Training Decade ending Dec 31, 2009
rick++
What do you plan to accomplish in the next decade of running?
bgl
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> So what did you accomplish in the past decade of running?
Got going.
> What do you plan to accomplish in the next decade of running?
Keep going.
bj
Doug Freese
"bgl" <bjon...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Same here but add - slow the slowing down.
-D
Brew1
> So what did you accomplish in the past decade of running?
> What do you plan to accomplish in the next decade of running?
After a 17 year layoff (had given up, struggling with compartment
syndrome), got back into running in the fall of 2003, completed
marathons in 2005, 2007, 2009; no p.r.'s and been getting slower the
last four years but staying fairly healthy. New age group this coming
year will be as competitive as the present one so my goal will be to
find really small races that offer lots of hardware. ;-)
Anthony
> So what did you accomplish in the past decade of running?
Lots of PRs :-)
The main benefits are fitness and general health.
Side benefits are sense of accomplishment and new focus.
As a person who always loved and followed sport, it has enabled
me to return to my youth when more than I read/ watched sport
I was out there playing - I'm back out there playing.
> What do you plan to accomplish in the next decade of running?
More of the above. Although since it will be basically the 50-60
decade for me the PRs could be a bit challenging...will just have to
keep reaching new ultra distances instead...
Anthony.
Jerusalem, Israel.
John Hurley
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> So what did you accomplish in the past decade of running?
> What do you plan to accomplish in the next decade of running?
Just another decade of running mostly.
Recently I did start racing some again after a long layoff. Still
paying a bad time penalty for taking so many years off from racing.
I like to try to be competitive when racing ( varies by and if how
many real fast people do show up for any given event ) so goal for
next decade is to finish in the top 5 or 10 percent of as many races
as I can.
How about you what are your goals?
Ed Prochak
This last decade saw me still trying. However, I let worldly concerns
butt in and reduce my attempts. I met the goal of still running, but
failed to make any other goals that stand out on a decade level IMO.
The decade saw me put on about 40pounds (at the peak) and slow to
where I could no longer count miles by time (I used to measure
10minute miles on the assumption I held that pace or faster for even
LSD runs). But even with all that I have kept going.
This decade also saw the slowdown of my running neighbor/friend Don.
He still tries to go around the neighborhood, but nowadays his wife
can keep up with him just while walking. Don's running career spanned
over 50years. I want to keep running that long or longer.
Goals for this Decade? Well actually it may take a few years, but I
want to get back to marathon distances. It will begin with at least
one half marathon in 2010. Hopefully by the end of this decade, I will
be able to retire and devote more time to training and running, maybe
even getting a few trophies. My weight will have to come back down.
I'll try to get more out of town races too.
If nothing else though, I hope to still be running and posting in
2020. Hope to see you all then!
Enjoy the run.
Ed
D Stumpus
I started racing again after a 15 year layoff. I was shocked at how much
I'd slowed down between age 34 and 49 :)
> What do you plan to accomplish in the next decade of running?
Try and maintain my age-adjusted running prowess at 78-80 AG%
Lessons learned:
1) I had about 4 years of ruined ultras due to my cramping problem. I'd
cramp if it was warm, usually after 3 hours. I asked everyone, read
everything, and all I got was a bunch of suggestions to try various minerals
and pills. Nothing worked.
It was frustrating to give 20-30 minutes away in so many races. In one
ultra I was in solid 2nd place, and had plenty of power until I was slowed
to a painful walk/jog at 20 miles by cramps.
Eventually, a good friend (and sub 24 hour runner at Angeles Crest, a very
tough 100 miler) saw me after a finish and said, "Dan, you are severely
dehydrated". That got me to figure out that I could drink 20-25 oz of water
along with an S-cap when I started cramping. That cured them within 2
minutes. Problem solved.
3 or 4 years later, the scientific research caught up with what I'd learned,
and some stuff was published on the "instant cure" for cramping.
2) I had gradually gravitated to heavier shoes -- with orthotics, mine
weighed 20 oz each!
After running a marathon, I discovered racing flats (which I used to train
in when younger), and got an immediate 4.5% speed improvement (that's about
10 minutes in a marathon). I improved my 10k at a mountain race by 3
minutes, for example. That was another handicap I ran with for about 5
years.
3) I had a lot of kneecap pain on downhills for over a year. Icing helped,
but it was a constant problem. Eventually I discovered that I had "Jumper's
knee", and a simple quad stretch done every day or two made the problem
disappear.
4) I had a troublesome tendon pain in the back of my knee. When it acted
up occasionally, I couldn't even run. In a 50 miler, it caused me a lot of
pain over about 20 miles. It was caused by my running in the super heavy
20oz shoes. The problem vanished when I switched to lighter shoes.
Lord knows how much I'll learn over the next decade ... :)
Tony S.
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> So what did you accomplish in the past decade of running?
Got more into running, though I've been running as a part of cross
training for over 25 years. In the past decade I explored the longer
distances a bit. I've run several ultras, and I've done the escarpment
trail run the last 5 years. Notwithstanding that more or different
training might improve my ultra performance somewhat, I decided that I
probably will never run farther than 50k again, but 50k seems within
range. The longer stuff takes too long to recover from, at least for me.
I more fully tested my running capabilities in the last decade.
> What do you plan to accomplish in the next decade of running?
I hope running will remain a passion, and a part of my multisport mix. I
still would like to run some 50ks and more escarpment trails. I hope
that I have some great training and amazing runs and races.
-Tony
Charlie Pendejo
> So what did you accomplish in the past decade of running?
As with bgl - got going.
Also quit smoking. Countless times in fact. More than once in '09.
Second half of this year, became a morning person (or a passable
forgery anyway) after more than four decades of night owldom. Can't
imagine making that transition without early morning running partners.
> What do you plan to accomplish in the next decade of running?
Keep going. Don't soil the new decade with smoking.
Racing-wise, I hope to rewrite my PRs at everything from 5k to 42k in
the first year or two of the decade. Maybe I can improve enough to
contend for AG prizes in the bigger local races.
But "keep going" is considerably more important - the daily running is
really the key for me; the training toward goals and actual racing is
the icing on the gravy. (And of course it's also part of the
motivation for the daily running...)
Doug Freese
"Ed Prochak" <edpr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 31, 7:45 am, John Hurley <johnbhur...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I thought a littlemore about this on my run today.
> > So what did you accomplish in the past decade of running?
Personally, I ran the entire ten with hardly a problem doing all the
races that I wanted to do. What was most pleasing, was helping through
mentoring, dozens of runners, noting their goals and keeping them injury
free.
> > What do you plan to accomplish in the next decade of running?
Do what I can race wise and continue to put back what I can into the
running community.
-D
Dot
> So what did you accomplish in the past decade of running?
Started "structured" running program. (loose use of term, but to be
distinguished from just jogging about 20-30min after work for
relaxation) March 2, 2001, was my first logged run. Dec 31, 2009, was
about #1440 (of things I classed as "Run" or "Snowshoe" - doesn't
include some misc categories)
Then got into trail running.
Then got into trail volunteering.
Then retired, since there wasn't any time left to work.;)
> What do you plan to accomplish in the next decade of running?
Continue running, exploring new trails, and volunteering.
Dot
rick++
This was the "decade of injury" for me.
After about third century with injuries lasting less than a week,
I had four injuries lasting some time:
- bad auto accident whiplash and trauamtic heart damage 2003 (three
months off)
- ACL strain/tear 2004 (one month off, stablizing shoes)
- collapsed left arch 2007 (last six months, orthonics)
- perisstent ITB irritation 2008-2009
Hoping to stay injury free.
Your shoe needs can change over the decades.
rms
Thanks for the list. I think all of these apply to me, on a smaller
scale. Immediately after switching to the NB MT100 lighter-weight
more-neutral shoes a couple weeks ago, nagging leg muscle pain is pretty
much gone, and I suspect the ITB inflammation that's struck midway into my
few races will disappear as well.
The tradeoff is that my arches are working more, and start getting sore
after 6miles. But my feet are already stronger, and I just generally feel
better. I would hope this minimalist movement is a wakeup call to shoe
companies.
rms
marko
> So what did you accomplish in the past decade of running?
Started running @ 36 with 20 years without sport apart from walking and
hiking;
Yearly distances and PRs :
2001 ++++++ 587 km (1h32 HM)
2002 ++++++++++++++++++ 1760 km (3h19 marathon)
2003 +++++++++++++++++++++++++ 2400 km
2004 ++++++++++++++++++++++ 2169 km (3h04 marathon)
2005 +++++++++++++++++++++++++ 2463 km (36:58 10km)
2006 ++++++++++++++++++++ 1944 km (2h58 marathon, 1h23 HM)
2007 +++++++++++ 1034 km
2008 ++++++++++++++ 1332 km
2009 +++++++++ 852 km (+ 3160km cycling and 46km swimming)
> What do you plan to accomplish in the next decade of running?
get back to my sub-3 form, race some triathlons as well.
m
Daniel
>So what did you accomplish in the past decade of running?
>What do you plan to accomplish in the next decade of running?
After being shocked by my mother's sudden heart-attack death in 2000, I started
and stopped various "self-improvement" kicks (all short-lived).
At end of 2003, quit tobacco use. Also had thorough medical checkup including
EKG.
Started "jogging" for heart health and weight loss in January 2004, caught a
headcold and quit.
Found the "Couch to 5K" program and rec.running, and began to think of myself as
a runner. Finished a 5K in June 2004 (slower than my slow training runs are
now) and lost 20 lbs. (from 155 to 135 or so, but a few of those seem to have
come back to linger over the last year) -- I'm 5'7" and small frame so that was
significant weight for me.
And in spite of various difficulties and pitfalls (or pot-hole falls) I am
still a runner. Looking back over my Training Decade, the various metrics of
time and distance are not as important to me as the intangible qualities and
enjoyment.
The next decade? I'll be happy just to keep my mobility as long as possible.
--
Daniel ( deltae...@usa.net )
DC
> So what did you accomplish in the past decade of running?
> What do you plan to accomplish in the next decade of running?
"...
And then one day you find ten years have got behind you.
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun.
So you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it's sinking
Racing around to come up behind you again.
The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older,
Shorter of breath and one day closer to death.
..."
From Pink Floyd's "Time"
D Stumpus
"rms" <rsqui...@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote in message
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Glad you could relate to some of the stuff I went through.
Re the arch pain, I've found that adapts after 4+ days (provided it's
muscular fatigue -- there are a lot of little miscles in the foot proper).
Another little thing that might help plantar fascitis (too lazy to look up
the spelling), is stretching (don't laugh) your Toes. The toes are usually
in a scrunched up position when we run, and they get stuck in that position,
so it's good to stretch them, imo.
Anthony
against Marko in his format...
"marko" <ma...@nullepart.eu> wrote in message
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> rick++ a �crit :
>> So what did you accomplish in the past decade of running?
>
> Started running @ 36 with 20 years without sport apart from walking and
> hiking;
Started at 37...
>
> Yearly distances and PRs :
>
> 2001 ++++++ 587 km (1h32 HM)
> 2002 ++++++++++++++++++ 1760 km (3h19 marathon)
> 2003 +++++++++++++++++++++++++ 2400 km
> 2004 ++++++++++++++++++++++ 2169 km (3h04 marathon)
> 2005 +++++++++++++++++++++++++ 2463 km (36:58 10km)
> 2006 ++++++++++++++++++++ 1944 km (2h58 marathon, 1h23 HM)
> 2007 +++++++++++ 1034 km
> 2008 ++++++++++++++ 1332 km
> 2009 +++++++++ 852 km (+ 3160km cycling and 46km swimming)
2000 ++++++++++++ 1182km (1h36 HM)
2001 ++++++++++++++ 1407km (1h31 HM, 3h25 marathon)
2002 +++++++++++++++ 1525km (1h30 HM, 3h14 marathon)
2003 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 3272km (37:39 10km, 1h23 HM)
2004 +++++++++++++ 1298km (2h57 marathon)
2005 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 3643km (36:40 10km, 2h56 marathon)
2006 +++++++++++++++++ 1670km
2007 +++++++++++++++ 1473km
2008 ++++++++++++++++++++++ 2191km (60k ultra 5:40)
2009 ++++++++++++++++++++++++ 2360km (80k ultra 8:20)
Anthony.
Ed Prochak
> rick++ a écrit :
>
> > So what did you accomplish in the past decade of running?
>
> Started running @ 36 with 20 years without sport apart from walking and
> hiking;
Advice for newbies: Walking is a great inro to running!
John Hurley
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> Started running @ 36 with 20 years without sport apart from walking and
> hiking;
>
> Yearly distances and PRs :
>
> 2001 ++++++ 587 km (1h32 HM)
Wow ... this is surprising ...
You ran a low 1:30's half marathon with only a year ( or less ) of
training and like 360 miles of preparation? ( An average of 7 miiles
a week maybe )?
Sorry this just does not make a lot of sense to me. Either you have
some huge amount of natural athletic talent ( that's always possible
but pretty darn rare ) or you are vastly underplaying the "walking
and hiking" part ... or something else ...
Patrick
> So what did you accomplish in the past decade of running?
> What do you plan to accomplish in the next decade of running?
I'm 45. Eight years ago I had a heart problem caused by a virus or
something or another. Essentially it attacked the heart muscles. There
was talk of putting me on the transplant list if I didn't show
improvement from medications. I started taking the meds and walking. I
also started showing improvements. I started jogging short distances I
kept showing improvement. I kept on running, and kept on showing
improvements. My medications were lowered. My heart got back to normal
functioning about 3 years ago. My Doctor was pleased with my recovery
and happy with my running. He said it was great but I'd probably never
run the Boston Marathon.
Last week I did a 15 mile run. I wouldn't mind walking into his office
in a few years and showing him whatever it is you get when you finish
the Boston Marathon.
Patrick
marko
> On Jan 4, 4:13 am, marko <ma...@nullepart.eu> wrote:
>
> snip
>
>> Started running @ 36 with 20 years without sport apart from walking and
>> hiking;
>>
>> Yearly distances and PRs :
>>
>> 2001 ++++++ 587 km (1h32 HM)
>
> Wow ... this is surprising ...
>
> You ran a low 1:30's half marathon with only a year ( or less ) of
> training and like 360 miles of preparation? ( An average of 7 miiles
> a week maybe )?
here is my first year of running starting week 16 :
+++ 5 km
++++++ 12 km
0 km
+++++ 10 km
+++++++++++++ 26 km
++++++++++++++ 27 km
0 km
++++++ 12 km
++++++++++++++++ 31 km
+++++++++ 17 km
+++++++++ 17 km (was injured, wore othotics from now on)
0 km
0 km
0 km
0 km
0 km
0 km
+++++ 10 km
++++++++++++ 23 km
+++++++++ 17 km
++++++++++++++++ 32 km
+++ 26 km (1st race ever HM in 1h45)
++++++++ 15 km
+++++++++++ 22 km
++++++++++++++++ 31 km
++++++++++++++++++ 36 km
+++++++++++++++++ 34 km
+++++++++++++++++++++ 42 km
+++++++++++++++++ 33 km
+++ 26 km (2nd race HM in 1h32)
++++ 7 km
+++++++ 14 km
++++++++++++ 24 km
++++++++ 15 km
++++ 8 km
+++ 6 km
0 km
and then in march 3 months later, with much more mileage (ie 45kmpw) I
ran 1h31 :-(
> Sorry this just does not make a lot of sense to me. Either you have
> some huge amount of natural athletic talent ( that's always possible
> but pretty darn rare ) or you are vastly underplaying the "walking
> and hiking" part ... or something else ...
well, it might be both : some talent, and a lot of hiking? OTOH I only
hiked on vacations, so...
But I was really motivated and as you see, it took some time to get
under 1h25 (ie nov. '03) and yes, I always raced on low mileage, and
almost no speedwork. I know I'm way too lazy, even though I really enjoy
running. I'm more a fartlek and brisk runs kind of type than intervals...
m
marko
> Well - Charlie was imagining myself and Anders - here is how I line-up
> against Marko in his format...
Very interesting! We started more or less at the same time to get more
or less the same results. Yours being on the better side, and it's self
evident that the main reason is higher mileage.
In my other response to John I said how it went harder to get below
1h25, but it's so true that every minute and even seconds can only be
shaved through more and more training, talent or not.
One other thing, is that I wouldn't be able to run the ultras you've
run, the marathon seeming to be a frontier for me.
But it's really nice to see the comparison in the same format. I guess
it wasn't that easy to find out how to make it?
m
marko
> Advice for newbies: Walking is a great inro to running!
just think about the pedestrians!
I think that Paavo Nurmi was also a great walker (Anders will correct me
if I'm writing something silly here!)
m
Ed Prochak
> Ed Prochak a écrit :
>
> > Advice for newbies: Walking is a great inro to running!
>
> just think about the pedestrians!
Sometimes as I pass them on my run, I say: just keep moving. As long
as we're moving, we're not dead yet!
ed