Our kids will be picking a name soon and I was wondering if anybody had any
suggestions for names other than the basic ones, especially names using the
existing patches.
Thanks.
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DON'T DO FOR A BOY WHAT HE CAN DO FOR HIMSELF!
Your guys aren't dummies - let 'em figure out their own name. They
may stumble and trip but they can do it. Believe me, your guys are
great - treat them that way.
Serious - your suggestions will set the wrong tone for the whole unit.
John "Doc" Holladay
SM T1000
Plano, Tx
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Their patch was the blank one you can get from supply for your own embroidery--
they just left it blank.
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In article <39A66F99...@ti.com>,
J...@ti.com wrote:
> Yea, got a great suggestion.
>
> DON'T DO
FOR A BOY WHAT HE CAN DO FOR HIMSELF!
>
> Your guys aren't dummies - let 'em figure out
their own name. They
> may stumble and trip but they can do it.
Believe me, your guys are
> great - treat them that way.
>
> Serious - your suggestions will set the wrong
tone for the whole unit.
>
> John "Doc" Holladay
> SM T1000
> Plano, Tx
>
> MountNDreamR wrote:
> >
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Before you buy.
Almost anything will inspire them. A list of patrol names other used
isn't a bad start. So, a few ideas:
Back in the mid-70's we had a "Duster Patrol" - named after my car, for
some reason. That hasn't happened again, though.
Then, there was the "Generic Patrol" during the time that generic
products were big - remember the breakfast cereal in plain white boxes
with stenciled "CEREAL"? Anyway, their patrol flag was plain white with
"PATROL" written on it, the patrol yell was "yell"... you get the idea.
Several of our past patrols were based on the standard patches - one of
them looked like a flying banana to the Scouts, so they became the
"Flying Banana Patrol" (was it the Eagle patch?). We also had a "Rabid
Raccoon Patrol" for a few years - they had one of the mothers embroider
foam on the mouth of the raccoon.
Right now we have a "Mad Cow Patrol" and a "Mr. Potato Head" patrol. At
the last Camporee I saw a "The Patrol" (the The Patrol?) and an "Old
Patrol".
If you can get an old Scout Handbook (pre-WWII), look at the patrol
names and emblems in there. They came with pre-done calls and colors for
Scout Staves, too.
Here are a few more ideas:
I've always liked the idea of an "American Patrol" - how many patrols
can claim their own Glenn Miller theme song?
Finally, how about a look at movie and TV titles (a tip of the hat to
the Internet Movie Database):
On Patrol (1922) - Air Patrol (1962) - Ski Patrol (1940) - Sky Patrol
(1940) - Dawn Patrol (1930) - Dumb Patrol (1964) - Fire Patrol (1924) -
Lone Patrol (1928) - Lost Patrol (1929) - Soul Patrol (1980) - Coast
Patrol (1925) - Crime Patrol (1936) - Ghost Patrol (1936) - Korea Patrol
(1951) - Motor Patrol (1950) - Night Patrol (1984) - Radar Patrol (vs.
Spy King) (1950) - Radio Patrol (1932) - Range Patrol (1923) - River
Patrol (1948) - Space Patrol (1984) - Yukon Patrol, The (1942) - Alaska
Patrol (1949) - Arabis Patrol (1899) - Border Patrol (1943) - Canine
Patrol (1945) - Cuckoo Patrol (1965) - Danger Patrol (1928) - Desert
Patrol (1938) - Texas Patrol (1985) - Jungle Patrol (1948) - Khyber
Patrol (1954) - Misfit Patrol (1998) - Panama Patrol (1939) - Pigeon
Patrol (1942) - Planet Patrol (1999) - Police Patrol (1925) - Secret
Patrol (1936) - Pirate Patrol (1983) - Dragnet Patrol (1932) - Highway
Patrol (1938) - Phantom Patrol (1936) - Desert Patrol (1958) (USA) -
Midnight Patrol, The (1918) - Northern Patrol (1953) - Morning Patrol
(1987) - Avalanche Patrol (1947) - Le Pig-Al Patrol (1967) - North Sea
Patrol (1939) - Scouting Patrol (1967) - Submarine Patrol (1938) -
Siberian Patrol (1931) - Paris Vice Patrol (1958) - Rio Grande Patrol
(1950) - Wilderness Patrol (1928) - Woodpigeon Patrol (1930) - Royal
Mounted Patrol (1941) - Legion's Last Patrol (1962) - Washington's Sky
Patrol (1918) - Otter Patrol (1918) - International Ice Patrol (1947) -
Bat Patrol (1967) (TV) - Star Patrol (2000) (TV) - Beach Patrol (1979)
(TV) - B.R.A.T. Patrol (1986) (TV) - Doberman Patrol (1973) (TV) - Rat
Patrol (1966) TV series - Duck Patrol (1998) TV series - Math Patrol
(1977) TV series - Border Patrol (1959) TV series - Talent Patrol (1953)
TV series - African Patrol (1957) TV series - Highway Patrol (1955) TV
series
And, finally, from my late best friend, Bill Wood, the patrol he was in,
Troop 201, Endicott NY:
"My Patrol"
YIS
Mike Brown
SM, Tr. 80 Cortland NY (B-P Council)
When my son moved to Boy Scouts, his new boy patrol's designation
was the "Falling Anvils". We came up with a cartoonish depiction
of an Anvil with straight lines to suggest its motion, and I created
a set of iron-on emblems that would fit on the blank patrol patch.
Unfortunately the heat necessary to transfer the image to the patch
was sufficient to screw up the iron-on-transfer backing that BSA puts
on the back of the patch ;-)
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At first glance, you might think they aspired to the lofty Scouting ideals of
the Pedro Patrol of Boy's Life Magazine fame. But you needed to look again.
At the time I knew them, one of the popular kids in the patrol was a Hispanic
kid nicknamed Pedro.
The emblem on their flag was not a burro, but a taco.
Great creativity and super sense of humor.
> As a Scout, I met a few kids at camp in the Pedro Patrol.
>
> At first glance, you might think they aspired to the lofty Scouting ideals of
> the Pedro Patrol of Boy's Life Magazine fame. But you needed to look again.
>
> At the time I knew them, one of the popular kids in the patrol was a Hispanic
> kid nicknamed Pedro.
>
> The emblem on their flag was not a burro, but a taco.
Sure it wasn't a burro-ito, yuk, yuk, yuk.
Sam Howard
If they want to buy them, it's fine, if they want to make them, that's fine
too. It's up to them. Depending on what they tell me, I've handed out
blanks and they can sew their own (in one case, a group drew rats), in
another case, they sewed a square on the patch and called themselves the
boxes...
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John Nelson
Eagle Scout '79
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Frogs
Burley Big Horns
Bodacious Big Bad Bald Eagles (sometimes known as the B4 patrol... and by
other names depending on the cirmstances)
Ferocious Falcons
Raging Raccoons
Great Horned Owls
Wise Wolves
We have had other more interesting names too... for example ECH-TAP-DUH..
none of the adults ever got the straight story... one rumor was that it was
composed of the initials of the boys girl friends, (some initials repeated
twice... not sure if the girl friends were repeated though) at the time the
patrol was formed... considering this was when they were in the 8th grade...
I guess it is possible... The name stuck for over 4 years until the patrol
retired... just pronouncing the name was a patrol yell...
We have over 120 active boys in our Troop and a very high retention rate...
The boys take the Patrol names seriously and they usually stay with the
patrol throughout their Scouting career... Sometimes a new "venture" patrol
will form to accommodate a special interest and take on a new name...
(sometimes composed of the names of the joining patrols... we might someday
have the Burley Bodacious Big Bad Bald Eagles, for example) But patrols
names stick pretty much from pioneer to senior venture...
Pretty much anything goes... lots of thought goes into the patrol name... It
is not uncommon for the PLC to send one back for "a little work"... The
Scoutmaster has been know to "help" a little too.
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"Wimwingwit" <wimwi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> As a Scout, I met a few kids at camp in the Pedro Patrol.
>
> At first glance, you might think they aspired to the lofty Scouting ideals
of
> the Pedro Patrol of Boy's Life Magazine fame. But you needed to look
again.
>
> At the time I knew them, one of the popular kids in the patrol was a
Hispanic
> kid nicknamed Pedro.
>
> The emblem on their flag was not a burro, but a taco.
>
Last year, we had the "Revolutionary Sea Monkeys", commonly called the RSMs.
It was the new boy patrol, and they really liked the name so we ordered
special patches of their own design. As it turned out, the patches took
several months and were expensive (I think I heard $80). Now those boys
will be moving into regular patrols. Wanna buy some RSM patches?
When I was a Scout, we had 10 patrols which lined up alphabetically in
patrol formations. Our patrols re-formed every year. The prize spots were
at either end, next to the water fountains in the gym in which we met. The
year I was PL, somebody else grabbed the name "Aardvarks" so I looked to the
end of the alphabet. We became the "Zucchini Patrol". (Unfortunately,
another PL took out his dictionary and found out about the Zuni Indians, so
the Zuni Patrol beat us to the prize spot.)
Our flag had a big green zucchini on it. It turned out to be a great
advantage. At the spring camporee, the judges told us we had a perfect
score on a site inspection. At the end of the camporee, we were very
disappointed to receive a patrol red ribbon. We looked at our score sheet
(computerized in the early days of computers) and saw the site inspection
only gave us a "70" rather than "100". We checked with the judges, who
vividly remembered what they called "that foolish squash" and verified that
the score was wrong. (It turned out they ran one set of punch cards through
the computer twice, and didn't enter the site inspection.) With our score
corrected, we got the blue ribbon we deserved. I guess the moral is that an
unusual name and flag can be a real advantage.
Jim Peterson, CC
Troop 50, Nahant, MA
Denise
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And ours is "The Wheezing Geezers" - you can imagine our patrol
"yell"...
Jim
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We have a current Roadkill patrol -- they use an upside down raccoon emblem.
And yes, I would never presume to be as creative as the Scouts. I give
them two rules: you have to use a premade emblem and you have to be able to
explain it to your mother.
YiS,
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>Just a side note on this thread, the adult leaders in our Troop have our
>own Patrol name. We are affectionately known as the "Old Crow" Patrol. My
>husband even bought me a big crow hand puppet to take on campouts!
In our council we have a group of retired volunteers who are former
leaders that help out wherever and whenever asked that call themselves
the "Over The Hill" gang.
Other such groups are called the Silver Eagles, Senior Scouters and the
Granny Patrol.
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Others I have heard were Mad Cow ("Moo, dammit!"), Caffeine (the flag
had a coffee cup) and Bull (during Chicago's glory days).
My troop guide's JLT patrol was the Radioactive Wombats. This was cut
down quite a bit; the original was "Smurf-Eating Radioactive Wombats Who
Are Ruggedly Handsome."
I know of a Patriot Patrol; they wore black berets, white gloves, and
army boots.
>j.lance wilkinson, (814) 865-1818 <j...@psulias.psu.edu> wrote:
>> Unfortunately the heat necessary to transfer the image to the patch
>> was sufficient to screw up the iron-on-transfer backing that BSA puts
>> on the back of the patch ;-)
>
>Not sure I've ever seen anybody actually use that backing though. I know
>if I move a patch off my uniform that's been there a while, there are bits
>of plastic stuck to the shirt, but I thought the plastic backing was to
>tie down the loose ends of the embroidery...
"Baloo" is correct. The backing is NOT iron-on and I spend time every
spring explaining this to new parents so that when their scouts
outgrow their uniforms, the uniforms will come back clean into the
troop uniform bank, rather then with large burnt plastic spots and/or
holes where the patches where.
Scott Bernier, SM Troop 443, Winslow, Maine
Eagle Scout, 1988
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Perhaps it's not in *technicologically* (is that a word?) an iron-on backing,
but it sure as heck stuck like an iron-on backing to the pillowcase I was
using as a heat sink under the blank patrol patches as I ironed-on the emblem
my son's patrol had chosen and I'd created for them on a Hewlett-Packard
InkJet printer with HP's special iron-on paper. Given that (unintentional)
experience, I can see where hundreds of parents nationwide, hard-pressed for
the time to sew patches on anyway, would consider it to *be* iron-on.
Personally I think hand sewing ought to be a required ACHIEVEMENT for youth
by the Bear year ;-)
Apparently National has chosen to come to the rescue of sewing-impaired
families, too. Rumor has it that rolling changes to uniforming of Cub Scouts
will come over the next few years:
1) Tiger Cubs will eventually wear the BLUE shirt rather than the
Orange T-Shirt
2) A Tiger badge in the same form factor as Bobcat, Wolf and Bear
will appear, placed where Bobcat goes now.
3) Bobcat, Wolf and Bear badges will rotate to the current positions
of the Wolf, Bear and Webelos badges, respectively.
4) As a boy moves to Webelos, it is hoped they will to the Khaki
shirt at that time.
5) All the earlier diamond badges are *replaced* with the new Webelos
badge when earned, and it will have the same vertical elipse
form factor as the badges issued in Boy Scouts.
This is to make it "easier" on parents, meaning once a badge goes on a uniform
there isn't any real reason to remove it until the boy achieves the Scout
rank in Boy Scouts; at that point the removed badge is replaced with one of
an identical size/shape for the rest of his advancement career.
This is all being effected because, apparently, focus groups and surveys
conducted have said that "sewing and re-sewing" patches are a major problem
for today's busy parents.
*my rumor sources don't mention placement of the Arrow of Light rank badge,
but I suspect [PERSONAL OPINION ONLY] that if they're going to be consistant
with this, the current Cub Scouts placement of Arrow of Light on the left
pocket flap will be changed to the current Boy Scouts placement below the
rank insignia; this would further the effort to reduce sewing impact.
Our Mad Cow patrol used, "Moo, nyahahahaha" (insert evil chuckle here).
Mike Brown
SM, Tr. 80, Cortland NY (B-P Council)
<SNIP>
> Personally I think hand sewing ought to be a required ACHIEVEMENT for
youth
> by the Bear year ;-)
Exactly.
Whose uniform is it? The boy's. Whose Program is it? The boy's. Who get a
"tsk tsk" at inspections if the uniform isn't quite right? The boy.
<SNIP>
> This is all being effected because, apparently, focus groups and surveys
> conducted have said that "sewing and re-sewing" patches are a major
problem
> for today's busy parents.
While not wanting to seem to be knocking parental involvement and help when
necessary, I don't think anyone has ever been found dead in a chair from "a
tragic sewing accident". When the boys are Tigers, earning Bobcat (which
took most boys in my pack in 1978 one or two den meetings, is it still this
quick?) and earning Wolf, they may not have the hand-eye coordination needed
to keep blood off their uniforms, but certainly by the time they start work
on their Bear rank, they should be able to handle some of this stuff.
Besides which, when the boys are in the Tiger, Bobcat, and Wolf programs,
they are still young enough that the parents should *expect* to spend a lot
of time with them. Am I nuts? Involvement in a child's life shouldn't be a
"problem" for a parent, it should be a responsibility.
I'm not saying that busy parents are bad parents, but if your job or other
activities keep you out of your child's life on a regular basis (I'm not
talking about missing the occasional Little League game or dance/piano
recital because a work-related or other emergency came up), maybe it's time
to revisit priorities.
--
Ernie Lansford, Eagle Scout c/o 1988
Former Ordeal Member Yustaga Lodge
Gulf Coast Council
>In article <130lo8...@ursine.dyndns.org>, Baloo Ursidae <ba...@ursine.dyndns.org> writes:
>>Seems like a really fast way to loose a lot of patches quickly. Not sure
>>how you could mistake the backing for iron-on anyway...
>
>Perhaps it's not in *technicologically* (is that a word?) an iron-on backing,
[snip]
>Personally I think hand sewing ought to be a required ACHIEVEMENT for youth
>by the Bear year ;-)
There is an official Boy Scout mending kit. ENCOURAGE your scouts to
use it. I admit I haven't succeeded in getting all to use it, but
some of my scouts do sew their own badges. Maybe it's because of my
encouragement, maybe their parents (Mom) telling them they have to do
it themselves, or perhaps it's our school system which requires home
ec. for all students (both cooking and sewing) in 7th grade.
Of course National also sells a patch glue, which is 'great' for busy
parents as long as you never plan on removing a patch ever again.
Another one of those things I *DON'T* recommend to parents.
Then again, I am a patch collector. :)
Scott Bernier, Scoutmaster Troop 443, K-Valley District, Pine Tree
Council http://members.mint.net/moxieman/patch.html
Charley
I used to be a Bobwhite......
Scoutmaster, Troop 206,
Corvallis, OR
"Baloo Ursidae" <ba...@ursine.dyndns.org> wrote in message
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> I had to sew all my patches on. I got good at it. Machine sewn for
> everything but pocket patches, at that.
--
Charley
I used to be a Bobwhite......
Scoutmaster, Troop 206,
Corvallis, OR
"Baloo Ursidae" <> wrote in message news:44lpo8...@ursine.dyndns.org...
>
> I'd never get the pocket back in place the way it originally was, I know
> this. I'll stick to hand-sewing pockets...
>
> --
> Baloo
YiS
Pat Klever
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