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Brew1

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Nov 11, 2009, 10:23:03 AM11/11/09
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comment from Karl Meltzer prior to winning the Pinhoti Trail 100:

"I have some periformis [sic] issues, but hope for that to get numb by
mile 40 so I can start running." (karlmeltzer.com)

pithydoug

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Nov 11, 2009, 3:53:25 PM11/11/09
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And your point?

-D

D Stumpus

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Nov 11, 2009, 4:47:20 PM11/11/09
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"Brew1" <brew...@gmail.com> wrote

> "I have some periformis [sic] issues, but hope for that to get numb by
> mile 40 so I can start running." (karlmeltzer.com)

Reminds me of a guy I know who was in 2nd place in a 50 mile race, but his
chondromalacia hurt so much he decided to take a break, and sat down leaning
against a tree and closed his eyes for a few minutes.

When he opened them he noticed that there was a rattlesnake about two feet
away, so he got up and got going. He finished in 2nd.

Brew1

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Nov 11, 2009, 6:53:53 PM11/11/09
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that the reality for me is I can't get away with ignoring injuries--I
end up unable to run for months, definitely not in 1st place. I was
tempted to sign up for our local ultra when I recalled a friend of
mine (another mere mortal) whose one and only try at this race ended
his running career. Kudos to those who can.

rvfulltime

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Nov 11, 2009, 7:52:59 PM11/11/09
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I have a friend, in her 60s, that 10 days ago ran a 100 miler, and then 4 days
later led a 14 mile hike in the mountains of Arizona. She thinks nothing of
running marathons on back to back weeekends. Last year she ran a 42 miler and
two weeks later did a 38 miler. She's crazy! The amazing part is that she is
actually a pretty well balanced person.

pithydoug

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Nov 11, 2009, 8:19:02 PM11/11/09
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On Nov 11, 6:53 pm, Brew1 <brew....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 3:53 pm, pithydoug <dfre...@hvc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 11, 10:23 am, Brew1 <brew....@gmail.com> wrote:
>

> that the reality for me is I can't get away with ignoring injuries--I
> end up unable to run for months, definitely not in 1st place.

Periformis like a lot of "injuries" come in varying degrees. I can't
speak for Karl other than he is great ultra runner and one who has
been at it for some number of years. I stress his number of years
which means he probably has a good idea about how to stress his body
without causing irreparable harm.

This does not mean he runs all the time with pain nor should anyone
run with pain.


>  I was
> tempted to sign up for our local ultra when I recalled a friend of
> mine (another mere mortal) whose one and only try at this race ended
> his running career.  

I know a few that did one and then never another. I'll also go out on
a limb and say the did too little, too much training and/or some major
boners race day. Stopping after one bad experience a big hairy onion
to peel but I'm willing to bet there were some very poor decisions
made.

> Kudos to those who can.

There isn't any magic to running long. You need to understand your
strengths and respective weakness and ever so slowly strengthen your
weaknesses. I know this sounds simple but unless you have some
inherent disabilities, damn near anyone who has the desire, can run
one of these. Stop in at an ultra and look at the runners. There are
just about every body type you can imagine. It's not a gathering of
sleek bodies with 3% body fat with perfect genetics.

-D

pithydoug

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Nov 11, 2009, 8:39:51 PM11/11/09
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On Nov 11, 7:52 pm, rvfulltime <rvfulltime.nosp...@isp.nospaam.com>
wrote:

What's amazing is she is doing it at age 60! These back to back
efforts go on all the time but not many females 60+. I just looked at
50k race that is next March which is sold out(500+) and there is one
female age 60. And it's an easy 50k.

-D

Edward Edmonds

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Nov 12, 2009, 12:51:03 AM11/12/09
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> There isn't any magic to running long. You need to understand your
> strengths and respective weakness and ever so slowly strengthen your
> weaknesses. I know this sounds simple but unless you have some
> inherent disabilities, damn near anyone who has the desire, can run
> one of these. Stop in at an ultra and look at the runners. There are
> just about every body type you can imagine. It's not a gathering of
> sleek bodies with 3% body fat with perfect genetics.
>
> -D

+1

pithydoug

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Nov 12, 2009, 6:10:46 AM11/12/09
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E**2, Is this a rating system? Please post the scale so we/I know when
to try harder. ;)

-D a dinky 1 of

Edward Edmonds

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Nov 12, 2009, 7:41:21 AM11/12/09
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Michelle

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Nov 12, 2009, 9:05:48 AM11/12/09
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In article
<7b875f1f-6598-4069...@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Edward Edmonds <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > -D
> >
> > > +1
> >
> > E**2, Is this a rating system? Please post the scale so we/I know when
> > to try harder. �;)
> >
> > -D a dinky 1 of
>
> http://bit.ly/18G235

Alternatively, you can write "this" which is short for "I agree with this."

--
26.2 Because I can

pithydoug

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Nov 12, 2009, 12:32:18 PM11/12/09
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That defines +1. Is there a reference table such that if someone types
-5 -12, It's a numerical screw you? ;)

M says: Alternatively, you can write "this" which is short for "I
agree with this."

At this rate we too will be like the kids today that resort to 99%
"texting" gobbledygook and we can't write or speak in a full
sentence . Hell, see if they can form a single verbal sentence without
using the word "like."

-D

John Hurley

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Nov 12, 2009, 1:26:57 PM11/12/09
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On Nov 12, 6:10 am, pithydoug <dfre...@hvc.rr.com> wrote:

snip

> E**2, Is this a rating system? Please post the scale so we/I know when
> to try harder.  ;)
>
> -D a dinky 1 of

Maybe we should go with e2 which is similar to i2 and shorter ...

Edward Edmonds

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Nov 12, 2009, 4:08:06 PM11/12/09
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> Maybe we should go with e2 which is similar to i2 and shorter ...

bringing back memories, i'll explain later

pithydoug

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Nov 12, 2009, 6:07:19 PM11/12/09
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I was trying to get him to higher power. :)

-d

Edward Edmonds

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Nov 12, 2009, 8:48:22 PM11/12/09
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> I was trying to get him to  higher power. :)
>
> -d

I was already there :-) ...

Phew, it took me a while to find this in my archives, but E**2 which I
pronounced "E squared" was the name of my design company, that's why I
said it brought back some memories, anyway, here is my old logo:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/edwardedmonds/4099703142/

Charlie Pendejo

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Nov 13, 2009, 6:31:02 AM11/13/09
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Double Ed:

> "E squared" was the name of my design company

relatively close to m^2 C^4...

Michelle

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Nov 13, 2009, 7:32:54 AM11/13/09
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In article
<73d81776-7856-43c7...@31g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>,
Charlie Pendejo <charlie...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > "E squared" was the name of my design company
>
> relatively close to m^2 C^4...

C^4 is ready to explode.

-- Michelle

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