NB MT100s
rms
light. I had to rip out the thin inner sole to put in one with some arch
support, but after 20miles in these I'm already noticing less muscle pain.
Specifically, the sciatic nerve pain that extended all the way from hip to
calf in my right leg after a run of any length, is gone, just not there.
Now I'm thinking I've been wearing shoes with too much pronation support for
all this time. We'll see if this holds up for longer runs. I had to put in
the off-the-shelf insole as I was noticing a slight warning pain where the
plantar tendon attaches to the heel with the stock MT100 flat insole.
There's little volume in the toe box, I can feel my foot sliding forward
inside the shoe more on steep hills, and still feel more secure in the roomy
montrail hardrocks on descents, but otherwise I like the MT100 better. I
think I'm done with big-heeled shoes. Now the question is are there shops
competent in fitting a 'tuned' insole for me, with just enough support.
rms
Doug Freese
"rms" <rsqui...@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote in message
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> Now I'm thinking I've been wearing shoes with too much pronation
> support for all this time. We'll see if this holds up for longer
> runs. I had to put in the off-the-shelf insole as I was noticing a
> slight warning pain where the plantar tendon attaches to the heel with
> the stock MT100 flat insole.
Be damn careful about the sudden change to less arch support. The area
that is currently annoyed can be the early signs of PF(the fascia is
being over stretched). Only suggesting that you go at this change slowly
so you don't swap one probelem for another.
-D
Edward Edmonds
> I'm liking these a lot: good rock protection in the forefoot, a low
> heel, light. I had to rip out the thin inner sole to put in one with
> some arch support, but after 20miles in these I'm already noticing less
> muscle pain. Specifically, the sciatic nerve pain that extended all the
> way from hip to calf in my right leg after a run of any length, is gone,
> just not there. Now I'm thinking I've been wearing shoes with too much
> pronation support for all this time. We'll see if this holds up for
> longer runs. I had to put in the off-the-shelf insole as I was noticing
> a slight warning pain where the plantar tendon attaches to the heel with
That's a pretty normal warning sign when switching to a minimal support
shoe, just take it easy and make sure to recover. I had the same
problem when I switched to no support shoes. I also eventually got a
warning sign on the top of my foot, it will all go away eventually with
careful cautious running and making sure not to overdo it.
> the stock MT100 flat insole.
>
> There's little volume in the toe box, I can feel my foot sliding forward
I know the MT100's are built on a RL-3 last which is the widest of NB's
racing lasts, are you talking about width of the toe box or height of
the toe box?
I have a pair of NB RC152's and that is built on a RL-2 last which has a
narrower toe box but the height is good. Now you got me wondering if I
wasted my money on my MT100's which STILL haven't come in the mail yet
(damn military mail)!
> inside the shoe more on steep hills, and still feel more secure in the
> roomy montrail hardrocks on descents, but otherwise I like the MT100
> better. I think I'm done with big-heeled shoes. Now the question is are
> there shops competent in fitting a 'tuned' insole for me, with just
> enough support.
>
> rms
E**2
Edward Edmonds
wrote:
First thing I noticed, is that they are a lot heavier then my Mizuno flats
which are 3.8 ounces for size 9, but slightly lighter since I'm a size 8
1/2. These are between 7 and 8 ounces, I think 7.6 but I'm not sure what
the exact decimal is. I couldn't believe how much of a difference 4
ounces made in the feel just holding them. They are also because of the
fiberglass rockstop plate and dense midsole a lot less flexible. The top
is all mesh, there are a couple overlays. The inside has a nice feel to
it, can't feel any seems. They have a bit of a heel on them, though that
is a relative statement coming from the 3's, the heel certainly isn't as
big as some of the other mainstream shoes out there. They look like solid
shoe for sure, well made good stitching, the grips on the bottom are
knobby.
I went out for a 10k on the street w/ them, too dark for trails. First
off, they grip the street well, I was tearing around corners in them,
you'd rip your ankle off your foot before the shoe slid across the
pavement, so at least on the street they corner well. First thing I felt
while I was running in them is that the back of the shoe hit the ground a
lot sooner then I'm used to, with the 3's their is a bit more travel after
you touch down and spring back up because of the lack of heel, with these
there wasn't a great deal of travel, not sure how I feel about that; would
definitely take some time to get used too. Going up hill felt fine, going
downhill I had to adjust things a bit because of the heel, really felt it
was getting in the way. For flat streets once I got used to the lack of
travel I felt good, but felt like I had to engage my calves a little more
to travel efficiently and hit the ground ever so perfectly to get into the
rhythm of things. In the middle of my run I knocked out a 6 minute mile
to see how they felt with some speed, definitely could feel the weight of
the shoe, and felt like I had to work against the dense midsole in order
to get good driving power, that I didn't like, of course for their
intended purpose which is long distance trail running I hardly think the
speed would matter much, BUT when your going slower it's hard to tell what
kind of effect in the long run the added weight has.
All and all, I'll be sticking to the trails w/ these, I got them mainly
for the winter time, I needed something to run in the snow with and these
will be a lot more practical then my Mizuno flats for that type stuff. I
had some problems with getting some bruised bones in my feet w/ the
lighter flats on rocky trails, and although I feel like these shoes aren't
perfect minimalist trail shoes, I think they will do the job best they can
in the snow and colder weather. I'd say 7 out of 10 stars for these.
Definitely a step in the right direction as far as minimalist trail shoes
go IMHO, but not quite to my standards.
I'll probably stick to the flats till I can get accustomed to these. I'll
be taking these to the chop shop to have the heel removed in the meantime.
E**2