The BSA might want to consider the same
http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/20110321/bs_prweb/prweb8220867_3
The ACLU would sue - they support sexual depravity.
Hugh
I wonder if sexual health education is the challenge of scouts because I
am a german scout and I have never heard of such activities in Germany.
Isn't health education a challenge of teachers and parents?
Yes, I defecate. You obviously don't.
Hugh
Certainly it should not be a primary focus of Scouts. But Scouts
should always emphasize morality. Hopefully it would augment the
eaching of the parents.
Hugh
True, I read it "here"! :-(
Aren't Scout Leaders teachers?
I thought of school teachers but in common, scout leaders are teachers,
too. The difference is that they organize trips, games and learn young
scouts techniques like reading maps, using particular knots, encoding
and decoding of morse code and how to sing scout songs. In my opinion
you can't compare this with biological education.
Scouting is education for life.
If you think it's just "reading maps, using particular knots, encoding
and decoding of morse code and how to sing scout songs" then you are
missing a great deal.
Scouts read maps as a way of learning to understand systems, codes,
communication, environment , history, geography, sociology, ...
They use knots as a way of learning teamwork, history, social skills,
manual dexterity..
The use morse as a code, coummunication, language, memory training...
They sing songs as history, communication , team building,social skills,
group interaction.
Never mistake the aim for the method.
Then my old scouting group failed in educational purpose.
If so, you need a bath - quick. You stink.
Hugh
Morality? Which "morality" and which "god" ? If anything and
everything is morality and god, it's meaningless.
The problem with the Boy Scouts of America is that by requiring ANY
higher power worship, a scout could worship a rotten head of cabbage
and be acceptable. So by even touching the subject, the BSA destroys
all meaning OF the subject.
A Satanist could claim they worship a higher power and have a
morality.
The BSA should teach scoutcraft and get out of the phony morality
business.
With their membership going down like the Titanic and Americans
avoiding the BSA like it was the KKK, they will either change or die.
>On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 18:58:18 GMT, Ea...@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh
>Sullivan) wrote:
>>Certainly it should not be a primary focus of Scouts. But Scouts
>>should always emphasize morality. Hopefully it would augment the
>>eaching of the parents.
>>
>>Hugh
>
>Morality? Which "morality" and which "god" ? If anything and
>everything is morality and god, it's meaningless.
Perhaps even as meaningless as you since you appear to be unbelievably
confused.
If you don't like Scouts do us a favor and refuse to join. That would
certainly be preferable to your oral defecation.
Hugh
>On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 13:42:37 -0500,
>MakeThatBadge...@ScoutingNull.com wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 18:58:18 GMT, Ea...@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh
>>Sullivan) wrote:
>
>>>Certainly it should not be a primary focus of Scouts. But Scouts
>>>should always emphasize morality. Hopefully it would augment the
>>>eaching of the parents.
>>>
>>>Hugh
>>
>>Morality? Which "morality" and which "god" ? If anything and
>>everything is morality and god, it's meaningless.
>
>Perhaps even as meaningless as you since you appear to be unbelievably
>confused.
Really? Then point out the One True God and then show the ten billion
other FALSE gods, one of which the BSA requires you worship to join?
>
>If you don't like Scouts do us a favor and refuse to join. That would
>certainly be preferable to your oral defecation.
>
>Hugh
Scum like YOU are the cancer that needs to leave.
Don't you have to go on a rant about how the BSA worries about child
molestation when its former Program Director was busted dealing kiddie
porn and is serving a prison sentence?
Don't you have to go on a rant about how the BSA's own records
produced in COURT shows it shielded pedophiles like the Catholic
Church?
Idiots like you who look the other way are the reason why
organizations rot from the inside.
If you cared about the BSA you would DEMAND total compliance with the
law at ALL times.
But you are a sycophant who sold your soul to the corporation.
You are a real corporate boy; a real company toad.
That next scout who gets molested will be because you did nothing to
stop it.
>On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:24:24 GMT, Ea...@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh
>Sullivan) wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 13:42:37 -0500,
>>MakeThatBadge...@ScoutingNull.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 18:58:18 GMT, Ea...@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh
>>>Sullivan) wrote:
>>
>>>>Certainly it should not be a primary focus of Scouts. But Scouts
>>>>should always emphasize morality. Hopefully it would augment the
>>>>eaching of the parents.
>>>>
>>>>Hugh
>>>
>>>Morality? Which "morality" and which "god" ? If anything and
>>>everything is morality and god, it's meaningless.
>>
>>Perhaps even as meaningless as you since you appear to be unbelievably
>>confused.
>
>Really? Then point out the One True God and then show the ten billion
>other FALSE gods, one of which the BSA requires you worship to join?
It must really bug you that you can't qualify to be a member of BSA. I
thank God you can't join. If you have too many choices of Gods that's
your problem, not mine.
>>If you don't like Scouts do us a favor and refuse to join. That would
>>certainly be preferable to your oral defecation.
>Don't you have to go on a rant about how the BSA worries about child
>molestation when its former Program Director was busted dealing kiddie
>porn and is serving a prison sentence?
>
>Don't you have to go on a rant about how the BSA's own records
>produced in COURT shows it shielded pedophiles like the Catholic
>Church?
About a rant, no. I fell no need to justify to a coward who doesn't
have the courage to post under his own name.
>If you cared about the BSA you would DEMAND total compliance with the
>law at ALL times.
What law is that?
>That next scout who gets molested will be because you did nothing to
>stop it.
When I was a Scout queers who did the molesting faced a worse problem
than the law. It's your generation that protects them.
Hugh
>On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 11:23:09 -0500,
>MakeThatBadge...@ScoutingNull.com wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:24:24 GMT, Ea...@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh
>>Sullivan) wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 13:42:37 -0500,
>>>MakeThatBadge...@ScoutingNull.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 18:58:18 GMT, Ea...@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh
>>>>Sullivan) wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Certainly it should not be a primary focus of Scouts. But Scouts
>>>>>should always emphasize morality. Hopefully it would augment the
>>>>>eaching of the parents.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hugh
>>>>
>>>>Morality? Which "morality" and which "god" ? If anything and
>>>>everything is morality and god, it's meaningless.
>>>
>>>Perhaps even as meaningless as you since you appear to be unbelievably
>>>confused.
>>
>>Really? Then point out the One True God and then show the ten billion
>>other FALSE gods, one of which the BSA requires you worship to join?
>
>It must really bug you that you can't qualify to be a member of BSA. I
>thank God you can't join. If you have too many choices of Gods that's
>your problem, not mine.
Who said I wasn't a member when I was a kid? And by your flippant
opinion about God, I doubt you are a believing member of that, either.
You really don't believe in anything, do you? You just self-serve.
You are just one of those phony morons who mumble the words, never
believe anything, and are confused by the meaning of words like
"integrity" "honestly" "faith" "courage" "honor".
I bet you laugh out loud when you read about soldiers who have fallen
to give you freedom while you can just sit on your fat duff and
giggle.
You puke.
>
>>>If you don't like Scouts do us a favor and refuse to join. That would
>>>certainly be preferable to your oral defecation.
>
>>Don't you have to go on a rant about how the BSA worries about child
>>molestation when its former Program Director was busted dealing kiddie
>>porn and is serving a prison sentence?
>>
>>Don't you have to go on a rant about how the BSA's own records
>>produced in COURT shows it shielded pedophiles like the Catholic
>>Church?
>
>About a rant, no. I fell no need to justify to a coward who doesn't
>have the courage to post under his own name.
Yet you will support with a blind eye an organization proven in court
to have lied and hidden child abuse and pedophiles in their own midst.
I guess you know where your bread is buttered.
You'll do whatever saves your own sweet ass, cling like a tick to an
organization, not give a damn about what happens and then smile smugly
like you somehow accomplished something by being a morally lazy
coward. Your sort of social parasite are a mental disease.
>
>>If you cared about the BSA you would DEMAND total compliance with the
>>law at ALL times.
>
>What law is that?
You really don't give a damn about kids, do you?
Instead of actively promoting child safety, you drag your high heels
in any way you can to actually encourage child abuse.
>
>>That next scout who gets molested will be because you did nothing to
>>stop it.
>
>When I was a Scout queers who did the molesting faced a worse problem
>than the law. It's your generation that protects them.
>
>Hugh
Most of the men who molest kids are married fathers. FACT.
Fags don't like boys any more than normal heterosexual males lust
after underage girls.
I suspect if we looked far back enough in your background, we would
find you masturbating to pictures of young boys before you dressed up
in your BSA uniform and sat in the front row of your church.
Come on, you know that's true about people like you who live deep in
denial to cover their REAL hungers...
>On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 11:43:35 GMT, Ea...@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh
>Sullivan) wrote:
>>It must really bug you that you can't qualify to be a member of BSA. I
>>thank God you can't join. If you have too many choices of Gods that's
>>your problem, not mine.
>
>Who said I wasn't a member when I was a kid?
Who cares?
>And by your flippant
>opinion about God, I doubt you are a believing member of that, either.
Flippant? There is one God. That means you are welcome to go to Hell.
>You really don't believe in anything, do you? You just self-serve.
>You are just one of those phony morons who mumble the words, never
>believe anything, and are confused by the meaning of words like
>"integrity" "honestly" "faith" "courage" "honor".
Lil feller, I am the poster boy for them.
>
>I bet you laugh out loud when you read about soldiers who have fallen
>to give you freedom while you can just sit on your fat duff and
>giggle.
No. I am a retired 0-5 after 33 years in the Naval Reserve and Active
Duty during WWII.
>>About a rant, no. I feel no need to justify to a coward who doesn't
>>have the courage to post under his own name.
>
>Yet you will support with a blind eye an organization proven in court
>to have lied and hidden child abuse and pedophiles in their own midst.
If I had a blind eye you might be a member.
>
>I guess you know where your bread is buttered.
I should - I did the buttering.
>
>You'll do whatever saves your own sweet ass, cling like a tick to an
>organization, not give a damn about what happens and then smile smugly
>like you somehow accomplished something by being a morally lazy
>coward. Your sort of social parasite are a mental disease.
You need to preface that with the word "successful".
>
>>
>>>If you cared about the BSA you would DEMAND total compliance with the
>>>law at ALL times.
>>
>>What law is that?
>
>You really don't give a damn about kids, do you?
You are really too stupid to answer the question, aren't you? What law
is that?
>Instead of actively promoting child safety, you drag your high heels
>in any way you can to actually encourage child abuse.
>>>That next scout who gets molested will be because you did nothing to
>>>stop it.
>>
>>When I was a Scout queers who did the molesting faced a worse problem
>>than the law. It's your generation that protects them.
>Most of the men who molest kids are married fathers. FACT.
Had one of mine been molested he would never have had a chance to be
tried in court.
>I suspect if we looked far back enough in your background, we would
>find you masturbating to pictures of young boys before you dressed up
>in your BSA uniform and sat in the front row of your church.
>
>Come on, you know that's true about people like you who live deep in
>denial to cover their REAL hungers...
You seem to know a lot more about those things than I do. That must be
something your parents taught you when you were a kid.
Now, why don't you put your little crayons away before one of the
guards comes and takes them.
Hugh