Elan SCX info needed
Dajer152
I've demo'd 4 different brands of shaped skis and really liked the Rossi Energy
9.9, however the old credit card is choking at $400 so I'm looking for
alternatives. A local ski shop has 1 (maybe 2) year old Elan SCX's (red) for
$190. but each salesperson I ask has a differant opinion as to how stiff and
stable they are. I'm a 200 lb agressive cruiser. I'm competent on black diamond
trails but avoid the bumps (old legs not good shocks) I tend to ski fast when
conditions permit. Any info would be appreciated. I ski mostly in the east so
performance info on (ahem) hardpack would also be great.
thanks
DJ
David Swager
I've been on 3 different Elans including the SCX and have not like any of
them. The SCX is supposed to be the turn machine and not built for Speed.
If your looking for less expensive, try Olin skis like the kinetic and
catalyst. They are similar to the K2s and seemed to be discounted more than
K2. You might also look at the kniessel and Kastle and Fischer skis. They
also seem to be on the clearence racks alot.
Dajer152 wrote in message <19980220222...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
jeffbonny
If you're looking for a ski to cruise on keep looking. SCX's must be
continuously turned and __really__ don't like to be run straight.
Those big ol' tips are always railed too. If you do go for them be
prepared form some serious belt grinding to make 'em flat.
jeff
n.van.bc.ca
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Thomas & Gabi Klatt
Dajer152 schrieb in Nachricht
<19980220222...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
>I've demo'd 4 different brands of shaped skis and really liked the Rossi
Energy
>9.9, however the old credit card is choking at $400 so I'm looking for
>alternatives. A local ski shop has 1 (maybe 2) year old Elan SCX's (red)
for
>$190. but each salesperson I ask has a differant opinion as to how stiff
and
>stable they are. I'm a 200 lb agressive cruiser. I'm competent on black
diamond
>trails but avoid the bumps (old legs not good shocks) I tend to ski fast
when
>conditions permit. Any info would be appreciated. I ski mostly in the east
so performance info on (ahem) hardpack would also be great.
>thanks
>DJ
1. 190$ is too expensive for these ski, you will get them for 200 DM in
germany (1$=1,82 DM !!!!)
2. the ski is very good until you are not to fast on black trials. my weight
is 60 kg and i have got the 200cm lenght ski. If you do no mistake at higher
speed you will have quite a lot of fun. but be careful, the ski will not
accept any mistake at high speed...
3. i drive the ski in the italien alpes. mostly on hard snow conditins
(ice).
i got no problems.
4. driving in deep powder snow would be verry hard if you never tried
before.
5. you could control the ski in every moment in every competion. (slalom,
great slalom, and down hill).
i never got a better ski. (I am skiing for 20 years now).
perhaps try to test dynastar vr27 great slalom 203 or 207 but they might be
much more expensive.
best regards.
Thomas
e-mail: tkl...@metronet.de
Iskidoyou2
first off $190.00 is way too much i have seen them as low as 99.00 for the two
year old version.
The scx monoblock is super fun on the hardpack and ice if it is tuned correctly
and they run very fast once you learn how to stand on them. The major downfall
of this ski is that it is a little tricky in the deeper snow and crud thus it
is not as good an all mountain ski as the rossi
olko...@babson.edu
In article <19980220222...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
daje...@aol.com (Dajer152) wrote:
>
> I've demo'd 4 different brands of shaped skis and really liked the Rossi
Energy
> 9.9, however the old credit card is choking at $400 so I'm looking for
> alternatives. A local ski shop has 1 (maybe 2) year old Elan SCX's (red) for
> $190. but each salesperson I ask has a differant opinion as to how stiff and
> stable they are. I'm a 200 lb agressive cruiser. I'm competent on black
diamond
> trails but avoid the bumps (old legs not good shocks) I tend to ski fast
when
> conditions permit. Any info would be appreciated. I ski mostly in the east
so
> performance info on (ahem) hardpack would also be great.
> thanks
> DJ
>
I've got two year old SCX's. They've been great for learning on, but I
already feel like moving on. Except in packed powder they're scary and
unstable at speed. Not very stiff at all. They will go straight contrary to
what's been said but there's a learning curve to that. The wide tip seems to
hit everything in the granular. No complaints on the ice, though, in fact I
actually enjoy ice <g>. They'll also lay out a decent carve at low speed,
believe it or not.
- Jon
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Sibylle
I own those, plus the new Rossi Viper 9.9. the elans are not ideal for
eastern hardpack (ice). they are very turny and a difficult ski to ski,
best for expert skiers, and work well on soft, groomed snow and steep
natural terrain (Crested Buute). they are not stiff and can be a bit
squirly in crud. I love mine, but not on icy hard pack. That's when i
use my Rossi's.
Of course, some people can use them. My freind Lee, who stasted skiing
at 5, raced all through high school and college, can turn thenm
anywhere.
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vincent
SCX's are commonly sold to beginners, and rented in learn to ski
programs. They are intended to let the unskilled make turns and
experience carving very early in their learning process. My 14 y.o
stepson has them; one of his 15 y.o. friends who is a really big kid
around 200 lbs has them too, and man oh man those shovels are HUGE.
The skiis look like toboggans in the front.
Anyway, there are a couple of other Elan shapes that are more
appropriate for a moderately advanced skier. Check a different model
ski.
Good luck,
-V.
Aaron Daniel
I beg to differ. There are three different models in the SCX line. The
original SCX - the SCX Monoblock is not a beginner ski. That ski
performs quite well under any parallel skier and makes a beginner
pay for their mistakes. The SCX RP is only for advanced skiers.
Watching a phenomenal skier on either of these skis will show
anyone how it's done. I do not only mean in Trench Warfare situations
either. These skis are phenomenal for laying down phat carves in the
snow. However, unlike other deep groovin' machines, these skis
respond phenomenally to traditional skiing input. Just try it.
Additionally, as ELAN matured the SCX line they brought out the
SCX Cap and SCX PC which are truly for beginning skiers. Less
radical in shape than the other two, these skis can be skidded by a
rank beginner as well as laid down into a pure carve. Neither of these
skis would be useful to a skier on difficult terrain. However, the SCX
ine does a great job of covering the needs of every skier.
This is not intended to flame - I only hope to dispell a myth.
Aar-head
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Dajer152
To the many who sent SCX info, thanks. I ended up buying Rossi 9.9's and love
'em
dj
Stevan Steinfeld
I ski a pair of SCX Monos and, even when I stop on a steep blue or groomed
black and look up the slope, the SCXs have left the most beautiful chiseled
carvings on the slope. They are a blast to ski, especially fast. This was
my first year to ski them and they were great on groomed, a blast in the
bumps, and I don't think I've ever had so much fun in powder. I read the
things that people say (everybody has opinions about equipment) and it used
to make me second guess my choice. But what it comes down to is what works
for you. I have a blast on these skis and have never skied as well (all
over the mountain) as I did a couple months ago when I first skied them at
Vail.
Aaron Daniel <carola...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
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> I beg to differ. There are three different models in the SCX line. The
> original SCX - the SCX Monoblock is not a beginner ski. That ski
> performs quite well under any parallel skier and makes a beginner
> pay for their mistakes. The SCX RP is only for advanced skiers.
> Watching a phenomenal skier on either of these skis will show
> anyone how it's done. I do not only mean in Trench Warfare situations
> either. These skis are phenomenal for laying down phat carves in the
> snow. However, unlike other deep groovin' machines, these skis
> respond phenomenally to traditional skiing input. Just try it.
> [snip]
Petri Havanto
Stevan Steinfeld wrote:
>
> I ski a pair of SCX Monos and, even when I stop on a steep blue or groomed
> black and look up the slope, the SCXs have left the most beautiful chiseled
> carvings on the slope. They are a blast to ski, especially fast. This was
I haven't read the earlier comments but hey, this is the net, so...
I got me a pair of SCX RP (193 cm). I'm 195 cm and 90 kg, which may or
may not
make a difference.
They're maybe the greatest fun I have had with my skis on! They turn
well, that's given,
but they don't get squirrely even at higher speeds and uneven
snow-conditions.
Very predictable on crud and other sorts of ugly snow, quick and floaty
in powder.
In tight bumps the very wide tip tends to 'catch' if you are just a
little
bit late and when skiing on hard (and this means _hard_) snow you have
to
be quite careful when initiating the turn. Also, they don't like being
skied
sloppily, they work like skates when they carve but feel like noodles
when you
allow them to slide.
They work best when driven with carving-technique but if there is a need
one
can do traditional parallel, for example no steep and very narrow
sections.
So there,
Petri