Madshus TXC 232 Classic Dry Snow
Stuart Goldsmith
-Stuart
Carri Forsberg
several pair and wouldn't trade them for anything. I have tried all the
brands and none compare to the Madshus. The one exception is on
extremely hardpack conditions, in which I find the Atomics are a more
stable ski. If you get the chance to demo a pair of Madshus and other
brands at the same time you will see what I'm talking about.
Good Luck,
Carri
kim o'connell
bought 232s. They're the top of the line Madshus World Cup series of
skis, the same ones that Alsgaard uses. The fluoro is part of the
base, they've got the triax construction, and they should be absolutely
gorgeous to ski on.
You can check the Madshus web site at
http://www.sportdinacocorp.com/madshus/99PRODS.htm
Tim
Tim Dudley
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Tim
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Stuart Goldsmith
sure these are the right stiffness; they're rated for someone in th
74-81 Kg range, but I'm only about 68Kg. However, the store where I
bought them (REI) stuck them in some sort of machine with me standing
on them to measure the wax pocket, and according to the sales people,
they fit well. There is an independent ski technician out here who I
can take them to for a follow-up assessment - then I'll decide whether
to keep them. Of course the longer I stare at them, the less likely it
is I will return them...
Chris
Hey, I caughta mention of "some sort of machine" they used at REI to
assess the flex fit of skis-- do you know anything more about it, like
the name of it?
Just curious-- it sounds like the type of gee-whiz gizmo that other
shops might use to fit skis (if you can't hire people who know what
they're talking about (they would cost too much), buy a machine). It
would be good for the members of the group to know more about this.
Chris Cline
SLC, UT
65 degrees in SLC on thanksgiving-- sheesh!
W Scott Elliot
than too stiff. Trying to climb with too stiff a ski is just not fun.
With Madshus skis I've tested the marking on the ski is usually not too far
wrong. No company or testing machine is perfect though.
Good luck
Scott
Stuart Goldsmith wrote in message <365cf6ac...@news.accessone.com>...
RalphCT
are many, many nordic skiers here.
Ralph Thornton
erik brooks
If memory serves, you, like me are in the Seattle area. Do I
recall correctly?
I've bought 2 pairs of the Madshus Lillehammer skate skis. I
got one of the pairs at REI in Seattle. Occasionally at REI you
can connect with someone that really knows the product that
they are selling. Mostly you are talking to a salesperson that
may know some other products, but not the product that you
want to buy. That's always the case when I look there for
nordic stuff.
But in their defense, they are VERY good about taking
gear back and giving full refunds. I ride a bike to work, and
I wear one of those yellow "Don't hit me!" jackets. It was looking
a bit tacky, so I went to REI to buy another one. While looking
at a new one, I remarked to another customer that the new one
did not have a little design flaw that my current one (that I was
wearing at the moment) had. An REI employee overheard me
and told me to go to the service dept, and they would give me
a full refund for the jacket. I'd worn it at least 300 times, and it
was none too clean at the time. I doubted that they would give
a refund in this case (no receipt either), but what the heck, an
employee told me to try. So I did talk to the service dept, and
they did indeed give me a full refund. I left with a brand new
jacket, and a clean one to boot. I'm a satisfied customer.
More to the point, I've heard that they will take back skis if
you decide that they don't work for you. You should check with
them whether that is truly the case. If it is, it's pretty much a
no risk deal for you.
And, Stuart, if you are in Seattle, why are you choosing the dry snow
model?
Erik Brooks
JP
doublepole glide. It's the uphills that make the ski day. That make
XC what it is! If you miss a kick, you bum-out your day. Billy Koch
invented the stiff ski and no one has been able to use it since.
Whatever, softer is better. I used to beat stronger guys by minutes
just coz I had softer skis (and softer wax!). They worred about
glide. I made sure I could ski. I won. Keep yourself smiling and
go soft. Also consider how much skiing you do after you yourself
are 'softened' up. When you're a little bit tired, you'll miss kicks
on stiffies. If I miss a kick I'm sad. If I miss 3 my tendons are
sore the next day. Missing kicks causes INJURY.
(---Unless you got the extra money for a set of klister skis.
That's the only time you need a stiff ski.)
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Stuart Goldsmith
on them yet! I've got that feeling that you gotta be a really good
skier to be able to ski on skis at the limit of one's weight range. I
also don't necessarily trust the sale folks at REI for their
technical knowledge of nordic skis, and I'm not sure the particular
sales person that "tested" me on the flex machine knew how to use it
properly - they just got it this year. Unfortunately, these were on
sale for half price and I know they don't have any at my length in a
less stiff camber.
-Stuart
On Thu, 26 Nov 1998 19:41:43 -0800, "W Scott Elliot"
<sel...@direct.ca> wrote:
>I'd be really careful on those. With classic skis I'd rather have too soft
>than too stiff. Trying to climb with too stiff a ski is just not fun.
>
>With Madshus skis I've tested the marking on the ski is usually not too far
>wrong. No company or testing machine is perfect though.
>
>Good luck
>
>Scott
>
>Stuart Goldsmith wrote in message <365cf6ac...@news.accessone.com>...
Stuart Goldsmith
whether an individual is suited for a ski in terms of flext. I think
it's made by Fischer.
Kenneth Salzberg
> Softer is better, no foolin'! Diagonal is about having KICK, *not* about
> doublepole glide. It's the uphills that make the ski day. That make
> XC what it is! If you miss a kick, you bum-out your day. Billy Koch
> invented the stiff ski and no one has been able to use it since.
> Whatever, softer is better. I used to beat stronger guys by minutes
> just coz I had softer skis (and softer wax!). They worred about
> glide. I made sure I could ski. I won. Keep yourself smiling and
> go soft. Also consider how much skiing you do after you yourself
> are 'softened' up. When you're a little bit tired, you'll miss kicks
> on stiffies. If I miss a kick I'm sad. If I miss 3 my tendons are
> sore the next day. Missing kicks causes INJURY.
Jeff is right, of course, but perhaps overdoes it a bit. After making
sure that your skis fit (arn't too stiff), and you have the right wax to
let you easily kick up the hills (Roy Carstad told me, years ago, the test
to make sure you've got the wax right: find a gentle up hill, and see if
you can easily kick and glide up it without poles), having good glide
still comes in handy.
Small story in point: A couple of years ago at the Seeley Hills classic,
it was very cold, and the snow was comparatively new. Kick was thus no
problem at all (anyone's green worked fine). I worked very hard to get
the tips and tails fast (Toko nordlight black, followed by a couple of
coats of nordlight, then nordlight with cold powder, all polished very
hard). Great glide. On the way back, more up than down, I was following
a group of (younger) guys who would pull away from me up each hill (it
wasn't the wax, it was the legs). I'd catch them after each down/flat.
They'd begin double poling where I was still in my tuck. They'd start
striding where I was double poling, or double pole-kick. So they were
using more energy than I was. After about 8K of this, I stayed with them
on the way _up_ a hill - at the top they knew, I knew, they let me by, and
I didn't see them again till the finish. Loved that glide :-).
-Ken
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