Elan Vector 157

[dju...@hotmail.com]

Hi!

I'm new in snowboarding and I'm about to buy a new (used) snowboard. I
got offer 140$ for used Elan Vector 157 snowboard and now I want to
know is that a good deal, how good is above mentioned snowboard and is
it OK to buy used snowboard or it's better to buy a new one. (Take in
consideration money!)

Please, reply as soon as possible!! Thanks in advance!

Pictures soon!

[Christopher Cox]

First off, the priority of things:

Boots -> Bindings -> Board

In that order. I ride almost $300 boots on a piece of $%#@ $100 board
and "Do O.k.". I own a $900 board, but have more fun on my piece of &%^$.

That being said, the only info I am finding on the Elan Vector indicates
that it might be a little stiffer than most. Elan rates it as a
freestyle board which indicates it should be soft. ????

http://www.the-house.com/9856tsve7zz-247-snowboards.html

Hmmm, $149 New.

Looks like pretty standard mass manufacture construction. It has a
extruded base which will probably be soft.

[dju...@hotmail.com]

On 28 svi, 13:44, Christopher Cox

Hmmm, but that's some 24/7 mark...

This one is like this... http://www.emarket365.com/uploaded/479830786.jpg

(I don't know is there any difference...) :S

And you say I should choose in "Boots -> Bindings -> Board"
order...? :S

Damn, how could I know which one's right for me? How much should I
give for good and quality boots and bindings...?

And do you say that the board is not that important as boots and
bindings...? :S

Damn, I'm such a newbie!! :S

[dju...@hotmail.com]

+ $220 cost a new one in my country... :S

[Switters]

On Wed, 28 May 2008 16:39:07 GMT, dju...@hotmail.com allegedly wrote:

> And do you say that the board is not that important as boots and
> bindings...? :S

Definitely. If your feet hurt because the boots are rubbish, then you're
going to have a bad day. Get good fitting boots, and your day will start
well.

Also - what type of $s are you referring to?

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[dju...@hotmail.com]

> > And do you say that the board is not that important as boots and
> > bindings...? :S
>
> Definitely. If your feet hurt because the boots are rubbish, then you're
> going to have a bad day. Get good fitting boots, and your day will start
> well.

What should I take in consideration when taking boots (and bindings)
and what should determine my choice...?

> Also - what type of $s are you referring to?

US $. Anyway, I'm from Croatia... :D

[Your Mom Says]

I tend to disagree. I have some $100 boots and i broke em in and they
feel fine after time. The bindings are also mediocre. My board isnt
top of the line either, but I think it makes a big difference. I rode
one kind for a long time (stiffer and a bit heavier). Then I tried a
lighter and more flexible board and it was like a different world. So
in my opinion, the board is important...at least as important as boots
and bindings (or equally unimportant - depending how you read it).

[dju...@hotmail.com]

OK...

So, at the end, how I'm going to choose right boots, bindings and
board for me...? Where should I put priority (comfort or smth. else)?
I mean, when I get in shop how will I know and by what criteria I will
be able to determine and say: "YES, those boots (bindings, board) are
the right one for me!!"?

[Your Mom Says]

My advice...just buy bad gear...used even if you can, until you get
good. It doesnt make sence to me to spend lots of money of great gear,
when you suck. You can learn just as well on a setup that costs 200$ as
one that costs 700$. And then when you get good, and you have ruined
your board by running over stones or crashing into things, then you can
buy that expensive gear and know enough not to ruin it. But thats just
me...

[Switters]

On Thu, 29 May 2008 12:48:56 GMT, dju...@hotmail.com allegedly wrote:

>> Definitely. If your feet hurt because the boots are rubbish, then
>> you're going to have a bad day. Get good fitting boots, and your day
>> will start well.
>
> What should I take in consideration when taking boots (and bindings)
> and what should determine my choice...?

Fit, fit and then fit.

First off, take a look at the FAQ, which can be found at this location
http://www.vpas.fsnet.co.uk/rssFAQ/

It'll answer some questions for you. You can always come back with
more.

I try to fit boots at the end of the day, when the feet are bigger.
They most likely won't be comfortable, but as long as your toes are not
jammed in right at the end, and the boot fits well everywhere else. You
don't want any heel lift, and you don't want it pinching on the instep
or top of the foot.

>> Also - what type of $s are you referring to?
>
> US $. Anyway, I'm from Croatia... :D

Lucky you. Which part? I've spent many a great time on Hvar and Brac
(sorry, my keyboard doesn't have the caron).

Do you snowboard in Slovenia, or go across to the main Alps?

- Dave.

[dju...@hotmail.com]

I've got point Your Mom Says! :)

And, as for you, Switters, I come from Slavonski Brod, Slavonia... But
now I study in Zagreb, so now I'm closer to Slovenia and Alps, and I
intended to go in Slovenia (I already picked a place :D) first time I
get some more free-time...
I suppose you were here during summer (because you mentioned Brac and
Hvar) and I have to admit, I planned myself going on Hvar this summer,
as well... :D ;)

Thank you all for your help and tips how to get right equipment for
me... :) :)

:Djuro

[Bob F]

"Your Mom Says" <you...@yourhouse.com> wrote in message
news:%ez%j.781$EY4.682@llnews...

> My advice...just buy bad gear...used even if you can, until you get good. It
> doesnt make sence to me to spend lots of money of great gear, when you suck.
> You can learn just as well on a setup that costs 200$ as one that costs 700$.
> And then when you get good, and you have ruined your board by running over
> stones or crashing into things, then you can buy that expensive gear and know
> enough not to ruin it. But thats just me...

Bad equipment will definately slow learning. But then again, a beginner doesn't
want a stiff, edgy racing board. Boots with enough stiffness to allow good edge
control are helpfull. But then again, it all depends on the type of riding you
want to do.

Good lessons will help more than just about anything in the learning process.
Doing things the right way makes everything easier, with less crashes.

[Your Mom Says]

If you arent crashing, you arent doing cool enough stuff... (that prob
applies to anything in life)

[Neil Gendzwill]

If the OP is that uncertain about gear, why not just rent until he gets
a better idea of what's what? Until you get some slope time, you're not
even going to know what a proper-fitting boot feels like.

Neil

[Bob F]

"Your Mom Says" <you...@yourhouse.com> wrote in message

news:OpD%j.784$EY4.349@llnews...

There are crashes caused by pushing your limits, and crashes due to not knowing
how to initiate your turns properly. One can clearly be minimized without
slowing the learning process.

[dju...@hotmail.com]

Well... I know skiing and I'm not sure does it helps me in riding a
board... :$ (?)

I don't how about you guys, but I've just read, from local shop's
website, that renting (boots+bindings+board) costs a little more than
$20... I find it pretty expensive if you take in consideration that I
can get a board, boots OR bindings for just 3 of those rides. I mean,
it's not that I'm Rockefeller... :D
The above idea of renting got into my head as well, but I wasn't
really sure how much will it REALLY pay me out, due to pricing, and,
actually, that's the main reason why I came here for - to ask you,
pro's, for a bit of advice and help... :)
When I'm already buying something, let it be the RIGHT stuff...

And as for crashes... I fell from bicycle a day before yesterday and
almost lost my jaw. Lucky for me, I got thru just with few future
scars and lot of scratches... :D

[Bob F]

<dju...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e45f6e67-c5db-47f8...@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

One of the differences in riding is that you can control the edges changes
differently from the front to the back of the board. You can actually twist the
board, so that the front of the board releases the edge, while the back of the
board edge is still engaged. Learning to do this early in your learning process
will help make your turns much more reliable, with much less chance of catching
an edge and crashing.

If you get a really good deal on used equipment, it's not a bad way to start.
Actually, I've never bought a new board, and I've had a lot of good riding. I
did get a new pair of boots, but they were $20 at a thrift shop. A lucky find.

[Your Mom Says]

I think renting at least once is a good idea for the following
reason...I have found some near free boards and other gear from people
who bought the stuff without knowing what they were getting into, hated
it (or better sucked at it and didnt want to persevere), and sold off
their new stuff for cheap. So, 1. you wanna make sure you enjoy it
before investing $300+ and 2. maybe you can benefit from some other
knucklehead who wasted his money in this way.

[dju...@hotmail.com]

Well, the board from the title, Elan Vector 157 (http://
www.surfmania.net/images/stories/snowboarding/thumbs/Vector157-3.jpg)
IS a used one... :D