You know you're a skydiver when...
Charles Thomas
Some of these are funny... most of them are just plain true.
YOU KNOW YOU'RE A SKYDIVER WHEN...
* BOC goes from meaning "Blue Oyster Cult" to meaning "Bottom of
Container".
* You're making love to your partner and they whisper "I've never done
this before" and you yell out "THAT'S a case of beer!".
* On cloudy/windy days you go to the drop zone anyway and bitch about the
weather.
* On cloudy/windy days you pull out your parachute and pack it just to
say that you've done something skydiving-related.
* You "dirt-dive", "post-dive" and critique your love-making sessions.
* The smell of bug spray makes you think of skydiving.
* Whenever a passenger in a fast-moving car, you stick your head out the
window and yell "FIVE LEFT" to the driver.
* Whenever leaving an establishment you yell "DOOR" to all the patrons
before opening the door.
* You don't own any clothing that you didn't get at a boogie.
* Every single one of your whuffo friends is to the point of wanting to
kill you every time you mention skydiving.
* You think of Jack Jeffries, Tamara Koyn and Norm Kent as "famous".
* You analyze every flag you see in terms of it's too windy/not too windy
to jump.
* You analyze every flag you see in terms of which direction you'd face
to land.
* It's a dark sky with low clouds and you're thinking "Hop -n- Pops!".
* It's so windy that trees are bending over and you're thinking "Cross
country!".
* You allow a maximum 55 seconds of "working time" when making love.
* You can't think of a good reason to pick up your mail for three weeks
after your issues of "Skydiving" and "Parachutist" arrive.
* You feel naked without at least one jump ticket in your wallet.
* You sign your checks with your name and USPA number.
* You know to the tenth of a mile how far it is from your driveway to the
drop zone's driveway.
* Every time someone's beeper goes off you look at your watch to see if
it's break-off altitude.
* You don't remember your anniversary or your mother's birthday, but you
know down to the second how much accumulated freefall time you have.
* You analyze sessions of love-making in terms of "points turned".
* You refer to your recent break-up as an "intentional cut-away".
Wendy Faulkner
Charles Thomas <Char...@macc.wisc.edu> wrote:
>OK. I whipped these together from my own experience this week.
>
>Some of these are funny... most of them are just plain true.
>
>YOU KNOW YOU'RE A SKYDIVER WHEN...
>
"Talon" "Racer" .....
You walk everywhere watching the sky.
You show up at the dz even on the worst-weather days because at least
you can sit around drinking beer.
You can't mention the word "first" in casual conversation, at work, or
ever in reference to yourself.
You have your paycheck direct-deposited into the dz account.
You plan your vacations around skydiving boogies.
On a full moon night, you look up and think "Night jumps!"
You know the dz phone number while you don't even know your own.
Anytime you have sex with someone for the first time you think "Beer!"
You've kissed more people in freefall than you have on the ground.
Your whuffo friends just don't understand why you would want to "do" a
horny gorilla.
You drive a beaten-up car because you really need that new canopy more.
You have no idea what is happening on the weekends in your town.
You have more pairs of Tevas than you do sneakers.
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=- Wendy Faulkner =-
=- faul...@eco.utexas.edu =- The sky is not the limit,
=- Wake Forest Demon Deacon =- The ground is! Skydive!
PJ Perdue
WF> Organization: University of Texas Economics Dept., Austin
writes:
WF> I love em! And some more....
>YOU KNOW YOU'RE A SKYDIVER WHEN...
_Hilarious!_ How 'bout...
You catch yourself flaking the bed instead of making it
The term "PC" makes you think of pilot chutes, not personal computers
You name your dog "Toggles"
You wonder what whuffos _DO_ with themselves on gorgeous summer weekends
You look at your VCR and think, "Hmm, that's gotta be worth a few jumps."
You forget to lower your voice when talking to your jumper friends in
a restaurant about the weekend's lost dildos, loose legstraps and lack
of penetration
- PJ
Barry Brumitt
>
> WF> From: faul...@eco.utexas.edu (Wendy Faulkner)
> WF> Organization: University of Texas Economics Dept., Austin
> writes:
>
> WF> I love em! And some more....
> >YOU KNOW YOU'RE A SKYDIVER WHEN...
>
>
> You name your dog "Toggles"
>
The cats at our DZ are swoop, toggle, and flare.
> You wonder what whuffos _DO_ with themselves on gorgeous summer weekends
>
I often wonder this... what do people *do* on weekends? I'm generally bored
silly if I'm not jumpin'! :)
Barry
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Tom Cahill
You might be a Skydiver if......
You refer to Weddings, Funerals, Birthdays, etc. as 'Relative Work'
You wish for wind, rain, snow, earthquakes, locusts, tornados, etc. on
days you have to work or have other 'Relative Work' to do.
You can't imagine how anyone can go on vacation without a parachute.
Your rig costs more than your trailer.
You love the smell of 'Jet A' in the morning!
Loosing your job is a reason for celebration!
Your 'work' clothes have grippers.
You ware a Skydiving T-shirt and bring a six pack to a job interview.
You try to convince the State Trooper that your "D" license allows you to
do ANYTHING!
Your log book is thicker than any book you've ever read.
TC (TANDEM-I,I-'95,D-14553)
"PARACHUTES ARE THE BEST WAY, SO FAR, TO RETURN TO EARTH SAFELY AFTER
FREEFALL."
Dennis R. Mercer
: OK. I whipped these together from my own experience this week.
: Some of these are funny... most of them are just plain true.
: YOU KNOW YOU'RE A SKYDIVER WHEN...
These are excellent! I love it! Got anymore?
Dennis
kevin_o'connell
You still call them AOD's
You know the rules for SCS and SCR.
You HAVE and SCS AND and SCR #.
You call it "Freak Flying" instead of "Sit Fly" and can do it without a
special jump suit.'
You still call it the "Freak Brothers" convention.
You remember when safety meetings weren't.
You can't tell the difference between BOC and a "pull out" except you don't get
to pull your own pin.
You remember when turf surfing was something students did, not hot dogs.
You think Pink is a stupid gear color for guys.
You KNOW what else to do on a weekend.
You think they are ALL "fun" jumps.
You think a collapsable pilot chute is something bad.
You think diapers go on mains.
You don't call a jump from 9,500 a "cloud base" jump.
When "pro" packing is something your rigger does.
When paying someone to pack your main is a waste of perfectly good jumping money.
When you lament the loss of the need to "stand tension" cause it gave your girl
friend something to do.
You know who Lew Sanborn is and can spell his first name.
Blue Skies!
(How could I be old at 35?)
Kevin O'Connell
D12086
Robert Church
>It looks like we know ourselves pretty well.....here's a few more:
>
>You might be a Skydiver if......
>
You stop by the New River Bridge and take a look. All the others are
saying 'damn, look how high it is' and you're saying 'damn, look how low it
is'.
Bob Church
McGrath Glenda
>
> ...You know you're an (old) skydiver when...
>
>
> Blue Skies!
> (How could I be old at 35?)
Boy am I glad you added the last line !!! I was beginning to wonder
how I could be old at 45 AND only involved in Skydiving for 10 years
and I still knew all the items you listed
George Wood
>
>In article <3lf7nc$17...@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> SFP...@prodigy.com (Tom Cahill) writes:
>>It looks like we know ourselves pretty well.....here's a few more:
>>
>>You might be a Skydiver if......
>>
and he jumps at XXX. You think of company sponsorship for a demo team.
He gets the job!
You bore the pants off everybody by constantly talking about stable
spread positions (!)
You know and act superior because you 'have tasted flight'.
Danny A. Rossi
How do you think I feel? You have 17 years on me and I have two more
years of jumping than you.
How can I be an old timer at 28? It just seems like yesterday that I was
the kid at the drop zone.
Dan Rossi U.S.P.A B-#14030
Flare when you
dr...@andrew.cmu.edu hear the crickets
Robert Church
>
>You don't call a jump from 9,500 a "cloud base" jump.
No shit!!!! I met some guys in Quincy and we jumped together. Real nice guys,
but they wouldn't do RW from the helicopter because it "only" went to 5500.
>
>When "pro" packing is something your rigger does.
I'd been away a few years and a friend wanted to show me how to 'pro pack'.
I watched and then it hit me, 'oh, you mean trash pack'. He wasn't amused.
I still roll pack, even though I've got a 9 cell robo-z. Best openings of
any technique, and you can pack in less than five minutes.
Bob Church
Robert Church
>
>You know and act superior because you 'have tasted flight'.
>
Well, that's to be expected.
Bob Church
Kent Walker
--
Kent Walker wal...@netcom.com wal...@ssvax1.ssd.loral.com
Randy Bain
Your excuse for not making to formation is "It would have given me
my(SCR,SCS, etc) and I couldn't afford to buy beer.
Steve Coleman
Any time a plane flies overhead, you look up and think "Yeah, that's high
enough!"
Steve
Brenton Faulkner Milner
>
Your six year old son can teach the first jump course.
You put your arms down and back in a full track when running
down stairs.
You estimate your chances of pulling off a hard front riser
turn when looking out any window above four stories.
When you wake up with a mean hangover in a tent, the first
thing you check is your rig. Then the person sleeping next to
you.
You find yourself mentally telling the pilot when to flare
while landing on a commercial flight.
Your christmas tree has more skydivers on it that an Otter can
carry.
Your thinking about taking all the but the driver's seats out
of your car.
Everytime you get pulled over for speeding you tell the cop you
just made your first skydive in the hopes that he will let you
go.
Your favorite movie in the world is just over sixty seconds
long.
Your whuffo friends only call if the weather man says the
weekend will be shitty.
Blue Skies, Dark Beer
Brent
Jerry Sobieski
You know what a "jesus string" is.
You remember when you actually wanted to buy a Paraflite main.
You catch yourself using the term "snoot" every once in a while.
Camera suits were used for RW.
Waivers were on a 3"x5" index card...along with the rest of your info.
Competition judges actually had to stand outside.
You remember when a 5-cell canopy was the cat's meow.
You can remember when $7.00 to 12,000 ft was highway robbery.
You remember deliberately doing hook turns downwind into the ground
to stomp a disk.
you remember why the pea gravel pitt was invented.
You remember swearing never to remove *any* padding off of a harness.
Jerry "How could I be old at 38?" Sobieski
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UUCP: uunet!mimsy!jerrys University of Maryland
Phone: (301)405-6735 Institute for Advanced Computer Studies
College Park, Md 20742
John Rich
John Rich D7377
Neville Delap
On 4 Apr 1995, Xiaojiang Gao wrote:
> >>>YOU KNOW YOU'RE A SKYDIVER WHEN...
> >Any time a plane flies overhead, you look up and think "Yeah, that's high
> >enough!"
>
> To add to that, any time you see a plane no matter it is flying or on the
> ground you'll ask yourself whether it is jumpable and how to jump it!
>
> Bruce
And if it is not jumpable you'll consider it a complete waste of space!
Barry Brumitt
>
> Can someone compile and repost the first round of messages...some of these were really good and I didn't save them to disk
>
> Daren
>
Reminder to all: All rec.skydiving messages are stored at the rec.skydiving
ftp site... which you can read about in the FAQ...
The FAQ: It's not just for whuffos anymore.
Xiaojiang Gao
>>>YOU KNOW YOU'RE A SKYDIVER WHEN...
>
>Any time a plane flies overhead, you look up and think "Yeah, that's high
>enough!"
>
Bill Von Novak
>In article <9504031123591.DL...@delphi.com> stevec...@delphi.com (Steve Coleman) writes:
>>YOU KNOW YOU'RE A SKYDIVER WHEN...
>>
>>Any time a plane flies overhead, you look up and think "Yeah, that's high
>>enough!"
and whenever you're at an outdoor wedding, party or concert, you
think to yourself "yeah, i could land here, just sink it in right by the
stage there . . ."
-bill von novak D16479 AFF/SL JM95
dar...@clark.net
DZvagaBON
>think to yourself "yeah, i could land here, just sink it in right by the
>stage there . . ."
>-bill von novak D16479 AFF/SL JM95
In hopes of swooping the bride off her feet?
Bon
D3331
>You still call them ASOs.
Area Safety Officers, they organized "safety meetings".
>You know what a "jesus string" is.
550 cord attached to your reserve ripcord and sewn to your
reserve container top flap. It would pull open your reserve
container if it remained closed.
>You remember when you actually wanted to buy a Paraflite main.
Bought a Strato Stare in 1975 and a Cruselite in 1982.
Jumped the Cruselite until 1989. All PD equipped now.
>You catch yourself using the term "snoot" every once in a while.
"snoot" refers to Women. Originated by the ten man team
"Slots are for tots" from DeLand. Later changed to "Slots".
They all came from Miami where the team was called H A S H.
For "High Altitude Stare Habit".
>Camera suits were used for RW.
Perfect 180 degree turns in place took skill in those suits.
>Waivers were on a 3"x5" index card...along with the rest of your
>info.
You could write in ten jumps on one page of your log book.
Now you only have room for two jumps on a page but you can
write a long story.
>Competition judges actually had to stand outside.
And they attended "safety meetings" with the RW competitors.
>You remember when a 5-cell canopy was the cat's meow.
Still have my garage manufactured Paramount 5-cell.
>You can remember when $7.00 to 12,000 ft was highway robbery.
In Xenia Ohio it was $5.00 for the Staff, and we still complained.
>You remember deliberately doing hook turns downwind into the
>ground to stomp a disk.
With a PC. And I don't mean Pilot Chute!
>you remember why the pea gravel pitt was invented.
Had something to do with absorbing impact from downwind
accuracy landings.
>You remember swearing never to remove *any* padding off of a
>harness.
What for?
Warm Blue Skies,
Steve Noonan scs-567
**************************************************************
..."life and love are much too important
... to be taken seriously"...
**************************************************************
...."These are the good old days"....
Carley Simon
**************************************************************
BRENT J FINLEY
:Can someone compile and repost the first round of messages...some
Travis Russell
> Blue Skies! (How
> could I be old
>
> Kevin O'Connell
> D12086
>
time I was at the DZ was probably 12 years ago, so I can really relate to what
you posted. In fact, my brother-in-law flew a Para-Commander, and I thought
that was hot-shit back when.........
Travis Russell
George W. Rogero
back fixed than on the jumping that screwed it up.
You made your first jump at Orange.
Your first Hot rig was a 7TU
Ballisticus Felinus
<fse...@mercury.interpath.net> wrote:
>Which reminds me...
>Sitting in the closet beside the long-line green and gold checkerboard PC
>is a Strato-Star with rings and rope. Rings and Rope?? Ummm, nice soft and
>reliable openings as opposed to that nasty slider that only worked about
>half the time. (g)
>
>--
>
I wouldn't be able to talk you into selling that old 'Star, eh?
I would love to have one in my collection.
Bob
--
"What's in my main container is really none of your business!"
==
bob...@starbase.neosoft.com
===========================
Robert Bonitz
Oh, ma gawd, I qualify on all three counts!
Ben Daniels
>D4637 - Retired, but thinking about it.
Speaking of "one upping" on being old .. I remember one night
standing out in the parking lot at the Rumbleseat which was a
bar in Hermosa Beach that we used to go to every Wednesday night.
We were looking at this guy's new reserve which was our code word
for a safety meeting and somebeody allowed as how they could
remember when (some 60's canopy) came out.
Someone else remembered something earlier. I chimed in with the PC.
Someone remembered the TU .. the blank gore .. sleeves even ..
After a moment Don Moses said with no particular emphasis in his voice:
"Oh, I remember when nylon parachutes came out."
We all felt much safer after that.
:-) :-) Skratch
------
PS: Hey Fred "Retired, but thinking about it" .. come on out ..
The air's nice. I just started up again a year or two ago. It's nice
just making a few jumps on the weekend.
Not doing anything in particular.
Just skydiving .. Skr
----------------
bdan...@csn.org
RonD1120
Ron Schott
D1120, C1847, B2809
RonD1120
fse...@mercury.interpath.net
: >is a Strato-Star with rings and rope. Rings and Rope?? Ummm, nice soft
: >about half the time. (g)
: I wouldn't be able to talk you into selling that old 'Star, eh?
: I would love to have one in my collection.
Howdy Bob,
Thanks for the offer, but it was my first square... Shoot, the
container even has "state-of-the-art" Rod Rebel quick releases. (even Don
Yarling remembers those, heehee)
Regards,
--
BRENT J FINLEY
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From: Stan=Shepherd%Design=Basis%411_1
Subject: re: Re: You know you're an (old) skydiver when...
To: bfinley
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Brent-
You know you're an (old) skydiver when most of your old log book entries read
"Hit hard", "Hard landing" or "used ripstop tape" and the entry for RESERVE
CHUTE read "28' piloted".
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Robert Church
STAND UP LANDING!!!.
Bob Church
Christopher Blackwell
> Subject: re: You know you're an (old) skydiver when...
> You can recall using "pi" symbol with a number in your log book.
>
> Ron Schott
> D1120, C1847, B2809
What did the 'pi' stand for?
Blue Skies from a (new) skydiver...
-----------------------------------------------------
Chris B. Christopher W. Blackwell
A-17336 Dept. of Classics, Duke University
Durham, NC 27708-0103
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RobertC539
Bob D-9437
Kathryn Graham
Kate
RobertC539
Remember when funnels weren't thought of as dangerous?
Bob C. D-9437
RonD1120
*
*Blue Skies from a (new) skydiver...
The "pi" symbol indicated a stand up landing. When I started jumping they
recommended a "B" license before attempting them.
Celebrating the 31st anniversary of my first airshow performance at the
Sun 'n Fun EAA Fly-In, Lakeland, FL. I am pleased and honored to support
this year's featured performers, Ann Daley and Wes Liu, the Star Spangled
Flyers, from NH, with the world's largest U.S. flag (40X60). Also
returning this year, Ray "Buzz" Arceneaux, Barry Chase, Chad Hunt, Steve
and Nicole Dunham.
Ron Schott
D1120
Ballisticus Felinus
<qx0...@inet.d48.lilly.com> wrote:
>
>Yikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>I was away from the sport for ~ 6 years.
>These new ZP canopy thingies are pretty cool.
>
>kleggo D-8292
Yeah...but they still can't turn as tight as my Piglet II!
Jim Milstead
My first 7TU had a hot eliptical cut.. It sizzled... Also tried out an
"anti-squib line" ... Who knows what that is..????
Jim Milstead
We're in Florida. jmil...@spd.dsccc.com
-- Vice President Dan Quayle explaining why he DSC Communications Corp
had just purchased four peaches (and no citrus Plano, Tx. 75075
fruits -- for which Florida is famous)
qx0...@inet.d48.lilly.com
>> You can recall using "pi" symbol with a number in your log book.
>>
>
>
> Chris B.
pi in our "parachuting log book", blue cover, 10 jumps per page, meant
stand up landing.
Tom Pawelkiewicz
>From: rus...@trussell.pdial.interpath.net (Travis Russell)
>Subject: Re: You know you're an (old) skydiver when...
>Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 20:18:03 +0000
>Travis Russell
Do not make fun of the P.C's. They are a great and time honoured parachutes.
I say that they are great because i have not jumped any thing else.
I am a student at Parachute School of Toronto and we still use the P.Cs for
student jumpers. I can't wait for my own rig.
I'll miss the P.C.
Blue skies under round canopies
FREEFALL
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tom Pawelkiewicz
Robert Church
>
>My first 7TU had a hot eliptical cut.. It sizzled... Also tried out an
>"anti-squib line" ... Who knows what that is..????
>
Didn't the elastic line up the center make it hard to pack?
Bob Church
William C. Digiacomo
You get confused about which is your current logbook!
You talk about having to cross-port your old canopy and someone
says to you "I thought squares were always cross-ported?"
Your license numbers ALL have less than 3 digits.
You start worying about having to join POPS.
You know what P.O.P.S. means.
.. Are any of there getting close???
Blue Skies to you and yours... DJ :)
4 years to POPS and counting!
John2walkr
Are you the one that publishes the Christian jump newsletter? How do
I get one and how much etc. Please let me know.
Blue Skies and Soft Landings!
Johnny
walter mitchell
be jumping a PD Sabre. I do realize however that those of you
pioneering those stupid square things deserve a lot of respect. If it
wasn't for all the older skydivers the new guys like me would be way
behind. In 250 jumps I have never had a round canopy in my container
and I have only seen three (In flight) since I started jumping.
Thanks
Eternal Blue Skies
Mitch
C-24458
Skydive Perris!!
Charles Thomas
Pawelkiewicz, TPAW...@ARTSCOURSE.watstar.uwaterloo.ca writes:
>Do not make fun of the P.C's. They are a great and time honoured
parachutes.
>I say that they are great because i have not jumped any thing else.
>I am a student at Parachute School of Toronto and we still use the P.Cs
for
>student jumpers. I can't wait for my own rig.
>I'll miss the P.C.
This strikes me vaguely like someone saying how great a car the Ford
Pinto is when a Ford Pinto is all they've ever driven.
:-)
Charles Thomas
A-19548
Rule #1: Never sweat the little stuff.
Rule #2: It's all little stuff.
Paul Fries
>I'd been away a few years and a friend wanted to show me how to 'pro pack'.
>I watched and then it hit me, 'oh, you mean trash pack'. He wasn't amused.
>I still roll pack, even though I've got a 9 cell robo-z. Best openings of
>any technique, and you can pack in less than five minutes.
Just for perspective...
I used to roll pack in my 7 cell days.
After a hiatus, I returned to the sport needing a more appropriately
sized main, and got a large PD 9 cell.
I roll packed it for about 75 jumps before the lines started breaking.
We sent it back to PD, who gave me a great price on a reline job and
a stern warning that roll packing was a no-no for their canopies.
Shortly thereafter, I heard that there was now an addendum to the
packing instructions that come with new PD canopies that under no
circumstances should you roll pack a PD canopy. Later, when I bought
a Sabre, it did, in fact, include such a warning.
The moral of the story...
I loved to roll pack. It was quick. It was easy.
But it isn't for every canopy anymore.
Paul Fries
p...@alantec.com
San Jose, CA
Jim Milstead
Yep, especially without crown lines...
>Bob Church
Gawd Bob, you are old... :-) What did Moses jump???
How long did it take you to stop calling them pig rigs???
Do you still know how to pack a Delta II, T-Bow?
Remember about suicide knots?
And, I thought they were called chicken strings...
Jim Milstead
I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward jmil...@spd.dsccc.com
more freedom and democracy - but that could change. DSC Communications Corp
-- Vice President Dan Quayle, 5/22/89 Plano, Tx. 75075
DZvagaBON
>I loved to roll pack. It was quick. It was easy.
I know what flat packing is....I know what pro-packing(trash packing)
is.....
....What is a roll pack?
Bonnie
RobertC539
We used to also call them "Last Hope Ropes".
Gary Guthrie
writes:
Get Mad John at Byron to show you! He used to (maybe still does) do a
really good rollpack. It's basically flaking the canopy out on the
side just like a flat-pack (side-pack, stack-pack, factory pack....I've
heard all of these used!). Then the nose is rolled to about the middle
of the chord (past the A and B lines) and the tail is rolled to the
middle where they meet. Then it's folded similarly to a flat-pack into
the bag. Something like that anyway...I'm probably oversimplifying.
Seems to work, but those lines sure look twisted!
Blue Skies....Gary
Charlotte Van Rooyen
Lottie
C10564
Barry Chase D9545/AFF I'95/Tandem Instructor
>I know what flat packing is....I know what pro-packing(trash packing)
>is.....
Don't confuse pro-packing with a trash-pack, they are different. I seem
to recall that a trash pack (in it's truest form) used no bag OR line stows.
The lines were just looped into the container, and the canopy mashed into the
flaps. There were variations that included using a diaper (no, not on me, the
canopy!) and other devices.
I seem to recall that John Brasher had a deployment device that used a
pin to keep the skirt of the canopy closed. Am I right john?
>....What is a roll pack?
I used to roll pack my Cruisair. It starts out like a flat pack, but
instead of stacking the canopy onto the nose and splitting the tail, you'd roll
the 'A' line to the 'B' lines, then flop over the extending canopy toward the
center, and do the same at the tail end with the 'D' lines to the 'C' lines and
flop.
Then I put the nose half on the tail half, s-fold and bag. Looked likr
it'd never work, but actually always gave me a very nice opening.
<<<<<P L E A S E >>>>
DO NOT TAKE THIS AS A PACKING LESSON!!!!
If anyone would like to learn how to roll pack, find someone at your DZ
who is experienced in the technique (preferably a rigger), and get some
supervised training.
I am working out of memory from about 10 years ago, and I have enough
trouble rmembering what I had for lunch!
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Barry Chase D9545/AFF I'95/Tandem Instructor
You know when you're getting old when it takes you longer to gear
up than it does to jump!
Add in that the idea of PAYING for a packer starts to sound real
good, too!
Barry Brumitt
>
> >I loved to roll pack. It was quick. It was easy.
>
> I know what flat packing is....I know what pro-packing(trash packing)
> is.....
>
> ....What is a roll pack?
>
Scary.
Flake as for a flat pack.
Stow Brakes
Fold A's on B's.
Fold Steering Lines on D's
Fold D/Steer to C's
Pull slider up and lay on unfolded part of canopy
Flip A/B Outside Fold to middle (ie. over slider)
Flip Steer/D/C's over A/B fold (ie. also over slider)
Stack and shove in bag.
Or something damn close to this... scaryscary scary... at least it
looks scary to me... some people swear by it... it's what Chris G
recommended for packing Ariels a few years ago... At least I think it
was him...
Barry
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DZvagaBON
<<<<<P L E A S E >>>>
DO NOT TAKE THIS AS A PACKING LESSON!!!!
Please Barry....give me a little credit! I can use judgement. I wouldn't
just go jump off a cliff 'cause I SAW IT ON THE
NET......well.....nevermind!
Bon
DZvagaBON
>You know when you're getting old when it takes you longer to gear
>up than it does to jump!
I'm sorry to hear it takes so long for you to get you gear up
Barry.....how long does the jump last? ;)
Bonnie
p.s. I think you must have left this one open just for me!
Andy Witterick
>
> Would that have been your piglet main or reserve? *8->
>
You know the difference between a piglet, a PC and a Pap :-)
Andy
Bob Church
Pro-
Packs opened hard. I went back to roll packing. The openings are a
little
"bumpy", but soft. The flat packs were giving me a very sore neck. It's
been
nearly two years now and still no burns or problems.
Bob Church
John Wardlaw
Laser 8 since there is no center cell. Is anybody else out there jumping
an eight cell main?
DawgDoc,
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Barry Chase D9545/AFF I'95/Tandem Instructor
>
>Barry wrote:
>>You know when you're getting old when it takes you longer to gear
>>up than it does to jump!
>
>I'm sorry to hear it takes so long for you to get you gear up
>Barry.....how long does the jump last? ;)
The jump is the same, it's the gearing that seems to be more
intricate lately!
>p.s. I think you must have left this one open just for me!
Perhaps, is that a bad thing? *8->
Barry Chase D9545/AFF I'95/Tandem Instructor
>Celebrating the 31st anniversary of my first airshow performance at the
>Sun 'n Fun EAA Fly-In, Lakeland, FL. I am pleased and honored to support
>this year's featured performers, Ann Daley and Wes Liu, the Star Spangled
>Flyers, from NH, with the world's largest U.S. flag (40X60). Also
>returning this year, Ray "Buzz" Arceneaux, Barry Chase, Chad Hunt, Steve
>and Nicole Dunham.
Well, since Ron brought it up, I'll say that we also got to hear a
speech by, shake hands with, and have our log books signed by Chuck Yeager. Now
THAT was cool!
Barry Chase D9545/AFF I'95/Tandem Instructor
said...
>
>In article <1995Apr10....@inet.d48.lilly.com>,
>>These new ZP canopy thingies are pretty cool.
>
Would that have been your piglet main or reserve? *8->
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Barry Chase D9545/AFF I'95/Tandem Instructor
My point exactly, you lovely blonde thing you!
RonD1120
=>Sun 'n Fun EAA Fly-In, Lakeland, FL. I am pleased and honored to
support
=>this year's featured performers, Ann Daley and Wes Liu, the Star
Spangled
=>Flyers, from NH, with the world's largest U.S. flag (40X60). Also
=>returning this year, Ray "Buzz" Arceneaux, Barry Chase, Chad Hunt, Steve
=>and Nicole Dunham.
=
= Well, since Ron brought it up, I'll say that we also got to hear a
=speech by, shake hands with, and have our log books signed by Chuck
Yeager. = Now
=THAT was cool!
=
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Why yes! Yes it was.
Ron
RonD1120
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=Andy
Piglets came out during my skydiving hiatus to Taos, NM and other strange
mountains. PC is a Pioneer Para-Commander; Pap is for the French version,
Papillon (sp?).
Ron Schott
D1120
John Harman
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You Know your an (old) skydiver when . . . you had to have a 25 jumps
before you could jump a PC, or 100 jumps and an intentional cutaway
before you could jump a square.
John Harman
C-8330
Jim Milstead
I thought it was 150 jumps for your first square ride. My first square was
a paraplane cloud, followed by a baby plane. On the latter, you had either
hit the ground or opened, but didn't know for a few seconds until you could
put your eyes back in the sockets. On the cloud, I took off 7 pounds of
reinforcing tape and shortlined it 42". I experimented putting a "diaper"
on it (now it is called slider) but still slammed me. I compromised
putting the diaper on it and keeping the ropes n rings on top but not doing
the suicide knots, just stowing them. Worked until the day I rode it in
(long story won't go into). BTW, I packed the plane into a skinnymini, an
all day job.
Jim
>John Harman
>C-8330
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Gregory Layton Reid
: >before you could jump a PC, or 100 jumps and an intentional cutaway
: >before you could jump a square.
Around here and back then you needed B licence to jump a square. My first
square jump was under a strato star while competing in the Nova Scotia
Accuracy Championships way back in (checking log book) Aug/80 on jump #
72. I won that competition (under 100 class) my first. I guess your an
old skydiver when you can remember back to the days when you routinely
hammered in and loved ever second of it.--
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vince....@euterpe.spk.wa.us
No, no, no... I always landed nice and soft under my Strato-Star. You must
have been doing it wrong.....