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Alonzo Gariepy

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Nov 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/15/99
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Can anybody lend me their experience about root canals, capped
teeth and tooth squeeze? I have a friend who is going with me to
Fiji, and she's fairly certain that her dentist told her that there is
some kind of air pocket in her capped teeth. Mind you, I expect
that anyone who has had severe problems isn't likely to be reading
this newsgroup :). Perhaps you know someone...

thanks,

Alonzo Gariepy
alo...@aa.net

Pmcduffee

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>From: "Alonzo Gariepy" <alo...@aa.net>

Well, I had a tooth capped just a few months ago. I
particularly mentiond to my dentist to be especially aware
of bubbles in the cement when putting on the permanent
cap. Soon after I was on a week long liveaboard trip, and
did around 20 dives. Didn't have any problems. When
flying home, I may have had a sensation in my tooth, but
it may have been my imagination, as I was looking for
something to happen.

That's my story.

Pat

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jim_...@my-deja.com

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In article <19991115152759...@ng-cl1.aol.com>,

pmcd...@aol.com (Pmcduffee) wrote:
> >From: "Alonzo Gariepy" <alo...@aa.net>
>
> >Can anybody lend me their experience about root canals, capped
> >teeth and tooth squeeze? I have a friend who is going with me to
> >Fiji, and she's fairly certain that her dentist told her that there
is
> >some kind of air pocket in her capped teeth. Mind you, I expect
> >that anyone who has had severe problems isn't likely to be reading
> >this newsgroup :). Perhaps you know someone...
> >
> >
>
> Well, I had a tooth capped just a few months ago. I
> particularly mentiond to my dentist to be especially aware
> of bubbles in the cement when putting on the permanent
> cap. Soon after I was on a week long liveaboard trip, and
> did around 20 dives. Didn't have any problems. When
> flying home, I may have had a sensation in my tooth, but
> it may have been my imagination, as I was looking for
> something to happen.
>
> That's my story.
>
> Pat
Pretty much the same here except I have a root canal and capped tooth
(the same tooth, go figure). Never had a problem.


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John H. Moore

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Hi Alonzo,

1. I've heard stories about capped tooth squeeze, but never talked to
anyone that it's happened to.

2. Had a root canal (yuck) last year, and I just made certain that the
dentist & oral surgeon knew that I was a diver and air spaces would NOT
be appreciated. I reminded them about every ten minutes.

3. This may seem obvious, and I mean no offense, but if your friend
has dived here post-tooth capping and had no problem, she's not going
to have a problem there (unless that backwards toilet flushing thing
causes tooth squeeze!).

4. If she hasn't dived post-tooth capping, it's probably best to get
her in the water here before you go (ASAP). Don't risk blowing
thousands of dollars on a simple thing. If she gets a squeeze, see a
dentist really quickly (you leave soon, right?).

Good luck!

John H. Moore
San Diego, California
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Lalin

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Nov 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/15/99
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I have cavities, capped teeth, root canals and implants. Some of them were
done over 25 years ago.
I have never experienced any problem, but my dentist is a very happy man...

Tim

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Nov 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/16/99
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I have several capped teeth. (My dentist needed that new boat. <G>)
Have NEVER had a problem with them.

If there is air left under a tooth, I submit that it is shoddy
dentistry and she should switch dentists. The underside of a cap is
essentially a mirror-molded replica of the base of what is left of the
tooth. Gluing it on should leave NO air pocket. IMHO.

/Tim

> Can anybody lend me their experience about root canals, capped
> teeth and tooth squeeze? I have a friend who is going with me to

> Fiji, and she's fairly certain that her dentist told her that there is


> some kind of air pocket in her capped teeth. Mind you, I expect
> that anyone who has had severe problems isn't likely to be reading
> this newsgroup :). Perhaps you know someone...

RSMEEJ

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Nov 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/16/99
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As a diver/dentist, the only time there can be "air in a tooth" is during the
first stage of a root canal when the nerve, or infection, is removed from the
tooth and medication is left inside the "empty chamber/canal" to disinfect the
tooth. At a second visit the chamber and canal(s) are then filled and and the
space is not present. Therefore, if the root canal is completed, there should
be no problem.

Joe Bad

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In article <80q4cb$r48$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

jim_...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <19991115152759...@ng-cl1.aol.com>,
> pmcd...@aol.com (Pmcduffee) wrote:
> > >From: "Alonzo Gariepy" <alo...@aa.net>
> >
> > >Can anybody lend me their experience about root canals, capped
> > >teeth and tooth squeeze? I have a friend who is going with me to
> > >Fiji, and she's fairly certain that her dentist told her that there
> is
> > >some kind of air pocket in her capped teeth. Mind you, I expect
> > >that anyone who has had severe problems isn't likely to be reading
> > >this newsgroup :). Perhaps you know someone...
> > >
> > >

And I ditto the previous responses. I understand that you're likely to
have problems if you don't have the appropriate dentistry work done
before going on a dive trip.... that is, if you need a root canal or
cavity filled, get it done before you go diving!


> >
> > Well, I had a tooth capped just a few months ago. I
> > particularly mentiond to my dentist to be especially aware
> > of bubbles in the cement when putting on the permanent
> > cap. Soon after I was on a week long liveaboard trip, and
> > did around 20 dives. Didn't have any problems. When
> > flying home, I may have had a sensation in my tooth, but
> > it may have been my imagination, as I was looking for
> > something to happen.
> >
> > That's my story.
> >
> > Pat
> Pretty much the same here except I have a root canal and capped tooth
> (the same tooth, go figure). Never had a problem.
>

Steve Kramer

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jim_...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> In article <19991115152759...@ng-cl1.aol.com>,
> pmcd...@aol.com (Pmcduffee) wrote:
> > >From: "Alonzo Gariepy" <alo...@aa.net>
> >
> > >Can anybody lend me their experience about root canals, capped
> > >teeth and tooth squeeze? I have a friend who is going with me to
> > >Fiji, and she's fairly certain that her dentist told her that there
> is
> > >some kind of air pocket in her capped teeth. Mind you, I expect
> > >that anyone who has had severe problems isn't likely to be reading
> > >this newsgroup :). Perhaps you know someone...
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Well, I had a tooth capped just a few months ago. I
> > particularly mentiond to my dentist to be especially aware
> > of bubbles in the cement when putting on the permanent
> > cap. Soon after I was on a week long liveaboard trip, and
> > did around 20 dives. Didn't have any problems. When
> > flying home, I may have had a sensation in my tooth, but
> > it may have been my imagination, as I was looking for
> > something to happen.
> >
> > That's my story.
> >
> > Pat
> Pretty much the same here except I have a root canal and capped tooth
> (the same tooth, go figure). Never had a problem.

I've had several root canals done, and have caps or crowns on most of my
back teeth. I've had several done during the last few years, as well as
several older ones. I've never experienced tooth squeeze... Thank God!

Steve Kramer
Osaka, Japan
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opihi

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my dentist is a diver and won't let me dive with a temporary cap,
otherwise no problems with rootcanals or caps

have noticed that no matter how well my top denture fits normally,
it's a good idea to use an adhesive because the dryness makes it a little
loose after a while

switched to a micra to avoid the torquing from a heavier regulator

opihi

Alonzo Gariepy wrote:
][ Can anybody lend me their experience about root canals, capped


][ teeth and tooth squeeze? I have a friend who is going with me to
][ Fiji, and she's fairly certain that her dentist told her that there is
][ some kind of air pocket in her capped teeth. Mind you, I expect
][ that anyone who has had severe problems isn't likely to be reading
][ this newsgroup :). Perhaps you know someone...

][ thanks,

][ Alonzo Gariepy
][ alo...@aa.net

JWiebbecke

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Nov 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/16/99
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<<Can anybody lend me their experience about root canals, capped teeth and
tooth squeeze? >>

Like everyone else, I've heard about the possibility and include it in the
curriculum to my students. I personally have not had the problem and, until
last year, didn't know anyone who had had such a problem.

A former student went with us to Mexico last December ... and on Dive #1, she
experienced major tooth squeeze ... an air pocket beneath a cap. Mind you, she
had dived before with no problem. She was in terrible pain ... continued to
dive for the rest of the trip in spite of it. When she returned home, the
first thing she did was to get into the dentist's chair and have the thing
taken care of. She has not had it occur again. So, yes, it does happen.

jj


Quo48for

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Nov 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/16/99
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I have a mouthful of crowns and too many root canals to count over the years.
I've been diving for over ten years and never had a problem. It does happen,
but I think it's pretty rare. If you're concerned, see your dentist before you
go.

Ron Graves

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Nov 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/16/99
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I've had two root canals and two caps recently and logged about 20 dives
since. Been to. 110 ft. or so. No problems!
Regards,
Ron Graves
"Zeal without knowledge is like fire without light".
--- Thomas Fuller 1732

Alonzo Gariepy wrote:

> Can anybody lend me their experience about root canals, capped

Stephen Roach

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Nov 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/17/99
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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:49:38 -0800, "Alonzo Gariepy" <alo...@aa.net>
wrote:

> Can anybody lend me their experience about root canals, capped
> teeth and tooth squeeze? I have a friend who is going with me to
> Fiji, and she's fairly certain that her dentist told her that there is
> some kind of air pocket in her capped teeth. Mind you, I expect
> that anyone who has had severe problems isn't likely to be reading
> this newsgroup :). Perhaps you know someone...
>

I am unfortunate in that I am a product of British dentistry, i.e. I
had an absolute mess. I got them all fixed up in the Philippines,
'though, and the work included a LOT of root canal treatment. It's
hard to tell now that a British dentist has been anywhere near my
mouth.

Anyway, no problems diving.

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Keith L

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Nov 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/17/99
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I thought I would respond since I am a diver that has experenced tooth
sequeeze. Well not really tooth squeeze, since that really wasn't a air
pocket, but just pain in the tooth while diving.

I had a tooth that needed a root canal and was very sensitive. Every time
that I went below 90 feet it started to hurt. Once I got the root canal
done. It never bothered me again.

Alonzo Gariepy <alo...@aa.net> wrote in message
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> Can anybody lend me their experience about root canals, capped
> teeth and tooth squeeze? I have a friend who is going with me to
> Fiji, and she's fairly certain that her dentist told her that there is
> some kind of air pocket in her capped teeth. Mind you, I expect
> that anyone who has had severe problems isn't likely to be reading
> this newsgroup :). Perhaps you know someone...
>

> thanks,
>
> Alonzo Gariepy
> alo...@aa.net
>
>

Brian E. Baker

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Nov 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/17/99
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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:49:38 -0800, "Alonzo Gariepy" <alo...@aa.net>
wrote:

>Can anybody lend me their experience about root canals, capped


>teeth and tooth squeeze? I have a friend who is going with me to
>Fiji, and she's fairly certain that her dentist told her that there is
>some kind of air pocket in her capped teeth. Mind you, I expect
>that anyone who has had severe problems isn't likely to be reading
>this newsgroup :). Perhaps you know someone...
>
>thanks,
>
>Alonzo Gariepy
>alo...@aa.net
>

A freund of mine had a squeeze on a temporary crown that actually
leaked. Then on the way up of course had a block, and the crown came
off. He said it did not hurt at all coming off, but it did make meal
time a bit uncomfortable for the rest of the trip.

I'd say just make sure the dentist knows that air pockets are not
acceptable, so he/she will be extra careful, and in this case you may
have your freund check into getting her tooth redone just to be safe.
If cap or crown pops off it is not that much of a problem, but if a
root canal goes you might be missing a tooth or at least have a severe
crack in it.

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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:49:38 -0800, "Alonzo Gariepy" <alo...@aa.net>
wrote:

>Can anybody lend me their experience about root canals, capped
>teeth and tooth squeeze? I have a friend who is going with me to
>Fiji, and she's fairly certain that her dentist told her that there is
>some kind of air pocket in her capped teeth. Mind you, I expect
>that anyone who has had severe problems isn't likely to be reading
>this newsgroup :). Perhaps you know someone...
>
>thanks,
>
>Alonzo Gariepy
>alo...@aa.net
>

The only experience I have heard of directly (i.e. not "a friend of my
third cousin's dog catcher once heard about...") was one of my dive
buddies in the '70s felt something about 5 minutes after we were back
on the boat. A few seconds later he spit out a filling and the pain
was gone (at least until air hit the nerve. ow! Ow! OW!). We were only
down about 35' and this was the third dive that day. He got it patched
up the next day and it never bothered him again as far as I know. His
dentist said it was possible that air under the filling popped it
loose, or it may have just popped loose on it's own.

ken

Alonzo Gariepy

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Nov 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/17/99
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Thanks for all the feedback. My friend called her dentist in Spain and he
told her that there is no air pocket after all and that there shouldn't be
a problem. He advised her not to go below 15m (probably good advice
anyway :)). From all the responses I've gotten, I would say that few
problems are experienced with crowns and the worst that usually happens
is that they sometimes (rarely) come off.

I've been reading in scuba.equipment about these pink tinted masks and
now I'm worried that the real danger diving may be getting the blues. :P

Alonzo

Fishbre396

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In article <19991115221026...@ng-xa1.aol.com>, rsm...@aol.com
(RSMEEJ) writes:

My guess would be that the teeth which end up with the 'air pockets' are not
those with root canals.

TecnoM1934

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I've been diving with crowns and a root canal, not to mention lots of old
fillings, for several years now with no problems even below 100 fsw.
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Dan Yuchnovicz

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Nov 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/19/99
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My dive instructor told me that the real danger from a tooth squeeze comes
from _cracked_ teeth. I had a cracked molar that didn't cause much pain
(versus a $600 cap). Compressed air gets into the crack and can't get out,
like under a loose filling. Had to get it fixed.
Dan

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Michael Newman

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On 19 Nov 1999 22:04:15 GMT, "Dan Yuchnovicz"
<d.e.yuc...@larc.nasa.gov> wrote:

>My dive instructor told me that the real danger from a tooth squeeze comes
>from _cracked_ teeth. I had a cracked molar that didn't cause much pain
>(versus a $600 cap). Compressed air gets into the crack and can't get out,
>like under a loose filling. Had to get it fixed.

Well, now I'm worried. I've got a cracked tooth that hasn't much
bothered me yet. The dentist X-rayed it and advised against a
crown at this time. He knew I was a diver, but he is not. I don't
want to be out on a liveaboard and start suffering.

Anyone else have experience with a cracked tooth?

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