Randy F. Milak, M.D.?
icediver
continually uses bad grammar (mistaking who for whom, its for it's,
your for you're, etc.) and continually displays a lack of basic
physiology (not knowing gas density increases with depth, or
thinking that time and depth of dive are irrelevant to DCS).
So I ask anybody in this newsgroup, let me see proof of Milak's
credential. Any proof that he is an M.D. He is not listed under
physicians in Canada or the United States, not in the Undersea
& Hyperbaric Medical Society, not even in the Yellow Pages. He
does live in Windsor, Ontario, and that is confirmed, even with
street address. A couple posters here seem to think he is a
doctor, and he does apparently work in a hyperbaric lab.
But nobody could be so stupid, vulgar, and uncivil, and actually
be a physician. It just doesn't seem possible. Now somebody show
me some proof, and just maybe I'll show Milak a tad more respect.
Till then, he remains one of my favorite whipping boys.
Icediver
(Michael J. Black, M.D.)
Popeye
>But nobody could be so stupid, vulgar, and uncivil, and actually
>be a physician.
Doesn't seem to have stopped you!
Whoo Hooo Ewe!
Popeye
National Command Authority
Team 3
Jeff Dixon
Ride him cowboy!
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Reef Fish
I am sure Randy can speak for himself ... so I am speaking for MYSELF.
> I cannot believe this possible. I have never known an M.D. who
> continually uses bad grammar (mistaking who for whom, its for it's,
> your for you're, etc.)
icediver, ANYTHING is possible, having seen YOU.
He probably makes typos too. "Continually"? It's a sure sign someone
is bankrupt in substance when he starts on grammar and spellings.
> and continually displays a lack of basic
> physiology (not knowing gas density increases with depth, or
> thinking that time and depth of dive are irrelevant to DCS).
He certainly knows all those things. You TWISTED what he had to say.
Besides, what he said about ascent RATE was the most relevant thing
in the passage you didn't cite, but chose to misrepresent.
> So I ask anybody in this newsgroup, let me see proof of Milak's
> credential.
SHEEPSKINS are irrelevant, icediver, in this case. It's what he SAYS
that counts. Whether Randy is an M.D. or just a newly cert high
school kid matters not. What he said about the SUBJECT in question
(the final 30 feet of ascent) was spots on.
> But nobody could be so stupid, vulgar, and uncivil, and actually
> be a physician. It just doesn't seem possible. >
> Icediver
> (Michael J. Black, M.D.)
You have just given proof in the four lines above that it IS possible!
-- Bob.
Wade Norton
Very well said!!
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icediver
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> And what would predispose us to show you respect when you post the
> following?
Posting history, you can judge for yourself. And I am still waiting for
Gilligan
"icediver" <iced...@chorus.net> wrote in message
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Ross Bagley
> iced...@chorus.net (icediver) wrote:
[...snip...]
> > So I ask anybody in this newsgroup, let me see proof of Milak's
> > credential.
>
> SHEEPSKINS are irrelevant, icediver, in this case. It's what he SAYS
> that counts. Whether Randy is an M.D. or just a newly cert high
> school kid matters not. What he said about the SUBJECT in question
> (the final 30 feet of ascent) was spots on.
>
> > But nobody could be so stupid, vulgar, and uncivil, and actually
> > be a physician. It just doesn't seem possible. >
> > Icediver
> > (Michael J. Black, M.D.)
>
> You have just given proof in the four lines above that it IS possible!
Bob,
I owe you a beer. I haven't laughed that hard in a while.
Thank you,
Ross
-- Ross Bagley http://rossbagley.com/rba
"Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature...
Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." -- Helen Keller
Lee Sanders
"Ross Bagley" <ro...@rossbagley.com> wrote in message
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> Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com (Reef Fish) writes:
>
> > iced...@chorus.net (icediver) wrote:
>
> [...snip...]
>
> > > So I ask anybody in this newsgroup, let me see proof of Milak's
> > > credential.
> >
> > SHEEPSKINS are irrelevant, icediver, in this case. It's what he SAYS
> > that counts. Whether Randy is an M.D. or just a newly cert high
> > school kid matters not. What he said about the SUBJECT in question
> > (the final 30 feet of ascent) was spots on.
> >
> > > But nobody could be so stupid, vulgar, and uncivil, and actually
> > > be a physician. It just doesn't seem possible.
Call one up in the middle of the night asking for instructions because
he/she left specific intructions and then expects you to be clairvoyent at
0200 about what they actually meant. As a RN for nearly 20 years I can say
that MDs are people and can be as stupid, vulgar and uncivil as any other
single group and because of their arrogance, they can usually excel better
than most. Just a thought from one professional to another. It's not the
"degree" that makes the person but the person who decides what character he
or she will express regardless of formal education. Nurses are no exception
to the rule either.
--
Lee Sanders
"Believe on the Lord
and be saved."
DIR Dennis (Icarus)
"icediver" <iced...@chorus.net> wrote in message news:21ee0662.02101...@posting.google.com...
<snip>
> But nobody could be so stupid, vulgar, and uncivil, and actually
> be a physician. It just doesn't seem possible. Now somebody show
C'mon, icediver, just look in the mirror.
> me some proof, and just maybe I'll show Milak a tad more respect.
> Till then, he remains one of my favorite whipping boys.
See, that's where you're wrong. respect is not deserved, merely because one has a grouyp of initials after ones name. Respect has to
be earned, with the expression of ones ideas, etc.
This is why, for example, Popeye, has a great deal of respect from many members of this group, while you, on the other hand.....
I do congratulate you on not delving into your typical name-changing. Got a new meds?
Dennis
Randy F. Milak
Nice bait. I especially like the header...very handsome, thank you! What's
interesting here is that Mike Black will only give respect to someone with a
medical degree. Hmmmm? He must be one lonely guy, huh? So tell us, what makes
you think I either want, desire, or need to solicit your respect? Although
flattered that you'd like to get to know me better, I assure you its not
reciprocal. Your approval rating is equally unnecessary, regardless of how
important you think you are. I'm not here looking for buddies or companionship
either. I would absolutely encourage everyone to compare my posting history to
yours and see for themselves what may or may not be credible. Ad homiem attacks
are all too easy aren't they? Much easier than say... posting something
intelligent?
FTR, in all of my time here at rec.scuba I have never submitted my resume,
professionally, diving or otherwise, nor do I ever intend to. I'm neither hiding
nor anonymous mind you. I'm simply not here for a job, nor am I here to have my
life debated by some loser like Black. Quite frankly, I don't believe anyone here
is even remotely qualified to comment on my professional status or abilities for
even one nanosecond. My profession or ability to act upon such is not up for
debate; and especially not by someone whom lacks such ethical fortitude and
credibility such as Michael J. Black. Therefore, I knowingly choose to leave it
absent. For all you know, I'm not even a certified diver and that's fine by me.
I have never shoved, nor will I ever, any credential into any post, as a way to
win a debate or to demoralize another. I have little need or desire to do such.
That is YOUR twisted modus operandi Black, not mine. It matters not to me, how
many degrees an individual has in order to give them respect. It matters not to
me whether a diver has 4 dives or a thousand dives, before I give them respect. I
respect everyone; right up until they give me cause to think/act otherwise.
Michael J. Black, Very Important Person at Large (VIPAL), thinks he's a Nobel
prize winning rocket scientist of world renowned stature and philanthropy who
pretends he rules this NG. Bully yes, Ruler, I think not. Jammer would be pissed
to know of this coup I believe? Well don't sweet it sheepboy, I'm a nobody with a
humble existence, so pay no attention whenever I kick your unintellectual, morally
bankrupt ass. Makes life so much simpler that way. :)
Now, go tend to the flock...I'm off to DEMA tomorrow so good riddance... Oh and
Popeye, keep up the good work!
--
Randy F. Milak
~Nobody at large - or small for that matter!~
Popeye
>Nice bait. I especially like the header...very handsome, thank you!
I notice he starts threads about other people all the time. It's envy. I was
going to say penis envy, but that would require him to have a penis.
> What's interesting here is that Mike Black will only give respect to someone
with a
>medical degree.
His "credentials" are the only way he can validate himself, and his empty,
meaningless life. I'm sure no one where he works respects him unless being
forced. Ever notice the incompetant physicians being really rude to the nurses,
because that's the only place they can get away with it? He's the ultimate
damaged ego.
Like his 1000 dive brag, and how he likes to point out others' recent certs.
His thousand dives are since '77, about 40 a year. Whooo Hooo, it's the
reincarnation of Cousteau.
Or was that Clouseau?
Anyway,
>That is YOUR twisted modus operandi Black, not mine.
You gotta wonder about someone who criticizes others for posting a lot, but
has himself posted to -at least- 8 different newsgroups in the last month or so
(including, get this- Alt.rural!).
Showing that he spends the time to read 8 different groups!
That's not even counting sockpuppets and/or alternate personalities.
>Now, go tend to the flock...
Gives a whole new meaning to "going over the wire"...
>I'm off to DEMA tomorrow
Say hi to everyone for me!
>so good riddance... Oh and Popeye, keep up the good work!
Just like this huge stump I have down in the yard (same I.Q. as MJB). I leave
an axe in it, and take a few swings from day to day. The stump knows I have all
the time in the world, and it knows who'll win in the end.
As long as I can draw a breath. And just think... I get to meet him soon...
Hehehehe.
Popeye
>From: buzcu...@aol.com (Popeye)
>Date: 10/19/02 10:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20021019221134...@mb-fb.aol.com>
A work of art like that deserves a work of art like this:
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From: Popeye (buzcu...@aol.comByte-me)
Subject: Re: DR. BLACK, THE SACLESS HACKING QUACK
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Date: 2002-04-11 16:44:10 PST
>From: iced...@chorus.net (spineless whining eunuch)
>Date: 4/9/02 11:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <21ee0662.02040...@posting.google.com>
<hack embarrasing, humiliating, whining (sacless) diatribe>
Well, Elmer, the vote's in, and you been re-elected (International) NewsGroup
Buffoon by a landslide.
Secondary honors as International Joke Butt.
I get the warm fuzzies making you look stupid, especially since, as I've
pointed out numerous times, you do every bit of the work (this particular
example could only be described as "precious", or perhaps, "legendary").
I can, and will, make a career out of this.
Because I'm an Artiste'.
With great range and depth.
With a never ending supply of material provided by the subject.
Like your two friends, it's just not possible for you to stop. And like them,
you've established too many documented patterns to be mis-interpreted. You're
an open book of pathetic assaninity. And hate, Doc.
Hate.
So much so, your sockpuppets, nine so far, are easily recognizable in a few
posts. Because you can't help yourself. In a reflection of your tattered ego,
the sockpuppets always start extolling the "virtues" of the "wonderful" MJB.
Really.
Honestly.
Don't you see that as sick? Really, really sick?
We sure do. Run that by your therapy team.
What led you down this psychotic, schizophrenic path? Was it the bald thing? I
don't want to shatter your fragile existence, but I got news for ya Doc.
Bald's been "in" since "The Next Generation".
And All. This. Has. Been. For. Nothing.
Like your buds, you continually whine about the newsgroup as a whole,
hundreds of times, but come back here every week in a crystal clear reflection
of your pathetically empty life.
Bragging about your expensive, exclusive dives (no one cares, or is envious,
no matter what you hope), while we're busy diving and partying together.
Friends, Doc, friends, what you and the other loners don't have.
One trip in that tropical ghetto Palau would cover three trips to Florida, or
-five- to N.C..
And you don't have to worry about the motel hot tub being the kettle they
used to -boil- travelers in.
I'd give a pretty penny to talk to your ex-wife. Oh, -baby-, wouldn't that be
educational (she's probably institutionalized, if she survived the ordeal.).
I always had you pegged as nasty-mean, little man syndrome, and I'm sure you
pick on the nurses at work because they don't have any choice. You're that
small and petty. The only control in life you command (I feel particularly
sorry for any pets you own).
(I bet your mom even hates you, because she's on the short list of people you
can dominate.)
But I was wrong. You're an insecure little dipshit, the kind of kid who got
beat up a lot at school for geekiness. You've done an excellent job of making
yourself look shamefully pathetic. You've reached a low in credibility and
integrity that may never again be approached in the history of Rec.scuba.
Good news for RAT BASTARD, he's no longer the biggest scumbag on the
internet.
All over you welshing on a bet, and being called out as a liar YET AGAIN.
Like your spineless cohorts, the one reason you could never affect me in any
way, is because people on different lists and AROUND THE WORLD know
-absolutely- that you'd never dare meet me, or say anything to my face.
Little bald man.
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Shawn Kelly
and he holds too many certificates. I would say that anything he says
is gospel.
Jack Farmer
a doctor.
hehe
WAY TO GO icediver.
Your foot in mouth has struck again.
Safe Diving.
L8R
Matthias Voss
Popeye schrieb:
>
> I notice he starts threads about other people all the time. It's envy. I was
> going to say penis envy, but that would require him to have a penis.
Is this a reference to SPG placement ?
Matthias
Jack Farmer
Jack Farmer
Certainly NOT RESPECT.
Maybe a bucked of sheep shit?
Laser
" How's the bet going with that sheepmounting asshole? "
Popeye
>From: iced...@chorus.net (icediver)
>I cannot believe this possible. I have never known an M.D. who
>continually uses bad grammar (mistaking who for whom, its for it's,
>your for you're, etc.) and continually displays a lack of basic
>physiology (not knowing gas density increases with depth, or
>thinking that time and depth of dive are irrelevant to DCS).
>
>Icediver
>(Michael J. Black, M.D.)
>
More of the same, this from Billy W in Australia.
Black got bored, and went to the techlist, where he received resounding
accolades.
----- Original Message -----
From: <bi...@v3.com.au>
To: <tech...@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 12:42 AM
Subject: The Best of Dr Michael J Black
> Let's have a look at some of the Best of Dr Michael J Black...
>
>
> Black (a non trimix diver), on the safest deep-diving project in the world...
>
> At 01:38 16/02/00 , Michael J. Black wrote:
> >(WKPP divers are going to get hurt, and are lucky to have made it this far
>
>
> Black - on choosing the right boat for technical diving....
>
> At 01:15 1/03/00 , mjbl...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >as a fellow boat owner I too frown upon doubles in my boat.
> >If I wore my double steel 112's, I would break my boat ladder
>
>
> Black, on the drawbacks of doubles...
>
> At 07:40 31/05/00 , Michael J Black wrote:
> >Do you techno-weenies have a clue how despised you
> >are by some boat captains, with all your gear clanging around?
>
>
> Black, on the agencies that killed most tech divers...
>
> At 08:12 16/05/00 , mjbl...@yahoo.com wrote:
> The agencies that have been in the business longest have enviable
> safety records, a testimonial to their quality of instruction, given
> the inherent dangers involved in scuba.
>
>
> Black, on the benefits of precarious gear rigging...
>
> At 11:23 8/11/99 , Michael J. Black wrote:
> My preference is to not clip the SPG to my left hip or chest D-rings. I
> prefer to tuck the SPG on a long hose into my butt crack. That's right,
> between my legs, in the butt crack, which cradles the thing nicely, and I
> know where it is at all times by feel.
>
>
> Black "If I can't dive without a computer no-one else should"...
>
> At 12:59 25/07/00 , Dr Michael J. Black wrote:
> >While we're on the subject of DIR, here are a few more of my "esteemed"
> >objections: No computer (HELLO??!!),
>
>
> Black - A Dive Legend In His Own Mind...
>
> At 13:07 16/05/00 , MJB wrote:
> > As for my diving credentials, they've been posted too, but
> >let's just say I dive alot (over twenty years, and 1000 logged dives
> >in the last ten) and in fact, I'm going diving tonight after work.
>
>
> Black, on why he is an ignorant little drip-tray...
>
> At 02:12 26/05/00 , Michael J. Black wrote:
> >I am not trimix-certified
>
>
> Since he pretends to be an authority on mix diving, let's have that one
again...
>
> At 02:12 26/05/00 , Michael J. Black wrote:
> I am not trimix-certified
>
>
> Black's alternative to intelligent gear rigging...
>
> At 03:07 26/07/00 , Michael J. Black wrote:
> >As for better systems, mine works well and is quite simple: no dives
> >below 220 feet, using a large primary, a 30cf (or 40cf) pony, and
> >40cf sling bottle(s) if needed. No doubles, and no dives that require
> >more than 45 minutes of deco
>
>
> Black, on hanging seven pieces of equipment off the HP hose...
>
> At 11:23 8/11/99 , Michael J. Black wrote:
> I often have to reach for the SPG (which is mounted to a console, that
> has a compass, knife, scissors, computer, slate, depth gauge, pencil)
> mainly to read my compass. My usual diving is in freshwater lakes in
> Wisconsin, with poor visibility (yesterday vis was 3 feet in Lake Mendota,
> Madison, WI) and I rely on my compass for underwater navigation on a
> regular basis.
>
>
> Black knows better than the US Navy...
>
> At 10:49 1/02/00 , Michael J. Black wrote:
> >Thanks for posting the Navy info. Frankly that is amazing, and makes
> >me wonder who's making the rules in the U.S. Navy.
>
>
> Black, on how to choose the right regulator (like, ask someone who's
> sponsored by a reg manufacturer)...
>
> At 04:49 16/02/00 , Michael J. Black wrote:
> >Simon L Hartley <shar...@scu.edu.au> wrote:
> > > Is the R190 actually a better performing reg than the D400?
> >
> >This would be a great question for Jim Bowden, who currently holds
> >the world depth record on open-circuit Scuba. Having spoken with
> >him personally about this, I can tell you that he likes both regs
>
>
> Black on "to be as stupid as me, learn from the worst in the business..."
>
> At 01:48 1/06/00 , Michael J. Black wrote:
> >As for my "extreme ignornat stupidity" were you referring to the pony
> >bottle with pO2 1.9 debate? Thought so, and just FYI here is what TDI
> >says in one of their coursebooks (authored I believe by Jan Neal, who
> >IS a BEST diver, i.e. absent from this list):
> >"A small volume scuba cylinder of EAN39 carried with a diver for a
> >decompression gas can also be a redundant gas supply. In the event
> >that the primary gas supply is exhausted, the diver can switch to
> >EAN39 and make a normal ascent. If this emergency occurred at 130 fsw,
> >the pO2 for EAN39 would be 1.92 ATA.
>
>
> Black boasts coyly about his deep air experience...
>
> At 02:12 26/05/00 , Michael J. Black wrote:
> >I will not divulge how deep I have been on air, as if I haven't been
> >crucified enough already.
>
>
> Black forgets he just boasted coyly about his deep air experience...
>
> At 02:12 26/05/00 , Michael J. Black wrote:
> >I am not trimix-certified, and believe it or not, one reason is I have
> >an objection to TDI's requirement that Extended Range (on air) precede
> >Trimix.
>
>
> Black on diving medicine - "Ignore the Pros. Trust Me Instead. I'm A
Hobbyist"...
>
> At 02:12 26/05/00 , Michael J. Black wrote:
> >Diving medicine has been a second hobby, and I have
> >been fortunate to have learned from some experts, whose names have
> >already been bashed on this list, so keep guessing.
>
>
> Black, the truly clueless, never lets ignorance hold him back...
>
> At 23:09 28/04/00 , Michael J. Black wrote:
> If you're going to dive Hogarthian, the long hose (5 or 7-foot)
> should go under the right arm and around the neck. This makes
> sense in caves, for air sharing.
> In wrecks, I have a problem with it in that the length of hose
> represents an entanglement hazard. I prefer a 40-inch primary
> hose, and recommend bungying your long octo to your tank(s), or
> even diving with a 40-inch octo hose realizing that your buddy's
> going to have to ride your ass in an air-sharing emergency.
>
>
> Black, on not knowing shit from clay...
>
> At 12:59 25/07/00 , Dr Michael J. Black wrote:
> >While we're on the subject of DIR, here are a few more of my "esteemed"
> >objections: Scubapro regulators (do you turds know we call these
> >Scubaflows in cold water, and I mean icy cold). Want
> >a better system? Start over, unless cave diving is your only diving.
>
>
> Black "You need lots of dive experience to talk to me (cause I don't have
any)"...
>
> At 02:32 19/07/00 , Michael J. Black wrote:
> You're a wannabe, lying, sniveling, loudmouthed, ranting POS, DIR's
> poster boy. Suck it up, weenie. Or better yet, try logging a few dives,
> puppy. MJB
>
>
> Black finally demonstrates his true level of diving expertise. Fish
feeding...
>
> > > What is good to use. Someone suggested cheese-wiz, but this seems a
> > > bit unearthy to me. Any comments on this.
> >Well if you must know, Nabisco Easy Cheese. It comes in a can and
> >withstands the hydrostatic pressure from descent, if you get to dive
> >besides snorkel on your trip.
> >Mike Black
>
>
> Thanks for the laughs, buttcrack
>
> rgds billyw
>
> ps If any of you would like to supply the gems of buttcrack's ignorance
> that you have collected, send 'em in. I'll compile and repost 'em here and
> on rec.scuba. This moron should have a warning label attached.
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icediver
"Randy F. Milak" <rfm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3DB1F3A2...@yahoo.com>...
DIR Dennis (Icarus)
> Still waiting for that credential...
hmm..perhaps it'd help if you held your breath?
Dennis
>
> "Randy F. Milak" <rfm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3DB1F3A2...@yahoo.com>...
<snip>
Laser
>Still waiting for that credential...
>
It appears as though you can't read. Or possibly you can, but lack
comprehension. Or maybe you need glasses.
Reef Fish
> Still waiting for that credential...
Randy had ALREADY answered you in the post you supposed replied!
Why don't you go answer ME about YOUR credentials so that I can
kick your butt with YOUR own BOOT, and I'll gladly do it,
FOR Randy, while he is at DEMA. :-)
>
> "Randy F. Milak" <rfm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >
( ... snip ...)
> Now, go tend to the flock...I'm off to DEMA tomorrow so good
> riddance... Oh and Popeye, keep up the good work!
icediver, I think it'll be hard for you to top THIS, but you
can try:
MJB> But nobody could be so stupid, vulgar, and uncivil, and
MJB> actually be a physician. It just doesn't seem possible. >
MJB> Icediver
MJB> (Michael J. Black, M.D.)
RF> You have just given proof in the four lines above that it
RF> IS possible!
-- Bob.
Doug Evans
> Popeye
> National Command Authority
> Team 3
And the poopster continues his worship of the entity know as (amongst
other things) "icediver".
Over to laser to jump to his masters defense.
Laser
wrote:
No defense needed. I'm just laughing.
icediver
> credential. Any proof that he is an M.D. He is not listed under
> physicians in Canada or the United States, not in the Undersea
> & Hyperbaric Medical Society, not even in the Yellow Pages.
Still waiting...
Popeye
>Date: 10/20/02 8:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <21ee0662.02102...@posting.google.com>
Hey, stupid, what part of "I'm going to DEMA" don't you understand?
But I did find some credentials for you, you lying, twisting sheepmounting
pedophile:
From: mjbl...@my-deja.com (mjbl...@my-deja.com)
Subject: Re: Headache after diving
View this article only
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Date: 1999/12/06
In article <82g1cq$260$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
trevi...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Has anyone consistently experienced headache a minute or two after
> surfacing? This has only happened to me in the last three dives (all on
> new sites if it matters). The headache disappears after about half an
> hour, sometimes longer. My buddy said he experienced it quite
> frequently. Well, I am taking no chances and am seeing a doctor for
> opinion.
>
> Any diving doctors in the newsgroup?
Trevin,
I am a diving doctor, and after reading your post, can offer this.
You are most likely experiencing CO2-retention headaches. CO2 is a
vasodilator (dilates blood vessels) and a fairly common cause of
bad headaches in divers, particularly novice divers who are trying
hard to decrease their air consumption, and unknowingly building up
CO2. The headaches can be severe and throbbing and last for hours,
even after surfacing. The cure: watch your breathing, breathe
deeply (even at depth), and avoid "skip breathing" (holding your
breath before taking another breath). Don't worry about being an
air hog, despite what your peers think. I used to experience bad
headaches early in my diving career, and when I figured out the
reason, the difference was remarkable (I was a skip breather). One
way to quickly diagnose a CO2-retention headache (though not highly
recommended) is to breathe 100% O2 shortly after surfacing. O2 has
the opposite effect on blood vessels (it is a vasoconstrictor) and
will quickly counteract the vasodilation from CO2. Hope this helps.
Michael J. Black, M.D.
Laser
Oh, this one's a gem!
The lying sheepmeister splayed for all to see.
Laser
Maybe you could have one of your sockpuppets answer for you while
Randy is at DEMA.
Doug Evans...............??
Rich Lockyer
wrote:
>>I am a diving doctor, and after reading your post, can offer this.
>
>
>Oh, this one's a gem!
>The lying sheepmeister splayed for all to see.
There's a subtle difference between an outright lie and deception.
Technically, MJB *IS* a "diving doctor", as in a doctor who dives.
Of course, so is my brother, but he has his PhD in Chemistry, not
Physiology (or Optometry).
Given MJB's credentials, I think the statement was quite misleading.
Though the advice offered was sound (and my first reaction when I read
the original post), the first five words appear to be an attempt to
add credibility over and above the rest of the regulars.
--- Rich
http://richlockyer.tripod.com/
Jack Farmer
Doug Evans
Thanks.
I find the poopster's worship of TEKAAOTID quite amusing too.
Doug
ben bradlee
the clear voice is not needed. Who cares if the guy on the other end of
phone (conversation) can hear what you say? The important thing is that his
vocal cords are vibrating and tongue is flapping.
"Reef Fish" <Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> It's a sure sign someone
> is bankrupt in substance when he starts on grammar and spellings.
ben bradlee
individuals to gather in like-mind overshadowed fact more than once. The
line of ignorance is darker and bolder in this forum than the fine line of
reason. Caution is cast to the wind of bogus-opinion-leaders, supported by
mindless gnomes. Welcome to rec.scuba. It's truly a challenge getting
anything substantial from this group!
Yes, you should use spell checker. It's not that hard.
"DIR Dennis (Icarus)" <nojun...@ever.invalid> wrote in message
news:ur3tc7g...@corp.supernews.com...
> a grouyp
ben bradlee
information. Somehow, though, I question your accolades for one individual
who strives to deprive others of this very right. You encourage the
poopster to keep up the good work? The poopster would deprive everyone on
this group of the very right you claim for yourself. The poopster claims it
is his right to know. Very strange bedfellows!
"Randy F. Milak" <rfm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3DB1F3A2...@yahoo.com...
> FTR, in all of my time here at rec.scuba I have never submitted my resume,
> professionally, diving or otherwise, nor do I ever intend to. I'm neither
hiding
> nor anonymous mind you.
> Oh and Popeye, keep up the good work!
>
Popeye
>Welcome to rec.scuba. It's truly a challenge getting
>anything substantial from this group!
Try and remember that the majority of us aren't burdened by your
comprehension problems, Kenny.
Popeye
>Date: 10/21/02 10:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <ur7t7j5...@corp.supernews.com>
There's that comprehension thing again. Unlike you, he's neither hiding, nor
anonymous.
But of course, I have your name, address, phone number and picture... :-)
Because I'm keeping up the good work.
ben bradlee
of reason.
"Popeye" <buzcu...@aol.com> scribed in dark bold letters:
de Valois
clean up:
>
>>From: "Randy F. Milak" rfm...@yahoo.com
>
>
>>Nice bait. I especially like the header...very handsome, thank you!
>
>going to say penis envy, but that would require him to have a penis.
>
That would turn it from envy to a craving, wouldn't it?
Tao te Carl
Reef Fish
> Technically, MJB *IS* a "diving doctor", as in a doctor who dives.
I resemble that remark!! :-))
> Of course, so is my brother, but he has his PhD in Chemistry, not
> Physiology (or Optometry).
And your brother probably knows much more about diving than MJB too!
When I first read the passage below,
MJB> I used to experience bad
MJB> headaches early in my diving career, and when I figured out the
MJB> reason, the difference was remarkable (I was a skip breather)
I read "skip breather" as "sheep breeder". :-))
That's about the way MJB read MY posts, except he never corrected
himself on his misread, whereas, I quickly caught mine.
I think "sheep breeder" in that sentence fits Mr. Michael J. Black's
expertise, as well as his SheepMeister credentials, MUCH better
though. :-)))
I am still waiting for Dr. Michael J. Black to show HIS credentials.
-- Bob.
LaBomba182
>From: iced...@chorus.net (icediver)
>But nobody could be so stupid, vulgar, and uncivil, and actually
>be a physician. It just doesn't seem possible.
>Icediver
>(Michael J. Black, M.D.)
>
>
Take a look in the mirror.
Capt. Bill
Rich Lockyer
Fish) wrote:
>Rich Lockyer <rloc...@linkline.DONTSPAMME.com> wrote in message news:<v657ruchfa8bdditn...@4ax.com>...
>
>> Technically, MJB *IS* a "diving doctor", as in a doctor who dives.
>
>I resemble that remark!! :-))
Reminds me of when I was kicking back in a bar and a guy started off
on attorneys. "Lawyers are assholes... all lawyers are assholes...
divorce lawyers are the biggest assholes on the planet."
When I told him that I was offended at his remarks, he asked if I was
a lawyer.
"No, I'm an asshole."
>> Of course, so is my brother, but he has his PhD in Chemistry, not
>> Physiology (or Optometry).
>
>And your brother probably knows much more about diving than MJB too!
Probably not... He's actually not active anymore. Work and family
keep him busy enough.
>When I first read the passage below,
>
>MJB> I used to experience bad
>MJB> headaches early in my diving career, and when I figured out the
>MJB> reason, the difference was remarkable (I was a skip breather)
>
>I read "skip breather" as "sheep breeder". :-))
LOL!!!!!!!
>That's about the way MJB read MY posts, except he never corrected
>himself on his misread, whereas, I quickly caught mine.
Or he even flat out ignores posts that he's read and responded to.
>I am still waiting for Dr. Michael J. Black to show HIS credentials.
Ewe might be waiting a while.
--- Rich
http://richlockyer.tripod.com/
icediver
So far, only Shawn Kelly gives an answer, Milak is an OW instructor.
Now that I can believe.
iced...@chorus.net (icediver) wrote in message news:<21ee0662.02101...@posting.google.com>...
> I cannot believe this possible. I have never known an M.D. who
> continually uses bad grammar (mistaking who for whom, its for it's,
> your for you're, etc.) and continually displays a lack of basic
> physiology (not knowing gas density increases with depth, or
> thinking that time and depth of dive are irrelevant to DCS).
>
> So I ask anybody in this newsgroup, let me see proof of Milak's
> credential. Any proof that he is an M.D. He is not listed under
> physicians in Canada or the United States, not in the Undersea
> & Hyperbaric Medical Society, not even in the Yellow Pages. He
> does live in Windsor, Ontario, and that is confirmed, even with
> street address. A couple posters here seem to think he is a
> doctor, and he does apparently work in a hyperbaric lab.
>
> But nobody could be so stupid, vulgar, and uncivil, and actually
> be a physician. It just doesn't seem possible. Now somebody show
> me some proof, and just maybe I'll show Milak a tad more respect.
> Till then, he remains one of my favorite whipping boys.
>
Reef Fish
> There is a cellular phone (I think) commercial that comes to mind. Maybe
> the clear voice is not needed. Who cares if the guy on the other end of
> phone (conversation) can hear what you say? The important thing is that his
> vocal cords are vibrating and tongue is flapping.
Ben,
You've used an extremely poor analogy. In the cases I referred to,
it's PERFECTLY CLEAR what the misspelled word or typo meant to the
nitpicker who is bankrupt in substance and decides to pick on typos
which doesn't confuse ANYONE, not even the nitpicker.
Ben, if someone says to you, "you are teh stupidist asehole on earth",
you would understand it, wouldn't you understand the MEANING? If
you don't, then you're even more obtuse than I thought.
Did anyone not know what Dan Quale meant when he spelled "potatoe"?
-- Bob.
Reef Fish
> On 21 Oct 2002 08:52:06 -0700, Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com (Reef
> Fish) wrote:
>
> >Rich Lockyer <rloc...@linkline.DONTSPAMME.com> wrote in message news:<v657ruchfa8bdditn...@4ax.com>...
> >
> >> Technically, MJB *IS* a "diving doctor", as in a doctor who dives.
> >
> >I resemble that remark!! :-))
>
> Reminds me of when I was kicking back in a bar and a guy started off
> on attorneys. "Lawyers are assholes... all lawyers are assholes...
> divorce lawyers are the biggest assholes on the planet."
>
> When I told him that I was offended at his remarks, he asked if I was
> a lawyer.
>
> "No, I'm an asshole."
I heard that one recently. Not sure if it's an Oldie but it sure
is a Goodie!
How 'bout this one.
Icediver went into a bar and shouted "I know more about diving than
anyone here, and I can whip anyone's ass too." Long silence.
"I know more diving than anyone in this entire CITY, and I can whip
anyone's ass in the entire city too." Silence.
"I know more ... than anyone in this COUNTY, ... " Still Silence.
"I know more ... than anyone in the entire COUNTRY ...". Popeye,
who was sitting at the next barstool, raised his patented Popeye
forearm, floored icediver in one swift punch.
Claimer: Plagiasm un-intended, but substitution of cast of characters
was entirely intentional. :0))
> >When I first read the passage below,
> >
> >MJB> I used to experience bad
> >MJB> headaches early in my diving career, and when I figured out the
> >MJB> reason, the difference was remarkable (I was a skip breather)
> >
> >I read "skip breather" as "sheep breeder". :-))
>
> LOL!!!!!!!
>
> >That's about the way MJB read MY posts, except he never corrected
> >himself on his misread, whereas, I quickly caught mine.
>
> Or he even flat out ignores posts that he's read and responded to.
Very true, like the post Randy Malik responded to MJB!
>
> >I am still waiting for Dr. Michael J. Black to show HIS credentials.
>
> Ewe might be waiting a while.
Ewe(s) and me, but I am not holding my breath though. :-)
-- Bob.
DIR Dennis (Icarus)
> I think you are confusing the "pack mentality" and respect. The ability of
No, I'm not. I'm saying that what you say, and how you express it, has much more to do with whatever initials follows (or precedes)
your name.
> individuals to gather in like-mind overshadowed fact more than once. The
For a short time, but facts will generally win out. :-)
> line of ignorance is darker and bolder in this forum than the fine line of
> reason. Caution is cast to the wind of bogus-opinion-leaders, supported by
> mindless gnomes. Welcome to rec.scuba. It's truly a challenge getting
> anything substantial from this group!
Really? Oddly enough, I don't. :-) Perhaps its your problem, and not the group's?
>
> Yes, you should use spell checker. It's not that hard.
Well, I could use a spell checker, but I do have to leave something for you to whine about. :-)
Dennis
DIR Dennis (Icarus)
Dennis
"ben bradlee" <kjoh...@splitrocktel.net> wrote in message news:ur810ei...@corp.supernews.com...
DIR Dennis (Icarus)
> Still waiting...
Based on what Randy said earlier, you'll have to keep waiting. :-)
Dennis
Popeye
>"I know more ... than anyone in the entire COUNTRY ...". Popeye,
>who was sitting at the next barstool, raised his patented Popeye
>forearm, floored icediver in one swift punch.
:-)
Salty
> Call one up in the middle of the night asking for instructions because
> he/she left specific intructions and then expects you to be clairvoyent at
> 0200 about what they actually meant.
LMAO !! You just know that the doc will do either one of two things :
be apologetic and nice... or else will try to take your head off !!
> As a RN for nearly 20 years I can say
> that MDs are people and can be as stupid, vulgar and uncivil as any other
> single group and because of their arrogance, they can usually excel better
> than most.
Then I say to you, "Hello to fellow RN." :) I passed my state boards
(PA) in 1979 and while I agree that there are some very arrogant
doctors out there who treat nurses like dog shit on their shoe, I must
say that for the most part, they are alright. I've had several tell
me that they enjoyed working with me. Those who are peckerheads can be
trained. I prefer to use the "build-up the ego and then ask the
question" method... and it seems that male doctors respond very well
to me when I do. I've also noticed that doctors do not like to be
challenged (put in their place) in front of their peers.
> Just a thought from one professional to another. It's not the
> "degree" that makes the person but the person who decides what character he
> or she will express regardless of formal education. Nurses are no exception
> to the rule either.
Amen. Nice to meet you Lee. Do you ever get to posting on any of the
newsgroups for nurses ?? As an RN for over 20 years who has been
battling burn-out by taking a sabatical for almost a year that must
end now, and is facing whether or not to continue in our profession, I
wonder if you have any words of wisdom for me... or if you can point
me toward something worthwhile in my search. Thanks and welcome to
rec.scuba.
Salty
> Nice bait. I especially like the header...very handsome, thank you! What's
> interesting here is that Mike Black will only give respect to someone with a
> medical degree.
Since when ?? I've got a medical degree... or are you saying that
nurses don't count ?? :P Furthermore, I don't believe that you've
stated that you're a doctor. Have you ?? Have a good trip and a nice
time at DEMA. :)
<snip>
Salty
> I cannot believe this possible. I have never known an M.D. who
> continually uses bad grammar (mistaking who for whom, its for it's,
> your for you're, etc.) and continually displays a lack of basic
> physiology (not knowing gas density increases with depth, or
> thinking that time and depth of dive are irrelevant to DCS).
Tell me My Good Doctor... when did Milak say that he was an MD ??
> So I ask anybody in this newsgroup, let me see proof of Milak's
> credential. Any proof that he is an M.D. He is not listed under
> physicians in Canada or the United States, not in the Undersea
> & Hyperbaric Medical Society, not even in the Yellow Pages. He
> does live in Windsor, Ontario, and that is confirmed, even with
> street address. A couple posters here seem to think he is a
> doctor, and he does apparently work in a hyperbaric lab.
Yes... he might do work re: a hyperbaric chamber. And so... ??
> But nobody could be so stupid, vulgar, and uncivil, and actually
> be a physician. It just doesn't seem possible. Now somebody show
> me some proof, and just maybe I'll show Milak a tad more respect.
> Till then, he remains one of my favorite whipping boys.
What actually brought on this rant from you ?? Aren't you busy trying
to get in more dives than Pops in order to prove some other obsure
point ??
Dan Bracuk
: I've also noticed that doctors do not like to be
:challenged (put in their place) in front of their peers.
Doctors don't have a monopoly on this. In fact, if a potential result
is any sort of humiliation or loss of dignity, the challenger could be
considered to be impolite.
Dan Bracuk
Toronto, Canada
I'd Rather be Average Than Mean.
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icediver
"Salty" <babet...@hotmail.com> wrote
> Tell me My Good Doctor... when did Milak say that he was an MD ??
Insinuated many times, calling himself a hyperbaric expert, and having
been called doctor by John Francis and hyperbaric physician by Scott Koplin,
to name a few. I doubt that Milak is an M.D., Ph.D., or anything more
than an OW instructor with an ax to grind.
> > So I ask anybody in this newsgroup, let me see proof of Milak's
> > credential. Any proof that he is an M.D. He is not listed under
> > physicians in Canada or the United States, not in the Undersea
> > & Hyperbaric Medical Society, not even in the Yellow Pages.
Still waiting, anybody...
Bob Crownfield
>
> There is a cellular phone (I think) commercial that comes to mind. Maybe
> the clear voice is not needed. Who cares if the guy on the other end of
> phone (conversation) can hear what you say? The important thing is that his
> vocal cords are vibrating and tongue is flapping.
aren't you special.
that explains so much about you.
Jack Farmer
there LIVE SHOULD have floored him.
Safe Diving.
L8R
Jack Farmer
Salty wrote:
> iced...@chorus.net (icediver) wrote in message news:<21ee0662.02101...@posting.google.com>...
>
>
>>I cannot believe this possible. I have never known an M.D. who
>>continually uses bad grammar (mistaking who for whom, its for it's,
>>your for you're, etc.) and continually displays a lack of basic
>>physiology (not knowing gas density increases with depth, or
>>thinking that time and depth of dive are irrelevant to DCS).
>
>
> Tell me My Good Doctor... when did Milak say that he was an MD ??
>
>
>>So I ask anybody in this newsgroup, let me see proof of Milak's
>>credential. Any proof that he is an M.D. He is not listed under
>>physicians in Canada or the United States, not in the Undersea
>>& Hyperbaric Medical Society, not even in the Yellow Pages. He
>>does live in Windsor, Ontario, and that is confirmed, even with
>>street address. A couple posters here seem to think he is a
>>doctor, and he does apparently work in a hyperbaric lab.
>
>
> Yes... he might do work re: a hyperbaric chamber. And so... ??
>
>
>>But nobody could be so stupid, vulgar, and uncivil, and actually
>>be a physician. It just doesn't seem possible. Now somebody show
>>me some proof, and just maybe I'll show Milak a tad more respect.
>>Till then, he remains one of my favorite whipping boys.
>
>
Bell was OFF her feed and had a headache.(The sheep)
hehe
Safe Diving.
L8R
Salty
> "Salty" <babet...@hotmail.com> wrote
> > Tell me My Good Doctor... when did Milak say that he was an MD ??
> Insinuated many times, calling himself a hyperbaric expert, and having
> been called doctor by John Francis and hyperbaric physician by Scott Koplin,
> to name a few.
Ok... so we have JOF and Scott calling Milak a doctor but we don't
have Milak saying that he's a doctor. Personally, I don't think that
insinuations count toward much of anything. If they did, then I should
believe that you are some sheep molester... and I do not believe that
is the case about you. It works both ways you see.
> Still waiting, anybody...
Give it up. Post something here of medical importance that I can be
proud of you for. I know you have it in you. You just choose to dwell
on the flames. Stop it... My Good Doctor. You're better than that.
Salty
> From (Salty)
> : I've also noticed that doctors do not like to be
> :challenged (put in their place) in front of their peers.
>
> Doctors don't have a monopoly on this. In fact, if a potential result
> is any sort of humiliation or loss of dignity, the challenger could be
> considered to be impolite.
As often with you, you are speaking the truth Dan. Thanks for pointing
out that fact. But, unlike most scenerios, challenging a doctor who is
wrong could mean the welfare / benefit of a patient. As a nurse, I
consider it very impolite, among other things, to let my patient
suffer in order for the doctor to save face. So if push comes to
shove... I shove. And yes... it has cost me in the past.
srsp...@hotmail.com
delusional soul off the end?
I don't know him from a hole in the ground.
But pulling wings off flies is just wrong no matter how disgusting
they are.
I would point out posts like this and those that followed.
Pull the group into lower depths than the original offender.
I thought better than that of all of you.
As for the computer geeks remember what is was like to be picked on in
school and be in the not so cool crowded.
What are you doing now?
Years ago you would have taken the bulling and raised above it.
But now that shoe is on the other foot?
You are no better than that of your tormentors of the past.
A bully of might is no different than a bully of mind.
Just a different tool to get the job done.
The job you ask?
To make them feel better about themselves for they suffer from low
self esteem.
For with intellect wouldn't there be compassion for the weak?
Wouldn’t you strive to be the better person.
Shame on all of you.
Be bigger than that.
There is one word for this behavior repugnant.
Steve
On 18 Oct 2002 21:49:45 -0700, iced...@chorus.net (icediver) wrote:
>I cannot believe this possible. I have never known an M.D. who
>continually uses bad grammar (mistaking who for whom, its for it's,
>your for you're, etc.) and continually displays a lack of basic
>physiology (not knowing gas density increases with depth, or
>thinking that time and depth of dive are irrelevant to DCS).
>
>So I ask anybody in this newsgroup, let me see proof of Milak's
>credential. Any proof that he is an M.D. He is not listed under
>physicians in Canada or the United States, not in the Undersea
>& Hyperbaric Medical Society, not even in the Yellow Pages. He
>does live in Windsor, Ontario, and that is confirmed, even with
>street address. A couple posters here seem to think he is a
>doctor, and he does apparently work in a hyperbaric lab.
>
>But nobody could be so stupid, vulgar, and uncivil, and actually
>be a physician. It just doesn't seem possible. Now somebody show
>me some proof, and just maybe I'll show Milak a tad more respect.
>Till then, he remains one of my favorite whipping boys.
>
icediver
Did you mean to spell Dan Quayle? Throwing another stone in that
glass house, Bob?
Since you keep asking, my credentials:
University of Wisconsin Medical School, 1981, M.D.
Indiana University Medical Center, 1985, Ophthalmology
Board certified in Ophthalmology 1986 (91st percentile)
Diving Medicine Continuing Medical Education, 100 credit hours
PADI certified 1976, and diving ever since
Your turn.
Popeye
>From: iced...@chorus.net (icediver)
>Date: 10/22/02 10:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <21ee0662.02102...@posting.google.com>
What do tou call a guy that finishes dead last in his med school class?
Doctor...
Cool game. Pity your list is so, well, narrow.
It's sad that you're only marginally talented in one field.
But I'm sure you're happy at the free clinic.
Certified Master Automotive Technician
Certified Master Autobody Refinisher
Certified Master Engine Machinist
Certified Master Medium/Heavy Truck Tech
Certified Master School Bus Tech
-Certified World Class Technician-
Which puts me in the top 1/100th of a percent of my field
(I have that in writing from NIASE :-)
-Inducted into the Automotive Hall Of Fame-
Certified Welder
Class A T/T Operator W/T,T, and HazMat
OSHA safety certified heavy equipment operator
Licensed Tennessee Realtor
Steam locomotive fireman (not yet licensed)
Former Marine Combat Engineer & meritorious marksman.
Scores of continuing ed. certs.
Full head of hair
And nearly as many dives as you in 1/4 the time...
Elmer.
Oh, sorry.
Dr. Fudd.
YLAM
ben bradlee
of spelling.
Who's Dan Quale? Oh, I know, let me quote Dan Quayle. We do know what he
meant, don't we?
"Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and
child."
-- Vice President Dan Quayle
Don't bring ignorance to a whole new level by condoning improper spelling.
The reason this quote is on a website is to mock the speaker. Which brings
us to another English problem quite frequently found in posts on rec.scuba.
"Reef Fish" <Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8fb7380b.02102...@posting.google.com...
ben bradlee
their peers or otherwise. Can you?
"Salty" <babet...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e673a058.02102...@posting.google.com...
Jack Farmer
icediver wrote:
> Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com (Reef Fish) wrote
>
>>Did anyone not know what Dan Quale meant when he spelled "potatoe"?
>
>
> Did you mean to spell Dan Quayle? Throwing another stone in that
> glass house, Bob?
>
Yahnnnn
Just PROVES even sheep fuckers can get sheep's skin now a days.
Reef Fish
> Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com (Reef Fish) wrote
> > Did anyone not know what Dan Quale meant when he spelled "potatoe"?
>
> Did you mean to spell Dan Quayle? Throwing another stone in that
> glass house, Bob?
But you and everyone else knew what I meant, didn't you? When
SUBSTANCE fail ... resort to spelling, grammer ...
>
> Since you keep asking, my credentials:
>
> University of Wisconsin Medical School, 1981, M.D.
> Indiana University Medical Center, 1985, Ophthalmology
> Board certified in Ophthalmology 1986 (91st percentile)
> Diving Medicine Continuing Medical Education, 100 credit hours
> PADI certified 1976, and diving ever since
>
> Your turn.
In 1982, I was already a Full Professor at Vanderbilt and the
University of Chicago, having several FINISHED M.D.s as students!
You mean you MISSED them all, while trying to argue on empty?
You forgot I had already addressed the below DIRECTLY to you:
RF> The entire thread arose because of Michael's misinterpretation of
RF> DAN's STATISTICS, compounded by his misunderstanding about the role
RF> of ascent rate in the final 30 feet.
RF>
RF> Since you had such a fixation about credentials, and I've already
RF> K.O'd Michael's credentials when he tooted his own horn
RF> Why don't YOU, Dr. Michael J. Black, show us yours and I'll tell you
RF> how far you are BENEATH me, in your statistics and diving credentials
RF> -- ONLY because you have such a fetish about SHEEPSKINS.
RF> You have stated absolutely NOTHING of substance in the entire thread
RF> other than challenging Randy Malik's M.D. credentials.
RF>
RF> icediver> Still waiting for that credential...
RF>
RF> I am waiting for YOURS now ... because I am going to use YUOR own BOOT
RF> to kick YOUR ASS with it. Answer the SAME questions I put to Michael
RF> to yourself, MJB.
Since you didn't answer, I'll help you out here:
Were you EVER elected by your peers to be Fellow of ANY medical
society?
Have you EVER been cited in any "Who's Who in the World"? Volume?
Have you ever been cited in any less prestigeous Who's Who volumes
in science, medicine, or research?
Do you think you'll EVER attain those, given the time you spend
bullshitting in rec.scuba and looking into your sheep's eyes and
other orifices (as an Ophthomologist) while being a SheepMeister? ;=)))
*****************************************************************
You're just a MINIMALLY certified M.D. in Ophthalmology, in 1986.
*****************************************************************
Below is in my post in reply to Michael )mentioned above):
Ph.D. in Statistics from Yale (1970). Full Professor of Statistics
(1977) Elected Fellow of the American Statistical Association (1984)
the same year I was cited in Marquis's Who's Who in the World,
with a longer citation than Ronald Reagan who was President of the
US at the time. Too many other lesser academic and scientific
Who's Who publications to name here, in which I was repeatedly cited.
As for my DIVING credentials, since my PADI patches REALLY don't
mean anything ... you can find them all in what I SAID (posted) in
thousands of posts, easily retrievable now, in google's archives.
icediver, YOUR credentials really put me to SHAME ... for having
pffered to BOOT your ASS, NOT realizing what a nobody you're. It's
like a grown man kicking a baby.
With YOUR credential, I think you'll be lucky if Randy Malik will
let you be his assistant! Besides, NONE of us needs to show any of
our credentials to show how WRONG you're when you argue through your
Ophthomologist Hat!
-- Bob.
Ross Bagley
> Have you EVER been cited in any "Who's Who in the World"? Volume?
>
> Have you ever been cited in any less prestigeous Who's Who volumes
> in science, medicine, or research?
I keep getting invited to submit a profile and buy a copy of these
"Who's Who..." things, but I have thrown them in with the junk mail as
a scam for me to buy a big book for $150+.
Is there really anything to these "Who's Who..." books?
Regards,
Ross
-- Ross Bagley http://rossbagley.com/rba
"Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature...
Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." -- Helen Keller
Jason O'Rourke
>I keep getting invited to submit a profile and buy a copy of these
>"Who's Who..." things, but I have thrown them in with the junk mail as
>a scam for me to buy a big book for $150+.
>
>Is there really anything to these "Who's Who..." books?
The pride of listing more items than was deemed necessary for a standing
President? (Though perhaps just as well they didn't list his 'service of
duty' in Hollywood in detail)
--
Jason O'Rourke www.jor.com
Rich Lockyer
Fish) wrote:
>Have you EVER been cited in any "Who's Who in the World"? Volume?
Sure he has.. but I wouldn't be too proud of his cite from Techdiver.
--- Rich
http://richlockyer.tripod.com/
ben bradlee
gives a boot.
"Reef Fish" <Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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ben bradlee
in the post anyway.
"Ross Bagley" <ro...@rossbagley.com> wrote in message
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OldSalt
> I can't think of anyone that likes to be put in their place in front of
> their peers or otherwise. Can you?
Hi Ben. No... you are correct. Dan B also mentioned this fact. Please
see my reply to him. I've held several supervisory positions in
nursing and it's always been my management philosophy to withhold
corrections of my employees while their peers are present... if I can
help it. In terms of my management style, I actually fit somewhere in
between 'democratic' and 'laissez faire'. I believe that honey will
attract more bees than vinegar, so to speak. I enjoy teaching other
nurses and nurses aides. I am quick to praise and slow to anger with
them. (I realize that you've seen me angry here on the NG but I'm not
that nasty IRL, esp on the job.) I know what it's like to feel
belittled in front of others on the job and it hurts.
However, the only times that I can say that I've truly been belittled
in front of others to the point of it hurting my feelings on the job
were by doctors. You need to understand that sometimes there is
literally a life at stake and seconds / actions can be crucial. If a
doctor is going to be a blatant ass to me in front of his peers, then
he deserves what he gets back from me. It's not often that I've
challenged a doc in front of peers in my 23 yrs of being an RN and
each time, I was almost afraid to do so. If I'm not sure that I'm
right on the matter, I'll back down, apologize and try to correct the
situation everytime. But if I know he's wrong and he's being an ass
and putting the patient at risk, then I won't back down for a second.
That has happened a few times and with varying results. There were
several times that the doctor apologized, either publicly in front of
others or in private. There were also a few times that the doctor
reported me to the Director of Nursing. There was even one time where
the doctor refused to allow me to care for his patients anymore. In
that instance, I pointed out that the patient had a blood level of a
certain med that was too high and that the doctor had been notified
the day before but didn't make any changes. He was clearly wrong but
his confrontation with me led me no other choice and this occured in
front of the med students he was teaching. I'd much rather confront
him out of earshot of his peers, but the circumstances may not always
afford me that ability. I know that I keep saying "him" but oddly
enough, I haven't met any female doctors who have been as arrogant and
rude as the males. You also need to understand that it is not the same
when you put a saleslady at Walmart (just as an example) in her place
in front of her peers as when you do this during a working
relationship with a doctor. My actions on the job could mean whether
or not my patient is harmed and I carry malpractice insurance. What is
said to any of your co-workers in front of other co-workers could
easily be related during a trial, and therefore, my public rebuttal
may in fact be very important. I've never been involved in a
malpractice suit or even come close and I don't intend to do so. I try
to treat ppl with respect on the job and I expect the same in return.
Popeye
>Date: 10/22/02 8:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <edcb1a54.0210...@posting.google.com>
>
>"ben bradlee" <kjoh...@splitrocktel.net> wrote in message
>news:<urats3l...@corp.supernews.com>...
>
>> I can't think of anyone that likes to be put in their place in front of
>> their peers or otherwise. Can you?
My "managment style" has always been somewhat akin to "The beatings will
continue until morale improves".
Reef Fish
>
> Who's Dan Quale? Oh, I know, let me quote Dan Quayle. We do know what he
> meant, don't we?
You also know what he meant when he spelled "potatoe", didn't you?
In my case, it showed (1) I typed too fast and skipped a key, and (2)
Quayle gave such a BAAAAAAD <that's misspelling too, Ben> impression
on the educational system of the USA that however his name is spelled
is really irrelevant. Misspelling his name is doing him a favor. :-)
> -- Vice President Dan Quayle
>
> Don't bring ignorance to a whole new level by condoning improper spelling.
Says the Man who told a kid, on national TV, that "potato" is spelled
"potatoe" when the kid spelled it correctly in the first place.
Ben, when you get educated, you'll learn the difference between a typo
and a genuine misspelling out of ignorance -- which Dan Quayle's
case was. He's your hero, eh, for quoting him on shooting his own
foot?
-- Bob.
Dan Bracuk
:However, the only times that I can say that I've truly been belittled
:in front of others to the point of it hurting my feelings on the job
:were by doctors.
Like this guy?
http://news.excite.com/odd/article/id/275998|oddlyenough|10-22-2002::10:01|reuters.html
Dan Bracuk
: My "managment style" has always been somewhat akin to "The beatings will
:continue until morale improves".
Mine used to be, "Look after the boys and the boys'll look after you".
Now it's, "Life is much more pleasant at the bottom of the totem
pole".
DIR Dennis (Icarus)
> All that education and professional praise and you don't have the soul God
> gives a boot.
So now you're on to judging soul's now? :-)
Best stick with the spelling, Ben.
Dennis
Reef Fish
> Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com (Reef Fish) writes:
>
> > Have you EVER been cited in any "Who's Who in the World"? Volume?
> >
> > Have you ever been cited in any less prestigeous Who's Who volumes
> > in science, medicine, or research?
>
> I keep getting invited to submit a profile and buy a copy of these
> "Who's Who..." things, but I have thrown them in with the junk mail as
> a scam for me to buy a big book for $150+.
>
> Is there really anything to these "Who's Who..." books?
The keyword is "prestigeous".
For a prestigeous Who's Who, you're nominated by a board of editors.
They have already written your citation, and merely ask you to verify
the accuracy. You DO NOT submit a profile, and you DO NOT NEED to
buy any copy, and you CANNOT apply to be listed.
If you have to buy a copy to be listed, then it's 100% sure it's not
worth the paper it's printed on. So, you did get junk mail, and you
never qualified for any prestigeous Who's Who.
-- Bob.
-- Bob.
icediver
juvenile behavior, after being spanked for erroneously
stating that arterial gas embolism is not treated by
recompression.
Remember, Reef Fish, YOU asked for my credentials. And
yes to all your questions...Who's Who, you betcha. Means
nothing to those who know the listing is a ploy to sucker
another paying customer...but you apparently didn't know
that either.
Still waiting for any credential of one Randy F. Milak,
anybody?
Charlie Allen
"icediver" <
>
> Still waiting for any credential of one Randy F. Milak,
> anybody?
>
Nope. I'm not waiting for Randy Milak's credentials.
I'm content to judge credibility by reading what is posted.
Charlie Allen
Reef Fish
Popeye on Dr. Michael J. Black, aka icediver, MJB, SheepMeister, and lots
other credentials.
> What do tou call a guy that finishes dead last in his med school class?
>
> Doctor...
Hey, you don't even have to go any medical school to be called a Doctor!
Just ask Dr. Henry Kissinger or Dr. Martin Luther King.
You can even ask ME. :-) When my travel agent used "Dr." in my name
tag, and the bellboy or porter sees it, they invariably start telling
me about their aches and pains, and I just tell them "Take 2 asprins
and go to bed." That's all doctors ever say, anyway. :-)))
BTW, few people know that professors are addressed as Dr. only in
2nd and 3rd or lower rate universities. In the prestigeous U's
where I've taught, it's a sign of poor taste (as Henry K <G>) to want
to be addressed as Dr., because EVERYONE is a Dr.
> It's sad that you're only marginally talented in one field.
It would be so bad if he didn't try go get more mileage out of it
than warranted, and didn't realize the IRRELEVANCE of it when
challenged Dr. Randy Malik, or when he screws up, in his shallow
understanding of elementary DIVE FACTS, such as BOYLE'S LAW,
stating that VOLUME is a LINEAR function of depth, in ascent!
I laughed so hard that my stomach is still aching!
Popeye, I didn't realize that you're such a Master of all trades.
Truly impressive. A Rennaisance Man in Dollywood country, aka
Gatlinburg, TN. :-) Hope you don't mind my snip of all your
SHEEPskins (HEAVYmetal plaques? <G>) to make one comment.
> Full head of hair
You put BOTH SheepMeister and myself to shame there. :-))
-- Bob.
Reef Fish
> "ben bradlee" <kjoh...@splitrocktel.net> wrote in message news:urboeq9...@corp.supernews.com...
> > All that education and professional praise and you don't have the soul God
> > gives a boot.
>
> So now you're on to judging soul's now? :-)
>
> Best stick with the spelling, Ben.
>
> Dennis
Yup! That's good ole Quayle-worshipping, Spelling-Bee, BenDover Bradlee,
trying to branch out to Evangelism of the Swaggard kind.
-- Bob.
Popeye
>Popeye, I didn't realize that you're such a Master of all trades.
>Truly impressive. A Rennaisance Man in Dollywood country, aka
>Gatlinburg, TN. :-) Hope you don't mind my snip of all your
>SHEEPskins (HEAVYmetal plaques? <G>) to make one comment.
I learn, very quickly, anything that interests me.
Unfortunately, I get bored just as quickly. :-)
>> Full head of hair
>
>You put BOTH SheepMeister and myself to shame there. :-))
I can't wait to go bald, it'll save me ten bucks a week.
Unfortunately my dad, -Professer- Donald Frederick, had every hair in his
head when he died at 65. ;-)
>-- Bob.
ben bradlee
"Dan Bracuk" <NOTb...@pathcom.com> wrote in message
news:3db5f472....@news.axxent.ca...
> Now it's, "Life is much more pleasant at the bottom of the totem
> pole".
After years of climbing one realizes work is the bottom of the totem pole.
The delusional pretend otherwise.
ben bradlee
"Reef Fish" <Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > Don't bring ignorance to a whole new level by condoning improper
Salty
> From (OldSalt)
> :However, the only times that I can say that I've truly been belittled
> :in front of others to the point of it hurting my feelings on the job
> :were by doctors.
>
> Like this guy?
> http://news.excite.com/odd/article/id/275998|oddlyenough|10-22-2002::10:01|reuters.html
LOL !! Yea !! I've actually met him once and had to deal with him on
the job... or very similar to him !! His twin maybe !!
The best is the quote at the end of the article... "In view of your
behavior toward patients and colleagues there are no conditions which
would enable the Committee to conclude that you could safely resume
practice"
I absolutely love that line. Hahahahahahahahaha
Salty
> >Subject: Re: Randy F. Milak, M.D.?
> >From: ba...@fast.net (OldSalt)
> >Date: 10/22/02 8:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time
> >Message-id: <edcb1a54.0210...@posting.google.com>
> >
> >"ben bradlee" <kjoh...@splitrocktel.net> wrote in message
> >news:<urats3l...@corp.supernews.com>...
> >
> >> I can't think of anyone that likes to be put in their place in front of
> >> their peers or otherwise. Can you?
>
> My "managment style" has always been somewhat akin to "The beatings will
> continue until morale improves".
And there are those who would reply... "Beat me harder !!" Do you
have a nice whip and black leather gloves ?? <dark and evil smirk>
Salty
<snip>
> BTW, few people know that professors are addressed as Dr. only in
> 2nd and 3rd or lower rate universities. In the prestigeous U's
> where I've taught, it's a sign of poor taste (as Henry K <G>) to want
> to be addressed as Dr., because EVERYONE is a Dr.
I address every letter via snail-mail to my uncle as "Dr". He holds
a PHD in Economics and earned that degree at age 27. He's now 74 and
has taught university level both here and in Germany. I owe him that
amount of respect and so I address him in correspondence as such. I
would address Tara's brother in the same manner and he's my age. Don't
belittle education.
Limey Dave
"Reef Fish" <Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Popeye on Dr. Michael J. Black, aka icediver, MJB, SheepMeister, and lots
> other credentials.
>
> > What do tou call a guy that finishes dead last in his med school
class?
> >
> > Doctor...
>
> Hey, you don't even have to go any medical school to be called a Doctor!
> Just ask Dr. Henry Kissinger or Dr. Martin Luther King.
>
> You can even ask ME. :-) When my travel agent used "Dr." in my name
> tag, and the bellboy or porter sees it, they invariably start telling
> me about their aches and pains, and I just tell them "Take 2 asprins
> and go to bed." That's all doctors ever say, anyway. :-)))
>
> BTW, few people know that professors are addressed as Dr. only in
> 2nd and 3rd or lower rate universities. In the prestigeous U's
> where I've taught, it's a sign of poor taste (as Henry K <G>) to want
> to be addressed as Dr., because EVERYONE is a Dr.
>
>
> > It's sad that you're only marginally talented in one field.
>
> It would be so bad if he didn't try go get more mileage out of it
> than warranted, and didn't realize the IRRELEVANCE of it when
> challenged Dr. Randy Malik, or when he screws up, in his shallow
> understanding of elementary DIVE FACTS, such as BOYLE'S LAW,
> stating that VOLUME is a LINEAR function of depth, in ascent!
>
> I laughed so hard that my stomach is still aching!
>
>
Dave.
ben bradlee
A. I come from a prominent family.
Q. What school(s) did you attend?
A. I attended only the best schools.
Q. Are you rich?
A. I am old money.
Q. What is your opinion on today's music?
A. I enjoy the opera, but only the finest performers - at their best.
Q. Do you drive?
A. I am chauffeured, usually in a Mercedes Benz.
Another view of Mr. Bob Prominent who attended public schools until he
graduated from the 8th grade. Over the years he found numerous wheat
pennies and other old coins when he sweeps Carnegie Hall after the
performance. He goes back and forth from his janitor job by bus.
I can't help but thinking reef fish took a few lessons from Bob.
"Salty" <babet...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Reef Fish
There we go ... the point of my remark was that in prestigeous
universities,
such as Chicago, Harvard, and Yale, people in higher education are
less
pretentious about their Ph.D. degrees, because EVERYONE has one, so
the
title Dr. is reserved only for medical doctors. That's like the
minimal
pre-requisite for anyone to be admitted, and if someone doesn't do
SUBSTANTIALLY better than a mere Doctorate, in whatever field, that
doc
is out of there before you can say "ooops". That's where people are
judged for what they DO and what they KNOW, rather than by their sheep
skin.
All of that is very relevant to Michael J. Black's pre-occupation with
Randy's sheepskin, a common trait in the 2nd, 3rd, or lower rate type
of university environments.
It has NOTHING to do with respect or lack thereof. We address each
other
by first names if we don't use Mr. or Ms. Students do likewise. The
students there are, for the most part, the MOST respectful and
intelligent students you'll find anywhere on earth.
The 2nd and 3rd rate universities (been thar, done that too), tend to
think that any Ph.D. is life's ultimate achievement (rather than the
first baby step toward real knowledge in the field), makes a big deal
about the Dr. title. There, for the most part, students DO address
all profs as Dr. whether they have a Ph.D. or not, and for the most
part, they are the LEAST respectful, and the most obnoxious and dumb
students anywhere -- sort of like many rec.scuba posters. :-)))
I was just giving you folks a glimpse of what it's like in the top
to bottom tiers of academic (from college to Graduate and Professional
schools), since most readers here are NOT in academia.
Now you see why I don't flash any of my credentials when I post, so
I can discuss anything with anybody at equal footing without
intimidating anyone by pulling rank, because it's the SUBSTANCE of
the discussion that matters!!! On the other hand, nobody get by me
easily with bullshit while pulling my fins at the same time. :0)
On the other hand, I get a good chuckle when clueless newbies step
in flashing their sheepskins and badges, and assume that those can
cover their mistakes, while they assume I am just some green horn
college or high school kid ... until they learn otherwise ... :-))
That's the way it is.
-- Bob.
icediver
> There is one word for this behavior repugnant.
You mean like you calling noted Great Lakes shipwreck author
Cris Kohl, a "child molester and wantabie diver?"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3a7375c3...@news1.on.sympatico.ca
Jason O'Rourke
>I was just giving you folks a glimpse of what it's like in the top
>to bottom tiers of academic (from college to Graduate and Professional
>schools), since most readers here are NOT in academia.
Yup. The PRIDE, the EGO, the PETTY BICKERING!
Office politics has nothing on the ivory towers, where turnover is far lower
and the losers don't have to get another job.
(though no, professors tend to be just as unpretentious at the bottom tiers
of academia, it's more about their personality)
Popeye
>Date: 10/23/02 12:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <urddiim...@corp.supernews.com>
<hack further perception weirdery>
You need to get off the pipe before it kills you.
Reef Fish
> yes to all your questions...Who's Who, you betcha.
You little dodge almost got lost in the pile of sheep stuff
around you.
Cite them!
You were elected Fellow of WHICH societies? WHEN?
YOu were cited in WHICH Who's Who in the WORLD. Name, Volume(s), year(s).
> Means nothing to those who know the listing is a ploy to sucker
> another paying customer...but you apparently didn't know
> that either.
So THOSE are the Who's Who in which you were cited? Like
"Who's Who in High School in Northern Podunk County"? :-)
I had already replied to Ross yesterday:
RF> The keyword is "prestigeous".
RF>
RF> For a prestigeous Who's Who, you're nominated by a board of editors.
RF> They have already written your citation, and merely ask you to verify
RF> the accuracy. You DO NOT submit a profile, and you DO NOT NEED to
RF> buy any copy, and you CANNOT apply to be listed.
RF>
RF> If you have to buy a copy to be listed, then it's 100% sure it's not
RF> worth the paper it's printed on. So, you did get junk mail, and you
RF> never qualified for any prestigeous Who's Who.
Icediver, was the LATTER the Who's Who you meant? You seem to know so
much about those "suckering customers" publications.
You DID say you were listed in a "Who's Who in the WORLD", didn't you?
Cite it. I'll be most interested to find out exactly what you were
cited for. It's absolutely inconceivable that someone as inexperienced
and new in your field as you are can be cited in ANY Who's Who in the
World volume. But I COULD be WRONG!
I am waiting for your citation of the volume(s) and year(s) of such
"Who's Who in the World", Dr. Michael J. Black.
I assume you DO know the difference between "World" and "USA" or
"Midwest USA" in terms of decreasing significance ... to "Who is
Who in Sheep Doctors in Podunk County, Podunk State."
> Still waiting for any credential of one Randy F. Milak, anybody?
Okay, I'll wait for YOUR cite of the societies in which you were
elected Fellow by your medical peers, and the Who's Who in the
World volume(s).
-- Bob.
icediver
"Reef Fish" <Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com> wrote
> Cite them!
>
> You were elected Fellow of WHICH societies? WHEN?
>
> YOu were cited in WHICH Who's Who in the WORLD. Name, Volume(s), year(s).
Gawd you are a child, but I'll play...
I am a Fellow of the American Academy of Ophthalmology, elected 1987.
I did not purchase any of the Who's Who books (Marquis, or other) but have
been mailed their offers for years, showing my listing as it appears in
their books.
Waaaahhhh, Reef Fish can't win, Waaaahhh...
Still waiting for Milak's credential...
Dan Bracuk
:I'm content to judge credibility by reading what is posted.
So am I. I often ignore the identity of the author and see if the
post makes sense. Sometimes I will ask myself whether or not the
author is in a position to know.
For example, icediver is probably in a position to know about
icediving, Steve Kramer is in a position to know about diving in the
Indo Pacific region, and so on and so forth.
Dan Bracuk
:Gawd you are a child, but I'll play...
:I am a Fellow of the American Academy of Ophthalmology, elected 1987.
But are you a jolly good fellow?