Inline: Straight-leg cantilever?
Tommy Williams
of the women figure skaters, including Nancy Kerrigan and Oksana Bayul.
They placed their skates with a 180-degree angle between them (one pointing
to the left, one to the right), and, with legs straight, leaned on the back
edges and skated for a few seconds. This is similar to a cantilever, except
standing up with straight legs. Can this be done on inline skates?
I'm not good enough to do it -- yet ;) -- but I would like to know if it is
possible before I try.
On a similar thread, I know there are many things possible on ice that
can't be done on inline skates. Are there any things that inline skaters
can do that ice skaters cannot? No smart replies about going down (or up)
hills, jumping curbs, and all the other obstacles that come from being on
the road instead of on ice, please. :)
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Jon Snook
In a previous article, 71324...@compuserve.com (Tommy Williams) says:
>They placed their skates with a 180-degree angle between them (one pointing
>to the left, one to the right), and, with legs straight, leaned on the back
>edges and skated for a few seconds. This is similar to a cantilever, except
>standing up with straight legs. Can this be done on inline skates?
>
>I'm not good enough to do it -- yet ;) -- but I would like to know if it is
>possible before I try.
This is possible. A friend and I have managed to do it with our skates
quite close together. Something like they do in the olympics with their
feet wide apart, leaning back and going in a circular formation is most
likely still possible but would take some practice (and you'd probably
fall on your ass a few times!).
>On a similar thread, I know there are many things possible on ice that
>can't be done on inline skates. Are there any things that inline skaters
>can do that ice skaters cannot? No smart replies about going down (or up)
I wouldn't try a triple lutz, double toe loop combination if you ask me. :)
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George Robbins
> I'm not sure exactly what to call this move, but I saw it used by a couple
> of the women figure skaters, including Nancy Kerrigan and Oksana Bayul.
> They placed their skates with a 180-degree angle between them (one pointing
> to the left, one to the right), and, with legs straight, leaned on the back
> edges and skated for a few seconds. This is similar to a cantilever, except
> standing up with straight legs. Can this be done on inline skates?
These are basically "spread eagles" - they are harder to do with straight
legs and the "leaning backwards" is particularly difficult since you are really
talk about more than 180-degree offset.
You can do them on in-lines, but the degree is dependent on your bone/joint
structure and whatever amount of flexibility you can get from stretching and
excercise.
BE CAREFUL - any efforts in this direction need to be taken slowly and
cautiously, after a good warm up. It is easy to do yourself serious
damage/pain by careless stretching or trying to twist you knees instead
of swiveling from the hips.
The most commonly seen excercise is (after warnming up) to stand facing a
a wall and gradually stretch to get your feet parallel to the wall. After
a while, you should be able to do a spread-eagle around a circle of small
radius and then gradually straighten out as you get more limber.
> On a similar thread, I know there are many things possible on ice that
> can't be done on inline skates. Are there any things that inline skaters
> can do that ice skaters cannot? No smart replies about going down (or up)
> hills, jumping curbs, and all the other obstacles that come from being on
> the road instead of on ice, please. :)
That's debatable. Both work from the same principle, in that motion is
contrained in one direction and free in the other, so that a small/slow
motion in the constrained direction results in a long/fast motion in the
free direction (physics: inclined plane, backwards). The ice skate gets
its contraint from digging an edge into the ice, the in-line from the
sideways resistance of the wheels on the surface.
Unfortunatly, the ice skates have some advantages over in-lines.
1) a toe pick is needed to help lauch a lot of the standard jumps -
most in-lines don't have these.
2) the ice blades sideways resistance can be "released" simply by
holding the blade verticle so the edge doesn't dig in.
3) the curved profile of the ice blade allow varying the natural
turn radius depeding on whether you put your weight forwards
or back on the blade.
4) you can "spin" on a single point on the blade with only a slight
forward shift, vs getting up on your toes on the inline.
There may be some moves where you can put the sideways resistance
of the in-lines to advantage or things like heel/toe rolling, but
most of the "unique" things you want to do on inlines are the ones
that take advantage of the flexibility in terrain.
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scottw
: I'm not sure exactly what to call this move, but I saw it used by a couple
: of the women figure skaters, including Nancy Kerrigan and Oksana Bayul.
: They placed their skates with a 180-degree angle between them (one pointing
: to the left, one to the right), and, with legs straight, leaned on the back
: edges and skated for a few seconds. This is similar to a cantilever, except
: standing up with straight legs. Can this be done on inline skates?
I can't do it because my legs don't seem to be able to bend that way and
hold. However, a few friends of mine can do it. They said that at one
time their legs didn't bend that way but if you keep pushing them, they
eventually will. I'm yet to actually practice this hard enough to do it.
But, in addition to just riding with a 180-degree angle between their
inlines, they also started doing stairs in that position. It looks odd
but funky.
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Angeli Wahlstedt
scottw <sco...@wam.umd.edu> wrote:
>Tommy Williams (71324...@compuserve.com) wrote:
>: I'm not sure exactly what to call this move, but I saw it used by a couple
>: of the women figure skaters, including Nancy Kerrigan and Oksana Bayul.
>: They placed their skates with a 180-degree angle between them (one pointing
>: to the left, one to the right), and, with legs straight, leaned on the back
>: edges and skated for a few seconds. This is similar to a cantilever, except
>: standing up with straight legs. Can this be done on inline skates?
Are you talking about a spread eagle?
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Tommy Williams
Wahlstedt) wrote:
> Are you talking about a spread eagle?
I guess that's it. Thanks for the terminology.
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Fiona McQuarrie
Ina Bauer, after the skater who invented it.
Fiona McQuarrie
fmcq...@atlas.cs.upei.ca
Dynastar
the other, here's another one for you.
try riding on both your front wheels. Try it both frontwards and
backwards. Looks funky.
Tommy Williams
wrote:
> I'm trying to be able to travel in a straight line traveling on only my
> heel wheels with my feet 180 degrees apart. Don't think that could be
> done on ice skates?
Nor could some of the toe-heel, and toe-toe moves talked about in this
thread. At least, I don't think so. Since I don't ice skate...
I've seen a guy go down stairs with his skates spread 180 degrees. Pretty
cool.
I'm still trying to ride down stairs in any fashion whatsoever.
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