Sherwood Brut regulator in cold water?
D. Baumann
Hi,
I am considering to buy a Sherwood Brut regulator. It will be used in
cold water (lakes in fall/winter). I would appreciate any user comments
or recommendations on this subject.
Thanks, Dirk Baumann :-)
karen nesbitt
Hi Dirk,
If you want to dive in cold water, you will eventually buy a dry suit. The Brut
only has four ports - none left for your dry suit hose if you use them for reg,
octo, SPG and BC.
I use a Magnum II, not much more $$ than the Brut, and can convert it to a
Blizzard for about $50CDN. I really like it.
KN
Chuck Hopf
dollars for an Magnum or an Oasis II. The Brut earns its name by being
built like a Mack truck.
flei...@aol.com
If you are planning to use this as a primary regulator I would tend to say
no!
Dont get me wrong this is an excellent reg for shallower depths above 100
fsw.
I have 2 bruts that I use for my deco bottles. They are what they call
them a brut, they have been dropped dragged and stomped and i have never
had a problem. But again you have to remember that the regulator is
unbalanced so at deeper depths you will have a harder time getting good
air flow from it. I started out with
a brut when I first started diving and I still have it. Now I use a
posiedon odin. Again if you plan to dive less than 100fsw then by all
means this is the regulator to use..but remember you will want to venture
deeper than that eventually..
snowm...@aol.com
Hi Dirk:
Spend the extra on a sherwood Oasis II. It has a moisture
retention system that prevents dry mouth. Its purfect for cold water
and was voted best of the best by rodale scuba in 95.
You`ll LOVE it.
Charles Badoian
snowm...@aol.com wrote in article
<19961204170...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
: and was voted best of the best by rodale scuba in 95.
That statement makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside. Lets get real, an
objective equipment review by a dive mag, I don't think so.
-Charles
Jim Barteck
snowm...@aol.com wrote:
> and was voted best of the best by rodale scuba in 95.
Just a quick note on the "Best of the Best" rating in 95. It was
followed in 1996 by Sherwood's refusal to submit ANY regulators for
testing to Rodales. Their claim being that the testing itself was flawed
and wasn't a proper test - all of which may or may not be true (and
which isn't at all the point of this post) - but it does cast a big
shadow over the rating received in 1995 and how it was obtained
Follow my logic: Sherwood submits their reg in 1995 and gets a top
rating, then makes design changes for the purpose of improving its
performance. Then in '96 they refuse to submit a regulator.
Are the results of these tests rigges such that Sherwood KNEW they
would "win" in 95 and "lose" in 96 BEFORE the "test" was performed? Or
could it be the design changes aren't as big an improvement as they
claim? (It certainly wouldn't be the first case of "design improvement"
by a manufacturer not being a real improvement.)
.....Not being behind the scenes at either Rodale's or Sherwood I
couldn't (and wouldn't attempt to) say either way, just offering
something for your brain to munch on...
Svein Erik Thomassen
I'm a rescue-diver in northern Norway, at 70 degrees north, and that is a
bit north of the polar circle. We do have summerconditions (that mean no
snow) from june to september. At this time it's midnightsun, and a lot of
planton in the water, so we prefer diving in januar to may. At this time
of the year, it's never above 0 degrees celcius (freezing-point) in the
air, and seatemperature is around minus 1 to plus 3 degrees.
Under these conditions, there are not so many regulators that is
sufficient.
We do use these regulators:
*SHERWOOD MAGNUM BLIZZARD
- the maximus is not good, the plastic stiffens so much that we get
problems whith the purge button.
*SPIRO (US DIVER) ARTIC
*POSEIDON JET-STREAM WITH SILICONE CUP
*IF YOU'RE VERY CAREFUL, THE SCUBAPRO ARCTIC, WAN'T FREEZE.
We do use dry-suits, with heavy underwear, some prefer full-face masks,
computers have a tendency to malfunction under these sircumstances, but my
Suunto solution, has never done so (i hope..). Tromsř, a Universitycity
with 65000 habitants have around 40-50 active divers, organised in 3 diving
clubs. Accidents are seldom, much because we do mostly club-diving, with
rigid safety precautions. In january the visibility is around 50 meters
(tropic conditions), we do spearfish, the favourite is cat-fish, we do
have numerous WW-II wrecks or we just have fun.
If you want more experiences from extreme arctic conditions, just mail me,
and I see what I can do.
Svein Erik Thomassen
Physician
Dive-doctor
Rescuediver PADI
Richard Westlake
"Svein Erik Thomassen" <sve...@nordlys.no> wrote:
>I'm a rescue-diver in northern Norway....
>Under these conditions, there are not so many regulators that is
>sufficient.
>We do use these regulators:
> *SHERWOOD MAGNUM BLIZZARD ....
My friend Jim B. is going to jump me for this, but I did find my old
Sherwood Classic (design based on the Magnum, pre-Blizzard) to be more
comfortable than the Mares MR12 Beta he just sold me with my 30CF
pony. (The Mares hose kept trying to pull the reg out of my mouth!
And the Classic's fins did seem to keep my mouth a bit moister.)
I'm sometimes a bit alarmed by the Sherwood's fizzy first stage (their
patented dry-air bleed system), but it probably doesn't waste more
than a few liters of air per dive. Anyone know?
Certainly the Brut puts up with copper-plated hell in the dive-school
market. I bought the Classic/Minimus in hopes that it will be as
rugged and reliable as that humbler cousin, but it's good to be aware
of the Minimus' cold-water limitations and better to have a whole
spare bottle when we go for the tough stuff.
Certainly cold-water diving isn't for wimps or for wimpy gear!
(And as for my wimp status, Jim, let's talk about the environmental
kit for the Mares ... and about your New Year's dive @ Bainbridge.)
Flames okay, but I prefer the taste of a pie in the face.....
diver...@aol.com
In article <58iiud$c...@boursy.news.erols.com>, rick...@erols.com (Richard
Westlake) writes:
>m sometimes a bit alarmed by the Sherwood's fizzy first stage (their
>patented dry-air bleed system), but it probably doesn't waste more
>than a few liters of air per dive. Anyone know?
The bleed on a Sherwood uses about 2 breaths of air for an 80 cuft tank.
If you purge your second or octopus you will use from 3 to 4 breaths of
air each time you do this. If you have fins in your second stage you have
either an Oasis or Blizzard body but you may have someother cover on the
second stage
.
Have Fun and Safe Diving
Divers Get-Away
Dale City, Va. I-95 Exit 156
Bob Wills
Jim Barteck
Richard Westlake wrote:
>
> "Svein Erik Thomassen" <sve...@nordlys.no> wrote:
>
> >I'm a rescue-diver in northern Norway....
> >Under these conditions, there are not so many regulators that is
> >sufficient.
> >We do use these regulators:
> > *SHERWOOD MAGNUM BLIZZARD ....
>
> My friend Jim B. is going to jump me for this, but I did find my old
> Sherwood Classic (design based on the Magnum, pre-Blizzard) to be more
> comfortable than the Mares MR12 Beta he just sold me with my 30CF
> pony.
different levels of comfort and convenience...
> Certainly cold-water diving isn't for wimps or for wimpy gear!
> (And as for my wimp status, Jim, let's talk about the environmental
> kit for the Mares ... and about your New Year's dive @ Bainbridge.)
>
We meet at 9 am New Years Day - you going to be awake for that???
Brian Nadwidny
rick...@erols.com (Richard Westlake) wrote:
)
>>I'm sometimes a bit alarmed by the Sherwood's fizzy first stage (their
>>patented dry-air bleed system), but it probably doesn't waste more
>>than a few liters of air per dive. Anyone know?
When I worked for a Sherwood store I was told that the dry air bleed system
lets no more than one or two breaths per dive waste away.
>>Certainly cold-water diving isn't for wimps or for wimpy gear!
Personally I have seen more Sherwoods ( of various kinds) suffer from
first stage freeze-ups than any other regs. I certainly wouldn't
recommend them for cold-water, but then again that's just my
opinion (based on diving in 0C water). I dive with S'pro now and have
had no problems (yet).
Brian Nadwidny IANTD Instructor, SSI Instructor, PADI DM
Edmonton, Alberta,Canada
nadw...@agt.net
diver...@aol.com
In article <59ar2l$e...@priv-sys04-le0.telusplanet.net>, nadw...@agt.net
(Brian Nadwidny) writes:
>Personally I have seen more Sherwoods ( of various kinds) suffer from
>first stage freeze-ups than any other regs. I certainly wouldn't
>recommend them for cold-water, but then again that's just my
>opinion (based on diving in 0C water). I dive with S'pro now and have
>had no problems (yet).
The only Sherwood recomended for cold water is the Blizzard. As you have
seen various models freeze up, I immagin that people were not using the
correct regulator of the dive. Is you Scuba Pro fitted with and
envirolement or cold water configuration? If so then it is being used as
intended and you should not have any problem.