BABY SHAMPOO for Goggles DOES IT WORK? HOW GOOD ?
Jim Cares
How does baby shampoo work as an anti fog compound compared to the "Hi
tech" products they sell in scuba stores for fog prevention?
Thanks
Jim
Kenneth A. Smith
Jim Cares wrote:
>
> How does baby shampoo work as an anti fog compound compared to the "Hi
> tech" products they sell in scuba stores for fog prevention?
>
BS is my primary for warm and cold water diving.
Ken
Bud Voorhees
I have used "No More Tears" for all dives since my certification dives last
summer. It has worked well for me in all water conditions. I can't
compare it to other "high tech" products 'cause I never used them. All I
know is that my mask does not fog even in 50F water.
Bud
Jim Cares <jc...@ccac.duq.edu> wrote in article
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> How does baby shampoo work as an anti fog compound compared to the "Hi
> tech" products they sell in scuba stores for fog prevention?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Jim
>
Scott F. Migaldi
Jim Cares wrote:
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> How does baby shampoo work as an anti fog compound compared to the "Hi
> tech" products they sell in scuba stores for fog prevention?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim
Just as well only alot cheaper by the gallon. I use it all the time
Be carful not to use a hole bunch of it at one time or else you will
look like your frothing at the mouth.
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Ken:
Been there! After many years of spitting in my mask and smelling
what I had for lunch through out the entire dive, I was informed a few
years back that a non-abrasive gel tooth paste was an inexpensive way to
keep your mask defogged. I tried it and it works great. I also leaves
your mask with a nice menty smell. A work of caution. Make sure that
you use a nonabrasive type. Even though the plate in your mask is
glass, prolonged use of an abrasive tooth paste can create small
scratchs on the lense and give your plate a perminate fogged up look.
The nice smell really only plays in if you use a full face mask. Oh,
one other thing. Your plate won't get cavities either if you use it on
a regular basis. JUST HIDDING.
Stay wet, but stay safe.
Bill Pifer
The Deitz
>Subject: Re: BABY SHAMPOO for Goggles DOES IT WORK? HOW GOOD ?
>From: "Scott F. Migaldi" <smig...@SPAM.NOMORE.pamd.cig.mot.com>
>Date: Mon, May 4, 1998 12:42 EDT
>Message-id: <34D8EF...@SPAM.NOMORE.pamd.cig.mot.com>
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>Jim Cares wrote:
>>
>> How does baby shampoo work as an anti fog compound compared to the "Hi
tech" products they sell in scuba stores for fog prevention?
>> Thanks
>> Jim>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>Just as well only alot cheaper by the gallon. I use it all the time
>Be carful not to use a hole bunch of it at one time or else you will
>look like your frothing at the mouth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Scott, Try this to prevent the foaming, I pre-mix the baby shampoo
with water then I add something that I get from the pool and spa store and that
item is "Anti-Foam". BioGuard makes it. NO! foaming.
Just 2oz will treat 5,000 gallons. A pint sells for
$7.50...........................
FYI water temp. N.C. coast 48 deg.
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> Jim Cares wrote:
> >
> > How does baby shampoo work as an anti fog compound compared to the "Hi
> > tech" products they sell in scuba stores for fog prevention?
> >
> The only thing that works better is Tuffie Tooth tooth paste
> BS is my primary for warm and cold water diving.
>
> Ken
Ken,
"Tuffie Tooth tooth paste"?
Where in the hell do you get this stuff?
Cash's big bargain barn or where?
Andrew Drapp
Kenneth A. Smith (kasm...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: The only thing that works better is Tuffie Tooth tooth paste
: BS is my primary for warm and cold water diving.
In my quest to find the perfect anti-fog solution, I decided to conduct
sever tests. I since conducted countless hours of field research on
various items, in carefully controled labaratory conditions. Tests were
conducted over a minimum of seven tests conducted daily over a period of
one week. The total duration of all tests has been a little over a year,
and the tests are still ongoing.
During my morning shower, I my mirror routinely gets fogged up, making it
increadibly difficult, and dangerous, to shave. So, I apply the various
test products to my mirror. Here is a breif summary of my results. The
complete results will be published in Scientific American next year.
Water: Immedeatly clears any fogging, however, after it doesn't seem to
provide any impairment to the fogging process. However, it seems to be
the best solution for de-fogging a currently fogged mirror. Something
else is required to prevent fogging.
Colgate Tooth paste: Moderate anti-fogging properties. Duration seems
to prevent fogging from occuring within a period of about 5-10minutes.
For a long shower, where I applied the anti-fog toothpaste mix, the
mirror would begin to fog towards the end of the test period. Some buildup
of tooth paste was noticed after the week long test, require my mirro to
be cleand more frequently than usual.
Head & Shoulders Shampoo: Minimal anti-fogging properties. Only slightly
better than water in preventing fogging.
Zest detergent Saop: Minimal anti-fogging properties. Slightly better
than the H&S shampoo.
Generic Soap: Low to moderate anti-fogging properties. However, there was
some "streaking" noticed on the mirror. Tooth paste provided better
anti-fog properties.
Shaving cream: Excellent anti-fog properties. After a single application
of shaving cream (both foam and gel have been tested with similar results)
the mirror remaind clear of fog for an entire test session. However, at
the begining of the next day, the mirror would always fog up, so the
duration is somewhat limited, and definatly less than 24 hours.
I am currently working on getting an NSF grant to expand the scope of my
research to include kitchen products as well. So far I have been unable
to aquire a sufficiently small amount of baby shampoo to test here in
Japan.
Andrew Drapp
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Gwendl
On 4 Feb 1998 22:43:38 GMT, "Bud Voorhees" <bu...@cybercomm.net> wrote:
>I have used "No More Tears" for all dives since my certification dives last
>summer. It has worked well for me in all water conditions. I can't
>compare it to other "high tech" products 'cause I never used them. All I
>know is that my mask does not fog even in 50F water.
Jeeze, I wonder why they don't tell you about this in the diving
course?
Could it be.. .that they would not be able to sell you the expensive
stuff in the weee litttle bottles?
Could it be, that the stuff in the overpriced weee little bottles is
the same as baby shampoo?
Na, they would not do that just for money!
Gwen
Andrew Drapp
Gwendl (gwe...@gte.net) wrote:
: >I have used "No More Tears" for all dives since my certification dives last
: >summer.
: Jeeze, I wonder why they don't tell you about this in the diving
: course?
Gwen,
Actually, I learned that little trick on a course. Guess I just had a
better instructor.
Andrew Drapp
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IanV
"Kenneth A. Smith" <kasm...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
The great thing about the baby shampoo is
I have the softest eye-lashes in town, no
matter how often I dive. No more rash for me !
The only problem is that when I clear my mask
it gets full of foam.
Also no more dandruff on my eye-balls
IRBYJR
Baby shampoo works very well as a fog preventer, as do a host of other things.
It can be used as it comes from the bottle or diluted any way you prefer,
depending on how many suds you want to wash out.
I have used any kind of detergent in a pinch, but be careful as some can have a
residue that can irritate the eyes.
IRBYJR
>I get from the pool and spa store and that
>item is "Anti-Foam". BioGuard makes it. NO! foaming.
>Just 2oz will treat 5,000 gallons. A pint
Diswashing detergent will do the trick, and it has anti-foam built in. But,
rinse it well afterwards.
Kenneth A. Smith
Andrew Drapp wrote:
> I am currently working on getting an NSF grant to expand the scope of my
> research to include kitchen products as well. So far I have been unable
> to aquire a sufficiently small amount of baby shampoo to test here in
> Japan.
Interesting work... Maybe you should check with MITI for the grant....
I actually ran similar tests with various brands of toothpaste to find
out which one worked better, after I ran my tests on baby shampoo and
toothpaste. I did these test both in a warm swiming pool and in teh
bathrood as Andrew has. Long pool sessions (2-4 hours)in a warm pool
seems to be the ultimate test of defogger life.
Both in the pool and the bathroom, the baby shampoo was not as good as
the best toothpaste, but better than some. The baby shampoo would have
to be reapplied frequently in the pool in order for it me to keep the
fog out. OF note here, is that the BS did last longer for me than others
using the high priced commercial drops. Another note...BS is as good as
Toothpaste for COLD water dives (48-60 f)...
As far as toothpastes, I have tried 8 types and found the following:
Gels----dont waist your time....BS works better
Combos like Aquafresh (normal)...Marginal comparison to BS
Crest- (normal version)- better than the combos but less than an 90
minutes in the pool about equal to
Colgate-(usually from the Airline travel packs)- works moderately over
90 minutes of protection
Happy-- (philippine brand VERY LOW COST brand in metal tube still)-kind
of foul tasting, but it stays with you a long time...managed over two
hours at a stretch without a hint of fog.
And the winner is.....
Tuffie Tooth-( Malaysia brand VERY LOW COST brand, also in metal
tube)-super sweet and VERY thick white with what seemed to be chunks of
something...no scratching and ina four 4 hour pool session, never had to
reapply....
I have not yet tried the "whitening" or "tarter control" versions as of
yet.
In order not to confound the data, each time prior to a pool session the
masks was conditioned in the same fashion to insure that all residual
materials were removed prior to application of the test sample.
So all toothpastes are not the same.....
BTW...I do carry Baby Shampoo in a spent commercial mask defogger bottle
in my BC for emergency purposes....
Ken
Bud Voorhees
Gwendl <gwe...@gte.net> wrote in article
<34d92103....@news2.1st.net>...
> On 4 Feb 1998 22:43:38 GMT, "Bud Voorhees" <bu...@cybercomm.net> wrote:
>
> >I have used "No More Tears" for all dives since my certification dives
last
> >summer. snip>
> Jeeze, I wonder why they don't tell you about this in the diving
> course?
>
snip
My instructor told us about using shampoo. He wasn't selling the high
priced stuff.
Bud
Bud Voorhees
snip
> Scott, Try this to prevent the foaming, I pre-mix the baby shampoo
and that
> item is "Anti-Foam". BioGuard makes it. NO! foaming.
> $7.50...........................
Dietz, What ratio of water / shampoo / Anti-Foam do you use?
Bud
reefnet
Joy works better than Dawn for defogging, and is commonly used by
locals here in warm water. About 1 ounce Joy to 10 ounces of
water. Thoroughly rinse mask.
Not to slight Dawn, it's a better degreaser when working around
boats.
-
Donna
http://members.tripod.com/~glassbottomboat/glassbottomboat.htm
IRBYJR wrote in message
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Lisa Watson
<snip>
>
>So all toothpastes are not the same.....
>
>Ken
I'm a toothpaste fan myself but have never used Tuffie. I'll have to
pick some up my next trip to KL.
BTW, I always carry Baby Shampoo with me too and use both on the first
dive and repeat the double treatment whenever I feel the toothpaste
alone just isn't doing the trick.
:-)
Lisa
Red
In article <34d8f446....@news2.1st.net>, jc...@ccac.duq.edu says...
>
>How does baby shampoo work as an anti fog compound compared to the "Hi
>tech" products they sell in scuba stores for fog prevention?
>
>
>
>Jim
Hi Jim,
I don't use Baby Shampoo, but tooth paste!
Before the first time you dive with a new mask, take a tooth brush and brush it
with tooth paste. No fog.
You can also use a dish wash product, but tooth paste is the best thing I ever
tried.
Nice dives!
Red
JD TURNER
Red (mul...@fapse.unige.ch) wrote:
Why bother spending money on special solutions and things like that,
when the best solution that I have found is good old spit.
Spit into the mask, rub it round, rinse it off and away you go.
Jon
: In article <34d8f446....@news2.1st.net>, jc...@ccac.duq.edu says...
:
KVictorIII
Baby shampoo works great. I have been using if for a few years.
DiveJ
Beleive it or not I use to use baby shampoo and still got the occassional fog
on the 30-40ft. hour to hour and a half dives, the only thing that beats it
WOOLITE!!! Go figure!
Fishbre396
In article <19980304215...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, di...@aol.com
(DiveJ) writes:
Both are better than toothpaste???
Detlef Schwenke
On 27 Feb 1998 20:44:57 GMT, kvict...@aol.com (KVictorIII) wrote:
>Baby shampoo works great. I have been using if for a few years.
Didn't work for me. IMHO cheapest toothpaste is the best.
Regards
Detlef
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DIVINSULLY
i don't know about baby shampoo, but i use a anti fog called, gt47
great stuff, can be applied underwater. have done so myself.
Neil Andrew COLLINGS
In article <3503e6f4...@192.168.80.73>, Dive...@TheWaterCooler.Com wrote:
>On 27 Feb 1998 20:44:57 GMT, kvict...@aol.com (KVictorIII) wrote:
>
>>Baby shampoo works great. I have been using if for a few years.
>
>Didn't work for me. IMHO cheapest toothpaste is the best.
Hello everyone in rec.scuba. I'm a newbie at this so please don't flame me if
I have stuffed up this attempt at a follow-up. Thanks.
I'm assuming that this discussion is about ways to prevent your mask,
(goggles), from fogging up. This is what I, and other people I have dived with
do. I spit onto the inside surface of each lens and rub it into the entire
surface of each lens with my finger. Then I rinse my mask out in the water.
Its as simple as that and best of all, its FREE!!!! The other advantage is
that its environmentally friendly because you are not introducing any
chemicals into the water. Try it and tell me if it works for you.
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In article <6e64m7$c9$1...@hermes.bit.net.au>, berber@NO_SPAMblc.com.au (Neil Andrew COLLINGS) wrote:
>In article <3503e6f4...@192.168.80.73>, Dive...@TheWaterCooler.Com wrote:
>>On 27 Feb 1998 20:44:57 GMT, kvict...@aol.com (KVictorIII) wrote:
>>
>>>Baby shampoo works great. I have been using if for a few years.
>>
>>Didn't work for me. IMHO cheapest toothpaste is the best.
>
>Hello everyone in rec.scuba. I'm a newbie at this so please don't flame me if
>I have stuffed up this attempt at a follow-up. Thanks.
>
>I'm assuming that this discussion is about ways to prevent your mask,
>(goggles), from fogging up. This is what I, and other people I have dived with
>do. I spit onto the inside surface of each lens and rub it into the entire
>surface of each lens with my finger. Then I rinse my mask out in the water.
>Its as simple as that and best of all, its FREE!!!! The other advantage is
>that its environmentally friendly because you are not introducing any
>chemicals into the water. Try it and tell me if it works for you.
>
>Remove the "A" from my e-mail address to reply.
ber...@Ablc.com.au after I sent this. Sorry for the confusion. :)