Inviting Non-Scout on Troop Outing
CarolK
(caving) trip that we have upcoming. This boy is not a Scout. His
parents won't be attending.
Obviously, we'll get permission slips,and have the boys parents sign
the same caving release form that the rest of the troop will be
signing, but is there anything else we need?? Is this even allowed??
I have read through the guide to safe scouting and this issue isn't
addressed that I can find. Should we have the boy register as a
Scout??
Thanks,
Carol
CC - Troop 8
Greater Alabama Council
FL PBPress
Different strokes for different folks, and the best advice I can give, is
to discuss the issue with a unit or district commissioner, or even the district
exec.
I have been in councils that actively encouraged scouts to invite their
non-scout friends on troop outings (with the permission of the scoutmaster),
with the hope that the non-scout would like the outing, and join.
Then, on the other side of the coin, I've been in councils where there was
a flat prohibition of the practice.
Your best source of information, is your local council office.
Ken
Victor Radin
clkel...@msn.com says...
the usual parental signatures, etc as you've already determined. G2SS
doesn't have anything about guests, but all other stuff in there applies
to them anyway. This is covered in the insurance paperwork that your
local council will have- you can get a copy from them, but you're on
your own finding someone to decipher the legalese mumbo-jumbo in it.
BTW- Having a "bring-a-buddy" campout is also an excellent recruitment
tool.
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Vic Radin
Scoutmaster, Troop 12
Northeast Illinois Council
Paul Johnson
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The 19 Jan 2004 11:26:24 -0800, CarolK <clkel...@msn.com> wrote:
> One of our scouts wants to invite a friend on a weekend troop camping
> (caving) trip that we have upcoming. This boy is not a Scout. His
> parents won't be attending.
Looks like you have a golden recruitment opportunity right there. I
would suggest to the boy's friend in the troop that he borrow a spare
copy of the Handbook from the troop library for the non-member to
thumb through on the way there. Who knows? With any luck, this boy
may bring his own book and show up at your next meeting bugging your
SM to sign off on the joining requirements.
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Stephen M. Henning
> One of our scouts wants to invite a friend on a weekend troop camping
> (caving) trip that we have upcoming. This boy is not a Scout. His
> parents won't be attending.
We have always encouraged Scouts to bring along friends on activities as
a recruiting tool. Our council promotes such activities. Our council
insurance covers prospective members on activities covered by an
approved Tour Permit. We ask that the Scout fill out a BSA youth
application so we have personal information and the health information
on the back with a signed "permission to treat" statement. I personally
ask that a parent come along unless one of the adults that is on the
trip knows the boy or his family. The important thing is that you know
what you would do if the boy wanted to walk off and said that you
couldn't do anything about it because he wasn't a Boy Scout.
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Dean, Los Angeles
I agree with all of the above from a positive aspect, fun for the boy,
possible recruitment, etc.
From a negative aspect, your council insurance may or may not cover a
non-Scout, and the designated leader would be legally responsible if
he is injured. If for some reason he hates it, and demands to go home,
you're stuck with the outcome.
There isn't any difference from the Scoutmaster taking the troop on an
outing one weekend, and the exact same people going to the identical
place the next weekend not as Scouts. The difference is that you would
have a tour permit that makes it a "Scout" outing. The lack of a tour
permit would make it up to you to prove that it was a Scout outing if
one wasn't filed.
Not trying to rain on your parade, and I have done it, but these days
you have to know what all of the consequences are, don't you?
Dean