03
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anyway i thought this was a skydiving group!!!

JimBo

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Feb 23, 2003, 10:38:09 AM2/23/03
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>Subject: Re: FRANCE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!
>From: bry...@hotmail.com

>anyway i thought this was a skydiving group!!!

Its a "skydivers" group.
If all we talked about was skydiving, it would get boring pretty fast.

David Ferree

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Feb 23, 2003, 12:59:46 PM2/23/03
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On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 01:14:01 +0100, "Falko ten Bosch"
<falko_SPAMME...@tenbosch.net> wrote:

>> >That is not how I recall it. Do you have a reliable source for that?
>> >

>> >PS Jacques is not French.
>>
>> True, even the French are less fucked up pussies than he is.


>
>It's always the same with you guys...
>every time someone nails you with some good argument,
>you just give them crap and insult.
>

>YOU ARE PATHETIC!
>And the best part is: Deep down you KNOW it!
>
>aaah that felt good...

Whatever makes you feel good, "Falko." LOL

Maybe next you could surrender to someone and that would make you feel
good too. Just pick a country, any country. Pussy.

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