Running History: Gordon Pirie
Edward Edmonds
http://edwardedmonds.com/pirie/
Gordon Pirie originally wrote it (it's a short read), and Dr. John
Gilbody had it on gordonpirie.com. I came across it when I first
started running and I found it to be inspirational as Pirie was
clearly a runner who was very confident and one who beat Zatopek. The
original PDF file was in dire need of some beautification as well as
formatting to make it more readable so I offered to fix it up and
eventually I'll have the photos in the other PDF set up as a
slideshow, along with a small discussion forum for the book.
I found the section of footwear to be especially interesting, again
someone (Pirie) who advocated minimalist footwear as being fundamental
to running properly and efficiently.
If anything it's a look back into some of the training the runner's of
the past put themselves through.
Enjoy.
Edward
Tim
Good to see that folk are keeping this alive. It's a great read. Any idea
why Dr. Gilbody has stopped hosting it?
Tim
Edward
> Thought I'd share this with ya'll:
>
> http://edwardedmonds.com/pirie/
>
> Gordon Pirie originally wrote it (it's a short read), and Dr. John
> Gilbody had it on gordonpirie.com. I came across it when I first
> started running and I found it to be inspirational as Pirie was
> clearly a runner who was very confident and one who beat Zatopek. The
> original PDF file was in dire need of some beautification as well as
> formatting to make it more readable so I offered to fix it up and
> eventually I'll have the photos in the other PDF set up as a
> slideshow, along with a small discussion forum for the book.
>
> I found the section of footwear to be especially interesting, again
> someone (Pirie) who advocated minimalist footwear as being fundamental
> to running properly and efficiently.
I read this a few years ago and switched from normal training shoes to
lightweight flats for virtually all my running (except muddy off-road
stuff). I've never looked back - flats are cheaper, much more
comfortable and I've been more or less injury-free ever since. I'm
52, 5' 10" and weigh 10st 9lb (149lb). YMMV.
(Another) Edward
rob
> On Nov 6, 10:41�pm, Edward Edmonds <edward.edmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thought I'd share this with ya'll:
>>
>> http://edwardedmonds.com/pirie/
>
> I read this a few years ago and switched from normal training shoes to
> lightweight flats for virtually all my running (except muddy off-road
> stuff). I've never looked back - flats are cheaper, much more
> comfortable and I've been more or less injury-free ever since. I'm
> 52, 5' 10" and weigh 10st 9lb (149lb). YMMV.
Any specific lightweight flats you can recommend? I'm very interested in
the idea and will need some new shoes soon, but I'm not sure what to go
for. My local running shop is no help. I knew a guy in his 60s who did a
lot of miles injury free and ran in something like this:
I'm not sure I can bring myself to go that basic, particularly when running
with others. But I rapidly seem to get back in to expensive stuff when I
look for anything else.
--
rob
EDWARD EDMONDS
You'll be hard pressed to find a modern flat that cheap. Most flats
these days from any major shoe company are going to be $80+.
Today I recorded a video on some things to look for in flats,
particularly midsole flexibility, I show several different flats I've
worn; while the video doesn't focus on one particular flat, you should
be able to get an idea of what to look for.
If you don't feel like me ramble on about midsole flexibility then here
are a few to consider:
Adidas adiZero PR
Mizuno Wave Universe 2 or 3
Adidas adiZero Pro
New Balance RC152
Asics Piranha SP2
I will post the link to the video once it's finished uploading to the web.
Edward
John Hurley
snip
> > I'm not sure I can bring myself to go that basic, particularly when running
> > with others. But I rapidly seem to get back in to expensive stuff when I
> > look for anything else.
...
> If you don't feel like me ramble on about midsole flexibility then here
> are a few to consider:
>
> Adidas adiZero PR
> Mizuno Wave Universe 2 or 3
> Adidas adiZero Pro
> New Balance RC152
> Asics Piranha SP2
The Nike Lunaracers should not be left out. The best of the racing
flats that I have ever had.
They are relatively new and not as well known as they should be imho.
Have you tried running in them Edward?
Anthony
"EDWARD EDMONDS" <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:hdcufr$71f$1...@adenine.netfront.net...
>> If you don't feel like me ramble on about midsole flexibility then here
> are a few to consider:
>
> Adidas adiZero PR
> Mizuno Wave Universe 2 or 3
> Adidas adiZero Pro
> New Balance RC152
> Asics Piranha SP2
I run mostly in Saucony Fastwitch
Anthony.
Edward Edmonds
> On 11/10/2009 6:00 PM, rob wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:22:13 -0800 (PST), Edward wrote:
>
> >> On Nov 6, 10:41 pm, Edward Edmonds<edward.edmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Thought I'd share this with ya'll:
>
> >>>http://edwardedmonds.com/pirie/
>
> >> I read this a few years ago and switched from normal training shoes to
> >> lightweight flats for virtually all my running (except muddy off-road
> >> stuff). I've never looked back - flats are cheaper, much more
> >> comfortable and I've been more or less injury-free ever since. I'm
> >> 52, 5' 10" and weigh 10st 9lb (149lb). YMMV.
>
> > Any specific lightweight flats you can recommend? I'm very interested in
> > the idea and will need some new shoes soon, but I'm not sure what to go
> > for. My local running shop is no help. I knew a guy in his 60s who did a
> > lot of miles injury free and ran in something like this:
>
>
> > I'm not sure I can bring myself to go that basic, particularly when running
> > with others. But I rapidly seem to get back in to expensive stuff when I
> > look for anything else.
>
> You'll be hard pressed to find a modern flat that cheap. Most flats
> these days from any major shoe company are going to be $80+.
>
> Today I recorded a video on some things to look for in flats,
> particularly midsole flexibility, I show several different flats I've
> worn; while the video doesn't focus on one particular flat, you should
> be able to get an idea of what to look for.
>
> If you don't feel like me ramble on about midsole flexibility then here
> are a few to consider:
>
> Adidas adiZero PR
> Mizuno Wave Universe 2 or 3
> Adidas adiZero Pro
> New Balance RC152
> Asics Piranha SP2
>
> I will post the link to the video once it's finished uploading to the web.
>
> Edward
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pktAebUTdSY
I have a tendency to ramble, but hopefully you get the main point that
flexibility is key and that just because a shoe is advertised or
marketed as a flat doesn't always qualify it as a flat in reality.
Edward
pithydoug
What? Now E**2, you are not suggesting that shoe companies would tell
quasi fibs to promote a product? I took Viagra for 6 months and still
could not throw the football through the tire hanging from the branch.
A stalking horse?" :) :)
-D
John Hurley
snip
> What? Now E**2, you are not suggesting that shoe companies would tell
> quasi fibs to promote a product? I took Viagra for 6 months and still
> could not throw the football through the tire hanging from the branch.
> A stalking horse?" :) :)
I like the E**2 monikor or maybe just ee ... maybe we would all be
posting youtube videos if we looked like him eh?
Charlie maybe you should get in the game here we only have i2's to
backup the idea that you provide the ladies some eye candy!
I did not see much of the video and had the sound off apparently the
first 20 seconds ... so Doug you lost me on the stalking horse
reference.
I2Run
|Charlie maybe you should get in the game here we only have i2's to
|backup the idea that you provide the ladies some eye candy!
I am sorry not having noticed CPs good looks as my eyes were glued
on his Ivy educated slim gorgeous young neighbor, she is fast too.
Charlie Pendejo
>> Charlie maybe you should get in the game here we only have i2's to
>> backup the idea that you provide the ladies some eye candy!
Just because I could be mistaken for a Hollywood start doesn't mean
I'm gonna make movies. For one thing, I'm too busy fending off
wimminz. A group of post-happy-hour gals rather loudly appreciated my
legs on an evening run home from Manhattan last night. Whadda they
think I am, the insensitive brutes, some kinda piece of meat??
I2:
> I am sorry not having noticed CPs good looks as my eyes were glued
> on his Ivy educated slim gorgeous young neighbor, she is fast too.
Understandable. But since I was already acclimated to her, I'm able
to reiterate that I2 is one handsome devil. So are Dan, Anthony, and
steve common. They're all more or less in my league, which is
admittedly something of a minor league compared to legendary
wreck.running alumnus Sir Lancelot Smith.
Double Ed looks to have an unfair advantage: youth. Did someone
forget to card him on the way into this dive?
I2, come run the Reggae Marathon in Negril, Jamaica, first weekend of
Dec if you wanna see more of my training partner. :-)
Edward
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:22:13 -0800 (PST), Edward wrote:
> > On Nov 6, 10:41 pm, Edward Edmonds <edward.edmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Thought I'd share this with ya'll:
>
> >>http://edwardedmonds.com/pirie/
>
> > I read this a few years ago and switched from normal training shoes to
> > lightweight flats for virtually all my running (except muddy off-road
> > stuff). I've never looked back - flats are cheaper, much more
> > comfortable and I've been more or less injury-free ever since. I'm
> > 52, 5' 10" and weigh 10st 9lb (149lb). YMMV.
>
> Any specific lightweight flats you can recommend? I'm very interested in
> the idea and will need some new shoes soon, but I'm not sure what to go
> for. My local running shop is no help. I knew a guy in his 60s who did a
> lot of miles injury free and ran in something like this:
>
>
> I'm not sure I can bring myself to go that basic, particularly when running
> with others. But I rapidly seem to get back in to expensive stuff when I
> look for anything else.
I use Nike Mayfly - they're dirt cheap (under 20 UKP), last for ages
(don't believe the rubbish about 100k - my current pair have done 300
miles and counting). I tend to buy last year's models on-line, so
they're generally end of the line (Acics Gel Hyperspeed are also in my
kit bag - they're pretty good). However, I did treat myself recently
to some Adidas adiZero Manos, and they are just the best shoes I've
run in for a very long time. Pure delight. I'm eyeing a pair of
Adidas adiZero Adios - a friend runs in them and he says they're
superb.
Edward
John Hurley
wrote:
snip
Ok ... I had that one backward ... you noted that i2 was a stud
muffin ... I thought it was the other way around ... my bad.
I have had a bunch of women tell me that they think bald guys are sexy
but well you know a lot of women lie at times.
I2Run
> I2, come run the Reggae Marathon in Negril, Jamaica, first weekend of
> Dec if you wanna see more of my training partner. :-)
neighborhood, planning on running Tucson HM to get the NYCMQ
out of the way. Hope I won't slack off too much by then.
JBH:
|Ok ... I had that one backward ... you noted that i2 was a stud
|muffin ... I thought it was the other way around ... my bad.
IIRC, CP had mentioned me to be second best looking dude,
so you can guess who would be the best. From a little of what
I saw of him when my eyes glanced off his partner for a second
or so, he is not bad and can be on the Tube.
|I have had a bunch of women tell me that they think bald guys are sexy
|but well you know a lot of women lie at times.
Do they lie (at times) about the short guys too?
Michelle
"I2Run" <no_i2r...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I am sorry not having noticed CPs good looks as my eyes were glued
> on his Ivy educated slim gorgeous young neighbor, she is fast too.
Pictures?
--
26.2 Because I can
Edward Edmonds
Yeah, I'm about 27, my Dad is 50, but most people still peg him in the
low 30's, we Okinawans tend to age well a live long.
And now for some trivia:
There is a difference between Okinawans and regular old Japanese both
looks wise and health wise. If you ever meet a native Okinawan and
you call them Japanese, you'll quickly be corrected. Okinawans
traditionally tend to be healthier and also more Western looking.
Meeko
Bart Mathias
A lot of them look like uchinan people. The kind that eat hachibu.
steve common
>legendary
>wreck.running alumnus Sir Lancelot Smith.
Any news of the black Marlon Brando ?