xc pants??
G.Reif
trails and some backcountry) and would like to know the most economical
choice of what to wear instead of cotton (i.e.: cotton kills) jeans. Maybe
surplus wools/poly pants?
Maybe one of the many athletic type things that I am hoping someone will
name for me?
jobro
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I'm a fan of wind pants of any variety - those that are made for xc,
bicycling, running, or misc Sam's Club specials. Although, really, any kind
will do for touring, I personally like wind pants or jackets designed for XC
skiing or bicycling the best. They just seem to be cut better and are more
comfortable for skiing than pants made for running or hiking.
What I like is that they can be infinitely adjusted for temp because you can
wear them over anything ranging from nothing, to light or heavy polypro long
underwear, tights, or heavy pile pants. Heck, you could even wear them
over your jeans or sweat pants and no one would know! (except for you when
they bind up and get wet or otherwise uncomfortable). Wind pants are light
weight, shed snow, dry immediately, cut the wind (which I like because even
if it's warm and still, there's wind in XC skiing when you go downhill).
I went XC skiing in Norway for a couple of weeks last spring and it seemed
everyone was wearing normal athletic-type (e.g. Nike or Addidas) two piece
wind suits for touring (or shopping at the mall). For the most part, only
the serious trainers/racers wore actual dedicated nordic wear.
Dan Johnson
G.Reif
Gary
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jobro
> What are wind pants made out of?
> Gary
Nylon and such - material that keeps the wind from blowing through your
clothes.
DJ
Edgar
SportHill's "XC Pant" and similar "XC Cross Pant" (no ankle zipper)
are a great choice for trail skiing and even backcountry. Their 3SP
fabric is quite wind resistant with adequate insulation for XC skiing
into the -10C or lower temperature range. (www.SportHill.com)
My other alternative is Patagonia R1 Pants under a SportHill wind
shell pant. this alternative to the one piece SportHill XC Pant is
more versitile in that wicking light weight or medium weight long
underwear can be added, or the wind pant can be removed to add
insulation, or increase cooling.
I like my Patagonia R1 Zip top with or without a windshell (an old
Sunbuster anorak).
Edgar
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Peter Clinch
>
> I am ready to get something other than jeans for skiing this year (casual
> trails and some backcountry) and would like to know the most economical
> choice of what to wear instead of cotton (i.e.: cotton kills) jeans. Maybe
> surplus wools/poly pants?
I just wear runners' training tights/pants. If it's chilly put a pair
of longjohns underneath (polypro or similar), though I rarely bother.
As well as not holding moisture like cotton, they allow far more freedom
of movement so are much more comfortable.
Pete.
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BruceFreeburger
Let me also support the Sporthill 3SP pants. For a breathable fabric they
do a great job of damping (not blocking) the wind. You don't need much in long
johns. They have real pockets. They are so comfortable I just change by
removing the long johns and wear the pants alone for the drive home. I have the
jacket, which also has real pockets, and the Explorer top. Both are also made
of 3SP. The Explorer top has no pockets and Powerdry side panels. It's more
aerobic than the jacket.
When Jeff Potter finally buys a pair at XCHQ or The Shop, he will stop his
annual querry for good XC pants <Grin>.
Cheers,
Bruce
In article <2199ac3c.0111...@posting.google.com>, ej...@juno.com
(Edgar) writes:
>Subject: Re: xc pants??
>From: ej...@juno.com (Edgar)
>Date: 25 Nov 2001 20:44:52 -0800
>
>Hello,
>
>SportHill's "XC Pant" and similar "XC Cross Pant" (no ankle zipper)
>are a great choice for trail skiing and even backcountry. Their 3SP
>fabric is quite wind resistant with adequate insulation for XC skiing
>into the -10C or lower temperature range. (www.SportHill.com)
>
>My other alternative is Patagonia R1 Pants under a SportHill wind
>shell pant. this alternative to the one piece SportHill XC Pant is
>more versitile in that wicking light weight or medium weight long
>underwear can be added, or the wind pant can be removed to add
>insulation, or increase cooling.
>
>I like my Patagonia R1 Zip top with or without a windshell (an old
>Sunbuster anorak).
>
>Edgar
>
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Jeff Potter
> Folks,
> Let me also support the Sporthill 3SP pants. For a breathable fabric they
> When Jeff Potter finally buys a pair at XCHQ or The Shop, he will stop his
> annual querry for good XC pants <Grin>.
Do they come in a nice brown or forest green with accent piping? Dark
red? Nifty blue? If so, they sound great! Oh, they only come in black
or navy-black...bummer. Black...what a nordic color, eh? Reminds me of
forests and snowflakes....I think they must get the black from our
nordic heritage.... Not. Ugh. I bet they work great, they just look
bad. --JP
Jonathan Scheuch
like to ski in. Mine are from REI, but I know other people make pants out
of the same fabric. They are warm, breath well, stetch well and are tightly
woven enough to block a good portion of the wind. Don't need longjohns
underneath.
Jonathan Scheuch
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BruceFreeburger
There has been some green Sporthill in the past, maybe when they still had
Bill Koch's name on them. They now have red and yellow panels on some tops. See
what XCHQ or The Shop has. XCHQ has been a few dollars cheaper.
Cheers,
Bruce
In article <c94aca2f.01112...@posting.google.com>,
j...@outyourbackdoor.com (Jeff Potter) writes:
>> When Jeff Potter finally buys a pair at XCHQ or The Shop, he will stop
>his
>> annual querry for good XC pants <Grin>.
>
>Do they come in a nice brown or forest green with accent piping? Dark
>red? Nifty blue? If so, they sound great! Oh, they only come in black
>or navy-black...bummer. Black...what a nordic color, eh? Reminds me of
>forests and snowflakes....I think they must get the black from our
>nordic heritage.... Not. Ugh. I bet they work great, they just look
>bad. --JP
>
Gene Goldenfeld
the local surplus store will do. However, I've found a good pair
of pants worth the extra money. After using Sporthill's 3SP XC
pant for quite awhile, I settled on the Voyage pant and ski
almost all the time now in them (they're also good for cooler
weather rollerskiing). It's rated 28-55 degrees, but with
thermals I've worn it comfortably under zero degrees. It is a
loose fitting pant and has long ankle zips, which makes it easy
to take on and off, and much more so than the 3SP models. Side
pockets don't have zippers, which is the only drawback I've
found. They dry very quickly. Retail is about $65.
Gene Goldenfeld
Jeff Potter
wide variety of appropriate nordic fashion from yesteryear and scandiland.
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Tim Dudley
used in those sports?
ralph
techno revolution hit mountaineering and climbing as it did XC skiing. The
only place I've seen knickers (beside in my drawer of old gear) is in golf
where a few are wearing retro stuff.
Ralph Thornton
Jeff Potter
ago. You'd think some stylish climbers might still be out there wearing nice cold
weather colors for climbing in, say....Scandinavia! : )
Here's a funny one: in the mid 80's I lived in downtown Boulder. I recall a scary
character that used to lurk about the area. I thought he was a transvestite
homeless person. They grew em wild in Boulder. He hung out wherever I saw him in
wild clashing lycra tights and seemed grubby and had fingernail polish, earrings.
Foppish LA-glam-rock-plus-bed-head hairdo. At that point the sports people still
mainly changed into street wear for street life even if they wore lycra in
sports. This guy seemed totally 'out' and behaved oddly, walked funny, seemed
drugged like so many there do. He was skinny but seemed drugs-skinny. Turns out
he was just about the top climber of the period. I thought I knew posing but man
I didn't even recognize this off the charts posing. He was the real McCoy of
"total attitude." And I even knew some top climbers, too. --JP