I have a pair of 40" ski poles that I would like to shorten a couple
of inches for my 7-year old which will start using poles during ski
lessons this year.
The poles I have are Smith AXIS Series 1.
Can I remove the grips and shorten the poles??? I see a phillips
screw in the top of the grip, but I'm not certain if that anchors
the strap to the grip, or the grip to the pole?
Thanks!
"Joby Sour" <js...@us.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:3A4CB639...@vnet.ibm.com...
More than likely, the screw holds on the strap. It may go into a
wooden or plastic dowel, but that's not what holds the grip on
usually. It normally is just a tight fit. Commonly it's possible to
pull off the grips by anchoring them against an edge and pulling on the
pole shaft. I've drilled a piece of wood to the shaft diameter, slit
the wood so I can put it around the shaft and placed the wood in a vise
to lever against. Most ski shops have a device to pop off the grips.
A tubing cutter will do the shortening for you. A little moisture
(spittle works for me) helps slide the grips back in place. If there's
a wooden dowel in the tube, drive it farther in by the amount you want
to cut off.
>
>
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The best way is to put a small hole in the top of the dowel, then screw a
screw partway into it. (An eye hook works well.) Then use pliers to yank the
dowel out of there. Then cut the pole. Pipe-cutter? A hacksaw or electric
saber saw works, too. Just grind or sand down the edges a bit, to take away
burrs and dull the sharp edges.
Then put the dowel back in. If it doesn't fit in that well, shave it down
just a bit, then hammer it back into place.
Putting the grip back on? A drop or two of liquid dishwasher detergent works
great.
Trouble getting the grip off in the first place? Same thing - *gently* put
the blade of a small screwdriver between the grip and the shaft, lift it up
a bit (but not so much you start to split the grip) and squirt a dollop of
dishwasher detergent in there. (A dollop is a bit more than a smidgen, and
less than a squirt. Be sure you use exactly the right amount - a dollop, not
a smidgen or a squirt.) Then try to *rotate* the grip, rather than pull it
straight off.
Bert
knot...@traverse.com wrote in message <92jclq$aqd$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
I suggest hairspray. Just be quick getting the grip back on. If you have a
mallet, give it a little help. When dry, the grip is "glued" and won't have
a chance of rotating on you.
Pops
How well glued? I thought one of the features of a good set of strap-style
poles is that if the pole gets hung up on something (tree, lift-chair,
another skier) the pole will separate at the grip instead of the shoulder.
I thought one of the features of a good set of strap-style
> poles is that if the pole gets hung up on something (tree, lift-chair,
> another skier) the pole will separate at the grip instead of the shoulder.
>
You're probably right. They would be glued for sure. Maybe just a good idea
if you happened to mess them up a bit taking them off in the first place.
It does do wonders on handlebars.
Pops
Heh. Having once fallen on a pole, I don't even use the straps any more.
> You're probably right. They would be glued for sure. Maybe just a good idea
> if you happened to mess them up a bit taking them off in the first place.
> It does do wonders on handlebars.
I once used liquid detergent to put bike grips on and the things didn't
stop rotating for weeks :-( Hair spray sticks too well. Next time, plain
water.
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I used a rubber clamp in a vise that I have from my golf club repair
kit, then I used a rubber mallet and wood block and the grips
popped right off, I then cut the poles down using a tubing cutter,
and slid the grips back on using golf grip solvent which evaporates
in a few hours. Worked Great! Thanks again!
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SMOKE BEFORE; DURING OR AFTER DOING THIS!!!!!
Mike
JSOUR wrote in message <3A4E25E1...@vnet.ibm.com>...
ant
<knot...@traverse.com> wrote in message news:92jclq$aqd$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
Scott Wrote:
>Anthea Kerrison is a thief, a perjurer, and the leader of a gang of internet
>terrorists.
>Shun her if you are a decent person.>>
Scott, Ant is no more a thief, than you're model for GQ.
Give it a rest, and try to realize she is still respected. And you're not.
Skirecr wrote:
> in>Message-id: <3A4E9E80...@speakeasy.org>
>
> Scott Wrote:
>
> >Anthea Kerrison is a thief, a perjurer, and the leader of a gang of internet
> >terrorists.
> >Shun her if you are a decent person.>>
>
> Scott, Ant is no more a thief, than you're model for GQ.
Then they must be showing up with the cameras soon, because Kerrison sure as
hell is a thief.
>
> Give it a rest, and try to realize she is still respected. And you're not.
Kerrison is respected? By whom? Other pathological liars, wackos, and nutcases
like you?
Kerrison is loathed by any decent human being. No one with any ethical or moral
standards would have anything to do with her. No surprise you are fond of her,
though.
That's just the kind of petty and small-minded trouble-maker she is.
Bert
Skirecr wrote in message <20010101003931...@ng-mo1.aol.com>...
Bert wrote:
>That's just the kind of petty and small-minded trouble-maker she is""
Didn't you mean to say "That's just the kind of PRETTY and SMALL-BREASTED
trouble maker she is?"
BTW - Bert Hoff. How is the board of trustees at Seattle Community College
going to react to your idiotic flames?
Whee-hoo. Sometimes you make sense, and even save me the trouble of
posting (which I'm gonna do anyway, so there.) The hot water trick is
important, since usually the grips are friction fit and the temp softens
the plastic (and any stickum that might be inside.) Also good for
refitting the grip since it'll stay in place and not twist after it
cools.
And you're also correct about using a hacksaw - everybody has a hacksaw,
but few have tubing cutters, so that makes it easy. Filing any rough
spots is important, but in a pinch just rub em against a rock.
And to think that someone (above) suggested prying the grips with a
screwdriver. How foolish (and potentially damaging to the poles.) Why,
that makes you the voice of practical wisdom, or, if not exactly wisdom,
at least most welcome to post regularly and profusely.
Glad you're in the country having fun on the snow - Are you counting
these days into you yearly summation? Seems like you could make it a 12
month personnal ski-day best.
Bye Bye
> Whee-hoo. Sometimes you make sense, and even save me the trouble of
> posting (which I'm gonna do anyway, so there.) The hot water trick is
> important, since usually the grips are friction fit and the temp softens
> the plastic (and any stickum that might be inside.) Also good for
> refitting the grip since it'll stay in place and not twist after it
> cools.
zackly. I often end up wiht stocks (poles) too long and so had to work this
one out for myself.
Works like a charm, but you really ought to take the straps off first or
they get all wet.
Now I just use kid's stocks, as teh 110 length is deemed to be kiddies
whereas my officicial length of 115 is "adults". And kiddies stuff tends to
be cheaper, Bends just as easy but.
> And you're also correct about using a hacksaw - everybody has a hacksaw,
> but few have tubing cutters, so that makes it easy. Filing any rough
> spots is important, but in a pinch just rub em against a rock.
Yeah, rocks are useful things, for use as sandpaper/files, or for banging in
nails and things!
And to think that someone (above) suggested prying the grips with a
> screwdriver. How foolish (and potentially damaging to the poles.) Why,
> that makes you the voice of practical wisdom, or, if not exactly wisdom,
> at least most welcome to post regularly and profusely.
That'll annoy the crap out of Team Idiot. Sadly for me but not the group, I
am so utterly stuffed when I get in from work, even firing up the net is
hard work. Happily, when they discover what my job is, they'lll go so
ballistic that Jupiter will be bothered for weeks.
Suffice it to say that they are going to look very fucking stupid.
I mean, what would I fly all this way to do?!!!!
> Glad you're in the country having fun on the snow - Are you counting
> these days into you yearly summation? Seems like you could make it a 12
> month personnal ski-day best.
hmmm, now there's an idea. My job would facilitate counting ski days,
providing one wasn't too fussy about the type of turns one was doing..
Gorgeous snow we've got, light and fluffy. I remember this stuff from Utah.
Sadly, we seem to get high winds with it, and my nose has a nasty red bit on
the end, and it's not even Cold January yet.
The beer I also remember from Utah, although this stuff actually gets you
tiddly, without any of the fun of actually tasting it. I was prevented from
buying Michelob last night but reckon I'll still try it. These ales are
horrible. Am resisting sinking to getting Heineken.
Why does "good" beer have to taste of burnt dandelion roots?
ant
>Happily, when they discover what my job is, they'lll go so
>ballistic that Jupiter will be bothered for weeks.
C'mon .... it's no secret. You're over there selling timtams and
vegemite to ex-pat aussies, right?
Peter
If you change dot com to dot au,
there's a better chance you message will get through.
I forgot to get some Tim Tams, they were actually flogging them at the
airport in the gourmet foods shops!
Not Vegemite though.
I did bring a shitload of Cherry Ripes though..
ant
>That'll annoy the crap out of Team Idiot. Sadly for me but not the group, I
>am so utterly stuffed when I get in from work, even firing up the net is
>hard work. Happily, when they discover what my job is, they'lll go so
>ballistic that Jupiter will be bothered for weeks.
>Suffice it to say that they are going to look very fucking stupid.
>I mean, what would I fly all this way to do?!!!!
>
All the Ozzie skibums I have met have been loading chairs.
If you're going the detergent route, a little screwdriver boost around the
edge gives the detergent a route to sink in.
Glad you liked my hacksaw alternative. As you say, not everyone has tubing
cutters. Glad, too, that you agree with me about filing off the edges or
burrs. I don't keep a collection of rocks in my garage, so I just take a
couple of swipes with the file.
I can't say I'm terribly surprised that you misrepresented my original post,
and tried to say that I had suggested prying the grip off with a
screwdriver.
Bert
lal_truckee wrote in message <92qkl5$bgs$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
I'm too old for that kind of thing. That's for kids with strong backs and J1
visas.
But I am outside all day...
Cold here today, blue sky and sparkly snow flying through the air, the
oddest effect.
Like big bits of naphthalene. The wind was a bit savage, my face is rather
windburnt.
ant
Bruno's still making it hard for me to respond through deja, (for fairly
obvious reasons - just look around at the kind of posters we have these
days) so I use this rounda-about way to respond ...
Bruno Melli wrote:
ant <an...@geocities.com> wrote:
> I'm too old for that kind of thing. That's for kids with strong backs
and J1
> visas.
Ok, I'll bite: You are a babysitter with a pretty coat on :-)
I just shared a chairlift with an instructor from Oz here
in Winter Park. He works for the ski school teaching (babysitting)
kids.
He didn't have any certification, they basically took his words
that he could ski blue runs.
He filled out his application over the internet too !!!
I don't know about Winter Park, but I have to say the baby sitter (2-6)
"Snow School" at Alpine Meadows is very good, and genuinely teaches the
young darlings to ski. I know of several successesful racers that went
through the Snow School 15-20 years ago (one's on the world cup circuit),
and one of my three year old boy's Snow School instructors became a
professional patroller here. She still asked me about him over the past
few years. The rest of the Pros just wanted to catch up to him to pull
his pass...
Anyway, the Snow School instructors here are pretty good. Most of the Oz
folks around here are lifties or food workers. Some could be instructors,
some even in the Snow School, but I don't talk to too many ski school
folk these days.
So let's not disparage the folks who work with the children - in many
senses their job is the hardest of all on the mountain. (I know you
didn't mean any implications - I'm just overly sensitive some days.)
Scott wrote:
> in her insane drive to dominate this newsgroup.>>
Seems to be working. You're the only one getting S**T these days
truck wrote:
>I'm just overly sensitive some days.)>>
Hormone replacement therapy works wonders
>
lal_truckee wrote:
> So let's not disparage the folks who work with the children - in many
> senses their job is the hardest of all on the mountain. (I know you
> didn't mean any implications - I'm just overly sensitive some days.)
Hell, I took two at risk kids up to Crystal the other day, and you don't
have any problem disparaging me.
I'm also overly sensitive. I don't appreciate slandering pathological liars
like you making false allegations.
>Just a reminder that Anthea Kerrison is a criminal terrorist, who has broken
>several US laws in her insane drive to dominate this newsgroup.
Just a reminder that Scott Abraham, is a pathological liar, and hypocrate,
who was barred from posting on this newsgroup by a Seattle Court. He
routinely broke the law by posting here anyway.
--
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I was surfing the net when Yahoo was only a hillbilly cheer.
For information on the Horvath Network e-mail In...@Horvath.net
mad max wrote:
> In article <3A528850...@speakeasy.org>, Scott Abraham
> <scot...@speakeasy.org> wrote:
>
> >Just a reminder that Anthea Kerrison is a criminal terrorist, who has broken
> >several US laws in her insane drive to dominate this newsgroup.
> >
>
> So you wan't us to believe posting anonymous as "Bobaloobob" in defiance of
> a US court order in not breaking US laws.
> PKB
Hmmmmm.
Same old dweeb lies.
Of course, you know the only reason that order happened is because Kerrison,
Hobbs, and Leonard, among others, committed perjury, illegally conspired to make
false police reports, etc.
An order based completely on perjured lies, with no factual basis whatsoever.
Indeed, the dweebs were guilty of exactly what they falsely alleged I did.
You will excuse me if I have no respect for an illegal order based on perjured
testimony.
You dweebs always forget to mention that the crimes I accuse Kerrison of
committing happened to get that order, along with several other crimes.
You know the truth.
And yet you lie again and again and again.
Bruno Melli wrote:
>
> lal_truckee <lal_t...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > So let's not disparage the folks who work with the children - in many
> > senses their job is the hardest of all on the mountain. (I know you
> > didn't mean any implications - I'm just overly sensitive some days.)
>
> Yes, I didn't mean to have the "babysitter with a pretty coat" sound
> disparaging (is that a word ?). But having taught my 2 daugthers starting
> at age 2.5 I know that's what it can feel like at time.
> Kids that young have a pretty short attention span and are more
> insterested in the hot chocolate breaks than in the skiing.
The particular kids I'm thinking about 15-20 years ago were more
interested in the skiing than the chocolate - drove the Snow School nuts
(and nearly bankrupted them) since they felt obliged to supply
instructor/sitters to each capability level. They ended up running these
3 and 4 year old hotshots all over the mountain with essentually private
coaching. Alpine started their Development Team concept (feeder to the
Ski Team) to get my boy and a couple of others out of the Snow School
when my kid was four, so us devoted parental units could pay a lump sum
and they could hire a full time coach for those kids. They even sat us
down and explained how it'd be cheaper for us, also, projecting Snow
School costs ahead. They didn't explain that we wouldn't be getting the
automatic Snow School equipment loans anymore and would have to start
buying boots every few months, but hey we all learn ...
The screw on top only holds the strap, and after removing it, sometimes it can
be a chore to get the strap back in...wedge the handle in something solid and
give it a strong quick pull. If it doesn't come off, try putting the pole in
hot water for a minute or two first. Use a pipe cutter for aluminum, hacksaw or
saws-all for composite (wrap duck tape around the composite pole while cutting
to avoid splintering).
-2turn
to e-mail remove XX
the opinions above are based on personal experience and hearsay, and have
almost no basis in fact.
Doubt it, the best poles have the grip epoxied on.
-2turn
Vail- wouldn't bet my shoulder on it.
Perpetual Victim Man! Able to break US laws in a single rationalization!
almost! But these babies are usually about my height or larger. I had a
couple of level 5 boys today, one had a huge new pair of Volkl somethings
on, Spectron or something, and he couldnt manage them. I checked his boots
to see if I could do a ski swap, but the bugger had bigger feet than me!!!
Had them paralleling anyway, they were stoked.
> I just shared a chairlift with an instructor from Oz here
> in Winter Park. He works for the ski school teaching (babysitting) kids.
> He didn't have any certification, they basically took his words
> that he could ski blue runs.
> He filled out his application over the internet too !!!
chuckle. I wasn't in quite that boat. Seems you yanks have something of a
labour crisis. I guess they'll import people until they finally twig to the
fact that if they pay mroe, they'll get more bodies turning up.
They put us through a week's training, and sifted us out.Same idea as the
hiring clinic.
I'm teaching everything up to level 5 currently, as that's where the money
and the work is...and seniority plays its part too. I've worked about 3
weeks straight through, fulltime, and no end in sight.
Some people ended up with the tiny tots, others spend their time in ski
hire...or housekeeping!.
I am outside on the hill all day, pretty well. Gosh, it's cold up here!
ant
I have been so lucky with my kids! They are all older, of course, I'm not
doing the younger kiddies. But I've had some great groups, they listen, they
try, and they're nice people too. Had a few cryers at first, but I explained
that I couldnt possibly ride up the chair with someone who was crying, so
they'd generally stop.
The hot chocolate is pretty popular, but it's been so darn cold, they have
earned it (me too!).
> When I asked that instructor if he thought that teaching skiing to kids
> was easier than teaching adults he pretty much confirmed my thoughts
> that the skiing part is easier with kids. They don't ask you what
> every muscle should do.
Just as well, they find it quite hard to isolate muscles, you have to find
ways to get them to do the right things without going into technical
details. I'm amazed at how fast they learn, and how well.
Had a bunch of never-evers (it was "My turn", they said, ha!) the other day,
and as soon as we got them gliding down the hill, they were already turning.
They can jump from never-ever's to wedge turners in a matter of hours.
> On the other hand (most) adults don't throw a tantrum on the slopes,
> and in general can get back up and put their skis back on by themselves.
> And they can also go to the bathroom by themselves.
Mine are OK in that regard! Thank god. Had a brilliant chat yesterday with a
group, about US politics! Very aware kids. They are 8 years old and up. Had
some 9th graders today too. No tantrums, except from their parents who want
them to be put into higher ski grades.
> But the real reason why the "babysitters in pretty coat" description came
> to my mind is that last year my daughter's ski coach (who was from Oz.
too)
> would actually moonlight as a babysitter after work. She had a very
> strict Visa that prevented her from working outside of the ski area so
> babysitting was about the only thing she could do to round her "salary".
yup. visas are interesting things, quite strict too. I'm working fulltime,
7+ hour days, so I'm sitting pretty.
ant
Bert
Bruno Melli wrote in message <92tr7c$50a$1...@fcnews.fc.hp.com>...
>ant <an...@geocities.com> wrote:
>> I'm too old for that kind of thing. That's for kids with strong backs and
J1
>> visas.
>
>Ok, I'll bite: You are a babysitter with a pretty coat on :-)
>
>I just shared a chairlift with an instructor from Oz here
>in Winter Park. He works for the ski school teaching (babysitting) kids.
>He didn't have any certification, they basically took his words
>that he could ski blue runs.
>He filled out his application over the internet too !!!
>
>bruno.
>
>--
>
><http://www.verinet.com/~drmelli/skier.html>
Scott wrote:
>f course, you know the only reason that order happened is because Kerrison,
>Hobbs, and Leonard, among others, committed perjury, illegally conspired to
>make
>false police reports, etc.
SNIP
Every convict in prison claims he/she was framed. Doesn't make it so.
Nice to see you obey the law only when it suits your needs
>almost! But these babies are usually about my height or larger. I had a
>couple of level 5 boys today, one had a huge new pair of Volkl somethings
>on, Spectron or something, and he couldnt manage them. I checked his boots
>to see if I could do a ski swap, but the bugger had bigger feet than me!!!
>Had them paralleling anyway, they were stoked.
>
>> I just shared a chairlift with an instructor from Oz here
>> in Winter Park. He works for the ski school teaching (babysitting) kids.
>> He didn't have any certification, they basically took his words
>> that he could ski blue runs.
>> He filled out his application over the internet too !!!
>
>chuckle. I wasn't in quite that boat. Seems you yanks have something of a
>labour crisis. I guess they'll import people until they finally twig to the
>fact that if they pay mroe, they'll get more bodies turning up.
>They put us through a week's training, and sifted us out.Same idea as the
>hiring clinic.
>I'm teaching everything up to level 5 currently, as that's where the money
>and the work is...and seniority plays its part too. I've worked about 3
>weeks straight through, fulltime, and no end in sight.
>Some people ended up with the tiny tots, others spend their time in ski
>hire...or housekeeping!.
>I am outside on the hill all day, pretty well. Gosh, it's cold up here!
Level 5? Nice they let you teach at a level that stretches your own
capabilities.
And maybe you've learned a lot since your March 1999 story on your own Web
site, where you said that those Olin Sierra skis were just too much ski for
you to handle.
There's sweet boards. I'm glad you finally took my advice and tried them
again, and are now raving about them. Next, you'll even take on the
challenge of skiing a black run.
It's great they have you teaching kids. They are so accepting, and so less
likely to see through your b.s.
It's a shame you couldn't swindle that poor kid out of the Volkl Spectrons
you tried to pry off his feet ... but if you couldn't handle the Olin
Sierras it's good you didn't try to take on those Volkls.
I wasn't aware it was a custom in ski schools for instructors to try to swap
their old junker boards for students' new-model skis. "Hey, Mom, look at
these sleek black Head Standards my ski instructor gave me for those new
skis you bought me at Christmas. Aren't they great?"
How long do you have to hide behind the chairload shack before the kid's
parents give up and drive away, and it's safe to come out again?
Bert
Skirecr wrote in message <20010105010700...@ng-mk1.aol.com>...
>in>Message-id: <933gv5$1r0$1...@taliesin.netcom.net.uk>
>>
> Bert Hoff, an instructor at North Seattle Community College flames a
visiting
>Australian ski instructor for no apparent reason
I think an inability to ski beyond an intermediate level and an inability to
ski a ski like the Olin Sierra, and attempts to swipe brand new Volkl skis
off the feet of unsuspecting students is plenty of reason.
Where did you say I worked? I didn't catch it in your last 18 posts today
and yesterday.
Bert
HTH
Bert
freeski...@cotse.com wrote in message
<978677988.3...@webmail.cotse.com>...
>"Bert:" <nospam....@yourprovider.moc> wrote in message news:933gv5$1r0
>$1...@taliesin.netcom.net.uk...
>
><<It's a shame you couldn't swindle that poor kid out of the Volkl
Spectrons
>you tried to pry off his feet ... but if you couldn't handle the Olin
>Sierras it's good you didn't try to take on those Volkls.>>
>
>I've never heard of a Volkl Spectron. Volkl Syntro maybe?? A beginning /
>intermediate ski. I dare say they'd be a load easier than the Sierras. Not
that
>any modern ski is particularly tough to "handle".
>
>Jeremy
>
Yeah, Syntro could be it. They were big-looking, with very flared tails that
looked kind-of sawn off.
They were an on-piste sidecut.
And yeah, the toughest ski I've been on lately is the Rossi 9X pros. I can't
bend them in a 184, shorter might be OK...maybe. I've gone off stiff skis.
Although the poor old Sierras are showing their miles. I got in 2 blats down
the front of the hill today before work started; our supervisor has told
those of use who are always on time that we can turn up a bit later.
Had them on edge the whole way down, but just couldnt get them to go beyond
a certain speed. I've had over 100 days on them now, I guess they're
softening up.
Lots more snow fell today, tomorrow should be very nice.
ant
ant wrote:
> They were big-looking, with very flared tails that
> looked kind-of sawn off.
Sounds like you are describing yourself.
Bert
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ant wrote in message ...
>
Bert
Bert, wrote in message <938nlb$q48$1...@taliesin.netcom.net.uk>...
>It sounds like you're making real progress on being able to take on those
>challenging skis and master those blue runs. Such a different story from
>just under two years ago, when you confessed on your Web site (3/1999) that
>those Olin Sierras were just too much for you to handle. I'm really happy
>you swallowed ypur pride and took myt advice, and went back to y them agian
>later ... and that you finally had learned how to handle them.
>
>Bert
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Perhaps Scott will lend you his crossword puzzle book.
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