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How to remove Salomon SNS Profil binding?

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jeff potter

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Feb 9, 2009, 4:07:01 PM2/9/09
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I have a set of skis with the Salomon SNS Profil manual bindings on
them. Skate model.

What's a good way to remove them?

I see what looks like a plug at the rear of the heel plate but they're
not easily removed. I can keep trying.

I've removed the rubber bumpers. The plastic "S" snap-cover in the
front-center of the binding, over the front-center screw, doesn't seem
to want to come off. Do I just work a screwdriver under the front edge
somehow?

How do I expose the 2 side-screws? I don't see how to release the
"bail" so that it can flip out of the way.

Help? Links?

Thanks, JP

ADK Skier

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Feb 9, 2009, 6:43:00 PM2/9/09
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Jeff,
I've removed tons of these bindings. It really doesn't take rocket
science. Most of the time I can get my Swiss Army knife to remove the
plug in the back. Hold it vertically and run it around the plug as you
work it up. I have also used a real small drill bit and drilled a hole
in it and they ride up the drill bit. The S cap in the front comes up
really easy with the edge of my Swiss Army knife. Get the blade under
it and pry up. Than I take my knife and work it from the back of the
binding plate to the front. Be careful on this move with the knife.
Just get the knife under the plate and work free the glue tape. Don't
pry up but move the knife along. This works every time. Hard to
beleive you've never taken one of these off after all the knowlege and
experience you have.

runcyc...@yahoo.com

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Feb 9, 2009, 7:45:52 PM2/9/09
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Snap off the plastic thing, and you will see the main screw.

Note that Solmon screws are not phillips, even though they look like a
regular cross, and they are made of hardenned steal. Cheapo
screwdriviers almost definitely will get stripped (if your ski shop
mounted the bindgins faithfully). I would get a badass screwdriver, or
better yet, get a specialized Salomon screwdriver

ED3

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Feb 9, 2009, 8:34:06 PM2/9/09
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<runcyc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I believe that's a pozi-drive screw head you're referring to;...maybe a
#3...if the screws are sealed with epoxy, warming them will soften the
epoxy's bond.


ge...@none.net

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Feb 9, 2009, 8:56:35 PM2/9/09
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Where do you find a posidrive? I looked around a few months ago and
failed.

Gene

rboa...@yahoo.com

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Feb 9, 2009, 9:14:57 PM2/9/09
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On Feb 9, 6:56 pm, g...@none.net wrote:
> Where do you find a posidrive?  I looked around a few months ago and
> failed.
>
> Gene
>
> "ED3" <x...@qwest.not> wrote:
>
> > <runcyclexc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> >news:65258c1f-b1f9-4d36...@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> > > Snap off the plastic thing, and you will see the main screw.
>
> > > Note that Solmon screws are not phillips, even though they look like a
> > > regular cross, and they are made of hardenned steal. Cheapo
> > > screwdriviers almost definitely will get stripped (if your ski shop
> > > mounted the bindgins faithfully). I would get a badass screwdriver, or
> > > better yet, get a specialized Salomon screwdriver
>
> > I believe that's a pozi-drive screw head you're referring to;...maybe a
> > #3...if the screws are sealed with epoxy, warming them will soften the
> > epoxy's bond.

Tornar Toolworks: http://www.tognar.com

rboa...@yahoo.com

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Feb 9, 2009, 9:17:05 PM2/9/09
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I meant Tognar

John Forrest Tomlinson

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Feb 9, 2009, 10:05:25 PM2/9/09
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On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:56:35 -0700, ge...@none.net wrote:

>Where do you find a posidrive? I looked around a few months ago and
>failed.

Alpine ski shops often sell them. And a few other places -- here's an
example

http://www.reliableracing.com/category2.cfm?category=2600&header=BINDING%20TOOLS(POSIDRIVER)

ge...@none.net

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Feb 10, 2009, 1:20:05 AM2/10/09
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ED3

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Feb 10, 2009, 8:15:40 AM2/10/09
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Maybe not Homer's depot, but a good hardware store, or tool supply house
will at least have bits; a good addition to one's wax box. I don't recall
seeing a binding screw that wasn't driven by a #3 pozidrive/posidrive.
ED3
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highpeaksnordic

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Feb 10, 2009, 8:50:07 AM2/10/09
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On Feb 9, 4:07 pm, jeff potter <j...@outyourbackdoor.com> wrote:
> I have a set of skis with the Salomon SNS Profil manual bindings
> What's a good way to remove them?

You've gotten a lot of good advice already. We have a more direct
approach for the plastic cap at the tail end of the binding baseplate
- take a very small straight-blade screwdriver and stand it straight
up in the molded slot, rap sharply and drive the blade straight thru,
then pry it up. You can reuse it, we throw it out and replace w/ a
new one when the binding is remounted.

The screws are # 3 Pozi-Drive, many shops sell the screwdrivers, many
hardware stores also sell Vermont American bits for 1/4" magnetic bit
holders which we chuck into battery operated drills and yes, we always
adjust the clutch settings on them.

One thing not mentioned is what happens to the holes left over in the
ski. We always plug them w/ the proper sized plastic plug from an
assortment we have. The hole is glued, plug tapped into the ski and
lightly sanded flush w/ the topsheet. Of course, if the holes are re-
used they are glued again before sending the screws home.

- Bob

jeff potter

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Feb 10, 2009, 9:19:49 AM2/10/09
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I've only installed one set of SNS Profil autos (for my wife). Never
removed them. Used NNN otherwise for decades.

I still haven't heard about how to get at the 2 side-screws. I can't
even see them. ? They appear to be hidden under the pivoting metal
shell cover---I don't see how to pivot it to expose the heads.

jeff potter

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Feb 10, 2009, 10:18:10 AM2/10/09
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PS: Ah, ha. I dug into it. Here's what's really going on with this
binding type. The white "cap" over at the rear of the heel plate is
NOT a cap at all. It's a one-use barbed-plug-rivet thingy. There is NO
screw under it. So you do not really just pry it up. You pry at it but
your efforts are pulling it out of THE SKI. It has a "barb" on the end
to prevent you from doing this. So eventually this item BREAKS OFF,
leaving its barb inside the ski. Terrible design, so it seems. How to
reinstall the binding onto another ski? YOU CANNOT. You MUST acquire
another undamaged white plug-rivet. Where? Who knows. Nonstandard
item. I suppose a local shop might have some around. It might be
outdated for all I know. These are somewhat older bindings. I can't
imagine such a method lasting more than one design cycle. Ugh.

Anyway, then you lift off the heel plate section-chunk and pull it to
the rear and off of the front part of the binding and the side screws
are exposed. Now we're back in familiar territory and I expect no
further difficulties...

--JP

jeff potter

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Feb 10, 2009, 10:53:16 AM2/10/09
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PPS: I removed the other barbed-plug out without breaking it, but it's
a bit marred and "vexed". I'm not sure I'd want to re-use it (or
resell it). They don't appear designed to be reusable. Oh well! --JP

runcyc...@yahoo.com

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Feb 10, 2009, 4:08:39 PM2/10/09
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Jeff,

When I install SNS bindings, I through that stupid white plug away and
put a regular screw instead. So even if the plug got damaged when you
pull it out, just repace it with a regular screw. The newer pilot
bindings abandended the plug design altogether (I wonder what the
rationale for using the stupid plug was...)

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2ste...@gmail.com

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Feb 16, 2015, 12:41:47 AM2/16/15
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This is how I removed my Salomon Profil SNS Alpine cross country ski bindings. I popped off the rear (heel) plastic white cap (3/8" diameter) with a Swiss knife blade and removed the screw below it, I used a number 2 (red) Robertson bit (Canada). Slide the white plate to the rear and off exposing the next screw, remove it and slide off the 2nd white plate to the rear exposing 2 edge (side) screws. Remove them. Next the front (black plastic cap) needs to come off to expose the final screw that holds down the binding for the toe of the boot. Press all the way down on the square release button, hold it down while inserting a flat screwdriver between the black cap and the blue plastic that houses the orange rubber toe bumper. The blue cap should pop up and hinge toward the front of the ski exposing the last screw to be removed.

je...@outyourbackdoor.com

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