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Tom Taylor

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Mar 19, 2003, 6:30:57 AM3/19/03
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Does anybody know where I might find plans for a home made waxing bench?
Is there any great advantage to a two ski vs a one ski bench?

Thanks,
Tom

Gene Goldenfeld

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Mar 19, 2003, 10:54:02 AM3/19/03
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See, e.g.,
http://home.attbi.com/~markowitz/WAM-XC/images/waxtable1.gif. Also do a
google.com advanced groups search under rsn.

Gene

Mike

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Mar 19, 2003, 1:59:53 PM3/19/03
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The ultimate wax bench:

http://www.nordicskiracer.com/Equipment/WaxBench1.asp

Mike

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Taywood

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Mar 19, 2003, 2:27:29 PM3/19/03
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Tom Taylor wrote:
> Does anybody know where I might find plans for a home made waxing
> bench? Is there any great advantage to a two ski vs a one ski bench?

Where would you propose to use it, at home or in a car park
at the ski centre?


Chris Cline

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Mar 19, 2003, 3:26:55 PM3/19/03
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It's not just a bench-- it's a way of life!
nice set-up!

Chris

--- Mike <mm...@umi.com> wrote:
> The ultimate wax bench:
>
>
http://www.nordicskiracer.com/Equipment/WaxBench1.asp
>
> Mike
>
> "Tom Taylor" <t...@ultranet.com> wrote in message
> news:<scOcnQHRpbt...@comcast.com>...

> > Does anybody know where I might find plans for a
> home made waxing bench?
> > Is there any great advantage to a two ski vs a one
> ski bench?
> >

> > Thanks,
> > Tom
>
>
>
>


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Tom Taylor

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Mar 19, 2003, 6:04:17 PM3/19/03
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I guess what I'm looking for is a waxing profile.
I was thinking of a couple of 2x6's in an upside down T with a clamp in the
middle too hold the ski.
I've got a general idea of how the profile that the ski sits on should look.
I was hoping to find a "Standard" profile that would work well for different
nordic skis.

Thanks again
Tom

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Chris Cline

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Mar 20, 2003, 12:51:58 AM3/20/03
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Hi Tom-
Here's what I did:
Took my longest pair of classic skis and held them
against a 2x6 while I traced the profile of the
top-sheet

Drew a cut-out in the area of the bindings (toe to
heel), then extended it 3-4" on either end of the
binding area to make sure the cut-out was big enough
to accomodate all my skis

Verified that the profile would work for skis of
varying lengths, and classic vs. skate.

Cut the profile by hand with a jugsaw. (while I
wished I had a good bandsaw and a helper...)

Smoothed the profile with a belt-sander

Engineered a clamp assembly using various bits of
hardware (don't even ask me to explain that one-- but
I could probably fax you a diagram of what I built if
you can't come up with something on your own.

Attached "L" brackets to the highest parts of the
profile (1 front, 1 rear). I then clamp the other leg
of the L to my workbench with quick clamps.

The profile is a little narrow, but the clamp holds
the ski on straight pretty well. I thought about
gluing 2 2x6's together before I did the cutting, but
figured it would be too wide. If you wanted to go to
a mill or cabinet shop and plane it down to the right
width after you cut it, that would work.

Also, it's about 200 cm long, so it's not exactly
"compact". However all the hardware comes off, so I
have transported it on airplanes by wrapping it in a
sheet (or ski clothes) and putting it in my ski bag
with my skis. It makes the ski bag a bit heavier, and
"may" provide some protection from the airport baggage
manglers. At least I haven't had any broken skis yet.

Hope this powers up some light bulbs for ya-
Chris Cline
SLC

Daniel Vargo

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Mar 20, 2003, 7:52:00 AM3/20/03
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New England Nordic used to have plans on their site. Ithink its
www.nensa.com.

Dan Vargo

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Rob Bradlee

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Mar 20, 2003, 8:51:09 AM3/20/03
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nensa.net


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Mitch Collinsworth

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Mar 20, 2003, 9:30:49 AM3/20/03
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On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Chris Cline wrote:

> Also, it's about 200 cm long, so it's not exactly
> "compact". However all the hardware comes off, so I
> have transported it on airplanes by wrapping it in a
> sheet (or ski clothes) and putting it in my ski bag
> with my skis. It makes the ski bag a bit heavier, and
> "may" provide some protection from the airport baggage
> manglers. At least I haven't had any broken skis yet.

Just anecdotal but my experience has been that mass is good.
If your ski bag is too heavy to be picked up and thrown, then
they will have to carry it rather than throwing it. Of course
when adding mass to a ski bag one needs to make sure the more
brittle objects in the bag are somehow protected from the more
massy objects. But that's what dirty laundry and duct tape
(if you can find any) are good for...

-Mitch


Mike

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Mar 20, 2003, 12:38:37 PM3/20/03
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Tom, what Chris does below is EXACTLY what I did for my first wax bench. Work well.

Here are some other ideas that I've seen that extend/modify Chris's description:

- Folding wax bench: Cut the wax bench in half,
put a hinge on one side and a hook on the other.
Fits in the trunk...

- Use blocks of wood and a bike quick release
for the clamp. The blocks of wood hold the ski,
the quick release holds to blocks together.
find a spring that goes over the skewer to push
the blocks apart. (That make sense?)

- screw on some short lengths of 1x2 toward each end
on the bottom of the profile. One screw in the
center of the 1x2. You can then turn the
1x2's perpendicular to the profile to support the
profile on a table when you travel; turn them
parallel to the profile for traveling. Better:
cut out the bottom of the profile so the 1x2's
don't stick below the profile.

- I have friends who have put legs on their home-made
profiles. Don't ask me how...

- This is easier drawn than told...


Mike

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Nathan Schultz

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Mar 20, 2003, 12:45:55 PM3/20/03
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A note about weight and traveling: All of the airlines have changed
their policies on luggage weights. It used to be that anything under 75lbs
was OK, but now anything over 50 lbs gets a $25 charge each way. Anything
over 100lbs is $50. I know United and Northwest are doing this, and I think
the rest are following.

-Nathan

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George Cleveland

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Mar 20, 2003, 1:23:30 PM3/20/03
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Here's a link showing what, basically, what these fellows are describing.:

http://canada.x-c.com/coaching/Technical/waxbench.htm

g.c.

John O'Connell

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Mar 20, 2003, 3:46:17 PM3/20/03
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After many trips traveling with ski benches, forms etc this last year I
bought the Swix XC caplock system. While I would not use it for serious base
peeling it is just fine for waxing, both kick and glide and rilling. Weighs
about a pound and fits in a box about half the size of a shoe box.

At the Birke this year we had a bench set up free standing and the caplock
system set up on a table in our condo and most of the time we used the
caplock.

If you are going to travel it is a pretty good way to go

John OC


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Bob Maswick

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Mar 20, 2003, 3:56:10 PM3/20/03
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> nensa.net
> --- Daniel Vargo <daniel...@hsc.utah.edu> wrote:
> > New England Nordic used to have plans on their site.


I've never been able to find these plans on the NENSA site - any help?

I've built a lot of profiles over the years, mostly out of 2x lumber.
Almost all of them have warped and twisted badly, so that they needed
to be trued up w/ my plane.

The slickest profile I've seen recently was laminated from lengths of
3/4 plywood and then bandsawn to the correct profile - dimensionally
stable in all directions in all weather conditions.

I used to have two profiles together on a table (made from an old
ironing board - works great!) but my double roto-brush set-up would
hit the other ski. I now use just one profile.

- Bob

Fitzgerald

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Mar 20, 2003, 4:36:32 PM3/20/03
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Go to www.nensa.net and click on Pictures, scroll down and click on Wax.
Fitzgerald
NH


Jerome Croteau

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Mar 21, 2003, 10:11:30 AM3/21/03
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"Tom Taylor" <t...@ultranet.com> wrote in message news:<scOcnQHRpbt...@comcast.com>...

Follow this link to pictures of a profile I recently built:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/caron.croteau/profile.htm

Assembled, it screws or clamp to a workbench. When you take it apart
(4 carriage bolts with wingnuts), you can pack the wood pieces in your
luggage and the lightweight aluminum profile in your ski bag.

JC

Jim Farrell

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Mar 21, 2003, 10:37:55 AM3/21/03
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Jerome Croteau wrote:

>
>
> Follow this link to pictures of a profile I recently built:
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/caron.croteau/profile.htm
>
> Assembled, it screws or clamp to a workbench. When you take it apart
> (4 carriage bolts with wingnuts), you can pack the wood pieces in your
> luggage and the lightweight aluminum profile in your ski bag.
>
> JC

I'd like to see your rig, but I cannot view your pictures either with
mozilla or IE. no plug-in suggested . . .

Jim Farrell

Justin F. Knotzke

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Mar 21, 2003, 11:34:58 AM3/21/03
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In article <3E7B31D3...@qwest.net>, Jim Farrell wrote:

> Jerome Croteau wrote:
>
> I'd like to see your rig, but I cannot view your pictures either with
> mozilla or IE. no plug-in suggested . . .

When he created his HTML using FrontPage he didn't translate the URL
to the images correctly:

<img src="file:///C:/My%20Documents/Jerome/ski/support%20skis/complet.jpg"

You might want to change them to:

<img src=http://www3.sympatico.ca/caron.croteau/complet.jpg"

..etc

I hope that helps. ;)

J.

--
Justin F. Knotzke
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Jerome Croteau

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Mar 21, 2003, 12:55:19 PM3/21/03
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Jim Farrell <jefa...@qwest.net> wrote in message news:<3E7B31D3...@qwest.net>...

I fixed the links to the images. Should now work...

JC

Chris Cline

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Mar 21, 2003, 1:02:14 PM3/21/03
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> Here's a link showing what, basically, what these
> fellows are describing.:
>
>
http://canada.x-c.com/coaching/Technical/waxbench.htm
>
> g.c.
>
>
>

No offense taken, and slightly off-topic, but just for
general information, I'm not a "fellow". Can't speak
for the other guy, though ;- )

Chris(tine) Cline
SLC, UT

Chris Cline

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Mar 21, 2003, 1:13:38 PM3/21/03
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Yeah, I gotta admit that my spiffy little profile that
I wrote about is just a bit twisted. It's built of
walnut (because that's what I had lying around when I
finally got in the mood to build the thing), so it's
pretty good, but you could easily have more problems
with pine 2x6's.

I think the laminated plywood is a great idea, and you
can make it whatever width you want. Particle-board
would also be pretty warp-proof, but I think it's
heavier.

Chris

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