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Jeffrey Watson

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May 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/26/95
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I would like to get some roller skis for skating. It seems to me that
the models with the inline skate wheels would simulate on-snow
technique better than the models with rubber wheels. However, besides
crashing into the pavement, I just don't see how you stop. Does
anyone have any tips?

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Jeff Watson Hewlett-Packard Company
Product Design Engineer Integrated Circuits Business Div - Corvallis
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Al Bowers

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May 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/26/95
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Jeff Watson:

>I would like to get some roller skis for skating. It seems to me that
>the models with the inline skate wheels would simulate on-snow
>technique better than the models with rubber wheels. However, besides
>crashing into the pavement, I just don't see how you stop. Does
>anyone have any tips?

Snow plow works only on the gentlest of grades. Dragging a pole of a
ski in the grass along the road edge also works (if you have a route
that does this for you). And V2 have their wonderful line of brakes.
Otherwise, you are stuck.

Al Bowers ...with 4 inches of fresh snow in local mtns...

David L. Webb

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May 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/27/95
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In article <3q51tr$c...@hpcvca.cv.hp.com>, wat...@cv.hp.com (Jeffrey
Watson) wrote:

>I would like to get some roller skis for skating. It seems to me that
>the models with the inline skate wheels would simulate on-snow
>technique better than the models with rubber wheels. However, besides
>crashing into the pavement, I just don't see how you stop. Does
>anyone have any tips?
>

>--
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>Jeff Watson Hewlett-Packard Company
>Product Design Engineer Integrated Circuits Business Div - Corvallis
>e-mail: wat...@cv.hp.com fax: (503)715-2145 phone: (503)715-4381
>________________________________________________________________________

Both 900 series and 700 series of Jenex V2 rollerskis can be equipped
with brakes and/or speed reducers. The speed reducers can be clicked on
(in one of three different settings) to slow descents of steep hills, or
for resistance work -- on the slowest setting, they will barely roll.
They can't be used to stop once you've picked up speed (you have to bend
forward and click them on BEFORE beginning the descent), but they can be
used (with forethought) to keep speed from building on steep, blind
descents; they work very well. If you need to be able to stop quickly
once you've built up speed (for instance, if you rollerski in traffic),
you might want to consider the brake instead. I've never tried it, but
I'm told that it also works quite well. The brake is activated by pulling
a cable that runs up the back of your calf to about the knee. It exerts
pressure on the wheel, rather than scraping the pavement. The 700 and 900
series V2s are rubber-wheeled rollerskis, but don't hold that against them
-- with the new narrower wheels they really perform superbly, and they're
slower than most of the skis with inline wheels (significantly slower than
most). They're great skis, especially for classic, but for skating as
well with the new wheels.
If you want a rollerski with inline wheels (and admittedly it's a
better bet from the standpoint of wheel wear), you might want to consider
the SISU skis, which also have a brake. However, it's a bit different --
it uses friction with the pavement rather than with the wheel to stop,
rather like the brakes on most inline skates. It's not as effective as
the V2 brake in executing a quick stop, but it can be used to moderate
your speed.
Probably the best bet, if you ski in places which might call for a
quick stop (e. g., descents where cars can pull in unexpectedly from a
side road, or where there's a stop sign at the bottom of the hill), is
simply to do tight slalom-style turns to keep your speed down, so that if
something comes up, you can just run out on the shoulder. If in doubt,
take off your skis and walk down.
Good luck,
David Webb

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David....@Dartmouth.Edu

Kenneth Salzberg

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May 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/27/95
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On 26 May 1995, Jeffrey Watson wrote:

> I would like to get some roller skis for skating. It seems to me that
> the models with the inline skate wheels would simulate on-snow
> technique better than the models with rubber wheels. However, besides
> crashing into the pavement, I just don't see how you stop. Does
> anyone have any tips?

Well . . . - Stopping on Roller Skis? The only effitive way I know to
stop, at all quickly is to run off on the side of the road (one hopes
that the side is smooth grass). The technique involves putting one ski
well ahead of the other and putting most of your weight onthe _back_ ski
initially. that way if you come to a stop quicker than you planned to
you can (will have to ) shift to the forward ski. This also involves a
lot of practice. It my not work. You may crash.
Of course if you are moving slowly, you can do a not too
effictive version of the snow-plow to slow down.
Good Luck

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Kenneth Salzberg ksal...@seq.hamline.edu
Hamline University (612)641-2354
School of Law Fax (612) 641-2236
1536 Hewitt Ave. Sisu Skier
St. Paul, MN 55104
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Scott Greene

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May 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/29/95
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The SISU Enduro ski and the SISU 2000 have brakes that are engaged
by a cord. The Enduro ski comes with a high top boot so you don't wreck
your snow boots. The brake contacts the ground, not the wheels.
In addition, the wheel types can be changed and fine tuned so that
you can simulate skiing in really slow conditions or fast conditions.
The major drawback in my opinion is that you can not use these skis for
classical technique (unless you just double pole).
Regards,
Scott
gre...@cae.wisc.edu

In reply to the two previous posts below:
In article <950526182...@wilbur.dfrc.nasa.gov>, bow...@wilbur.dfrc.nasa.gov (Al Bowers) writes:
> Jeff Watson:


> >I would like to get some roller skis for skating. It seems to me that
> >the models with the inline skate wheels would simulate on-snow
> >technique better than the models with rubber wheels. However, besides
> >crashing into the pavement, I just don't see how you stop. Does
> >anyone have any tips?
>

Lars Hagglund

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Jun 1, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/1/95
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In article <3q51tr$c...@hpcvca.cv.hp.com>, wat...@cv.hp.com (Jeffrey
Watson) wrote:

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> However, besides
>crashing into the pavement, I just don't see how you stop. Does
>anyone have any tips?
>

How do you stop when you ski on snow!! Try the same with rollers.
But be carefull until you know how to do.

/Lars

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Philip Nelson

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Jun 1, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/1/95
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In reply to the two previous posts below:
> In article <950526182...@wilbur.dfrc.nasa.gov>, bow...@wilbur.dfrc.nasa.gov (Al Bowers) writes:
> > Jeff Watson:
> > >I would like to get some roller skis for skating. It seems to me that
> > >the models with the inline skate wheels would simulate on-snow
> > >technique better than the models with rubber wheels. However, besides

> > >crashing into the pavement, I just don't see how you stop. Does
> > >anyone have any tips?

I have been learning to do a "T drag" where you hold one ski behing you
at 90 degrees and glide on one foot. Unnerving at first but works well once
you've got the hang of it. Best to start before you've picked up speed though.

_Philip Nelson

Bradler2

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Jul 1, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/1/95
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I use a modified pavement plow stop on my Pro Skis. By increasing the
pressure on the bearings by slowly wedging the two front wheels and
pushing out, ala a snowplow, I can effectively reduce my speed. Another
method is to step turn quickly so that you can face back up hill before
gaining too much momentum. If you really want to challenge steep hills
with manky run outs, buy a pair of V2's with speed reducers and/or brakes.

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