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J. Hugh Sullivan

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Jun 25, 2012, 2:57:09 PM6/25/12
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By Don Kausler Jr./Tuscaloosa Bureau, The Birmingham News,
Press-Register, and The Huntsville Times al.com

It's been a banner year for banners in the Southeastern Conference.

The powerful league can tie its record of 10 national championships in
a single academic year if South Carolina bounces back to win the
College World Series for the third consecutive year. The record was
set in 1998-99.

If you lost track after Alabama defeated LSU in an All-SEC national
championship football game, here are the other national champs from
the SEC this year:

Alabama in gymnastics, women's golf and softball; Kentucky in men's
basketball; Florida in women's tennis, men's indoor track and field
and men's outdoor track and field; and LSU in women's outdoor track
and field. Five of those titles have come in the past month.

Another baseball title would give the SEC championships in half of the
20 sports in which it sponsors championships.

If that isn't impressive enough, consider this: More than half of the
national champions from the SEC failed to win the league championship.

Alabama, of course, didn't even win its division in football. The
Crimson Tide finished second behind Florida in gymnastics. In women's
golf, Alabama finished behind Auburn and Arkansas. And Arkansas was
the SEC indoor and outdoor track champion. Don't forget: In men's
basketball, Kentucky won the regular-season title but lost to
Vanderbilt in the SEC tournament championship game.

And in baseball, South Carolina was neither the regular-season
champion nor the tournament champion. LSU won the regular-season
title; Mississippi State won the tournament.

In a league that is SECond to none, some teams have made the most of
second chances.

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J. Hugh Sullivan

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Jun 25, 2012, 2:58:09 PM6/25/12
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Sorry, wrong Newsgroup.

Hugh

Emma Pease

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Jul 29, 2012, 11:03:46 AM7/29/12
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On 2012-06-25, J. Hugh Sullivan <Ea...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Sorry, wrong Newsgroup.
>
> Hugh

Well yes, however Stanford took the Director's cup again for the
best overall program for the 18th straight year.

Emma
just peeking in


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J. Hugh Sullivan

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Jul 29, 2012, 12:09:00 PM7/29/12
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:03:46 +0000 (UTC), Emma Pease
<er_p...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On 2012-06-25, J. Hugh Sullivan <Ea...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> Sorry, wrong Newsgroup.
>>
>> Hugh
>
>Well yes, however Stanford took the Director's cup again for the
>best overall program for the 18th straight year.
>
>Emma
>just peeking in

But Bama took the trophy in the only sport that counts - football -
and I was at the game in New Orleans.

Bama also won Nat'l Championships in Girls Softball and Gymnastics.
The men's golf team was 1 stroke more than Texas.

That's not bad for a tiny school in the Deep South.

Hugh

Emma Pease

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Jul 29, 2012, 6:47:43 PM7/29/12
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On 2012-07-29, J. Hugh Sullivan <Ea...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:03:46 +0000 (UTC), Emma Pease
><er_p...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2012-06-25, J. Hugh Sullivan <Ea...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> Sorry, wrong Newsgroup.
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>
>>Well yes, however Stanford took the Director's cup again for the
>>best overall program for the 18th straight year.
>>
>>Emma
>>just peeking in
>
> But Bama took the trophy in the only sport that counts - football -
> and I was at the game in New Orleans.

Stanford had Luck who stayed an extra year to finish up his degree and
didn't do too badly in football. Not sure he was ever a Boy Scout but
by all accounts I've heard is a modest and considerate young man; I hope
he does well.

I didn't go to the games though my brother and his wife did (she is from
Wisconsin, football is religion).

> Bama also won Nat'l Championships in Girls Softball and Gymnastics.
> The men's golf team was 1 stroke more than Texas.
>
> That's not bad for a tiny school in the Deep South.

Stanford has less than a third of Alabama's undergraduates in numbers.
Championships in women's soccer, women's water polo and women's
lightweight rowing eights. Several of the water polo players hope to take
the US team to victory in London. Admittedly Stanford does have a lot of
team sports which helps.

Emma

ps. You might find it interesting that Stanford has a scholarship fund for
Eagle scouts http://news.stanford.edu/pr/94/940525Arc4252.html

J. Hugh Sullivan

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Jul 30, 2012, 10:17:15 AM7/30/12
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:47:43 +0000 (UTC), Emma Pease
<er_p...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On 2012-07-29, J. Hugh Sullivan <Ea...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:03:46 +0000 (UTC), Emma Pease
>><er_p...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Stanford had Luck who stayed an extra year to finish up his degree and
>didn't do too badly in football. Not sure he was ever a Boy Scout but
>by all accounts I've heard is a modest and considerate young man; I hope
>he does well.

Luck was a fine QB and a lot more personable that RGIII - the Baylor
loudmouth.
>
>I didn't go to the games though my brother and his wife did (she is from
>Wisconsin, football is religion).

In Alabama football is not a matter of life and death, it's much more
important.
>
>> Bama also won Nat'l Championships in Girls Softball and Gymnastics.
>> The men's golf team was 1 stroke more than Texas.
>>
>> That's not bad for a tiny school in the Deep South.
>
>Stanford has less than a third of Alabama's undergraduates in numbers.

I didn't realize Stanford was so small.

>Championships in women's soccer, women's water polo and women's
>lightweight rowing eights. Several of the water polo players hope to take
>the US team to victory in London. Admittedly Stanford does have a lot of
>team sports which helps.

That's Bama's problem. None of the sports you listed are even played
at Bama.
>
>Emma
>
>ps. You might find it interesting that Stanford has a scholarship fund for
>Eagle scouts http://news.stanford.edu/pr/94/940525Arc4252.html

The military awards a one pay grade increase to all Eagle Scouts. I
served on a college NROTC selection committee a number of years ago.
They were high achievers and almost all were Eagle Scouts.

Over the last few years there have beem some surprises. I've chaired
Boards for Eagle candidates who were top scholars in their high school
classes - even one MIT student. And a couple of home schooled kids
were as sharp.

The public schools are failing while the private schools are doing a
great job. At least that is true in to South and Southwest.

Hugh

Brian Salter-Duke

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Jul 30, 2012, 5:41:07 PM7/30/12
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:17:15 GMT, J. Hugh Sullivan <Ea...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:47:43 +0000 (UTC), Emma Pease
><er_p...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2012-07-29, J. Hugh Sullivan <Ea...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:03:46 +0000 (UTC), Emma Pease
>>><er_p...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Stanford had Luck who stayed an extra year to finish up his degree and
>>didn't do too badly in football. Not sure he was ever a Boy Scout but
>>by all accounts I've heard is a modest and considerate young man; I hope
>>he does well.
>
> Luck was a fine QB and a lot more personable that RGIII - the Baylor
> loudmouth.
>>
>>I didn't go to the games though my brother and his wife did (she is from
>>Wisconsin, football is religion).
>
> In Alabama football is not a matter of life and death, it's much more
> important.

Do you know who first said that? Hint: it was not about your code of
football.

Brian.

>>
>>> Bama also won Nat'l Championships in Girls Softball and Gymnastics.
>>> The men's golf team was 1 stroke more than Texas.
>>>
>>> That's not bad for a tiny school in the Deep South.
>>
>>Stanford has less than a third of Alabama's undergraduates in numbers.
>
> I didn't realize Stanford was so small.
>
>>Championships in women's soccer, women's water polo and women's
>>lightweight rowing eights. Several of the water polo players hope to take
>>the US team to victory in London. Admittedly Stanford does have a lot of
>>team sports which helps.
>
> That's Bama's problem. None of the sports you listed are even played
> at Bama.
>>
>>Emma
>>
>>ps. You might find it interesting that Stanford has a scholarship fund for
>>Eagle scouts http://news.stanford.edu/pr/94/940525Arc4252.html
>
> The military awards a one pay grade increase to all Eagle Scouts. I
> served on a college NROTC selection committee a number of years ago.
> They were high achievers and almost all were Eagle Scouts.
>
> Over the last few years there have beem some surprises. I've chaired
> Boards for Eagle candidates who were top scholars in their high school
> classes - even one MIT student. And a couple of home schooled kids
> were as sharp.
>
> The public schools are failing while the private schools are doing a
> great job. At least that is true in to South and Southwest.
>
> Hugh


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J. Hugh Sullivan

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Jul 30, 2012, 8:04:53 PM7/30/12
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:41:07 GMT, Brian Salter-Duke
<b_d...@bigpond.com.au> wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:17:15 GMT, J. Hugh Sullivan <Ea...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:47:43 +0000 (UTC), Emma Pease
>><er_p...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2012-07-29, J. Hugh Sullivan <Ea...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:03:46 +0000 (UTC), Emma Pease
>>>><er_p...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Stanford had Luck who stayed an extra year to finish up his degree and
>>>didn't do too badly in football. Not sure he was ever a Boy Scout but
>>>by all accounts I've heard is a modest and considerate young man; I hope
>>>he does well.
>>
>> Luck was a fine QB and a lot more personable that RGIII - the Baylor
>> loudmouth.
>>>
>>>I didn't go to the games though my brother and his wife did (she is from
>>>Wisconsin, football is religion).
>>
>> In Alabama football is not a matter of life and death, it's much more
>> important.
>
>Do you know who first said that? Hint: it was not about your code of
>football.
>
>Brian.

If it wasn't Bear Bryant when he was coach at Bama I don't know. So
tell us.

Hugh

Brian Salter-Duke

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Jul 31, 2012, 3:55:09 AM7/31/12
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The English will claim it was Bill Shankley, manager of Manchester
United Football Club. See:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Shankly

This quote is mentioned there. It is not mentioned at:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Bryant

They both died about 30 years ago, so who nicked it from whom is perhaps
not clear, or maybe they both nicked it from somebody else.

Brian.

J. Hugh Sullivan

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Jul 31, 2012, 8:14:27 AM7/31/12
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On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 07:55:09 GMT, Brian Salter-Duke
<b_d...@bigpond.com.au> wrote:

>The English will claim it was Bill Shankley, manager of Manchester
>United Football Club. See:-
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Shankly
>
>This quote is mentioned there. It is not mentioned at:-
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Bryant
>
>They both died about 30 years ago, so who nicked it from whom is perhaps
>not clear, or maybe they both nicked it from somebody else.
>
>Brian.

I have no problem if it was Shankley.

My problem is with calling soccer football when it's the sport played
by people who are not talented enough to play football.

I would drive 800 miles to see the grandsons play football but not
across town to see them play soccer.

I was in New Orleans in January to watch Bama beat LSU for the
National Championship. Roll Tide.

Hugh

Brian Salter-Duke

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Jul 31, 2012, 8:44:34 AM7/31/12
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On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 12:14:27 GMT, J. Hugh Sullivan <Ea...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 07:55:09 GMT, Brian Salter-Duke
><b_d...@bigpond.com.au> wrote:
>
>>The English will claim it was Bill Shankley, manager of Manchester
>>United Football Club. See:-
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Shankly
>>
>>This quote is mentioned there. It is not mentioned at:-
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Bryant
>>
>>They both died about 30 years ago, so who nicked it from whom is perhaps
>>not clear, or maybe they both nicked it from somebody else.
>>
>>Brian.
>
> I have no problem if it was Shankley.
>
> My problem is with calling soccer football when it's the sport played
> by people who are not talented enough to play football.
>
> I would drive 800 miles to see the grandsons play football but not
> across town to see them play soccer.

I would not go next door to watch anyone play any code of football, but
I would place Aussie Rules Football as rather more skillful than either
Soccer or American Football. However, it all depends on what you are
used to. There is little American Football here in Melbourne, quite a
lot of Soccer, played mainly by immigrants from Europe, and Aussie Rules
which is massively popular. There is also a little Rugby Football of
both codes, Union and League, with a lot more in Sydney than Melbourne.
Melbourne is the home of Aussie Rules.

> I was in New Orleans in January to watch Bama beat LSU for the
> National Championship. Roll Tide.

I would go to New Orleans for the jazz, not the football.

J. Hugh Sullivan

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Jul 31, 2012, 10:59:06 AM7/31/12
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On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 12:44:34 GMT, Brian Salter-Duke
We played a version of soccer in high school. We played on half of a
basketall court with concrete wall on two sides and the grandstand on
the third. There was one point for a score and there were no rules.
Only one or two broken bones my senior year but lots of blood. And
nobody got mad. We played without pads - just gym shorts and shirts or
skins.

Aussie football looks interesting.

Hugh

Brian Salter-Duke

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Aug 1, 2012, 6:39:56 PM8/1/12
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It is faster than other codes overall, and, what is not immediately
obvious played on a larger ground. It was designed to use a full cricket
pitch in the winter. It is a religion here in Melbourne. The total who
attend matches every weekend is less than it used to be but is still
staggering, It is a much higher proportion of the poplulation than say
watch professional soccer in London. The grounds hold more than any
English soccer ground. The Melbourne Cricket Ground holds just over
100,000 and once held 121,696 back in 1970 for a Grand Final. It holds
less now as people want more comfort and the safety people had concerns.

However right now I am watching the Olympic Rowing at Eton Downey. That
is the only sport I care about.

J. Hugh Sullivan

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Aug 1, 2012, 8:08:31 PM8/1/12
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I have fast forwarded through many hours of the Olympics. I enjoy
swimming but just the finals, not the heats. Synchronized diving was
interesting. I'd like to see the boxing if they would show more.

Hugh
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