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Skrape

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Jan 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/5/98
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I got a Burton for Christmas and i've never snowboarded. Me and my family
and 1 of my friends are going on the mountain this Weekend. Does anyone
have any Hints or Tips?...I'll try anything (Regardless of the amount of
pain that may conclude)


Zac7472

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Jan 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/5/98
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dont fall..take a lesson..have a hot tub or massuse ready at the end of the day

Vernon

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Naked hot tubing......and the massage afterwards.

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>>The Hot Tub is VERY important!!!
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The Hot Tub is VERY important!!!

Yokes

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On Tue, 06 Jan 1998 00:30:45 GMT, b...@madcow.com wrote:

>The Hot Tub is VERY important!!!

with the maseusse

SnowMann56

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>Subject: First timer!!! Any Hints or Tips???
>From: "Skrape" <wo...@intrnet.net>
>Date: Sun, Jan 4, 1998 20:58 EST
>Message-id: <01bd199e$edeb7440$42c98dd0@wolf>

>
>I got a Burton for Christmas and i've never snowboarded. Me and my family
>and 1 of my friends are going on the mountain this Weekend. Does anyone
>have any Hints or Tips?...I'll try anything (Regardless of the amount of
>pain that may conclude)

First thing to do is take a lesson or two. That should help you from getting
hurt too bad.


zed

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Jan 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/10/98
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1. Waterproof pants/gloves.

2. Keepads under your pants

3. Take a lesson ot two.

4. Take lot's of Ibuprofin!

-zed

David M Hess

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Jan 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/13/98
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I just got back from Breckenridge Colorado (went to Keystone,
Breckenridge, and Vail)...Was my first time Snowboarding...took about 1 day to
get used to it and I was able to run the Blue-Black runs pretty good after
that (not a lot of jumping, but downhill wasn't a problem)....A lot like
skateboarding and wakeboarding...just a little colder...Tried the half pipe at
the Park in Breckenridge, but busted my ass on that...I figure I'll wait till
my next trip to try that some more.

One thing that I think EVERYONE should look into getting is a pair of wrist
guards. I took a pair for rollerblading and it worked great. First two days
I didn't use those puppies and my wrist were pretty soar, last 4 days I used
them and they worked keen...I think it kept me from breaking my left wrist too
on one of the jumps at Keystone....Too bad I didn't have a helmet though,
knocked myself out for a sec. ;)

Just hang in there the first few days, keep trying...those little green runs
can be a bitch since they're usually packed down with ICE, but it'll pay
off...

The hardest thing about the whole trip *I* found was just running on
straight flat runs....Seems like that is the hardest thing about
snowboarding...I crashed more on slow straights rather than downhill slopes or
jumps. Guess you just have to keep on an edge at all times.

Dave

Kwang Uk B Chun

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Jan 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/17/98
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Alot of people (most often skiers) try to say that snowboarding is much
more dangerous than skiing, because your feet are locked into possition.

Let's examine the facts for a minute, shall we?

I was at Camelback the other day and went to the first aid office for a
band aid, only to discover a herd of injured people. There was one
broken leg, three broken arms, and one fucked up neck. All five of
these people were skiers. Furthermore, in the celebrity realm, we've got
Sonny Bono and that Kennedy kid dead, on skis, not a snowboard.

Now, I must admit that this study represents an insufficiently small
sample size, however, does anyone else see a trend here?

-Bryan C.

Josh Wells

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Jan 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/17/98
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Once you get the hang of snowboarding and some practice under your belt, the
falls actually go away. I came back a lot more sore from snow boarding my
first few times than I did my first times skiing. But now that I have the
hang of it, I don't really fall as often or as hard anymore. I think all in
all, it is safer.

Josh

> As a skier/snowboarder I find I fear snowbaord falls the most. While for
>skiing one goes spread eagle and your limbs flail in every direction, I
find
>that for boarding I get a lot of hard impact upper body slams. For skiing
I
>woory about my knees, for boarding I fear head slams and getting the wind
>knocked out of me. (btw I convinced a friend to try boarding - convincing
>him it was "safe" - well, after falling on his butt twenty times his ass
was
>soooo sore that instead of falling on his butt for the 21st time he tried
to
>break his fall by putting out his arm and he broke it clean in two!)
>
>later
>b
>
>

Paal Ottar Standal

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Jan 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/18/98
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when i was skiing i twisted my knee really bad (kneecap displaced for 4
hrs, on outside of knee), now ive been boarding for almost 2 yrs, and
still not any major injuries... Skiing is more dangerous because your
legs can move independently, go separate ways...

-Pottis

DurangoMan

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Jan 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/18/98
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You really hit the nail the head here, Bryan. Even though your
experience could have been due to the fact that there are just more
skiiers out there than boarders, statistics support your point. Also,
having your feet locked together is an advantage; when was the last time
you heard of a boarder with a blown-out knee? Also, not having poles is
another good thing. There are literally hundreds of cases where skiers
have either taken the top of the pole in the chest (broken ribs) or
stabbed themselves somewhere else with the pointy end. Snowboarders do
suffer alot of injuries in the parks and half-pipes, but looking at the
statistics, skiers who venture into the park are much more likely to take
a ride down the mountain in an orange sled. The only injury that
snowboarders are particularly prone to is the classic 'Burton break',
which is a fractured wrist. Big deal, I say. Wrists heal a lot faster
than ACL's or femurs. I'd say we've got the better deal here.

DurangoMan

john webster

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Jan 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/19/98
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Kwang Uk B Chun wrote:
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> Alot of people (most often skiers) try to say that snowboarding is much
> more dangerous than skiing, because your feet are locked into possition.

This came up on the newsgroup about a year ago, and someone mentioned a
study that was conducted in Australia and written up in an Australian
medical journal. Over several years, the study found that injuries among
skiers and boarders are about equal in numbers. The difference was more
knee injuries for skiers, more ankle and wrist injuries for boarders.

Actually I just checked, and this is mentioned in the almighty FAQ. Read
the scripture of r.s.s, my son, and you will see the light! :^D=

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Gus Palaskas

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Jan 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/19/98
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> This came up on the newsgroup about a year ago, and someone mentioned a
> study that was conducted in Australia and written up in an Australian
> medical journal. Over several years, the study found that injuries among
> skiers and boarders are about equal in numbers. The difference was more
> knee injuries for skiers, more ankle and wrist injuries for boarders.
>
> Actually I just checked, and this is mentioned in the almighty FAQ. Read
> the scripture of r.s.s, my son, and you will see the light! :^D=
>
> -johnw

At a ski/snowboard expo in Seattle late last November, a researcher from
Johns Hopkins had a booth describing his ongoing study about ski and
snowboarding injuries. He was enlisting subjects to follow for several
years. He did say he had a website but I don't recall the address.

bill herzog

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Jan 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/20/98
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Gus Palaskas wrote:

As a skier/snowboarder I find I fear snowbaord falls the most. While for

jeffbonny

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Jan 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/20/98
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On Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:40:59 -0500, bill herzog <her...@bu.edu> wrote:
> As a skier/snowboarder I find I fear snowboard falls the most.

The matter of situation and perspective shouldn't be overlooked.
If I'm jumping into something steep, narrow and exposed I want a
snowboard. On a board I know I'm not going to blow out of my bindings
like I might on skis, I can put it in a smaller space and turn tighter
than I can on skis and I can set my heelside edge with a lot more
power than I can set a ski.
On the other hand going 80kph on the hardpack on skis feels much safer
to me than that kind of speed on a board. Being able to skate at the
bottom to ditch the patrol really helps too.

Snowboarding and skiing are both dangerous, it's one of the reasons
they're both fun. Ya want safe? Stay home.


jeff
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John Negomir

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Jan 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/20/98
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Try

http://www.injury-study.org/

for the study on injuries.

John

Fred

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Jan 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/20/98
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I just sprained my ankle in a reletivly mild, over the handlebars
crash on a steep slope. I've heard all the arguments against
release bindings and have had many worse crashes with no
injuries but I sure wish I was riding instead of gimping around.
Don't get me wrong, I love riding and will be back as soon as I
am able. Neil

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Jonathan

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Jan 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/21/98
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Fred wrote:
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> I just sprained my ankle in a reletivly mild, over the handlebars
> crash on a steep slope. I've heard all the arguments against
> release bindings

I am under the impression that ankle injuries in snowboarding are not as
frequent with the hybrid stepin boots because they give much more ankle
support. might you be on 2 strap bindings, and in very soft boots? I am really
sorry you got hurt, and hope you recover soon, for which I recommend the
ointment called Traumeel, or also Traumed. :-)

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Duane Laviniere

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Jan 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/22/98
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Jonathan wrote:
> Fred wrote:
> >
> > I just sprained my ankle in a reletivly mild, over the handlebars
> > crash on a steep slope. I've heard all the arguments against
> > release bindings
>
> I am under the impression that ankle injuries in snowboarding are not as
> frequent with the hybrid stepin boots because they give much more ankle
> support. might you be on 2 strap bindings, and in very soft boots? I am really
> sorry you got hurt, and hope you recover soon, for which I recommend the
> ointment called Traumeel, or also Traumed. :-)

Here's a thought about why bindings aren't releasable. If they were and
you had a bad spill, if one binding were to release and the board were
to spin, the resulting torque could do a number of things. You could
get a spiral break (forget about riding for at least a year, if not
more, a badly torn knee, a broken ankle, lacerations from that
independently moving board now cutting gashes into the shin of your
other leg, etc... That is why bindings aren't releasable. A broken
ankle here or there is fine. You can ride again within the year, but a
spiral break is nasty. You're talking reconstructive surgery after they
remove all the bone fragments and fuse your leg together with pins.
Releasable bindings will mark the end of snowboarding. PEACE.

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DurangoMan

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Jan 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/22/98
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You know, releasable bindings could work. If you mounted both
bindings on a plate that mounted to the board with a releasable coupling,
both bindings would release simultaneously. This would eliminate the
danger of the kind of injury you're talking about, Duane. But such a
system would probably be bulky, heavy, and would raise you up off your
board a bit. Probably won't see that kind of system any time soon.

DurangoMan


On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Duane Laviniere wrote:

> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:37:25 -0500
> From: Duane Laviniere <lavind@[NO-SPAM]rpi.edu>
> Newsgroups: rec.skiing.snowboard
> Subject: Re: Boarding=Dangerous????

Neil McLeod

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Jan 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/24/98
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In that scenario the other foot should release as well.

Neil

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