What is a Hyper Coaster???
Jeff Schade
I know that this is probably a dumb question, but could somebody please tell
me what exactly is a "hypercoaster"? Thanks.
Locoboy
Wow, you don't know what you've started with that simple question.
:-)
sfotbrandon
it would be a giga right?). It is highly debated whether or not a hyper coaster
should include coasters 200 feet or taller with inversions.
Conner Purcell
>Hi,
>
>I know that this is probably a dumb question, but could somebody please tell
>me what exactly is a "hypercoaster"? Thanks.
A "hypercoaster" was a term made up by someone when describing Magnum at Cedar
Point several years ago (I believe).
Today, every enthusiast has a different definition. Most people agree it should
be 200+ feet tall. Most also agree it shouldn't have any inversions and should
have lapbars.
Still, some people think Steel Eel (150 feet) is a hyper coaster, and Manhattan
Express (2 inversions) is one, too. Hell, some even consider Steel Phantom one.
It isn't 200 feet tall, but has a 225 foot drop, and to further the
controversy, 4 inversions and OTSR's.
My personal opinion is that a hypercoaster should be 200+ feet with no
inversions.
As for "Giga," that was something Cedar Point made up for Millennium Force (it
being 300 feet). It hasn't quite materialized, yet. I'm not sure whether I like
the term or not.
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Conner Purcell <vxvco...@aol.comvXvXvXv> wrote in message
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> As for "Giga," that was something Cedar Point made up for Millennium Force
(it
> being 300 feet). It hasn't quite materialized, yet. I'm not sure whether I
like
> the term or not.
Actually, Cedar Point did not make up the "Giga" name. This was done by
Intamin. Intamin markets this new coaster (and future 300 foot versions) as
the Giga Coaster. On the side of the Millennium Force trains, there is a
small plaque with the Intamin logo on it, and the words, " Giga Coaster"
below the logo.
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Dan MacKellar
deciding this (just for my own mind of course)
Hypercoaster: A full circut Steel Roller Coaster with no inversions and
a lift hill and/or drop exceeding 200' - IE Magnum at Cedar Point
Hyper-Looper: A full circut steel roller coaster with inversions and a
drop and/or lift exceeding 200' - IE Steel Phantom (RIP)
Megacoaster: A full circut steel roller coaster with no inversions and
a lift and/or drop exceeding 100' but under 200' - IE Steel Eel
Megalooper: A full circut steel roller coaster with inversions and a
lift and/or drop exceeding 100' but under 200' - IE Viper at SFMM
GigaCoaster: A full circut Steel Roller coaster without inversions
and a lift and/or drop exceeding 300' - IE Millennium Force
Confused yet?? Now with SOB, we have another one to debate,
the Hyperwoodie. I offer the following for this...
Megawoodie: Any wooden roller coaster with a lift height and/or
drop exceeding 100' but under 200'
Hyperwoodie: A wooden roller coaster with no inversions and
a lift and/or drop exceeding 200'
Hyper-looping woodie: A wooden roller coaster with inversions
and a lift and/or drop exceeding 200'
The last two may be grouped together for the time being, because
there's only on example. This is just how I categorize them. Others
do it differently, and it's an endless debate just like "Is S:TE a roller
coaster?" but we won't even go there... ;P
Regards,
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Jeff Schade wrote in message <38e9...@news.integrityonline.com>...
Wolf
> deciding this (just for my own mind of course)
>
> Hypercoaster: A full circut Steel Roller Coaster with no inversions and
> a lift hill and/or drop exceeding 200' - IE Magnum at Cedar Point
>
> Hyper-Looper: A full circut steel roller coaster with inversions and a
> drop and/or lift exceeding 200' - IE Steel Phantom (RIP)
>
> Megacoaster: A full circut steel roller coaster with no inversions and
> a lift and/or drop exceeding 100' but under 200' - IE Steel Eel
> Megalooper: A full circut steel roller coaster with inversions and a
> lift and/or drop exceeding 100' but under 200' - IE Viper at SFMM
>
> GigaCoaster: A full circut Steel Roller coaster without inversions
> and a lift and/or drop exceeding 300' - IE Millennium Force
>
> Confused yet?? Now with SOB, we have another one to debate,
> the Hyperwoodie. I offer the following for this...
>
> Megawoodie: Any wooden roller coaster with a lift height and/or
> drop exceeding 100' but under 200'
>
> Hyperwoodie: A wooden roller coaster with no inversions and
> a lift and/or drop exceeding 200'
>
> Hyper-looping woodie: A wooden roller coaster with inversions
> and a lift and/or drop exceeding 200'
>
> The last two may be grouped together for the time being, because
> there's only on example. This is just how I categorize them. Others
> do it differently, and it's an endless debate just like "Is S:TE a roller
> coaster?" but we won't even go there... ;P
Sham: An over-sized flatride or freefall masquerading as a coaster for
purposes of count and park ego. Example, S:TE, Astroworld in general.
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YELLOWLARK
>> a lift and/or drop exceeding 100' but under 200' - IE Steel Eel
No, the S: RoS coasters are already labeled megacoasters by intamin, and
they're all over 200ft
rab...@juno.com
rollercoaster that should be at least 4000 feet long (but length isn't
usually a major part of the debate), have a lift and/or drop of 200 or
more feet, and have zero inversions.
The lift or drop can be 200 or more feet. For example, Magnum
has a 205 ft lift, but a 195 ft drop, whereas Apollo's Chariot has a
170 ft lift and a 210 ft drop--and they are generally both considered
hypercoasters.
Yes, the term "giga coaster" is used by Intamin. If you visit
their website (www.intaminworldwide.com), you could see a picture of
SFDL's SROS, and below it see the words "mega/giga coaster." Intamin
seems to consider their SROS-type "hypercoasters" as "mega coasters"
and their 300+ ft tall, Millenium Force-type coasters as "giga
coasters." Basically what I call a hypercoaster is what I wrote above.
But if SFA's SROS turned out to be 195 ft tall instead of 200, I'd
probably still consider it a hypercoaster, also considering the type fo
ride it is.
Ben
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WRAYTH UZ
>
>I know that this is probably a dumb question, but could somebody please tell
>me what exactly is a "hypercoaster"? Thanks.
>
Most people define hyper by a statistic. Height of lift, height of drop. I
prefer for me own opinion to use it to describe a ride experience.
For example: If you go by height of ride, then Manhatten Express and Magnum
are both hypers, yet 2 different experiences. If you go by drop height, then
Magnum and Alpengeist are in the same for there identical height in drops, but
yet, totally different ride and neither is a hyper for the lack of 200ft drop.
I prefer to look at the experince from Steel Eel and Steel Force to be close
and hypercoasters then I would call Manhatten Exrpess and Superman:Ride of
Steel hypercoasters.
So Hypercoaster examples for me are Steel Force, Apollo's Chariot, Steel Eel,
all three different stats, but the same airtime experience. Makes more sense
then saying Mamba, Manhatten Express and Superman:The Escape are Hyper
coasters.
I know this porbably won't help, and will cause more disagreement, but this is
how I feel on this matter, it is just my opinion
Alan Smith
RSteven850
<irish...@columbus.rr.com> writes:
>
> Actually, Cedar Point did not make up the "Giga" name. This was done by
>Intamin. Intamin markets this new coaster (and future 300 foot versions) as
>the Giga Coaster. On the side of the Millennium Force trains, there is a
>small plaque with the Intamin logo on it, and the words, " Giga Coaster"
>below the logo.
>
Considering Intamin calls S:ROS a Mega coaster, that makes sense.
Roz
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Ted Ansley
>>i,
>>
>>I know that this is probably a dumb question, but could somebody please tell
>>me what exactly is a "hypercoaster"? Thanks.
>>
>
>Most people define hyper by a statistic. Height of lift, height of drop. I
>prefer for me own opinion to use it to describe a ride experience.
>
>For example: If you go by height of ride, then Manhatten Express and Magnum
>are both hypers, yet 2 different experiences. If you go by drop height, then
>Magnum and Alpengeist are in the same for there identical height in drops, but
>yet, totally different ride and neither is a hyper for the lack of 200ft drop.
Alpengeist's drop is only 170 feet, Magnum's is 195 feet. That is a big
difference IMHO.
>I prefer to look at the experince from Steel Eel and Steel Force to be close
>and hypercoasters then I would call Manhatten Exrpess and Superman:Ride of
>Steel hypercoasters.
>
>So Hypercoaster examples for me are Steel Force, Apollo's Chariot, Steel Eel,
>all three different stats, but the same airtime experience. Makes more sense
>then saying Mamba, Manhatten Express and Superman:The Escape are Hyper
>coasters.
>
>I know this porbably won't help, and will cause more disagreement, but this is
>how I feel on this matter, it is just my opinion
>
>Alan Smith
Ted Ansley
**Rollercoaster Fan<atic>**
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Wolf
> >difference IMHO.
>
of
> explaining again, just substitue Oblivion for Alpengeist. It has a similar
drop
> height and still makes my point.
I thought Oblivion was around 160ft.
WRAYTH UZ
>difference IMHO.
Yes, youare right. I got myself confused in the explanation, but instead of
explaining again, just substitue Oblivion for Alpengeist. It has a similar drop
height and still makes my point.
Alan Smith
Batwave
>me what exactly is a "hypercoaster"? Thanks.
>
It's a coaster that has too much sugar.