Fatality Headcorn
Gary Weston
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TooyT
>From: Gary Weston <g.we...@cytanet.com.cy> Wrote:
>We Freefall Parachutists do it at 120mph, without a seatbelt!!!
>Do you still think we are sane to jump out of a plane?
>Try it, you may just enjoy it.
I bet ewe got a chest strap/belt though. :-*snuffy
jimca...@my-dejanews.com
> Here in Cyprus we just heard of a fatality at the Headcorn DZ england,
> anybody got any more details?
This report was in the Sun newspaper yesterday (28/09). Does anyone have any
more complete information?
SKYDIVER KILLED IN CHARITY JUMP
A man died yesterday when his parachute failed to open while making a charity
jump. The victim - believed to be 23 and from Essex - was the second skydiver
to die at Headcorn Aerodrome near Maidstone, Kent this year.
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Dan Rossi
> This report was in the Sun newspaper yesterday (28/09). Does anyone have any
> more complete information?
>
> SKYDIVER KILLED IN CHARITY JUMP
>
> A man died yesterday when his parachute failed to open while making a charity
> jump. The victim - believed to be 23 and from Essex - was the second skydiver
> to die at Headcorn Aerodrome near Maidstone, Kent this year.
>
I have this vague recollection of a woman being killed on a charity jump
in England a number of years ago. I believe she went through the blades
of the helicopter that was filming her jump.
SHEESH! What kind of charities do you guys run over there? :-)
Flare when you hear the crickets.
Dan
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Ross Fenton
unconnected with the jump. It was a student pilot and his instructor
practicing hovering. To avoid distractions the radio volume was turned
down. So the helicopter pilot was unable to hear any warnings.
I heard two tandems died in the same weekend in your country, what sort
of operation are you running.
(We average 2 deaths a year out here, student deaths are quite rare.)
Ross
Dan Rossi
> That lovely incident was in Thruxton, about 1988. The helicopter was
> unconnected with the jump. It was a student pilot and his instructor
> practicing hovering. To avoid distractions the radio volume was turned
> down. So the helicopter pilot was unable to hear any warnings.
Thanks for the complete details. My only info came from a trash magazine
so I didn't believe most of what I read. But I had remembered hearing
that the basic incident was true.
>
> I heard two tandems died in the same weekend in your country, what sort
> of operation are you running.
>
I was not making light of the accident or critisizing your safety record.
I was just trying to poke a little fun at the expense of your charities
not your skydiving community. And no, it wasn't a lagit critisism of your
charities either. I was just noting the fact that the only two deaths I
have ever heard of in your country were both on so-called charitty dives.
And apparently, the second one had nothing to do with a charity dive.
I appologize. No disrespect was intended.
Dan Rossi
TooyT
>From: Ross Fenton <rfe...@vega.co.uk>
Wrote:
>I heard two tandems died in the same weekend in your country, what sort
>of operation are you running.
Heh heh git on them sissyassed americans
Limey, They die far more frequently and
kill a few students to, course they doan use
S/L round training much anymore. Them
choppers are a bitch, if ewe look at the
rotating blades frum above ewe git focused
and fly right into them every time. Dan
doan huv to worry about thut though he
doan see to gud. Besides he might be frum
Georgia or sumthang. Yawl huv fun over
thar in the Uk, and try to git along with
these anal assed USPA types, after all ewe
Britts ain't nothing but refined Americans
with eccentric customs. :-* snuffy sez if ewe
hadn't of responded to the fire quick a hole
bunch of american swud huv ben crying
and saying how much they cared fer that
ferin skydiver and how dishonest and shitty
Brit DZ's & DZO's are, thuts whut happens
over heer cuz its a national past time. Condeming a beautiful sport that is a
known
risk before anyone starts. Ole Dan he a
purty gud ole boy but never show weakness
around americans, they will own yer ass
stampede over ewe lakk a flock of crybaby
sheep cuz a coyote took one, blues to
you over thar in BPA land.:-P snuffy
Remove DSOI to reply via mail ewe dum sheep :-P
Colin Fitzmaurice
>I was just trying to poke a little fun at the expense of your charities
>not your skydiving community. And no, it wasn't a lagit critisism of your
>charities either. I was just noting the fact that the only two deaths I
>have ever heard of in your country were both on so-called charitty dives.
>And apparently, the second one had nothing to do with a charity dive.
>
>I appologize. No disrespect was intended.
>
>Dan Rossi
The charity jump is a UK phenomenon where asks a lot of people to
sponsor them for a small amount to make a first jump. It got very
popular in the early 80s due to the almost single handed work of one man
(I won't mention his name as it just encourages him :))and now accounts
for some 70% of first time jumpers. They still take exactly the same
course via S/L, Tandem or AFF etc., but its a good way to subsidise the
first jump especially considering the costs in the UK.
As a side issue it also benefits a few charities :)
BSBD
Colin Fitzmaurice http://www.tilstock.demon.co.uk
The Parachute Centre
Tilstock Airfield
Whitchurch
Shropshire SY13 2HA
United Kingdom
+44 (0)1948 841111
Dan Rossi
> The charity jump is a UK phenomenon where asks a lot of people to
> sponsor them for a small amount to make a first jump. It got very
> Oh man. I really do feel bad now. I completely missed the
translation from English to ... English. My faux pas.
I just had this thought of some goofball trying to raise money for
a charity by doing what the general public would consider a stunt
and then getting killed. The only two times I have heard the term
Charity jump was connected with a death. So I thought maybe you
Britts had come up with some kind of charitable organization that
bumped off people for a public service or something. It just
seemed odd.
I really do apologize.
Flare when you hear the crickets.
Dan
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> Colin Fitzmaurice http://www.tilstock.demon.co.uk
TooyT
>From: Dan Rossi <dro...@transarc.com>
Wrote:
>Oh man. I really do feel bad now. I completely missed the
>translation from English to ... English. My faux pas.
No need to do thut Dan we whipped the Britts
in 1776 and 1812 then turned around and
loaned them sidewinders during the Falkun
war. Being brothers with a country ewe cun
whip (twice) means never having to say ewe
sorry. :-p snuffy the international redneck
diplomat sez, heh heh heh. :-P
>
Colin Fitzmaurice
>Britts had come up with some kind of charitable organization that
>bumped off people for a public service or something.
We did. Its called the NHS (National Health Service).
BSBD
TooyT
In article <2NdfZEAM...@tilstock.demon.co.uk>, Colin Fitzmaurice
<co...@tilstock.demon.co.uk> writes: to sumone trying to be smert about the Uk
and their eccentric ways & experiments in Socializim. :)
> So I thought maybe you
>>Britts had come up with some kind of charitable organization that
>>bumped off people for a public service or something.
>
>We did. Its called the NHS (National Health Service).
**************************************************************
ROTFF watch out they will put ewe on the next ship to thut penal colony in
the pacific rim. Ain't no coyotes there, ewel huv to deside to be a sheep or
a dingo, I vote fer the dingo's :-P snuffy sez ewe cunt go to Canada cuz they
got sumthing like that NHS too course the Ozzies ain't nothing but Ruffneck
Britts with big sheep flocks. They may be secret Socialist types too. :-P
Ross Fenton
the Brits burn down your capital.
With 1776 and 1812 lets call it 2-1 to the yanks.
Ross
Ross Fenton
I realized your mail was intended as a humourous quip. My only concern
was that someone might believe the bit about the helicopter filming the
jump was true. No rebuke was intended. As for my remark about the
tandems, well I felt the need to defend the British end.
Charity jumps, while they subsidize DZ's are a pain. Often in summer a
large centre can have a course of 100 first time jumpers, and they all
seem to bring their entire extended family to witness the affair. This
means there is difficulty parking and you can never get to the canteen.
Ross
TooyT
In article <36122737...@vega.co.uk>, Ross Fenton <rfe...@vega.co.uk>
writes:
>I seem to recall from history that the 1812 affair was a draw. Did'nt
>the Brits burn down your capital.
>
>With 1776 and 1812 lets call it 2-1 to the yanks.
>
Ewe right, I wuz thinking about 1814 when Andy Jackson run Pakinham thru the
Louisiana swamps and into the Gulf. Yawl shuda stayed in D.C. and killed
all the Lawyer/politicians . The rest of the USA would have been eternally
gratefull. But No, Yawl had to be like a pack of Vandals and burn a focking
building
down. Whut wuz them Redcoats, early skydiver mental?? :-P snuffy
Winsor Naugler III
>I seem to recall from history that the 1812 affair was a draw. Did'nt
>the Brits burn down your capital.
>
With any luck, we might be able contract them to do it again. Throw in the
South Bronx, West Philly, Chicago's South Side, Newark and East LA for good
measure, and Urban Renewal will be well underway.
I agree it's a win-win situation.
Blue skies,
Winsor
TooyT
***********************************
Yuh send the Redcoats, after 1800 it seems
they saw the ex-colony as a Boggie DZ
ewe know a place to light bonfires. Come
on back and wipe out sum burocrats and
oh yeah weld Slick Willy's zipper shut.
Heh heh ho ho har :-* snuffy
Harju, Mark A
Good one! ROFLMAO!
Please remove "no-spam" from address when replying
Colin Fitzmaurice wrote:
>
> > So I thought maybe you
> >Britts had come up with some kind of charitable organization that
> >bumped off people for a public service or something.
>
> We did. Its called the NHS (National Health Service).
>
co...@my-dejanews.com
Colin Fitzmaurice <co...@tilstock.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > So I thought maybe you
> >Britts had come up with some kind of charitable organization that
> >bumped off people for a public service or something.
>
> We did. Its called the NHS (National Health Service).
>
> BSBD
>
> Colin Fitzmaurice http://www.tilstock.demon.co.uk
> The Parachute Centre
> Tilstock Airfield
> Whitchurch
> Shropshire SY13 2HA
United Kingdom
> +44 (0)1948 841111
>
Does anyone have any futher info. on the fatality at Headcorn.
I'm interested because I was jumping there on the Friday before.
Wild Bill
Ross Fenton wrote in message
snipped for sake of joke.
, well I felt the need to defend the British end.
why...... are they a bunch of poufers.?
wb
Lynn Beckhorn
Winsor Naugler III wrote:
> Ross Fenton wrote in message <36122737...@vega.co.uk>...
> >I seem to recall from history that the 1812 affair was a draw. Did'nt
> >the Brits burn down your capital.
> >
>
> With any luck, we might be able contract them to do it again. Throw in the
> South Bronx, West Philly, Chicago's South Side, Newark and East LA for good
> measure, and Urban Renewal will be well underway.
>
> I agree it's a win-win situation.
>
Don't forget Tacoma, we need some Urban Renewal in the Northwest too.
Blue skies,,,,,,,,,,,,, Lynn
co...@my-dejanews.com
>
Does anyone have anymore info. on the fatality at Headcorn as I was jumping
there on the Friday before.
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Richard Yearsley
>South Bronx, West Philly, Chicago's South Side, Newark and East LA for good
>measure, and Urban Renewal will be well underway.
Lets send some Millwall supporters.
Oh, for any Americans reading this I'm talking about football fans, you
know, football, where you kick the ball around with your feet.
--
Richard Yearsley
Email: ri...@ricks-place.demon.co.uk
TooyT
>From: Richard Yearsley <ri...@ricks-place.demon.co.uk> Wrote:
>Lets send some Millwall supporters.
>
>Oh, for any Americans reading this I'm talking about football fans, you
>know, football, where you kick the ball around with your feet.
>Richard Yearsley
>Email: ri...@ricks-place.demon.co.uk
Yuh we saw the soccor playoffs, the whole
world knows the Britt fans are the Thugs
of pooferball and thut the Frunch jailed
yer Hooligan ass's left and right. We in
the Americas on the other hand are far
more reserved and refined. Ewe must
be able to see that by the way we air our
Skydiving dirty linen on the Ng with
English, not fists and beer bottles. Ha ha
ha ha ho ho kick sum ass Limeys. :-P snuffy
Kevin McPhillips
fatality at Headcorn. I understand that it was a student on a square
static line jump, but I have no details.
My condolences to all concerned.
Kevin McP
D167 (PAI)
SKY...@ix.netcom.com
Richard Yearsley wrote:
> Lets send some Millwall supporters.
>
> Oh, for any Americans reading this I'm talking about football fans, you
> know, football, where you kick the ball around with your feet.
Or in the case of 'The Firm' AKA Millwall supporters, you kick anything and
anybody you come across around with your feet, though to temper this they'll
also give you a 'glaswegian kiss' by way of a 'goodnight'. Oh the joys of the
sporting life, how I miss those days!
BS
Martin.
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Danni_Young
RBA: UK: SKYDIVER DIES ON FIRST LEAP. <Picture>
Daily Mirror September 29, 1998
By JAMES MELLOR.
A PARACHUTIST plunged 2,000ft to his death while making his first jump.
Ian George, 23, was killed in front of his horrified girlfriend.
Investigators believe that both the main and reserve chutes failed to
open properly.
Ian is thought to have booked the jump to raise money for charity. He
was one of seven parachutists who made the leap from a plane at Headcorn
Airfield near Maidstone, Kent. In June skydiving instructor Andrew
Kelly, 26, was also killed at Headcorn. And in 1989, barrister Tatiana
Pond, 27, died in the propellor blades of the plane she jumped from at
the airfield.
Jane Buckle, manager of Headcorn Parachute Club, said yesterday: "Like
any sport there are risks, but any tragedy like this is very upsetting.
"The club has been running for 20 years and we take about 2,000
first-time jumpers up each year. In total we organise anything up to
20,000 descents annually.
"We have six full-time instructors and our training is second to none."
Police said Ian, from South Benfleet, Essex, apparently had problems
with his main and reserve parachutes.
John Hitchen, from the British Parachute Association, said: "Despite
instructions from the ground to continue his descent with the main
chute, it appears that the jumper ditched that and tried to use the
reserve chute which then failed."
An inquest will be held.
(c) Mirror Group Ltd, 1998.
ha...@my-dejanews.com
incidents...
Belle
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><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: Fatality Headcorn - more info
>From: ha...@my-dejanews.com
>Date: Thu, Oct 1, 1998 13:12 EDT
>Message-id: <6v0d50$55o$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
>
>Well I am glad they didn't hype it up and drag out other unrelated
>incidents...
>
>Belle
>
>
Sounds like your local reporters may not be as bad as our "vultures" here in
the U.S. Sorry for your loss over there.
Larry
Ian Smith
CCI but gave up the position some months back and Pete Sizer is the new CCI,
so I'm confused about what they mean when they say "Jane Buckle is the
manager".
The BBC news gave out the information that the parachutist's reserve fired,
presumed by accident, and became entangled with his main and he then
jettisoned both. I'm not sure how he could have done this nor are the other
students I've talked to - we think the BBC got their facts wrong (but then,
we are students).
Whuffos in Headcorn (according to my B&B landlady) are circulating the story
that the fatality should never have jumped and got on the plane by accident
and as a result a major investigation is underway and the DZ is likely to be
closed down. As if! (Headcorn has long had a very vocal minority that want
the DZ to go because they don't like the noise of the planes!) It shows how
scary such rumours can be.
The only stories I've heard are NOT from anyone official at the DZ so should
be treated as mere gossip. Two separate sources (other AFF students) say the
jumper was a first-time cancer charity jumper jumping from 4000 feet and
that somehow (the gossip says "terror" played a part) the reserve handle was
pulled as he exited the plane and the reserve became entangled with his
main. I repeat this is just gossip so just add it as yet another rumour on
the story.
I will try and get the real story from the CCI this weekend.
A few other points in this thread. There WAS a helicopter fatality at
Headcorn a few years back. I was told when training back in May that there
have been two blade fatalities - one involving a student walking into a
plane propellor, the other landing on a helicopter waiting to take off.
Tragically the girlfriend of the DZ owner was killed a few years back and I
THINK she was the one who landed on the helicopter blade. There is a (naval
I think) helicopter training school at the DZ although they are normally
banned from being in the air when parachutists are in the air. I'm not sure
what went wrong in the case of the fatality a few years back. Mistakes do
happen. The CCI was appalled a few weeks ago when a police helicopter was
hovering around the landing area with blades spinning as parachutists were
coming in to land - this is not supposed to happen although I believe it's
under the control of Air Traffic Control to ensure this doesn't happen!
I am told that there have now been 6 fatalities at Headcorn in over 20
years - unfortunately two of them have occurred in this last year (I have
also been told there were no fatalities in the 8 years prior to this one).
All except one (the death of instructor Andy Kelly in May) have been put
down to "human error" whereas Andy's death is frequently referred to by the
senior instructors I've spoken to as "a freak of nature - he did everything
he should have done, by the book".
Hope this clarifies some of the issues. Like I said, NONE of it is official
but I will try and get the real story this weekend. For obvious reasons I
did not want to hassle the DZ on the phone at such a sensitive time.
Ian
(AFF student and skydiving newbie)
Danni_Young wrote in message <36137F...@hotmail.com>...
SKY...@ix.netcom.com
Ljdsparker wrote:
I believe the sarcasm was lost on you! (perhaps ya gotta be a brit).
SKY...@ix.netcom.com
Ian Smith wrote:
> Fascinating how the media seem to confuse things. Jane Buckle used to be the
> CCI but gave up the position some months back and Pete Sizer is the new CCI,
> so I'm confused about what they mean when they say "Jane Buckle is the
> manager".
> A few other points in this thread. There WAS a helicopter fatality at
> Headcorn a few years back.
If you mean the incident where the student flew into the spinning blades of a
helicopter, I'm sorry this is wrong. The helicopter incident was at Thruxton in
the mid eighties. A young girl making a first jump appeared to have object
fixation and flew into a helicopter which was on the ground with blades
spinning.
> I was told when training back in May that there
> have been two blade fatalities - one involving a student walking into a
> plane propellor,
Sorry, wrong again unless something else happened that I am unaware of. This one
did happen at Headcorn. She was a somewhat experienced jumper, the DZ owners
girlfriend, a lawyer I believe. The Islander was either getting fuel, had gotten
fuel or had just fired up to take a load as I remember it (the club had two
Islanders at this time). Anyway, seems in this incident object fixation also
took place and she flew right into the (left-hand ?) prop, the A/C was static at
the time as I recall. A considerable amount off damage was caused to the A/C and
a law suit resulted from the DZ owner as the BPA's insurers wouldn't cover the
cost of repairs. I believe he eventually had to sue the estate of the deceased!
> There is a (naval
> I think) helicopter training school at the DZ although they are normally
> banned from being in the air when parachutists are in the air. I'm not sure
> what went wrong in the case of the fatality a few years back. Mistakes do
> happen. The CCI was appalled a few weeks ago when a police helicopter was
> hovering around the landing area with blades spinning as parachutists were
> coming in to land - this is not supposed to happen although I believe it's
> under the control of Air Traffic Control to ensure this doesn't happen!
> Hope this clarifies some of the issues. Like I said, NONE of it is official
> but I will try and get the real story this weekend. For obvious reasons I
> did not want to hassle the DZ on the phone at such a sensitive time.
>
> Ian
> (AFF student and skydiving newbie)
My experience of Headcorn is that they run a pretty tight ship. Safety and
concern for the proper training and well being of their students and up-jumpers
is of paramount importance. Though they could do well to lighten up on the
attitude a little, not that I've been there in the last 14 years but by recent
posts to this newsgroup that much hasn't changed! Must be something about them
though, they do seem to be able to keep a loyal customer base, could be that
really cool Pub they have close by, The Smarden Bell!
Blue ones,
Stay Safe.
Martin Evans.
Ian Smith
By the way one of the AFF students has set up a Headcorn bulletin board you
might be interested in at http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/skydiveheadcorn We
could do with a few more participants I think.
I have to have a quick op on my foot tomorrow (local anaestheric job) but
hope to hobble down to Headcorn Friday evening. I'm not hard to spot - I'm
the one wearing the t-shirt with the Headcorn Parachute Club logo on and the
words "OFFICIAL: Most Crap Student 98" slogan underneath.
All the best,
Ian
Terry Glanfield wrote in message ...
>
>"Ian Smith" <i...@iansmith.co.uk> writes:
>> Fascinating how the media seem to confuse things. Jane Buckle used to be
the
>> CCI but gave up the position some months back and Pete Sizer is the new
CCI,
>> so I'm confused about what they mean when they say "Jane Buckle is the
>> manager".
>
>Financial Manager of some sort.
>
>> ....we think the BBC got their facts wrong...
>
>Nothing new there.
>
>This was the student's second jump as a birthday present to himself.
>He exited the aircraft and rotated into a "sitfly position" 180
>degrees off heading allowing the strap to dislodge the reserve pin.
>The exit was photographed by an on-plane camera. He then cutaway a
>fully inflated main, against advise on his radio, and the reserve
>failed to deploy properly.
>
>I have every confidence in the source of this information.
>
>See you at the weekend Ian.
>
>Terry "Not hard to spot, just look for long hair and no teeth" Glanfield.
Ian Smith
me about fatalities when I started my training back in May. I was sure the
helicopter story had been related as a Headcorn incident but I am getting to
the age where the old memory starts playing up now and again and it looks
like I remembered this one wrong.
Ian
SKY...@ix.netcom.com wrote in message <36144BE7...@ix.netcom.com>...
>
>
>Ian Smith wrote:
>
>> Fascinating how the media seem to confuse things. Jane Buckle used to be
the
>> CCI but gave up the position some months back and Pete Sizer is the new
CCI,
>> so I'm confused about what they mean when they say "Jane Buckle is the
>> manager".
>
>> A few other points in this thread. There WAS a helicopter fatality at
>> Headcorn a few years back.
>
>If you mean the incident where the student flew into the spinning blades of
a
>helicopter, I'm sorry this is wrong. The helicopter incident was at
Thruxton in
>the mid eighties. A young girl making a first jump appeared to have object
>fixation and flew into a helicopter which was on the ground with blades
>spinning.
>
>> I was told when training back in May that there
>> have been two blade fatalities - one involving a student walking into a
>> plane propellor,
>
>Sorry, wrong again unless something else happened that I am unaware of.
This one
>did happen at Headcorn. She was a somewhat experienced jumper, the DZ
owners
>girlfriend, a lawyer I believe. The Islander was either getting fuel, had
gotten
>fuel or had just fired up to take a load as I remember it (the club had two
>Islanders at this time). Anyway, seems in this incident object fixation
also
>took place and she flew right into the (left-hand ?) prop, the A/C was
static at
>the time as I recall. A considerable amount off damage was caused to the
A/C and
>a law suit resulted from the DZ owner as the BPA's insurers wouldn't cover
the
>cost of repairs. I believe he eventually had to sue the estate of the
deceased!
>
>> There is a (naval
>> I think) helicopter training school at the DZ although they are normally
>> banned from being in the air when parachutists are in the air. I'm not
sure
>> what went wrong in the case of the fatality a few years back. Mistakes do
>> happen. The CCI was appalled a few weeks ago when a police helicopter was
>> hovering around the landing area with blades spinning as parachutists
were
>> coming in to land - this is not supposed to happen although I believe
it's
>> under the control of Air Traffic Control to ensure this doesn't happen!
>
>> Hope this clarifies some of the issues. Like I said, NONE of it is
official
>> but I will try and get the real story this weekend. For obvious reasons I
>> did not want to hassle the DZ on the phone at such a sensitive time.
>>
>> Ian
>> (AFF student and skydiving newbie)
>
Ross Fenton
Islander using the excuse that the accident was caused by an experience
skydiver who did not land in the designated area.
The only way they could recover the cost was to sue the skydivers
estate. I don't remember ever hearing the outcome of the case. I
understand that the parents of the girl gave the DZ support in the
action, which must of been quite difficult for them.
On a second note I am sorry to hear that Jane is no longer CCI, she was
one of the top woman in the sport (UK at least) when I started. And I
believe the first female CCI in the UK. With her gone, I think that just
leaves Maggie Penny at Wild Geese holding the female standard.
Ross
Colin Fitzmaurice
<rfe...@vega.co.uk> writes
>If I recall correctly the DZ's insurance refused to pay out for the
>Islander using the excuse that the accident was caused by an experience
>skydiver who did not land in the designated area.
It was more to do with a cop out clause in the insurance that a BPA
member (the DZ) could not claim from another BPA member (the jumper).
The legal arguments dragged out for years but they eventually paid out.
However, the delay meant that the Turbine Islander could not be repaired
and one of the finest skydiving aircraft in the UK is now the most
expensive mockup in the UK :(
Andy Long
Ian Smith wrote in message
<907286129.7769.0...@news.demon.co.uk>...
>I have to have a quick op on my foot tomorrow (local anaestheric job) but
>hope to hobble down to Headcorn Friday evening. I'm not hard to spot - I'm
>the one wearing the t-shirt with the Headcorn Parachute Club logo on and
the
>words "OFFICIAL: Most Crap Student 98" slogan underneath.
I thought I was up for that award having dislocated and broken my arm/elbow
one jump off getting off static line??
Andy (for it is he)
Richard Yearsley
>the one wearing the t-shirt with the Headcorn Parachute Club logo on and the
>words "OFFICIAL: Most Crap Student 98" slogan underneath.
Hang on, I thought I was the most crap student of 98. I'm the one that's
had two reserve rides in his first 5 freefalls without any malfunctions.
--
Richard Yearsley (cat4 ish)
Email: ri...@ricks-place.demon.co.uk
Ian Smith
competition jump! ;-)
Ian
Richard Yearsley wrote in message ...
Ian Smith
she is now she doesn't have CCI responsibilities.
Ian
Ross Fenton wrote in message <3614C926...@vega.co.uk>...
>If I recall correctly the DZ's insurance refused to pay out for the
>Islander using the excuse that the accident was caused by an experience
>skydiver who did not land in the designated area.
>
Ian Smith
>I will try and get the real story from the CCI this weekend.
I got the story from Pete (the CCI) this morning, but was later advised by
another member of staff NOT to answer any questions about the incident, and
that all questions should be directed only to Headcorn staff, so will not
make any further comment.
However, the following report from Weald Courier's Friday front page has
information on this and other subjects (insurance, previous fatalities)
touched on in this thread, that may be of interest.
Ian
"Man on first jump falls to his death
PARACHUTE TRAGEDY
A man making his first parachute jump fell 3,500 feet to his death at
Headcorn Airport on Sunday.
Ian George, 23, from South Benfleet in Essex died shortly after 4pm after
experiencing difficulties with his parachute.
The accident comes just months after Headcorn Parachute Club instructor
Andrew Kelly, 26, was killed at the airport when both his main and reserve
parachutes failed to operate.
Mr Kelly had been a qualified parachute instructor since 1992 and had made
more than 2000 jumps.
Headcorn parachute Club chief instructor, Peter Sizer, described Mr George's
death as a "tragic accident".
He said "Ian came down on Saturday to make a first jump on a static line
square parachute. That training took all day Saturday and he then underwent
a revision of key points on Sunday prior to making his descent."
"The British Parachuting Association officers are conducting an inquiry and
will be reporting to the coroner's office"
Mr Sizer added: "We're looking at everything to see what we can learn from
this and obviously our thoughts are with his family".
Kent Police and the Midlands-based British Parachuting Association are
investigating the accident.
Independent parachute clubs across Britain observe rules and guidelines set
down by the BPA.
BPA technical officer Tony Butler said: "We're the governing body for all
sports parachuting, both civilian and military. The Civil Aviation Authority
delegates responsibility to us and all parachute clubs in the country are
affiliated to us."
"Our report on the accident will go to the safety and training committee,
the Civil Aviation Authority and the coroner."
Health and Safety Executive spokesman, Peter O'Connor said "If there is any
work activity involved then we investigate. For instance if it was a paid
instructor we would investigate".
Almost two years ago two Weald pilots were involved in a fatal mid-air
collision 15 minutes after taking off from Headcorn Aerodrome.
Brian Armitage, 62, of Horsmonden and his pupil Wendy Camp, 53, died after
crashing into a field at Langdon Abbey near Dover, after colliding with a
metal Robin monoplane flown by Jack Wells, 61, from Cobham.
In 1989 Headcorn Parachute Club boss David Parker watched his fiancee crash
to her death in the propellor blades of a plane as it taxied on the ground.
Twenty-seven year old barrister Tatiana Pond was killed in the freak
accident at Headcorn airfield after jumping out of the aircraft at 8,000
feet.
In 1994 Headcorn Parachute Club brought a claim against Miss Pond's insurers
seeking compensation for the estimated £130,000 damage caused to the plane
involved.
A High Court ruling found Miss Pond to be 50 percent responsible for her own
death. Mr Justice Alliott said she had been negligent in disobeying
instructions as to the area she was supposed to land in and had failed to
keep a proper look-out.
He rejected claims that the pilot of the plane had been negligent but ruled
the parachute club must bear 50 per cent of the blame and found it had been
negligent in respect of 'drop zone' practices.
End of report