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rms
Sep 3, 2012, 11:54:31 AM9/3/12
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Or he's a poor liar
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/31/1126635/-Ryan-shaved-hr-off-marathon-time
rms
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/31/1126635/-Ryan-shaved-hr-off-marathon-time
rms
J. Corey Connor
Sep 3, 2012, 12:24:31 PM9/3/12
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LOL. Shaving private Ryan.
J. Corey Connor
Sep 3, 2012, 1:24:02 PM9/3/12
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Do you, Miss, remember the times that we met?
Wasn't it fun? Did we run? I forget
exactly. With tact, we sometimes don't recall
The last, but the fastest would never befall
Unknowing, thus showing both Truth and the Lion
of Strength. In the length of an hour, our Ryan
ran rings around things way up there in Duluth.
It seems he was dreaming some other guy's truth.
Wasn't it fun? Did we run? I forget
exactly. With tact, we sometimes don't recall
The last, but the fastest would never befall
Unknowing, thus showing both Truth and the Lion
of Strength. In the length of an hour, our Ryan
ran rings around things way up there in Duluth.
It seems he was dreaming some other guy's truth.
John Hurley
Sep 3, 2012, 3:18:33 PM9/3/12
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rms:
# Not surprised at all really about the lie ... but seriously ... is
this so hard for someone like him to understand that something like
this will be found out easily???
# Not surprised at all really about the lie ... but seriously ... is
this so hard for someone like him to understand that something like
this will be found out easily???
outsideinmi
Sep 3, 2012, 5:08:45 PM9/3/12
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"John Hurley" <hurle...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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triple checked for accuracy by media AND regular people like you and me.
Does he not realize this?? If not, that's the height of stupidity. If he
did, it still is.
Dot
Sep 3, 2012, 11:46:28 PM9/3/12
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tris, but has gotten into marathons recently.
http://gazettextra.com/news/2011/apr/14/boston-baby-ryan-set-beantown-marathon/
So his brother's faster time was done at an older age. Boston time in
2011 was 3:34:06, and Green Bay time (qualifier) in 2010 was 3:29:46.
Tobin has done a lot of triathlons (see athlinks), including a couple
half iron distances.
No wonder his brother ribbed him at dinner - if he didn't outright call
him something else. ;)
Dot
Ken
Sep 4, 2012, 5:54:47 AM9/4/12
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In article <v%81s.2099$Wo5....@newsfe21.iad>, outsideinmi
<kale...@NOSPAMchartermi.net> writes
It all depends on how specific the information is. If a person said that
they did a given time in a given race in a given year that may be
capable of being checked, although in all the hundreds of races that
I've competed in, it is only the odd one or two that I've been required
to show any photo ID.
If a person simply said that there PB was this time, that would be
impossible to check.
I've seen various web sites that purport to show my marathon pb which
are incorrect. It's never bothered me but maybe if I was going into
politics I would contact them to get them corrected.
--
Ken
<kale...@NOSPAMchartermi.net> writes
they did a given time in a given race in a given year that may be
capable of being checked, although in all the hundreds of races that
I've competed in, it is only the odd one or two that I've been required
to show any photo ID.
If a person simply said that there PB was this time, that would be
impossible to check.
I've seen various web sites that purport to show my marathon pb which
are incorrect. It's never bothered me but maybe if I was going into
politics I would contact them to get them corrected.
--
Ken
John Hurley
Sep 4, 2012, 12:21:24 PM9/4/12
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Ken:
# If a person simply said that there PB was this time, that would be
impossible to check.
It is now crystal clear that Paul Ryan has only ever done 1 marathon
and finished above 4 hours ( nothing wrong with that ).
Anyone who has ever completed just 1 marathon will know their
finishing time ( at least approximately ).
Telling an interviewer that they ran a marathon in under 3 hours ...
given the above ... well ... bad things are going to happen with a
"story" like that.
Coverup / spin control now in effect ... "his brother is teasing him
about it" ... etc ...
# If a person simply said that there PB was this time, that would be
impossible to check.
It is now crystal clear that Paul Ryan has only ever done 1 marathon
and finished above 4 hours ( nothing wrong with that ).
Anyone who has ever completed just 1 marathon will know their
finishing time ( at least approximately ).
Telling an interviewer that they ran a marathon in under 3 hours ...
given the above ... well ... bad things are going to happen with a
"story" like that.
Coverup / spin control now in effect ... "his brother is teasing him
about it" ... etc ...
Ken
Sep 4, 2012, 5:24:30 PM9/4/12
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In article
<c8515b1e-3546-4386...@m18g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,
John Hurley <hurle...@yahoo.com> writes
journalists are clever, we can catch out politicians that tell lies." I
say, not so. If a politician makes a statement of specific and
verifiable fact, then it is likely that someone will verify it. However,
the information may not be specific or verifiable. If the man had said I
ran in the Timbuktu Marathon in circa 1977, they didn't record the
results, and I have no idea if the course was measured or not, then it's
not verifiable.
Moreover, to repeat myself it's up to the runner to decide what he
counts as his personal best. In this particular case, I note that it was
a point to point course and a lot of the purists that I know wouldn't
count that in any case for the obvious reason that results might have
been affected by a tail wind. Have the journalists checked up on which
way the wind was blowing?
A pb was never meant to be something to show off about, and in my
opinion it's the time that you can run tomorrow that counts for
something.
Or as a girl in my running club put it:
"I'm fed up with listening to old men banging on about what good runners
they used to be".
--
Ken
<c8515b1e-3546-4386...@m18g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,
John Hurley <hurle...@yahoo.com> writes
>Ken:
>
># If a person simply said that there PB was this time, that would be
>impossible to check.
>
>It is now crystal clear that Paul Ryan has only ever done 1 marathon
>and finished above 4 hours ( nothing wrong with that ).
>
>Anyone who has ever completed just 1 marathon will know their
>finishing time ( at least approximately ).
I would have thought so, yes.
>
># If a person simply said that there PB was this time, that would be
>impossible to check.
>
>It is now crystal clear that Paul Ryan has only ever done 1 marathon
>and finished above 4 hours ( nothing wrong with that ).
>
>Anyone who has ever completed just 1 marathon will know their
>finishing time ( at least approximately ).
>
>Telling an interviewer that they ran a marathon in under 3 hours ...
>given the above ... well ... bad things are going to happen with a
>"story" like that.
>
It all depends. The journalists have a message of their own "We
>Telling an interviewer that they ran a marathon in under 3 hours ...
>given the above ... well ... bad things are going to happen with a
>"story" like that.
>
journalists are clever, we can catch out politicians that tell lies." I
say, not so. If a politician makes a statement of specific and
verifiable fact, then it is likely that someone will verify it. However,
the information may not be specific or verifiable. If the man had said I
ran in the Timbuktu Marathon in circa 1977, they didn't record the
results, and I have no idea if the course was measured or not, then it's
not verifiable.
Moreover, to repeat myself it's up to the runner to decide what he
counts as his personal best. In this particular case, I note that it was
a point to point course and a lot of the purists that I know wouldn't
count that in any case for the obvious reason that results might have
been affected by a tail wind. Have the journalists checked up on which
way the wind was blowing?
A pb was never meant to be something to show off about, and in my
opinion it's the time that you can run tomorrow that counts for
something.
Or as a girl in my running club put it:
"I'm fed up with listening to old men banging on about what good runners
they used to be".
--
Ken
John Hurley
Sep 4, 2012, 8:19:04 PM9/4/12
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Ken:
# Well check out the story in runners world or do a simple google news
search "Paul Ryan Marathon" ...
I guess a British polite way of stating this whopper would be calling
it a "fib" ... it looks more on this side of the ocean to be a case of
"liar liar pants on fire" ...
# Well check out the story in runners world or do a simple google news
search "Paul Ryan Marathon" ...
I guess a British polite way of stating this whopper would be calling
it a "fib" ... it looks more on this side of the ocean to be a case of
"liar liar pants on fire" ...
Doug Freese
Sep 5, 2012, 12:14:45 AM9/5/12
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"John Hurley" wrote in message
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loaded with pants on fire lies. He spent the day on many news programs
trying to cover his folly and by the way, never admitting his prevarication.
Over night has has gone from being a shinning star to being called "Lyin'
Ryan." Palin in 08 and Ryan 12. Do these people use a Ouija board or
tarot cards to pick VP's?
Rounding down from 4 to sub three....... How many Pinocchio's is that worth?
-D
Dot
Sep 5, 2012, 1:37:33 AM9/5/12
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On 9/4/2012 8:14 PM, Doug Freese wrote:
...
>
> Seems like Ryan has been spinning many lies. He speech at the convention
> was loaded with pants on fire lies. He spent the day on many news
> programs trying to cover his folly and by the way, never admitting his
> prevarication. Over night has has gone from being a shinning star to
> being called "Lyin' Ryan." Palin in 08 and Ryan 12. Do these people use
> a Ouija board or tarot cards to pick VP's?
At least the attention is diverted from Alaska. ;)
...
>
> Seems like Ryan has been spinning many lies. He speech at the convention
> was loaded with pants on fire lies. He spent the day on many news
> programs trying to cover his folly and by the way, never admitting his
> prevarication. Over night has has gone from being a shinning star to
> being called "Lyin' Ryan." Palin in 08 and Ryan 12. Do these people use
> a Ouija board or tarot cards to pick VP's?
(except for Sarah's marathon is faster than Ryan's and ex-First Dude
Todd got outshot by downhill skier Picaboo Street in whatever reality
show they were on)
Dot
J. Corey Connor
Sep 5, 2012, 5:07:56 PM9/5/12
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Doug Freese
Sep 6, 2012, 12:31:27 AM9/6/12
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"J. Corey Connor" wrote in message
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>Ryan explains a lie.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/05/paul-ryan-marathon-lie_n_1858384.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009>
time. That first one leaves memories that only Alzheimer's can shake
loose. Lyin Ryan may yet get to run a sub 3 marathon soon from back
peddling since his Convention speech. The fib about the marathon time goes
to character and values not memory.
-D
Ken
Sep 6, 2012, 9:50:10 AM9/6/12
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In article
<07d66738-387d-4633...@h5g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, John
Hurley <hurle...@yahoo.com> writes
I'm not sure what your point is. I think we all worked out that the man
was telling lies. I wasn't defending him.
--
Ken
<07d66738-387d-4633...@h5g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, John
Hurley <hurle...@yahoo.com> writes
was telling lies. I wasn't defending him.
--
Ken
Bart Mathias
Sep 6, 2012, 9:39:50 PM9/6/12
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On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 22:24:30 +0100
Ken <K...@dasha.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> [...]
I'm pretty sure I wasn't one of them.
--
Bart Mathias <mat...@hawaii.edu>
Ken <K...@dasha.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> [...]
> A pb was never meant to be something to show off about, and in my
> opinion it's the time that you can run tomorrow that counts for
> something.
> Or as a girl in my running club put it:
>
> "I'm fed up with listening to old men banging on about what good runners
> they used to be".
Well, I haven't been to the UK since 1998 (when I wasn't even old yet) so
> opinion it's the time that you can run tomorrow that counts for
> something.
> Or as a girl in my running club put it:
>
> "I'm fed up with listening to old men banging on about what good runners
> they used to be".
I'm pretty sure I wasn't one of them.
--
Bart Mathias <mat...@hawaii.edu>
John Hurley
Sep 7, 2012, 6:02:55 PM9/7/12
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Doug:
# The fib about the marathon time goes to character and values not
memory.
Well calling it just a "fib" is more than a little charitable Doug ...
If it runs like a liar and it claims finishing times like a liar ...
probably a liar ...
# The fib about the marathon time goes to character and values not
memory.
Well calling it just a "fib" is more than a little charitable Doug ...
If it runs like a liar and it claims finishing times like a liar ...
probably a liar ...
Doug Freese
Sep 8, 2012, 12:24:45 AM9/8/12
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"John Hurley" wrote in message
his speech a the RNC I dubbed him "Lyin' Ryan." Compared to his speech the
marathon exaggeration while still a lie was less egregious. All these
prevarications both small and large go to his values, or lack of.
-D
outsideinmi
Sep 11, 2012, 5:28:27 PM9/11/12
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>
> Believe me John, my choice of the term fib was truly tongue in cheek.
> After his speech a the RNC I dubbed him "Lyin' Ryan." Compared to his
> speech the marathon exaggeration while still a lie was less egregious.
> All these prevarications both small and large go to his values, or lack
> of.
>
> -D
I have a personal best 2:53 marathon. If i use the Ryan Calculator I run
> Believe me John, my choice of the term fib was truly tongue in cheek.
> After his speech a the RNC I dubbed him "Lyin' Ryan." Compared to his
> speech the marathon exaggeration while still a lie was less egregious.
> All these prevarications both small and large go to his values, or lack
> of.
>
> -D
2:05 - do you think i could ever make that mistake??? Could i mistakenly
tell someone i ran a 2:05 marathon??????????? NO!!!!!!!!
Doug Freese
Sep 12, 2012, 8:49:39 AM9/12/12
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"outsideinmi" wrote in message news:12O3s.2501$is1....@newsfe23.iad...
>I have a personal best 2:53 marathon. If i use the Ryan Calculator I run
2:05 - do you think i could ever make that mistake??? Could i mistakenly
tell someone i ran a 2:05 marathon??????????? NO!!!!!!!! >
2:04. Just ask Ryan. :) :)
Hieronymous707
Sep 18, 2012, 12:47:21 PM9/18/12
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