Brian Head versus Arizona Snowbowl?

[Toller]

Last year I posted that I was visiting a friend in Sedona AZ and we wanted ski. I have never been on Western snow, and wondered where to go.
People recommended Brian Head as the closest place worth going to.

My friend asked how it was better than Arizona Snowbowl. On paper they are roughly equal; but of course we don't ski on paper.

Assuming ASB has decent snow, what about BH might be worth driving 4 times as far?

[The Real Bev]

I normally ski in SoCal at Big Bear. 180 miles round trip. I gladly
rented a car and drove 1,000 miles to ski at Brian Head for a week.
Excellent grooming, friendly staff, great on-slope food, inexpensive
lift tickets and lodging, and it's close to incredibly beautiful
National Parks and Monuments.

Never been to Snowbowl.


--
Cheers, Bev
"Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity
is not thus handicapped."
-- Elbert Hubbard, American author

[rph...@cox.net]

If your timing is right Brian Head is good for a day of skiing on your way to or from Park City area or Cottonwood Canyons.

Starting in Vegas, Cedar City (the I-15 exit for Brian Head) is about where I have to stop and take a leak.

[The Real Bev]

IF the road is open. If closed, turn right at Parowan.

> is about where I have to stop and take a leak.

Gas at Costco in Vegas? I was really pissed to find that the easy one
to get to doesn't sell the usual stuff.

Have you visited Kolob Canyon? If not, do so.

--
Cheers, Bev
When cryptography is outlawed, only outlaws will
qwertzuio asdfghjk pyxcvbnml -- M. O'Dorney

[twob...@gmail.com]

On Monday, January 2, 2017 at 1:18:23 PM UTC-8, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 01/02/2017 12:00 PM, Toller wrote:
> > Last year I posted that I was visiting a friend in Sedona AZ and we
> > wanted ski. I have never been on Western snow, and wondered where to
> > go. People recommended Brian Head as the closest place worth going
> > to.
> >
> > My friend asked how it was better than Arizona Snowbowl. On paper
> > they are roughly equal; but of course we don't ski on paper.
> >
> > Assuming ASB has decent snow, what about BH might be worth driving 4
> > times as far?
>
> I normally ski in SoCal at Big Bear. 180 miles round trip. I gladly
> rented a car and drove 1,000 miles to ski at Brian Head for a week.
> Excellent grooming, friendly staff, great on-slope food, inexpensive
> lift tickets and lodging, and it's close to incredibly beautiful
> National Parks and Monuments.
>
> Never been to Snowbowl.

Translation: flat, boring, small, but she stays for free with another former terrorist and pathological liar.

>
>
> --
> Cheers, Bev
> "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity
> is not thus handicapped."
> -- Elbert Hubbard, American author

As Toller proves. Both places suck. Ok if you have free tickets, as I did when I skied at both. But not worth going out of your way for.

[rph...@cox.net]

Breakfast at midnight in Vegas means skiing the next day somewhere (if the roads and weather cooperate, and I have seen them not). I spun out my brother-in-law's van on black ice on the long uphill south of Cedar City, but right down the dotted line, ending up facing exactly the wrong way. The other passengers were all asleep and woke to find me turning around in the middle of the interstate. Another time I gave up trying to pass trucks because they were throwing up so much snow that I couldn't see 20 feet - about a mile down the road we came upon a wrecker towing a car out of the median effectively blocking the left lane.

[JayPique]

Angel Fire rocks, too.

[twob...@gmail.com]

Holy shit, I knew you were stupid and classless, but Angel Fire only rocks if you are a bunny. Not much snow, flat, almost as useless as you.

[twob...@gmail.com]

DICKLESS! I miss fucking with you. CONTACT INFO? Hey, have you heard from your buddy James Arthur Strohm? You know, the pathetic crossdressing Munchkin who promised to get me jailed for exposing him as a ridiculous, laughable liar? You know, the same shit you pulled before you humiliated yourself?
Lie to any cops lately?
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[Toller]

So... no one has been to Arizona Snowbowl?

[The Real Bev]

I hadn't thought of leaving the night before. That way we could do Zion
AND Kolob (my friend hasn't seen either) rather than just arriving and
skiing the next day. Yeah, I know, both are worth a lot more than a
drive-through, but choices have to be made.

> I spun out my brother-in-law's van on black ice on the long uphill
> south of Cedar City, but right down the dotted line, ending up
> facing exactly the wrong way. The other passengers were all asleep
> and woke to find me turning around in the middle of the interstate.

We did a thing like that in the van in the rain in Columbus, OH.
Smacked a bridge abutment which scars the van still bears, even after
vigorous hammering.

> Another time I gave up trying to pass trucks because they were
> throwing up so much snow that I couldn't see 20 feet - about a mile
> down the road we came upon a wrecker towing a car out of the median
> effectively blocking the left lane.

Hail like that on I-15 south of the 210 several years back. Could
barely see the car ahead of me, just a couple of faint red spots, even
though we had all slowed to the appropriate crawl. I couldn't even SEE
the overhead freeway signs, much less read them. Managed to find the
I-60 offramp. Half a mile to the west the
sun was shining.

--
Cheers, Bev
The volume of a pizza of thickness 'a' and radius 'z'
is given by pi*z*z*a

[The Real Bev]

Grandspawn and his cousin drove from Dallas to AF, boarded, and drove
back all without sleeping. It's nice to be young.

[lal_truckee]

View of the Grand Canyon from the north rim.
Seldom visited, glorious view. Meteor Crater just off the route - VISIT.

While in Sedona, don't forget to drop in on Jerome.

[rph...@cox.net]

When I formed my bucket list, one item was visiting an exposure of the K-T boundary, and the closest is in the hills just above Raton Pass, NM. Did the trip a couple of years back, and along the way hit Meteor Crater, Painted Desert, Petrified Forest (they nicely ask you in the way IN if you have any rocks in the car, and will put a NPS tag on them), Shiprock (from a distance), Four Corners, Monument Valley, and a pass through Grand Canyon south side. If I had planned a little better I could have included North Rim and Breaking Bad tour of Albuquerque.

Findings: On I-10, you are almost never out of sight of a train on the tracks paralleling the route; K-T boundary is marked by a sign pointing out the change in the color of the rocks, otherwise ho-hum; it is incongruous to be driving through red-brown dry desert in heat the AC can barely handle and then come to a bridge over a stream roaring with a flash flood from thunderstorms in the hills nearby. Miscellany - I borrowed my wife's keyring because it has the car alarm remote on it, and when I got home and fished my keying out of the bin below the radio I found the Ipod that had been missing for 2 years (and is missing again now).

Last item on the bucket list - top of San Gorgonio - I got to within sight of it in June one year, but that was the last heavy snow year and I didn't have ice gear and I couldn't tell which set of footprints across the snowfield was the right one.

[The Real Bev]

BUT road may be closed due to snow. Recent news article about people
following GPS instructions. Fortunately all survived.

> While in Sedona, don't forget to drop in on Jerome.

--
Cheers, Bev
"Tough? We drink our urine and eat our dead!"
-- N. Heilweil

[The Real Bev]

On 01/04/2017 03:33 PM, rph...@cox.net wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 3:13:42 PM UTC-8, lal_truckee
> wrote:
>> On 1/2/17 12:00 PM, Toller wrote:
>>> Last year I posted that I was visiting a friend in Sedona AZ and
>>> we wanted ski. I have never been on Western snow, and wondered
>>> where to go. People recommended Brian Head as the closest place
>>> worth going to.
>>>
>>> My friend asked how it was better than Arizona Snowbowl. On
>>> paper they are roughly equal; but of course we don't ski on
>>> paper.
>>>
>>> Assuming ASB has decent snow, what about BH might be worth
>>> driving 4 times as far?
>>>
>>
>> View of the Grand Canyon from the north rim. Seldom visited,
>> glorious view. Meteor Crater just off the route - VISIT.
>>
>> While in Sedona, don't forget to drop in on Jerome.
>
> When I formed my bucket list, one item was visiting an exposure of
> the K-T boundary, and the closest is in the hills just above Raton
> Pass, NM.

I had to google that. Nifty. Did you keep a sample?

> Did the trip a couple of years back, and along the way hit
> Meteor Crater, Painted Desert, Petrified Forest (they nicely ask you
> in the way IN if you have any rocks in the car, and will put a NPS
> tag on them), Shiprock (from a distance), Four Corners,

Apparently the spot they charge you money to stand on is not actually
the four-corner spot.

> Monument
> Valley, and a pass through Grand Canyon south side. If I had
> planned a little better I could have included North Rim and Breaking
> Bad tour of Albuquerque.

BB virtual tour . Why waste time in a city?

> Findings: On I-10, you are almost never out of sight of a train on
> the tracks paralleling the route; K-T boundary is marked by a sign
> pointing out the change in the color of the rocks, otherwise ho-hum;

The most interesting thing about the glass walkway at the Grand Canyon
-- On a flat red rock near it there was a tiny worm of green -- the last
uneroded bit of the next layer above that one. I thought it was a big
staple at first.

> it is incongruous to be driving through red-brown dry desert in heat
> the AC can barely handle and then come to a bridge over a stream
> roaring with a flash flood from thunderstorms in the hills nearby.

I drove up I-15 a while after the flood that took out a big chunk of the
highway. Really impressive.

> Miscellany - I borrowed my wife's keyring because it has the car
> alarm remote on it, and when I got home and fished my keying out of
> the bin below the radio I found the Ipod that had been missing for 2
> years (and is missing again now).
>
> Last item on the bucket list - top of San Gorgonio - I got to within
> sight of it in June one year, but that was the last heavy snow year
> and I didn't have ice gear and I couldn't tell which set of
> footprints across the snowfield was the right one.

Walking and climbing are over-rated,

[JayPique]

You're still alive!

JP
****************
Gang: Reuniting.

[rph...@cox.net]

K-T sample is in a plastic bag around here somewhere. The pictures are more meaningful, and they don't show much.

The 4-corner spot is the legal boundary among the 4 states, even though it is a few hundred feet from the spot intended (I think it is out in the parking lot) in the laws that defined the states' boundaries. In most surveying disputes (especially for points surveyed that long ago), "ground truth" is accepted unless there is some egregious error. The building where I attended 6th grade in Derby Line, Vt, is, according to the various treaties that ended the Revolution and settled the border, about 1000 feet into Canada since it is north of 45°N, but about another 1000 feet south of the accepted border (the story is told that the binational surveying party sent out to mark the line in the early 1800's didn't trust the local water, so they brought along good clean whiskey for health reasons).

[twob...@gmail.com]

On Monday, January 2, 2017 at 12:00:44 PM UTC-8, Toller wrote:

How about adding a few things to the bucket list? Like providing the contact info for the SPD officer who blew you off with a FORM EMAIL! If you suddenly grow a pair, how about stalking me in the real world, showing up, and spewing your shit!!!!!!
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