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chan jason

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Nov 7, 1994, 9:15:25 PM11/7/94
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In article <c566.1....@unb.ca>, DESROCHES C <c5...@unb.ca> wrote:
>I was wondering if anyone out there has had experiences with the Lange boots?
>I have to get some new boots this year and I've been using Nordica boots for
>the past few years. I've been looking at the Lange XR 8.5 or the XR
>Banschee. My buyer's guide tells me the 8.5's are a high performance boot
>while the other ones tend to be more on the extreme side. I want them to be
>flexible so I'm gearing up for the extreme ones[ even thou' there is no
>extreme around here]. I'm about 160 lbs and 6'2". I heard the Lange's were
>a good boot for lighter skiers. Does anyone have any input for me or
>experience with Lange boots? Any advice is appreciated, thanx.


As with most things, you should take a look at all the reviews. Since the
XR Banshees are a new boot this year (i think), I can't tell you how it skis...
yet...I bought a pair for this season. For me it fits like a glove and has
very nice flexibility. I'm expecting them to be very good in the bumps.
Check 'em out!!!

Jason

Tom Blessing

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Nov 8, 1994, 3:09:20 AM11/8/94
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In article <c566.1....@unb.ca> c5...@unb.ca (DESROCHES C) writes:

I was wondering if anyone out there has had experiences with the Lange boots?
I have to get some new boots this year and I've been using Nordica boots for

the past few years. I've been looking at the Lange XR 8.5 or the XR .....


In general, Nordica boots have a narrower fit in the heel than Lange boots.
So, if you fit in Nordica's well, you may have a problem getting a good fit
in the heel from Lange boots. However, boot proportions vary some from model
to model so you may not have a problem.

Tom Blessing

Bill Molloy

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Nov 8, 1994, 7:45:02 PM11/8/94
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In article <c566.1....@unb.ca>, c5...@unb.ca says...

>a good boot for lighter skiers. Does anyone have any input for me or
>experience with Lange boots? Any advice is appreciated, thanx.
>

>Chris DesRoches
>UNB-Fredericton

Chris,
I have been skiing Lange boots for the past 5 years (currently X9).The *only* reason to chose lange or any other brand is _fit_. Lange boots
tend to fit a skier with very narrow feet. The XR9 and XR8.5 are narrow with a tight ankle. The XR Banshee is supposedly somewhat roomier in
the footbox. As far as stiffness goes, the Banshee is somewhat less stiff, although the X9 has an adjustable stiffner in the cuff that can be
removed if wanted. See a good boot fitter and look for fit, not any advertising claims. I would also highly recommend getting a custom footbed
made first ( before you try the new boots). Try the boots with the footbed to get a better fit. Good Luck.
Bill

DESROCHES C

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Nov 7, 1994, 11:08:32 AM11/7/94
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I was wondering if anyone out there has had experiences with the Lange boots?
I have to get some new boots this year and I've been using Nordica boots for
the past few years. I've been looking at the Lange XR 8.5 or the XR
Banschee. My buyer's guide tells me the 8.5's are a high performance boot
while the other ones tend to be more on the extreme side. I want them to be
flexible so I'm gearing up for the extreme ones[ even thou' there is no
extreme around here]. I'm about 160 lbs and 6'2". I heard the Lange's were

Jordan Ginsberg

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Nov 8, 1994, 11:22:05 PM11/8/94
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In article <39mmvt$5...@umbc8.umbc.edu> jch...@umbc.edu (chan jason) writes:
>In article <c566.1....@unb.ca>, DESROCHES C <c5...@unb.ca> wrote:
>>I was wondering if anyone out there has had experiences with the Lange boots?
>>I have to get some new boots this year and I've been using Nordica boots for
>>the past few years. I've been looking at the Lange XR 8.5 or the XR
>>Banschee. My buyer's guide tells me the 8.5's are a high performance boot
>>while the other ones tend to be more on the extreme side. I want them to be
>>flexible so I'm gearing up for the extreme ones[ even thou' there is no
>>extreme around here]. I'm about 160 lbs and 6'2". I heard the Lange's were
>>a good boot for lighter skiers. Does anyone have any input for me or
>>experience with Lange boots? Any advice is appreciated, thanx.
>
>
>As with most things, you should take a look at all the reviews. Since the
>XR Banshees are a new boot this year (i think),

Lange has not changed its mold for a number of years now, they have made
some refinements in their liner (deppending upon the model). The only
thing thyat Lange changes in the best skiing boot on the market is the
color (which also changes the flex, so they do compensate by varrying the
plastic a bit). However, the models change and the gadgets change with
them, but their upper end boots are usually less effected (? or is it
affected, whatever).


I don't ski on em anymore, but when I raced was he best boot I ever skiied.


I can't tell you how it skis...
>yet...I bought a pair for this season. For me it fits like a glove and has
>very nice flexibility. I'm expecting them to be very good in the bumps.
>Check 'em out!!!
>
>Jason

Jordan

N8SKIER

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Nov 9, 1994, 1:55:04 AM11/9/94
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In article <c566.1....@unb.ca>, c5...@unb.ca (DESROCHES C) writes:

I own a pair of MID 5.5's, and LOVE them. I did get custom foot beds, but
I have low arches. I have never had a boot I enjoy more. It has all the
radical adjustments you could ever want, but not as radical as the 8.5 and
banshee. Remember, the Banshee is the XR9 with a see through shell, the
8.5 is the same boot with a slightly softer shell. I recommend the other
two models only if you are familar with racing boots, and are willing to
sacrifice comfort and adjustment for slight performance gain.

I have been told by many "Extreme" style skiers I have met that the
Technica AVT and TNT are the boots to grab.

Personally, I was offered a set of Banshees on a Pro Form. I passed.

n8skier

Adam Robert Zweig

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Nov 10, 1994, 12:21:06 AM11/10/94
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Hey--

I don't know the exact model of my Langes, but I'm in
my second pair now and I love them! I have skied in Nordica,
Soloman, Heierling, and probably some others, and nothing
compares to the way my Langes feel. Right now I have a mid
entry Lange, while I used to have a front entry Lange. Either
way, I highly reccomend them!

Marc Kristopher Guido

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Nov 10, 1994, 12:12:23 PM11/10/94
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>In article <c566.1....@unb.ca>, DESROCHES C <c5...@unb.ca> wrote:
>>I was wondering if anyone out there has had experiences with the Lange boots?
>>I have to get some new boots this year and I've been using Nordica boots for
>>the past few years. I've been looking at the Lange XR 8.5 or the XR
>>Banschee. My buyer's guide tells me the 8.5's are a high performance boot
>>while the other ones tend to be more on the extreme side. I want them to be
>>flexible so I'm gearing up for the extreme ones[ even thou' there is no
>>extreme around here]. I'm about 160 lbs and 6'2". I heard the Lange's were
>>a good boot for lighter skiers. Does anyone have any input for me or
>>experience with Lange boots? Any advice is appreciated, thanx.

I've got a 2-year-old pair of the X8 boots, the precursor to the XR8.5. I'm
5'8", 132 lbs, and being that small I simply don't have the strength or body
mass to flex the XR9 sufficiently. As another poster said, the Banshee is new
this year, so I can't comment on those. I have an average to slightly narrow
foot, and the Langes fit well once some ankle pocket problems were solved with
a small pronation lift.

That last sentence leads me to my final point: buy the boots at a shop with
an experienced, reputable bootfitter. A nip here, a tuck there can make a
world of difference. Without it, a great boot can be as crummy as the worst
that's out there.

BTW, the Lange's have phenomenal edge sensitivity. I'm really impressed, and
have switched my brand allegiance to Lange!
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Jonathan Dirrenberger

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Nov 11, 1994, 2:13:26 PM11/11/94
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It sounds to me, that at 6'2'' and 160 lbs, the XR9 would be too much too
handle. But then again, I think I've discovered that taller people, even
though they may not be as strong as someone of the same weight but smaller,
they get more leverage on the boot and are able to really dig in and flex
the boot. If you've ever noticed, a lot of the best slalom skiers are sort
of tall lanky people (obviously not all). I think you can really angulate
as well. Anyway, I'm getting a pair of XR9's, and I'm 6' and 160lbs. I was
worried that they would be too much, but now I dont' think they will. It
totally depends on how you ski. I race, so I really want performance even
if my boot hurts my foot (and shins). But I can't emphasize how important
it is to get your boot fitted properly. I've skiied for many a year, but it
took until last year (my 8th year) to totally understand how boots are
suppossed to fit. You'd be really surprised at how little most people know
about how a boot is supposed to fit. A quick little summary... First of
all, performance and comfort don't mix. Obviously, you can get the best of
both worlds, a nice happy medium, but it will never be the most comfortable
and never the best performing boot. It's like with cars: a corvette can
handle a turn much much better than a Cadillac because it's suspension is so
stiff, but the slightest little bump will put your head through the sun roof
of the Corvette while you could take a speed bump at 60 mph in a Cadillac
and think you hit a crack in the road. Same with ski boots. Notice that
the first think every World Cup racer does when he gets to the finish of his
run is to reach done and unbuckle his boots. that's because they're not
comfortable, in fact his/her foot is probably throbbing, but they don't
care, they wont to perfrom the best and don't want their equipment limiting
them. Most people aren't quite that extreme, but it's the general idea that
counts. So when you're buying a boot, like the XR9, always keep in mind
that it's _going_ to stretch, there's just no way around it. But you're
boot small if you want a boot that performs well. If your serious and/or
race, you're boot should cause a little pain when you're trying it on.
Obvioulsy, you don't want your toes gnarled up inside the boot, but it must
be really, really snug. I guarantee it will stretch out and then it will be
the perfect fit. The number one problem with most people's boots is that
they are way too big. That can cause shin problems, beside the obvious
performance disadvantages. Now, on the other hand, if you want a boot that
you can free ski in for 10 hours 5 days a week with a couple of friends,
dont' buy something that is geared for a racer. Buy the boot so that it's a
little looser when you try it on. Of course it will stretch too, but the
lose of performance from the air space in the boot caused by the stretching
isn't as important as the comfort in this case.
That's basically the most important part of boot-fitting: the boot
will stretch. Most people don't seem to understand this. It's amazing how
something so important gets so little attention. As for XR9's, they're a
pretty stiff boot geared towards racing or somebody who doesn't want a boot
that will limit his ability and is willing to give up some comfort. it's
just one of those things in life... Hope I could help,.

Jonathan Dirrenberger
jd0...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu

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Andy Mason

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Nov 13, 1994, 5:35:51 PM11/13/94
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Jonathan Dirrenberger (jd0...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu) wrote:
a lot.

> That's basically the most important part of boot-fitting: the boot
> will stretch. Most people don't seem to understand this. It's amazing how

On average, the liner will get about 1/4 size bigger.

Andy.

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