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Burt Hwang

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Jan 20, 2003, 2:43:26 PM1/20/03
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I have a set of ICE USA composite poles that I'd like to cut down a
couple of inches (I prefer shorter poles now). I heard that the
fiberglass weaves might shred if you cut them. Anyone ever attempt
it?

I was thinking of using a high speed bandsaw or dremmel tooling it.

Arthur

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Jan 20, 2003, 5:59:51 PM1/20/03
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Yes, you are on the right track. Shredding usually happens when the
tooth count is too low. Use as fine a blade as possible. A Dremel with
a metal cutting wheel worked OK in some tests I did (I have the same
poles). The Dremel saw blade is a bit too likely to grab on you
(dangerous). If you use a hacksaw (the slowest and therefore preferred
method), use a mitre box, a very fine saw blade, little pressure, and
wrap duct tape or masking tape around the pole first. Wear gloves and
vacuum up the fine fibres. Try not to breathe them. Carbon or
fibreglass, they don't do your lungs any good, which is why I prefer
the hacksaw to the Dremel.

Beloved Leader

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Jan 20, 2003, 7:54:12 PM1/20/03
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bt...@yahoo.com (Burt Hwang) wrote in message news:<c2969d1b.03012...@posting.google.com>...

> I was thinking of using a high speed bandsaw or dremmel tooling it.

Use the Dremel with the clay cutoff wheel.

MJK

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Jan 20, 2003, 9:50:57 PM1/20/03
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Golf club shafts are composite/graphite... can be cut just fine with hack
saw. Only MUST is that you wrap the area to be cut with masking tape a few
times a round- prevents ANY splintering.

Good luck.


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Poachise

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Jan 20, 2003, 11:41:53 PM1/20/03
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"MJK" <wa...@surfnet1.net> wrote in message
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> Golf club shafts are composite/graphite... can be cut just fine
with hack
> saw. Only MUST is that you wrap the area to be cut with masking
tape a few
> times a round- prevents ANY splintering.
>
Second that suggestion. I've actually cut down graphits before, and
wrapping tape around the cut is essential.

I used a hacksaw, FWIW.

-Poachise


Crashj

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Jan 21, 2003, 10:30:04 AM1/21/03
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Arthur <no...@all.com> wrote in message news:<dbvo2vkhom8ekpvl0...@4ax.com>...

> On 20 Jan 2003 11:43:26 -0800, bt...@yahoo.com (Burt Hwang) wrote:
> >I have a set of ICE USA composite poles that I'd like to cut down
<>
> Yes, you are on the right track.
<trim all good points>

When you are done, dribble some superglue over the exposed end to seal it.

Crashj 'cut em off two times and they are still too short' Johnson

Arthur

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Jan 21, 2003, 3:16:41 PM1/21/03
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On 21 Jan 2003 07:30:04 -0800, cra...@mindspring.com (Crashj) wrote:

>Arthur <no...@all.com> wrote in message news:<dbvo2vkhom8ekpvl0...@4ax.com>...
>> On 20 Jan 2003 11:43:26 -0800, bt...@yahoo.com (Burt Hwang) wrote:
>> >I have a set of ICE USA composite poles that I'd like to cut down
><>
>> Yes, you are on the right track.
><trim all good points>
>
>When you are done, dribble some superglue over the exposed end to seal it.

Never thought of that. Thank you.


Crashj

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Jan 22, 2003, 12:42:14 PM1/22/03
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Kim_J...@volcanomail.com (Beloved Leader) wrote in message news:<26a0f230.0301...@posting.google.com>...

> bt...@yahoo.com (Burt Hwang) wrote in message news:<c2969d1b.03012...@posting.google.com>...
>
> > I was thinking of using a high speed bandsaw or dremmel tooling it.
>
> Use the Dremel with the clay cutoff wheel.

There is a 1.00 in dia composite cutoff wheel available for dremel,
too. It does not fracture as easily.

Crashj 'hates the noise, though' Johnson

Burt Hwang

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Jan 22, 2003, 5:04:48 PM1/22/03
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"Poachise" <biff...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<z3adnQHyqY5...@speakeasy.net>...

Great tips guys. Wrap, cut, then glue. Thx!

Poachise

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Jan 23, 2003, 3:43:43 AM1/23/03
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"Burt Hwang" <bt...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I forgot to mention that if anyone is trying to cut
down aluminum poles, try a plumber's tubing cutter.
It leaves a smoother edge than a hacksaw.

Doesn't work on graphite poles though.

-P


Richard Henry

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Jan 23, 2003, 3:58:48 AM1/23/03
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"Poachise" <biff...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> I forgot to mention that if anyone is trying to cut
> down aluminum poles, try a plumber's tubing cutter.
> It leaves a smoother edge than a hacksaw.
>
> Doesn't work on graphite poles though.
>

My high school buddy on the ski patrol carried a plumber's cutting tool for
emergencies.

There were no graphite poles, then, however.


Crashj

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Jan 23, 2003, 11:01:00 AM1/23/03
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"Poachise" <biff...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<5qadndl8KoN...@speakeasy.net>...

<>
> I forgot to mention that if anyone is trying to cut
> down aluminum poles, try a plumber's tubing cutter.
> It leaves a smoother edge than a hacksaw.
> Doesn't work on graphite poles though.

Not sure that is true. It would probably ruin the roller blade by the
time it cut through to the hollow core, so I will not try it on mine.
I carry a mini tubing cutter in my first aid belt in honor of Chuck
Connors, The Rifleman. Anyone else know his skiing story?

Crashj 'does not want to shoot anyone' Johnson

lal_truckee

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Jan 23, 2003, 12:02:23 PM1/23/03
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Stabbed himself with his pole? Serious injury? Right into the chest cavity?

sjjohnston

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Jan 23, 2003, 6:51:32 PM1/23/03
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cra...@mindspring.com (Crashj) wrote in message

> Not sure that is true. It would probably ruin the roller blade by the
> time it cut through to the hollow core, so I will not try it on mine.
> I carry a mini tubing cutter in my first aid belt in honor of Chuck
> Connors, The Rifleman. Anyone else know his skiing story?

You sure you aren't referring to Clint Walker, who was on some other
Western of more or less the same time period?

Mike Speegle

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Jan 23, 2003, 7:04:45 PM1/23/03
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sjjohnston <johnst...@hotmail.com> typed:

The story I heard *many* ages ago referred to Clint Walker, 6'6",
star of "Cheyenne". Whereas Chuck Connors, 6'5", starred in "The
Rifleman". Whether any story is true or who it happened to, I can't
say. But both these guys were big stars on TV and made lots of movies.
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The Real Bev

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Jan 23, 2003, 7:56:28 PM1/23/03
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Richard Henry wrote:

>
> "Poachise" <biff...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I forgot to mention that if anyone is trying to cut
> > down aluminum poles, try a plumber's tubing cutter.
> > It leaves a smoother edge than a hacksaw.
> >
> > Doesn't work on graphite poles though.
>
> My high school buddy on the ski patrol carried a plumber's cutting tool for
> emergencies.

I'm trying -- unsuccessfully -- to visualize the nature of emergency for
which shortening a ski pole might be a remedy. If someone wrapped a ski
pole around a boarder's neck a cutter might be useful, but certainly not
on an emergency basis.

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Bev
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The Real Bev

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Jan 23, 2003, 7:57:18 PM1/23/03
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Mike Speegle wrote:
>
> sjjohnston <johnst...@hotmail.com> typed:
>
> > cra...@mindspring.com (Crashj) wrote in message
> >
> >> Not sure that is true. It would probably ruin the roller blade by the
> >> time it cut through to the hollow core, so I will not try it on mine.
> >> I carry a mini tubing cutter in my first aid belt in honor of Chuck
> >> Connors, The Rifleman. Anyone else know his skiing story?
> >
> > You sure you aren't referring to Clint Walker, who was on some other
> > Western of more or less the same time period?
>
> The story I heard *many* ages ago referred to Clint Walker, 6'6",
> star of "Cheyenne". Whereas Chuck Connors, 6'5", starred in "The
> Rifleman". Whether any story is true or who it happened to, I can't
> say. But both these guys were big stars on TV and made lots of movies.

WHAT story?

LePheaux

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Jan 23, 2003, 9:06:23 PM1/23/03
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"Arthur" <no...@all.com> wrote in message
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Try hot knifing, no shreading or glue needed.

Mike Speegle

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Jan 23, 2003, 9:16:11 PM1/23/03
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The Real Bev <bas...@myrealbox.com> typed:

> Mike Speegle wrote:
>>
>> sjjohnston <johnst...@hotmail.com> typed:
>>
>>> cra...@mindspring.com (Crashj) wrote in message
>>>
>>>> Not sure that is true. It would probably ruin the roller blade by
>>>> the time it cut through to the hollow core, so I will not try it
>>>> on mine. I carry a mini tubing cutter in my first aid belt in
>>>> honor of Chuck Connors, The Rifleman. Anyone else know his skiing
>>>> story?
>>>
>>> You sure you aren't referring to Clint Walker, who was on some other
>>> Western of more or less the same time period?
>>
>> The story I heard *many* ages ago referred to Clint Walker, 6'6",
>> star of "Cheyenne". Whereas Chuck Connors, 6'5", starred in "The
>> Rifleman". Whether any story is true or who it happened to, I can't
>> say. But both these guys were big stars on TV and made lots of
>> movies.
>
> WHAT story?

It's been *so* long I don't remember any details other than an
impalement, ski or pole I don't know. ;-)

The Real Bev

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Jan 23, 2003, 10:03:25 PM1/23/03
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Mike Speegle wrote:
>
> The Real Bev <bas...@myrealbox.com> typed:
>
> > Mike Speegle wrote:
> >>
> >> sjjohnston <johnst...@hotmail.com> typed:
> >>
> >>> cra...@mindspring.com (Crashj) wrote in message
> >>>
> >>>> Not sure that is true. It would probably ruin the roller blade by
> >>>> the time it cut through to the hollow core, so I will not try it
> >>>> on mine. I carry a mini tubing cutter in my first aid belt in
> >>>> honor of Chuck Connors, The Rifleman. Anyone else know his skiing
> >>>> story?
> >>>
> >>> You sure you aren't referring to Clint Walker, who was on some other
> >>> Western of more or less the same time period?
> >>
> >> The story I heard *many* ages ago referred to Clint Walker, 6'6",
> >> star of "Cheyenne". Whereas Chuck Connors, 6'5", starred in "The
> >> Rifleman". Whether any story is true or who it happened to, I can't
> >> say. But both these guys were big stars on TV and made lots of
> >> movies.
> >
> > WHAT story?
>
> It's been *so* long I don't remember any details other than an
> impalement, ski or pole I don't know. ;-)

Googling resulted in nothing relevant. I think you made it all up. OTOH,
there's a 1990 movie called 'Face the Edge' (aka 'One Last Run') which the
single reviewer said had 'far too much skiing' and in which Chuck Connors
had a part. He died of lung cancer in 1992. Clint Walker is still alive.

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Mike Speegle

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Jan 23, 2003, 10:29:55 PM1/23/03
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I've been dredging the old gray matter. Here's what I remember from
early high school (mid 60's). Clint Walker was skiing bumps at
Berthoud. A guy who had fallen stood up from behind a bump and Walker
impaled him with his ski through his chest. Whether or not any of this
*actually* happened I don't know. I remember talking with classmates on
how one would feel if you killed someone like that. It's not your
fault, but somebody died anyway. You know the kind of deep
philospohical bullshit high school students like to shoot the shit
about. ;-)

Richard Henry

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Jan 23, 2003, 11:10:49 PM1/23/03
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"The Real Bev" <bas...@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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> Richard Henry wrote:
> >
> > "Poachise" <biff...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I forgot to mention that if anyone is trying to cut
> > > down aluminum poles, try a plumber's tubing cutter.
> > > It leaves a smoother edge than a hacksaw.
> > >
> > > Doesn't work on graphite poles though.
> >
> > My high school buddy on the ski patrol carried a plumber's cutting tool
for
> > emergencies.
>
> I'm trying -- unsuccessfully -- to visualize the nature of emergency for
> which shortening a ski pole might be a remedy. If someone wrapped a ski
> pole around a boarder's neck a cutter might be useful, but certainly not
> on an emergency basis.
>

He had been instructed that if a pole or part of a pole penetrated any part
of the body, not to remove it, but cut it off just long enough to allow the
emergency room to get hold of it.

Don't you remember the Clint Walker case? (or was it Chuck Connors - the
debate is raging)

(Maybe it was Dan Blocker)


pigo

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Jan 23, 2003, 11:17:35 PM1/23/03
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"The Real Bev" <bas...@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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I've heard the story. It was Clint Walker that got skewered.


Mike Speegle

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Jan 24, 2003, 1:01:49 AM1/24/03
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pigo <pigop...@yahoo.com> typed:

Here it is from IMDB.com:
http://us.imdb.com/Bio?Walker,%20Clint%20(I)

"He also had supporting roles in Rock Hudson-Doris Day comedy "Send
Me No Flowers, starred with Frank Sinatra in "None but the brave",
"Night of the Grizzly", and The Dirty Dozen. He nearly had a brush with
death during a skki trip when the pole he was skiing with impaled his
heart, but with a miracle he survived the accident."

Owwee! :-/

Tom G.

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Jan 24, 2003, 1:24:02 AM1/24/03
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"Mike Speegle" <mikes...@netscape.net> wrote in
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> He nearly had a brush with
> death during a skki trip when the pole he was skiing with
> impaled his heart, but with a miracle he survived the accident."

I was there when he got choppered out. Happened at the top of Chair 3
at Mammoth. He was using strapless poles and one somehow flipped out
of his hand backwards as he was exiting the chair. Or so I was told
by a patrol friend.

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Crashj

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Jan 24, 2003, 4:35:28 PM1/24/03
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"Mike Speegle" <mikes...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<b0ql0q$sfrsr$1...@ID-130573.news.dfncis.de>...
> pigo <pigop...@yahoo.com> typed:

>
<>
> > I've heard the story. It was Clint Walker that got skewered.
>
> Here it is from IMDB.com:
> http://us.imdb.com/Bio?Walker,%20Clint%20(I)
<>
> He
<nearly>
> had a brush with
> death during a ski trip when the pole he was skiing with impaled his

> heart, but with a miracle he survived the accident."

The mind is the second thing to go, I guess.
Clint Walker it was.
The story as heard was the difficulty they had in transporting him
with that long pole sticking out of his chest. Hence the tubing cutter
in my pack.

Crashj 'I forget what's first' Johnson

bdubya

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Jan 24, 2003, 6:20:25 PM1/24/03
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On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:56:28 -0800, The Real Bev
<bas...@myrealbox.com> wrote:

(snipt)

>
>I'm trying -- unsuccessfully -- to visualize the nature of emergency for
>which shortening a ski pole might be a remedy. If someone wrapped a ski
>pole around a boarder's neck a cutter might be useful,

....but a round of hearty applause would be more appropriate.

bw

Mike Speegle

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Jan 24, 2003, 5:37:41 PM1/24/03
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Crashj <cra...@mindspring.com> typed:

Out of curiosity I looked up Chuck Connors and found this bizaare
tidbit: "Very likely the only guest commentator on Monday Night
Baseball to use the F-word." Now that's something to put on a
tombstone. ;-)

Sue

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Jan 25, 2003, 7:30:28 AM1/25/03
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In message <3E308F3C...@myrealbox.com>, The Real Bev
<bas...@myrealbox.com> writes

>>
>> My high school buddy on the ski patrol carried a plumber's cutting tool for
>> emergencies.
>
>I'm trying -- unsuccessfully -- to visualize the nature of emergency for
>which shortening a ski pole might be a remedy. If someone wrapped a ski
>pole around a boarder's neck a cutter might be useful, but certainly not
>on an emergency basis.
>
No, you'd want to wait until life is extinct before recovering the pole
at leisure.
--
Sue ];(:)
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