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J Green

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Nov 24, 1993, 12:53:50 PM11/24/93
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apologies if this has already been discussed, i haven't read this group as
much as i'd like to lately... i didn't see any mention (in the last 400+
postings!) of the Dare to Air video (ordered after reading the write-up in
a recent issue of InLine magazine)... so i figured i'd add my comments! i
got a little bored with the ramp scenes (possibly has something to do with
not having any ramps around here! ;-) but i thoroughly enjoyed the city
skating, the stair-bashing was awesome! :-) i especially liked the
stairbashing in the spiral staircase! very cool! :-)

has anyone else seen it? does anyone else wish to be able to skate like
this?
(besides me i mean :-)
keep skating and eat lots of turkey-day food...
Janice

Marty Hall

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Nov 30, 1993, 12:46:43 PM11/30/93
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Janice Green (Janice...@brown.edu) writes:
>apologies if this has already been discussed, i haven't read this group as
>much as i'd like to lately... i didn't see any mention (in the last 400+
>postings!) of the Dare to Air video (ordered after reading the write-up in
>a recent issue of InLine magazine)... [...]

It is certainly the best "stunt" inline video I've seen, although that
only amounts to 2 or 3. The street skating scenes (through Manhattan
traffic!), tricks (flip over a parked convertible, rail slides, etc.), and
stair bashing (about 10 flights of about 10+ stairs each) were truly
outstanding. The video features Chris Edwards, one of the (the?) best inline
stunt skaters around. There was also one fun series of wipeouts. The
producer, Shon Tomlin, is familiar with rec.skate and the Internet, and
helpful and friendly on the phone when you mail order. At $19, this is
definitely a bargain. I haven't heard of any video at any price with
halt the stunts.

There were a few downsides, however. The half-pipe scenes dominated the
film, and I personally got a bit tired of them. There were no scenes
with "artistic" skating; even cones (trick slalom) is not considered
"hard core" enough. In fact, an ad in a magazine they sent along for
free said "Burn the lycra, sell the cones, buy the [Dare to Air] video."
I also felt they tried too hard to be "rad". They included little clips of
old science movies purely to be bizarre, but it came across a bit forced
to me. Including scenes with a surfer/frat type sticking his head under a
water machine then laughing uproariously seemed a bit childish to me as well.

But you won't see scenes like that anywhere else, at least not yet.

- Marty
(proclaim '(inline skates))

Andy Wardley

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Dec 1, 1993, 10:50:20 AM12/1/93
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Marty Hall writes:
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>[Dare to Air] is certainly the best "stunt" inline video I've seen...

[...deleted...]

OK, stupid question coming up: "Where can I get a copy for UK (PAL) format?"

Oh, I can't? No kidding! Sounds cool though.

Sad
Andy

J Green

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Dec 1, 1993, 11:33:06 AM12/1/93
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In article <CHD5B...@dsbc.icl.co.uk>, a...@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Andy Wardley)
wrote:

> >[Dare to Air] is certainly the best "stunt" inline video I've seen...
>
> [...deleted...]
>
> OK, stupid question coming up: "Where can I get a copy for UK (PAL) format?"
>
> Oh, I can't? No kidding! Sounds cool though.

maybe this is a stupid question, but i don't know so i'll ask. what is UK
(PAL) format? is it like Beta?! ;-) seriously, it comes VHS and is an
*extremely* cool video. i totally agree that the pipe stuff drags on, more
(all!) street skating would have been better. fast-forward does wonders!
sure love watching those spiral stairbashers,
Janice 8-)

David Madeo

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Dec 1, 1993, 6:10:56 PM12/1/93
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> There were a few downsides, however. The half-pipe scenes dominated the
> film, and I personally got a bit tired of them. There were no scenes

The film featured Chris Edwards who is probably the best in the world
skating ramp. That's probably why they focused on ramp. Also, ramp
is the most specialized type of stunt skating right now. Depending on
your outlook, it's the most

> with "artistic" skating; even cones (trick slalom) is not considered
> "hard core" enough. In fact, an ad in a magazine they sent along for

Slalom isn't really considered part of the "trick" or "stunt" skating
scene. That's not to say it isn't interesting

> free said "Burn the lycra, sell the cones, buy the [Dare to Air] video."
> I also felt they tried too hard to be "rad". They included little clips of
> old science movies purely to be bizarre, but it came across a bit forced
> to me. Including scenes with a surfer/frat type sticking his head under a
> water machine then laughing uproariously seemed a bit childish to me as well.

The "surfer/frat" type was none other than Chris Edwards who you
agreed was one of the best skaters around. The science experiments
were a bit much.

They actually came out with a second video in the Groove series. It's
called cyberskate or something and rumor has it marked as pretty bad.


I guess the thing I'd like is to see a video try to explain the
various moves on the ramp. The reason it got boring after 40 minutes
of watching the ramp scenes is that unless you know what you're
looking for, it's hard to follow.

So, it would be cool if Chris said: "doing a McTwist is really hard.
First you rotate this direction, then you spin under. Extra points if
you grab your skates through your legs while rotating." Then he
showed you what he was talking about. It's one thing to just show
Chris ripping and having a great time and for a while, it's fun to
watch. But it would also be nice to learn what they're trying to do,
what it's called, and why it's so hard.

dmadeo

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Andy Wardley

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Dec 2, 1993, 6:39:18 AM12/2/93
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Janice...@brown.edu (J Green) writes:
>In article <CHD5B...@dsbc.icl.co.uk>, a...@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Andy Wardley)
>wrote:
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>> OK, stupid question coming up: "Where can I get a copy for UK (PAL) format?"
>
>maybe this is a stupid question, but i don't know so i'll ask. what is UK
>(PAL) format? is it like Beta?! ;-) seriously, it comes VHS and is an
>*extremely* cool video. i totally agree that the pipe stuff drags on, more
>(all!) street skating would have been better. fast-forward does wonders!
>sure love watching those spiral stairbashers,

The video format is still VHS over here (Beta never really took off), but
the actual picture encoding (or whatever) is PAL format as opposed to
NTSC which you get in the States. Needless to say, one won't work with the
other, although it is possible to convert the two with special equipment.

CHeers
Andy

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