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Friday is here! Yay! So here's some fun TPR stuff to check out
instead of doing work on this wonderful Friday.

Fuji-Q Highland Photo Update and a new TPR Video!
http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=686968#686968

Robb & Ryan go to...Delorean? BTTF fans rejoice!
http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48573

Reed and Stacey check out Gatorland!
http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48510

Dave aka Meteornotes has some fun in Orlando:
http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48575

Some recent "Rip Ride Rockit" construction photos from Universal
Orlando:
http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=685375#685375

PackFanLV shares Asia park photos from his trip around the world.
Check out parks in China, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand, and more!
http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43466

An off-season trip report from Rye Playland:
http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48540

Travel back in time with Shane's Amusement Attic and ride coasters
like Atom Smasher, the original Revolution and The Beast:
http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=685878#685878

A sneak preview at our new "TPR TV" Video Section:
(with over 1,000 videos to browse through!)
http://www.themeparkreview.com/tprtv/

If you are interested in a 2009 TPR trip, contact us ASAP! We have
very few spots open so let us know if you want to join us! Trip
details:
http://www.themeparkreview.com/trips/

And don't forget that TPR Hoodies are on sale for $20 each and DVDs
are still only $10 each. Order them now!
http://www.themeparkreview.com/store/

Thanks again to everyone for your support!

--Robb Alvey
http://www.themeparkreview.com

Rollermonkey

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Jan 16, 2009, 10:53:09 PM1/16/09
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> --Robb Alveyhttp://www.themeparkreview.com

Obviously you have no intention of communicating in any way with me,
but you'll spam my e-mail address until I die.

Chris

Theme Park Review

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You may unsubscribe here:

http://www.themeparkreview.com/lists/?p=unsubscribe

--Robb

Rollermonkey

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Jan 17, 2009, 12:23:08 AM1/17/09
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And you've sent me that link before. Unless you changed it so that I
don't have to log into TPR to unsubscribe, that isn't going to cut it.
You've locked me out and banned my IP address, remember?

Theme Park Review

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Jan 17, 2009, 12:52:52 AM1/17/09
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Then email me the addresses you want removed which I've asked you to
do before and you've never done. I do not have any of your known
email addresses in the database. Every time we find one of your
multiple secret accounts, I remove the new email address from the
database.

Belson, just admit you thrive on creating drama. You really don't
want to be removed from the database because if you didn't keep
getting our emails you wouldn't be able to complain about getting the
emails.

Email me the list of addresses. I'll be happy to remove them. But I
know I will not be seeing that email from you.

--Robb Alvey
www.themeparkreview.com

Rollermonkey

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Jan 17, 2009, 2:10:07 AM1/17/09
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On Jan 16, 11:52 pm, Theme Park Review <robbal...@themeparkreview.com>
wrote:

I create drama?

Once again, I ask you: Why was I banned?

Simple question. You should be able to answer it straight.

I never did anything to deserve a ban, IMHO. So tell me what I did.
It's all I've ever asked.

OK, that, and to stop sending me TPR mail.
(My e-mail address is on the profile for my TPR account, so that
should take you all of 5 seconds to research.)

Chris

george

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Jan 17, 2009, 3:03:29 AM1/17/09
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I don't think you'll get very far using reason and logic Chris...

Profile of the Sociopath

Glibness and Superficial Charm

Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving
behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly
hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument
to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."


Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for
them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught
up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities.
Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.


Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their
core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets
and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and
accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means
and they let nothing stand in their way.


Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is
more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged
by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would
upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their
promises.


Incapacity for Love


Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are
normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.


Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only
contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage
of them.


Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and
approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as
creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful,
all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries,
no concern for their impact on others.


Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet
"gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends;
aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing,
etc.


Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or
indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame
themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously
committed.


Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all
sorts.


Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the
future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.


Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story
readily.

I count easily 13 out of 15 that I have personally witnessed.

BaSSiStiSt

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Jan 17, 2009, 11:54:35 AM1/17/09
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"george" <dongarr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e57a0c38-e932-479e...@r41g2000prr.googlegroups.com...

Holy crap, I had like 14 of those things...

:-)

Theme Park Review

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Jan 17, 2009, 12:56:37 PM1/17/09
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On Jan 16, 11:10 pm, Rollermonkey <christopher.bel...@navy.mil> wrote:
> OK, that, and to stop sending me TPR mail.
> (My e-mail address is on the profile for my TPR account, so that
> should take you all of 5 seconds to research.)

Belson, those email addresses have been removed from the database for
a long time. You know this because you're getting the emails through
the fake screen names you've made up that we haven't discovered yet.
I'll ask you again, send me an email with the emails you want to have
removed from the database and I'd be more than happy to remove them,
but I know that email will never arrive in my inbox.

Please stop stalking us.

--Robb Alvey
www.themeparkreview.com

george

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Jan 17, 2009, 8:42:00 PM1/17/09
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On Jan 17, 12:56 pm, Theme Park Review <robbal...@themeparkreview.com>
wrote:

> Please stop stalking us.
>
> --Robb Alveywww.themeparkreview.com


Hey Douchey McDouchehead. Speaking of sociopaths, lets discuss your
behavior, shall we?

Profile of the Sociopath

Glibness and Superficial Charm.

-On your website, and in person, you are known to be charming to many
people, only to get them on your side. As soon as they do something
you do not like, the superficial charm is off, and you ban them from
Red Dot City. It is always as such. "Come to my site and read my TPRs,
but even QUESTION me, you get kicked out." Ive seen it with my own
eyes.

Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving
behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are
covertly
hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument
to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

-Your teenage fanboy members are merely instruments to be used. While
you get them to go on trips, they are delegated to be in your crew,
which makes them want to buy and buy your merch and be a part of the
site. Again, when they do something which is not wrong and is
something you do not like, the instrument is tossed aside like an old
worn out guitar. This also applies to your former wive(s), your
children, who you used only to move on to the next. Check MySpace,
your own daughter wont even talk to you.


Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

-It seems to me its YOUR RIGHT to get ERT anywhere you want or to use
your camera anywhere you want, or to steal anywhere you want. Your
arrest record proves it, as does the fact you were thrown out of one
park for stealing, and banned from video usage at others.

Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible
for
them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught
up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities.
Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

-You lie all the time to anyone who is not part of your clique. You
give them reasons why you ban them, though those reasons are only a
front.


Incapacity for Love - Need we say more?

Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life
story
readily.

-Check the arrest record.

Im not going into the rest, it would take too long, and you simply
arent worth it.

Rollermonkey

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Jan 18, 2009, 12:03:33 AM1/18/09
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On Jan 17, 11:56 am, Theme Park Review <robbal...@themeparkreview.com>
wrote:

Sigh.
See, you still lie.

You say I'm only getting spammed at dummy accounts. That's a lie. My
primary personal e-mail account still recieves each and every piece of
mass e-mail that you send.

You say I'm stalking you?

What a laugh. After you banned me from TPR, I made a couple posts at
Coaster Fanatics, and within hours, you were on there bashing me on
their forum.

I joined WestCoaster, and you sent the moderators there personal e-
mails as to why I shouldn't be allowed to be a member of their forums.
Same thing at RideWorld.

So, really, who's stalking who?

I've never done anything to wrong you, in fact, I used to DEFEND you
when people told me how they disliked you. When I lived in Japan, you
asked me for trip planning advice and assistance in countless e-mails
(to the same address I'm trying to get you to stop spamming now, in
fact), if I could send you foodstuffs, and get you those Tokyo Disney
New Year's Eve Special Event Tickets, and I did all that and more.

All I ever wanted was decent treatment in response. Once I left Japan
and was no longer useful to you, though? I was dirt to you.

So obviously, you never liked me, and that's fine. It's the way that
you used me and my wife that made me realize what kind of person you
are and that all those people who warned me about you and bashed you
to me were right.

So, you know what?

With all the lies that you spread, all the bridges you burn and all
the people you mistreat, it's no wonder you've set yourself up in a
little castle. But someday, you're going to find yourself alone in
there.

People can toss out stuff about your ex-wives, and all your kids, your
criminal record all they want though, because it isn't slanderous, and
it isn't libelous, and you can't do anything about it, as long as it's
true.

My concience is clean.

Chris Belson

george

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Jan 18, 2009, 2:07:11 AM1/18/09
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Burn gravy.

Robb, I don't get why you won't stop being a hater and just talk to
us. We we're all friends with you at some point. It seems like all of
a sudden you got this "buisness" attitude like you had to cut ties for
your own protection or something.

None of us are out to get your buisness market share or customer
demographic or anything. We're not going to start competing websites
or tour groups. I don't get it why you gotta be internet tough guy all
the time.

I ate a dead body, I ain't proud of it. I told you all about it, and
you all applauded. We got problems, look, I'm haunted by a carnival. I
could run and tell a doctor but what for? I just put it on tape with a
fat beat and make a quick buck, I'm like fuck.

Anyway, we don't get to ask you stuff on TPR anymore, and we hear
stuff like how some peeps on your trip were stealing stuff from parks
and how Cedar Point refuses to give you ERT and access to stuff so we
gotta comment amongst ourselves. Since you are a buisness now instead
of a homie you are subject to critics and watchdogs and we are
entitled to broadcast that as most of us are (or we're) paying
consumers of yours.

I'm not stupid, I know what you want. You want a controlled media
outlet where you can ban critics and valid complaints by banning
people that disagree with you but still have inactive accounts so you
can brag about readership numbers to park PR people that don't know
any better. You can't have it both ways though dude.

Plus since you cut off communication with peeps we can't get your side
of storys we hear. We have all been in this hobby as long as you have
and we have park connections too. I get stories from PR peeps I've
known and stuff gets passed around amongst us. I'm really intrigued by
the whole Holiday World blackmail Tamar no seatbelt thing you are
supposedly involved with.

We're not stalking you dude, you have made yourself a very visible
personality in the hobby so we're going to follow what you're doing
just for the interest you generate.

I wish you'd just come back on the boards and open a dialog instead of
being all secret agent about everything, unless you really are a
sociopath and are sensitive about it or something.

-Diggity

JeffreyJ

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Jan 18, 2009, 11:26:05 PM1/18/09
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::popcorn::

goho...@yahoo.com

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Jan 19, 2009, 1:55:17 PM1/19/09
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The way I see things is the following:

1. Robb acts like Hitler.

2. Hitler was a tyrant.

3. Therefore, Robb is Hitler.

I like that logic.

GodsOnSafari

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Jan 19, 2009, 2:40:27 PM1/19/09
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Invoking Godwin's Law for the purpose of thread killing seems unfair.
I should check the Laws of the Intranetz about how that works.
Personally, I'm thinking less genocidal dictator, more televangelist
faith healer. I suppose to the televangelist's credit, they generally
admit to leaving the wife and kids like a scumbag and ask for
forgiveness instead of ever changing lies about what happened and
when.

Rollermonkey

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Jan 19, 2009, 3:10:06 PM1/19/09
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Like I keep telling you, Robert, my e-mail address is on my
Rollermonkey profile at your site. You've got my e-mail blocked, so I
cannot e-mail you. (I get the failure to deliver notice when I try.)

Honestly, I know that you don't care, because if you ever deleted me,
then all of the videos and PTRs I posted at his site would suddenly be
changed from Rollermonkey to Guest, like a lot of the threads/posts
that are made at other forums by people that have actually been
deleted.

So, it'd be obvious to others that something was up, and since nobody
can question the great Robert Lee Alvey Jr. or your actions...

You won't do it.

I still laugh that the TPR Terms Of Service claim that if you ever
post a picture or video there, that he owns it. Even YouTube,
PhotoBucket and Flickr never try to make such an outrageous claim.

Chris

mamoosh

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Jan 19, 2009, 3:33:02 PM1/19/09
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> I like that logic.

You may like it but it isn't correct.

Yours:
1. if A = B
2. and B = C
3. then A = B

Correct:
1. if A = B
2. and B = C
3. then A = C

Try this:

1. By constantly complaining about Robb you're acting like a skipping
CD.
2. Skipping Cds are annoying.
3....well, I'll let you complete the logic.

Message has been deleted

Theme Park Review

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Jan 19, 2009, 3:43:44 PM1/19/09
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http://www.youtube.com/t/terms
"...by submitting User Submissions to YouTube, you hereby grant
YouTube a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicenseable and
transferable license to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative
works of, display, and perform the User Submissions in connection with
the YouTube Website and YouTube's (and its successors' and
affiliates') business, including without limitation for promoting and
redistributing part or all of the YouTube Website (and derivative
works thereof) in any media formats and through any media channels."

http://photobucket.com/terms
"By displaying or publishing ("posting") any Content on or through the
Photobucket Services, you hereby grant to Photobucket and other users
a non-exclusive, fully paid and royalty-free, worldwide, limited
license to use, modify, delete from, add to, publicly perform,
publicly display, reproduce and translate such Content, including
without limitation distributing part or all of the Site in any media
formats through any media channels, except Content marked "private"
will not be distributed outside the Photobucket Services."

TPR's agreement is no different than either of these. Your email
address is not blocked. Your emails do not go into my SPAM folder.
You just simply refuse to email me.

--Robb Alvey
www.themeparkreview.com

ace

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Jan 19, 2009, 5:31:57 PM1/19/09
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I think of this picture when I see these things.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c71/spaceace12/thread_lol_973.jpg

Rollermonkey

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Jan 19, 2009, 6:31:39 PM1/19/09
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On Jan 19, 2:43 pm, Theme Park Review <robbal...@themeparkreview.com>
wrote:

Sorry, Robert, you've just been caught out. You claim in points 10 and
11 of your own TOS that anything anybody posts at TPR is CO-OWNED by
TPR. Neither of the TOS you've linked to makes that claim.

So, why did you ban me?

Right, you claIm that I'm not blocked. And if I post the delivery
failure e-mails, you'll just claim that I made them up/modified them.
That's why I'm trying to resolve this stuff in an open forum where you
don't have the ability to distort and delete whatever you don't like.

Chris

The following is copy/pasted straight from TPR's TOS with no changes.
I'd put the link, but NinjaProxy makes the URLs insane. It's the 4th
announcement in the Rollercoaster/Donkey thread at TPR if anyone wants
to look for themselves/doesn't trust me.

10. Uploading images - When you upload images, please keep them under
100k and no bigger than 800x600. All photos that have been uploaded to
TPR's server are co-owned by Theme Park Review and the member who has
uploaded the content. You hereby grant Theme Park Review a worldwide,
non-exclusive, royalty-free license and TPR reserves the right to use
your photos in updates, DVD releases, front page features, or any
other medium.

11. Uploading videos - All video uploads larger than 10 megs MUST go
in the "Professional Amateur Videographer" forum in the Members Only
area. These files MUST be zipped. If your file is less than 10 megs,
it can be uploaded in the public forums. All videos that have been
uploaded to TPR's server are co-owned by Theme Park Review and the
member who has uploaded the content. You hereby grant Theme Park
Review a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free license and TPR
reserves the right to use your videos in updates, DVD releases, front
page features, or any other medium.

Theme Park Review

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> page features, or any other medium.- Hide quoted text -

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Yes, our agreement is no different. The language may be different, but
the agreement is the same.

--Robb Alvey
www.themeparkreview.com

Rollermonkey

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On Jan 19, 6:01 pm, Theme Park Review <robbal...@themeparkreview.com>
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I'd say that claiming co-ownership, my original point, is a pretty
huge difference. Way to skim there, Robert.

Why did you ban me?

Chris

Theme Park Review

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On Jan 19, 4:04 pm, Rollermonkey <christopher.bel...@navy.mil> wrote:
> I'd say that claiming co-ownership, my original point, is a pretty
> huge difference. Way to skim there, Robert.
You're right. It's totally different. You win. Congrats. You're
awesome.

When the first person that comes to me with a problem with the
language in those two points of our TOS I'll be happy to change it.
So far, no one seems to care. Thank you for taking the time to bring
this information to my attention.

--Robb Alvey
www.themeparkreview.com

Rollermonkey

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Jan 19, 2009, 7:23:32 PM1/19/09
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On Jan 19, 6:16 pm, Theme Park Review <robbal...@themeparkreview.com>
wrote:

I have a problem with it. I guess that makes me the first person.

So, you think that you own my videos and pictures? Great.

Delete my account at TPR. No, I'm not giving the videos and pictures
to you. You can just 'co-own' them with Guest.

Tell me why I was banned, delete my account and stop spamming me, none
of it is that difficult, Robert.

For that matter, actually tell me that I've been banned. I only have
heard that I'm banned from TPR trips from people who went on later
ones. Never from you, though. Weird, huh?

Kind of like how you never were banned from ACE, huh? You just ran
away from Carole every time she tried to hand you the letter notifying
you, eh?

Chris

Theme Park Review

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Jan 19, 2009, 7:37:35 PM1/19/09
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On Jan 19, 4:23 pm, Rollermonkey <christopher.bel...@navy.mil> wrote:
> On Jan 19, 6:16 pm, Theme Park Review <robbal...@themeparkreview.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 19, 4:04 pm, Rollermonkey <christopher.bel...@navy.mil> wrote:> I'd say that claiming co-ownership, my original point, is a pretty
> > > huge difference. Way to skim there, Robert.
>
> > You're right.  It's totally different. You win.  Congrats.  You're
> > awesome.
>
> > When the first person that comes to me with a problem with the
> > language in those two points of our TOS I'll be happy to change it.
> > So far, no one seems to care.  Thank you for taking the time to bring
> > this information to my attention.
>
> > --Robb Alveywww.themeparkreview.com
>
> I have a problem with it. I guess that makes me the first person.
>
> So, you think that you own my videos and pictures? Great.
>
> Delete my account at TPR. No, I'm not giving the videos and pictures
> to you. You can just 'co-own' them with Guest.

I don't know why you are hung up on the word "co-own" regardless if
that word was including in the language, by posting the videos you
still granted Theme Park


Review a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free license and TPR
reserves the right to use your videos in updates, DVD releases, front
page features, or any other medium.

I'm not getting into any personal discussion of your TPR account on a
public forum. If you wish to discuss this with me, like I have said
many times already, please email me about it, however I know that
email will never arrive because if it did, you wouldn't have any
reason to complain about it on a public forum.

--Robb Alvey
www.themeparkreview.com

Rollermonkey

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Jan 19, 2009, 8:26:46 PM1/19/09
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On Jan 19, 6:37 pm, Theme Park Review <robbal...@themeparkreview.com>
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Except of course, I DID e-mail you about it, and all I got from you
was "grow a thicker skin." Your avoidance of that topic is comical.
I'm the banned one, if my conduct was illegal, and/or offensive, then
it's MY image that would be tarnished by bringing it up in public.
But, since everything I've been told thus far by third parties were
lies, that's YOUR reputation that would be tarnished if this was
discussed in a fair, impartial and open forum.

And we all know that you can't have that happening. Your family might
suffer! Well, at least the members that you currently acknowledge
exist. But that's as far down that ugly road I'll go.

On the other, less important topic, I suspect that choice of language,
co-ownership, would be very interesting to a copyright lawyer.

Unlike the 'entertainment' lawyer, whom you claim to be in contact
with.

Fair Use, what a laugh. The real reason you're making the TPRTV thing
is because you know it's just a matter of time before YouTube starts
muting or deleting your videos.

Any ways, once again, I ask you: Tell me why I was banned, delete my
account at TPR, and stop spamming me, and I'll ignore everything you
do.

It's SO easy! Why won't you do it?

Chris

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mainelycoasters

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Jan 19, 2009, 9:21:27 PM1/19/09
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On Jan 19, 7:16 pm, Theme Park Review <robbal...@themeparkreview.com>
wrote:

Well that's a lie if I ever heard one. After you banned me I asked
you
to remove my video from the contest entries and the site. You refused
to do that and claimed that by sending it in you had control over it
and rights to do what ever.

ace

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Jan 19, 2009, 10:21:43 PM1/19/09
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I was just sitting back enjoying this arguement, but found this part
of the 2008 video contest rules to be of interest to you.

"7. All submitted videos remain the copyright of the original
submitter, however, once a video is submitted it becomes property of
Theme Park Review
and Theme Park Review has the right to publish the videos on any
format (online, email, DVD, iPod, YouTube, etc), and if any video is
distributed by
any other means other than the internet, credit will be given to the
original submitter and a website link published with the video if
applicable, but
no further compensation will be given other than:"

http://www.themeparkreview.com/videocontest/

mainelycoasters

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Jan 19, 2009, 10:27:14 PM1/19/09
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> http://www.themeparkreview.com/videocontest/- Hide quoted text -

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But if i own the copyright I do for differnces and insults from a
webmaster have the right to ask it be removed.

mamoosh

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Jan 19, 2009, 10:32:57 PM1/19/09
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On Jan 19, 6:21 pm, mainelycoasters <mainelycoast...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> You refused
> to do that and claimed that by sending it in you had control over it
> and rights to do what ever.

Don't get mad at Robb for failing to read his contest rules. Most, if
not all, contests in which entries are judged (video, photo, song
writing, short film, etc) have it as part of the rules that anything
submitted to the contest becomes property of the party holding the
contest. I did a quick Yahoo search for "video contest" and found
these:

http://www.justdoone.org/videocontest/contestrules

(d) At the end of the Skill Contest, in Sponsor’s discretion, all
participating Entry Videos may remain posted and available for viewing
on Sponsor’s Website.
License of Rights to Entry Videos: (a) All Entry Videos submitted,
become the property of Sponsor and will not be acknowledged or
returned.

http://www.farmtoschool.org/newsletter/jan09/OfficialRulesoftheRealFoodIsVideoContest.pdf

Grant of Rights in Videos Submitted
Submission of a video constitutes the irrevocable right to the
National Farm to
School Network of all rights in the video, all rights to use, copy,
sublicense, edit,
modify, make derivative works, publish, exploit, transmit, distribute,
publicly
perform, publish, delete or display the content of and elements
embodied in the
video and the video itself, in whole or in part, in perpetuity in any
and all media
(whether now existing or hereafter devised) without limitation, and
without
consideration or acknowledgment to the entrant and the unconditional
right to use
the idea and statements about the video for advertising/publicity
purposes without
additional compensation, except where prohibited by law.

Those were the first two links. I'm not going to waste my time with
links from the other search results but I'm sure if you check other
video contests you'll find the same/similar stipulation in the rules.

mOOSH

mainelycoasters

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Jan 19, 2009, 10:46:58 PM1/19/09
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On Jan 19, 10:32 pm, mamoosh <msulli...@ntmllc.com> wrote:
> On Jan 19, 6:21 pm, mainelycoasters <mainelycoast...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > You refused
> > to do that and claimed that by sending it in you had control over it
> > and rights to do what ever.
>
> Don't get mad at Robb for failing to read his contest rules. Most, if
> not all, contests in which entries are judged (video, photo, song
> writing, short film, etc) have it as part of the rules that anything
> submitted to the contest becomes property of the party holding the
> contest. I did a quick Yahoo search for "video contest" and found
> these:
>
> http://www.justdoone.org/videocontest/contestrules
>
> (d) At the end of the Skill Contest, in Sponsor’s discretion, all
> participating Entry Videos may remain posted and available for viewing
> on Sponsor’s Website.
> License of Rights to Entry Videos: (a) All Entry Videos submitted,
> become the property of Sponsor and will not be acknowledged or
> returned.
>
> http://www.farmtoschool.org/newsletter/jan09/OfficialRulesoftheRealFo...

>
> Grant of Rights in Videos Submitted
> Submission of a video constitutes the irrevocable right to the
> National Farm to
> School Network of all rights in the video, all rights to use, copy,
> sublicense, edit,
> modify, make derivative works, publish, exploit, transmit, distribute,
> publicly
> perform, publish, delete or display the content of and elements
> embodied in the
> video and the video itself, in whole or in part, in perpetuity in any
> and all media
> (whether now existing or hereafter devised) without limitation, and
> without
> consideration or acknowledgment to the entrant and the unconditional
> right to use
> the idea and statements about the video for advertising/publicity
> purposes without
> additional compensation, except where prohibited by law.
>
> Those were the first two links. I'm not going to waste my time with
> links from the other search results but I'm sure if you check other
> video contests you'll find the same/similar stipulation in the rules.
>
> mOOSH

But of course, any way he can make a profit off some one else. My
issues with the company of theme park review, are that they pretend
not to be. You are a profitable busness who does all it can to make
money. You are not a non profit coaster site or club.

Puting that in your tos or contest rules doesn't remove the moral
obligations. Ohh I am sorry I was implying he had some. Well I have
said what I needed to. I will get back to doing my resposibilitys of
raising my child now!!!!

Theme Park Review

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Jan 19, 2009, 11:09:37 PM1/19/09
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On Jan 19, 7:46 pm, mainelycoasters <mainelycoast...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Puting that in your tos or contest rules doesn't remove the moral
> obligations. Ohh I am sorry I was implying he had some. Well I have
> said what I needed to. I will get back to doing my resposibilitys of
> raising my child now!!!!- Hide quoted text -

Methos, I'm disappointed in you. If it wasn't for us you would have
never learned how to use that shift key.

Our rules are nothing out of the ordinary for what they apply to. If
you want to get into a discussion over the language in our ToS or
contest rules, have your lawyer contact me.

--Robb Alvey
www.themeparkreview.com

GodsOnSafari

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Jan 19, 2009, 11:54:17 PM1/19/09
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On Jan 19, 10:32 pm, mamoosh <msulli...@ntmllc.com> wrote:
> On Jan 19, 6:21 pm, mainelycoasters <mainelycoast...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > You refused
> > to do that and claimed that by sending it in you had control over it
> > and rights to do what ever.
>
> Don't get mad at Robb for failing to read his contest rules. Most, if
> not all, contests in which entries are judged (video, photo, song
> writing, short film, etc) have it as part of the rules that anything
> submitted to the contest becomes property of the party holding the
> contest. I did a quick Yahoo search for "video contest" and found
> these:
>
> http://www.justdoone.org/videocontest/contestrules
>
> (d) At the end of the Skill Contest, in Sponsor’s discretion, all
> participating Entry Videos may remain posted and available for viewing
> on Sponsor’s Website.
> License of Rights to Entry Videos: (a) All Entry Videos submitted,
> become the property of Sponsor and will not be acknowledged or
> returned.
>
> http://www.farmtoschool.org/newsletter/jan09/OfficialRulesoftheRealFo...

>
> Grant of Rights in Videos Submitted
> Submission of a video constitutes the irrevocable right to the
> National Farm to
> School Network of all rights in the video, all rights to use, copy,
> sublicense, edit,
> modify, make derivative works, publish, exploit, transmit, distribute,
> publicly
> perform, publish, delete or display the content of and elements
> embodied in the
> video and the video itself, in whole or in part, in perpetuity in any
> and all media
> (whether now existing or hereafter devised) without limitation, and
> without
> consideration or acknowledgment to the entrant and the unconditional
> right to use
> the idea and statements about the video for advertising/publicity
> purposes without
> additional compensation, except where prohibited by law.
>
> Those were the first two links. I'm not going to waste my time with
> links from the other search results but I'm sure if you check other
> video contests you'll find the same/similar stipulation in the rules.
>
> mOOSH

There's a big difference between those contests and TPR, you know.

mamoosh

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Jan 20, 2009, 12:09:52 AM1/20/09
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On Jan 19, 8:54 pm, GodsOnSafari <GodsOnSaf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> There's a big difference between those contests and TPR, you know.

There may be a big difference between TRP and the organizations/
companies holding the contests I linked to but the RULES are basically
the same.

Message has been deleted

Rastus O'Ginga

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Jan 20, 2009, 9:44:57 AM1/20/09
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On Jan 20, 6:12 am, GodsOnSafari <GodsOnSaf...@gmail.com> wrote:
And
> finally, and probably most importantly, the fact is that TPR probably
> doesn't own the audio on 3/4 of those videos. That's something the
> contests are well aware of making a difference and have, as a result,
> expressly banned the use of copyrighted material for any participants.

Who the fuck cares about the copyright issue except for the rich RIAA
lawyers? I mean really, is Kanya West going to go broke because some
13 year old uses his song on a shitty coaster video that 300 people
see? Robb's DVDs are a bit different, but I still don't sympathize
with copyright lawyers, that's for sure. No one is buying Robb's DVDs
for the music. If Robb could pay a reasonable fee for using the
music, like maybe 1 cent per song per DVD, he probably would. But to
legally put that music on there, he'd probably have to raise the price
to about $30-40 per disc, and no one would buy them.

Anyone bringing up copyright issues is obviously a complete ass-hat.
Who's stupid enough to buy music now anyway? I vowed years ago to
never do it again. I weakend on two discs because of a promised
concert ticket deal (was bullshit), and a DVD insert (I'd just
download that now too). I won't even buy music for gifts. If you
want to support an act, see them live. If they don't tour, well, they
may not be able to perform the music, so they aren't worthy of you
money.

I filled my son's new MP3 player with music off Easynews too. I don't
want him wasting his allowance on lawyer salaries, that's for sure.

-RO

M_force_4_ever

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Jan 20, 2009, 10:18:16 AM1/20/09
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On Jan 20, 8:44 am, "Rastus O'Ginga" <rast...@kingwoodcable.net>
wrote:

Yeah sure musician's don't deserve to get paid for their work.
Whatever man, and I'm sure Robb wouldn't pay the copyright fees no
matter the price. Theres a simple solution; make your own music for
coaster videos then you don't violate copyright laws, you tube won't
pull your videos and best of all you can make legal money off of them.
As for buying music there's not much to say other then you're a thief
simply put. Do you dine and dash when you go out to eat? Because
that's really the same thing. Do you shoplift from grocery stores?
Same thing. It sure would be interesting if you started not getting
paid for the work that you do.

Rollermonkey

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Jan 20, 2009, 10:20:35 AM1/20/09
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Robert, I'll appreciate it if you do not contact me again at my work e-
mail. You have my personal e-mail address, use that. Thank you.

Chris

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Rastus O'Ginga

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Jan 20, 2009, 11:32:59 AM1/20/09
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> paid for the work that you do.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Musicians get paid peanuts for copyrights. Do you have any clue how
it works? A system was put in place to generate billions of dollars
selling music. The musicians get a VERY small fraction of it.
Metallica get an amazing $4 per CD, however it drops down severly to
the vast majority of musicians. Most get maybe a nickel for a song
sold on I-tunes if they are lucky. Many got nothing if they had a
shitty contract. I think Weird Al was in that situation for some of
his songs. There are thousands of lawyers and business men getting
very rich becuase idiots like think musicians should be paid, so they
buy a CD. A musician is paid at a concert. You want to support a
musician? Download their CD, and go see them live. Buy a T-shirt at
the concert. The musician will get probably 100 times the profit from
you that way as opposed to you buying a CD.

I will go out on a limb and estimate how much money Robb's DVDs could
have provided musicians. He's sold a few thousand DVDs, let's say
3000. ON those, the majority of the songs are either from obscure
acts, or one-hit wonder pop groups. These are acts that get basically
nothing for their music, maybe 50 cents on a CD sale. So, we're
talking 5 cents for a song. However, licensing for background music
is going to be lower than that, especially for a non-huge hit song.
Now, a few of his clips do have some big hits on them, let's assume
two clips per DVD have songs that would perhaps net a musician 15
cents per song, but again that would be to buy the song, not to
license it. Remember, a soundtrack CD sometimes costs more than the
movie DVD that contains that soundtrack, which shows you just how
little is paid for song licenses for background music to videos.
Sure, if he uses a Led Zepplin song, that's different, but those guys
are either dead, or rich enough.

So, let's assume those 5 cent and 15 cent profits for musicians are
halved for background licenses, which is probably a conservative
estimation.

So, we have 3000 DVDs with 20 songs each for 60,000 song licenses.
Ten percent of the songs at 15 cents, 90 percent at 5 cents, for an
average license fee of 6 cents per song. Take half of that for the
background license, and you get 3 cents. For 60,000 songs, that comes
out to be $1800 dollars. That's for probably at least 100 different
acts, meaning any said act might have lost $18 in revenue to Robb's
DVD. Some big acts lost a lot more, but I think Britney, as awesome
as she is, has enough money.

Now, maybe some of those acts ended up in abject poverty because they
lost out on Robb's music license fees, but I doubt it.

Of course, the true cost to Robb to license all of that music would
have been many hundreds of thousands of dollars. But, only a pittance
of that goes to the musicians. You're "the musicians should be paid"
comment is either the utterance of a complete imbecile who knows
nothing, or by a shyster lawyer wanting to make more money off the
backs of others.

And you should probably look up the meaning of theft before making
yourself look stupid. It's called copyright infringement.

-RO

M_force_4_ever

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Jan 20, 2009, 1:16:21 PM1/20/09
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On Jan 20, 10:32 am, "Rastus O'Ginga" <rast...@kingwoodcable.net>

I'm stupid? yeah how about I pointed out the fact that I myself am a
musician ratass. Fine your crime of choice is copyright infringement,
regardless of the title you're still a criminal like your buddy
Robert. Fine I'm stupid, just like you are but at least I wont be
receiving a notification of copyright infringement claims from the
RIAA.

Rastus O'Ginga

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Jan 20, 2009, 1:41:23 PM1/20/09
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> RIAA.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

They have stopped fining individuals. Probably because it has been an
absolute failure, and once again, teh musicians have gotten not one
red cent from the whole deal. I think a lawyer or two has gotten
might right, though. So, how many thousands of dollars have you
received from licensing your songs for use in videos?

I'm a musician too. First chair sax in HS band, electric guitar, and
getting to where I can play "hard" on drums on Guitar Hero World
Tour!! Doesn't change anything.

-RO

M_force_4_ever

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Jan 20, 2009, 2:55:42 PM1/20/09
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On Jan 20, 12:41 pm, "Rastus O'Ginga" <rast...@kingwoodcable.net>

I haven't made any money because that's not my goal, unlike Robert I
am not looking to rip people off and violate copyright laws. I make my
videos and my music for peoples enjoyment not for personal gain. Maybe
I lack good "business skills" but I'd like to think I'm above taking
advantage of people's ignorance for profit and trying to shut up those
who question it. And just because they've stopped filing suits against
individuals doesn't make what you or Robert are doing right. Oh and by
being a musician I meant: www.myspace.com/zachtharippa and
www.myspace.com/zmanmusic2008 so why don't you try writing something
before you come talk to me...In fact I'll get you started here is an 8
bar that you can have

Fuck you Ratass you stupid fatass
You got no class I'll break you like glass
You can't steal this rhyme because I gave it to you
I told you to take a shower but you still smell like poo
Braging that you're hard cause you stole your favorite songs
From Nsync to Backstreet and you're singing along
Bitch you're wrong cause even though you're a criminal
You got Robb's dick all up in you like an enema

Theme Park Review

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Jan 20, 2009, 3:04:48 PM1/20/09
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> Fuck you Ratass you stupid fatass
> You got no class I'll break you like glass
> You can't steal this rhyme because I gave it to you
> I told you to take a shower but you still smell like poo
> Braging that you're hard cause you stole your favorite songs
> From Nsync to Backstreet and you're singing along
> Bitch you're wrong cause even though you're a criminal
> You got Robb's dick all up in you like an enema- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

And you guys still can't figure out why you're banned from TPR?

--Robb Alvey
www.themeparkreview.com

Theme Park Review

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Jan 20, 2009, 3:09:35 PM1/20/09
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LOL! I love it. I send you an email to try to clear some of this up,
and you reply to me on a public forum. I used the same email address
that you last sent me a personal email with on 8/7/2006 which also is
the same email address you post to RRC with. One would assume that
would have been the correct email to use.

It's very clear to me you have no interest in resolving any of this
and you only want to create drama in a public forum.

--Robb Alvey
www.themeparkreview.com

Rastus O'Ginga

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Jan 20, 2009, 3:17:14 PM1/20/09
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Oh, so you're an unsuccessful musician, or one of those dumbasses in
the Rembrandts.

I haven't made any money yet either. There would some copyright
issues with Warrant over my first hit single "Skanky Pie" anyway.
"Ricky Lee" is all original though!


>Oh and by
> being a musician I meant:www.myspace.com/zachtharippaandwww.myspace.com/zmanmusic2008so why don't you try writing something


> before you come talk to me...In fact I'll get you started here is an 8
> bar that you can have
>
> Fuck you Ratass you stupid fatass
> You got no class I'll break you like glass
> You can't steal this rhyme because I gave it to you
> I told you to take a shower but you still smell like poo
> Braging that you're hard cause you stole your favorite songs
> From Nsync to Backstreet and you're singing along
> Bitch you're wrong cause even though you're a criminal
> You got Robb's dick all up in you like an enema

Wow, hard to see why you aren't keepin it real with Puff Diddy on the
road.
It's also clear now that you aren't a musician at all, you're a
rapper. BIG difference.

-RO

Rollermonkey

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Jan 20, 2009, 3:20:51 PM1/20/09
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On Jan 20, 2:09 pm, Theme Park Review <robbal...@themeparkreview.com>
wrote:

You say this, after sending an e-mail to the correct @yahoo address?

WTH, Robert? Who's creating drama now?

M_force_4_ever

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Jan 20, 2009, 3:29:40 PM1/20/09
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On Jan 20, 2:04 pm, Theme Park Review <robbal...@themeparkreview.com>
wrote:

Go ahead and ban me cause I'm with the GAP
I won't take your crap because I want to rhyme and rap
Here's a free rhyme for Rob why don't you get a job?
To support all of your families so you don't have to rob
Teens who don't know any better cause you taking all their cheddar
So that your friends can ride for free and families?
Don't mention child support that you're bitching about
I doubt your businesses legitimacy and while we're out
On the topic of that you can take this little rap
And use it on a video with copyright control
And make all the money you want people sucking on your tit
But I'm impressed Rob you got a real rap sheet
A real life criminal who's also internet police
But please bitch why don't you stop your wife from working the streets
Your ass is so big I think you talk with it
Because all I ever hear is you talking shit

So why don't you tell me why I was banned? I didn't do any thing and
come to think of it according to this message I got I wasn't banned.
Dear Theme Park Review member,

Your account has been temporarily deactivated because you also have an
account on the GAP.

Some GAP members have recently been trolling TPR and posting
slanderous information to both sites.

Being a member on the GAP supports that kind of unethical and
potentially illegal activity and we have been given legal advice to
not allow anyone who is a known member on GAP to continue membership
on TPR because of this activity.

PLEASE NOTE! Your account on TPR has NOT been "banned" it has been
deactivated.

If you would like to have your TPR account re-activated, please send
an email or PM to Tommy and the GAP asking for your account to be
deleted. Once you have done so, please email
robb...@themeparkreview.com and we will re-activate your TPR
account.

I have to protect myself, my family, and my business, and I cannot
associated TPR with anyone that condones the actions of GAP members.

I hate to have to ask people to "choose sides", especially because
this punishes many due to the actions of a few, but I feel this is the
only way to ensure that the trouble and the drama ends.

If you do choose to stay a member of the GAP, we will no longer allow
you to participate in any TPR trips, events, or any other park related
activity sponsored by TPR.

Again, your TPR account has not been "banned", it has been
deactivated. You may have your TPR account re-activated at any time if
you choose to have your GAP membership cancelled.

Thank you for your understanding.

--Robb

then theres the issue of another forum where apparently you take it
upon yourself to moderate...whatever

M_force_4_ever

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Jan 20, 2009, 3:39:55 PM1/20/09
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On Jan 20, 2:17 pm, "Rastus O'Ginga" <rast...@kingwoodcable.net>
> > being a musician I meant:www.myspace.com/zachtharippaandwww.myspace.com/zmanmusic2008sowhy don't you try writing something

> > before you come talk to me...In fact I'll get you started here is an 8
> > bar that you can have
>
> > Fuck you Ratass you stupid fatass
> > You got no class I'll break you like glass
> > You can't steal this rhyme because I gave it to you
> > I told you to take a shower but you still smell like poo
> > Braging that you're hard cause you stole your favorite songs
> > From Nsync to Backstreet and you're singing along
> > Bitch you're wrong cause even though you're a criminal
> > You got Robb's dick all up in you like an enema
>
> Wow, hard to see why you aren't keepin it real with Puff Diddy on the
> road.
> It's also clear now that you aren't a musician at all, you're a
> rapper. BIG difference.
>
> -RO

damn you seem to misinterpret what that meant, it means your disses
are supposed to be in rhyme form asshole. Since you've obviously got
you're head up your ass it's going to be hard to get through. So about
me not being a musician let's see what we got here from soundclick.com
(one of the largest websites for independent artists)
Charts Info
Main Genres

Phazed
# 4,311 in Electronica (highest position was 678). Total songs:
250,997
# 317 in Drum n Bass (highest position was 50). Total songs:
14,507

Sub-Genres

I Long For You (Instrumental Club Mix)
# 124 in Euro (highest position was 22). Total songs: 1,814

Drop
# 536 in Dance (highest position was 158). Total songs: 17,230

Previously Charting

These songs have previously been on the charts.
Chillin'
# 92 in Mellow . Total songs: 6,983
Electric Darkness
# 59 in Techno. Total songs: 15,810
Hard Kore
# 1,624 in Electronica. Total songs: 250,997
# 27 in Happy Hardcore. Total songs: 487
Harmoniez (Club Mix)
# 55 in Euro. Total songs: 1,814
I Make the Beat
# 184 in Electronica. Total songs: 250,997
# 24 in Dance. Total songs: 17,230
Move With the Beat (Club Mix)
# 61 in Euro. Total songs: 1,814
Shake That Ass
# 1,794 in Electronica. Total songs: 250,997
# 226 in Dance. Total songs: 17,230
Soarin'
# 178 in Trance. Total songs: 27,219
Technoriginal
# 1,513 in Electronica. Total songs: 250,997
# 167 in Techno. Total songs: 15,810
We Need Our Party People
# 1,622 in Electronica. Total songs: 250,997
# 198 in Dance. Total songs: 17,230

Hmm well look at that, it appears that I have charted singles, well
wow who's the musician? kthanksbye

Theme Park Review

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Jan 20, 2009, 3:45:39 PM1/20/09
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> robbal...@themeparkreview.com and we will re-activate your TPR

> account.
>
> I have to protect myself, my family, and my business, and I cannot
> associated TPR with anyone that condones the actions of GAP members.
>
> I hate to have to ask people to "choose sides", especially because
> this punishes many due to the actions of a few, but I feel this is the
> only way to ensure that the trouble and the drama ends.
>
> If you do choose to stay a member of the GAP, we will no longer allow
> you to participate in any TPR trips, events, or any other park related
> activity sponsored by TPR.
>
> Again, your TPR account has not been "banned", it has been
> deactivated. You may have your TPR account re-activated at any time if
> you choose to have your GAP membership cancelled.
>
> Thank you for your understanding.
>
> --Robb
>
> then theres the issue of another forum where apparently you take it
> upon yourself to moderate...whatever

Your actions and comments speak for themselves. I'm sure there is no
question from anyone reading this thread (if there is anyone still
reading this thread besides you and Belson) why your account was
deactivated, suspended, banned, whatever you want to call it, from
Theme Park Review. You certainly make no case that would warrent your
account being re-activated.

And Belson, I sent that email to your @yahoo account as a response to
what you sent me before I ever read what you posted in RRC. Not sure
what the point in any of your bringing up the emails was, other than
to create additional drama.

--Robb Alvey
www.themeparkreview.com

Theme Park Review

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On Jan 20, 12:29 pm, M_force_4_ever <Zforce2...@comcast.net> wrote:
> then theres the issue of another forum where apparently you take it
> upon yourself to moderate...whatever
Did you ever stop to think that maybe no one wants to read or cares
about the comments you make about us? And maybe, just maybe those
guys that run the "other forum" don't want to read it either?

Don't you think that if RRC was a moderated forum that someone would
have pressed the "delete" button on this thread LONG ago?

I'm willing to bet that no one really cares about the content of
anything being said here and if there is any "entertainment value" to
be extracted from this it's your classic "train wreck" scenario.

--Robb Alvey
www.themeparkreview.com

M_force_4_ever

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Jan 20, 2009, 4:02:16 PM1/20/09
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On Jan 20, 2:45 pm, Theme Park Review <robbal...@themeparkreview.com>

Hey it's alright with me at least I'm not getting charged for
"friendship" with anyone at the GAP. At least now I figured out why I
got a temp ban for posting my youtube link in the TPR video forum
(because then you couldn't have rights to them) but what I would like
to know is why you post something like this

>Please note that, while I'm not going to tell people what they should or shouldn't do while at a park, just like I'm not >going to tell people how they should drive, what crazy diets you should or shouldn't be on, etc, etc, this site does not >condone such a thing as sneaking cameras on a ride.
>
>Ask permission. That's the way to do it.
>
>--Robb
but when I was with you at a park you clearly brought your camera on
without permission so I waited and private messaged you as to not
bring it up in a public forum and all you said was "You're being a
jerk"...what's up with that?

Keith Hopkins

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Jan 20, 2009, 4:26:40 PM1/20/09
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"M_force_4_ever" <Zforc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Teens who don't know any better cause you taking all their cheddar


If I had a forum, I'd ban you for egregious abuse of the word
"cheddar."

--
Keith Hopkins
suss...@sssssssssgmail.ssssssssscom
[clear up the hissing to email]
"Excuse me, sir, but you appear to be sitting
on my gown. Would you be so kind as to move?"
Mark McKenzie


Mike Kallay

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Jan 20, 2009, 6:12:15 PM1/20/09
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On Jan 20, 4:12 am, GodsOnSafari <GodsOnSaf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And
> finally, and probably most importantly, the fact is that TPR probably
> doesn't own the audio on 3/4 of those videos. That's something the
> contests are well aware of making a difference and have, as a result,
> expressly banned the use of copyrighted material for any participants.

3/4? More like 4/4.

Here's the simplest & most obvious solution for all of those so
wronged by Bob's Big Boy:

Repackage and sell his dvd's, undercutting his price by 50%, plus free
shipping. An investment of $10 per disc will break even with 2 discs
sold, and will be pure churro loving profit after that!

Even better, put the image up online for anyone to download for free.
It's no more wrong than what he does with music. Let's see how quickly
he cries foul when his work is being abused. Then, spam his forum with
links about how to get your hands on the newest dvd.

Just as the Mullet can pick & choose who does & doesn't get his money
based on his perceived value/abuse ratio, so can everybody else do the
same with Alvey's crap. Just be sure to zip up that file -- because
you know there's no compression in formats like MPEG. :P (IIRC, that's
what I got banned for -- questioning the almighty's inane use of
superfluous compression).

I so want to see someone do this. I just want to witness the Scanners-
like cabeza explosion when those worlds collide!

/m

Theme Park Review

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Jan 20, 2009, 6:50:40 PM1/20/09
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Mike, do you realize you only post to RRC anymore whenever I post?
Kinda weird and stalkerish, don't 'ya think?

--Robb Alvey
www,themeparkreview.com

Rob Vaccaro

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Jan 20, 2009, 6:56:15 PM1/20/09
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On Jan 17, 11:54 am, "BaSSiStiSt" <dreadpirateb...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> "george" <dongarrison2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:e57a0c38-e932-479e...@r41g2000prr.googlegroups.com...
>
> Holy crap, I had like 14 of those things...
>
> :-)

HAHA! I stopped counting at 8........ (:

Mike Kallay

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Jan 20, 2009, 7:25:47 PM1/20/09
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On Jan 20, 3:50 pm, Theme Park Review <robbal...@themeparkreview.com>
wrote:

You're right!

How do you know how often & when I post except when you're monitoring
my activity? Stalker! Stalker! Stalker! Seriously, don't you have a
theme park in Guam to visit or something?

:P

P.S. Any real response to my two posts this year regarding you & your
tax evading, copyright infringing, unlicensed business activities
would be welcomed by the community, I'm sure. You don't want to open
that can, though...

P.S. II I always post after I have a roller coaster experience, which
because I'm an adult with a family and a few businesses, is about
twice per year. But, I'll always jump in on this kind of thread when
you and/or the Mullet try to justify stealing. However, it's so much
more egregious in your case, that I simply can't stay away. (knowing
what it takes to do business here in California). I hope the glass in
your house is pretty thick!

/m

mainelycoasters

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Jan 20, 2009, 7:26:03 PM1/20/09
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On Jan 19, 11:09 pm, Theme Park Review <robbal...@themeparkreview.com>
wrote:
> On Jan 19, 7:46 pm, mainelycoasters <mainelycoast...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Puting that in your tos or contest rules doesn't remove the moral
> > obligations. Ohh I am sorry I was implying he had some. Well I have
> > said what I needed to. I will get back to doing my resposibilitys of
> > raising my child now!!!!- Hide quoted text -
>
> Methos, I'm disappointed in you.  If it wasn't for us you would have
> never learned how to use that shift key.
>
> Our rules are nothing out of the ordinary for what they apply to.  If
> you want to get into a discussion over the language in our ToS or
> contest rules, have your lawyer contact me.
>
> --Robb Alveywww.themeparkreview.com

Wow what I could say to this. All I want is my account removed. Its
simple since no one their even remembers i exist any way. I was smart
enough to remove my videos first. TPR means nothing to me. I have far
more important things to do then bring your little world crashing to
the ground. You made a chose to remove me from that world. I ask that
you finish the job. If you want to discuss this you have my e-mail on
here. To make it easy here you go mainely...@yahoo.com. I could
care less if you do anything with my video now. I am simply stating
the point that what you said about no one ever complaining about the
tos or things that you take ownership of is a lie. I know why I was
banned. I was banned for stating my thoughts on a subject witch if you
look back in the chat log another user brought up. Actually he was
picking on me about it before you decided to protect the future profit
in the trips and out me for telling what I view to be my side. I told
you long ago we will never agree on it. I know what you did and why.
You know how I feel and why. I simply think that supporting some one
who wishes to throw something in my face was low. If you even knew
half of what life for me is like, you would feel bad for what
happened. I hope for your sake you never have to go through the hell
that has been normal life for me. I hope you never have the Dr's and
medical issues that I deal with for my son every day. So when you want
to say something bad to me about me or any thing like that, I want you
to know one thing. Fate dealt me one hell of a bad card. That is
something that takes a lot more to deal with and will for my whole
life. So when your baby girl says dad, remember my son is not capable
of doing it. When she runs over and hugs you, remember mine can not
walk. Remember just how lucky you are to have a healthy child. And
before you talk down to me again, think of what kind of a person I
must be to go through all this, stand by my son get him all the help
he needs and find the best i can get. To work with him every day with
the hopes he may develop a bit more if i work with him. I want you to
think to your self is this some one worth insulting, is it worth
trying to make him feel any worse. Or should you be honorable, moral
and kind reach a hand out for the poor person delt a bad card. Instead
of wishing me gone and trying to insult me, you could have used your
popularity for something good. Sad to think when some one in your
community falls down and has issues, not only do you not care you see
fit to kick them while they are down.

Theme Park Review

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Jan 20, 2009, 7:50:39 PM1/20/09
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On Jan 20, 4:26 pm, mainelycoasters <mainelycoast...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 19, 11:09 pm, Theme Park Review <robbal...@themeparkreview.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 19, 7:46 pm, mainelycoasters <mainelycoast...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Puting that in your tos or contest rules doesn't remove the moral
> > > obligations. Ohh I am sorry I was implying he had some. Well I have
> > > said what I needed to. I will get back to doing my resposibilitys of
> > > raising my child now!!!!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > Methos, I'm disappointed in you.  If it wasn't for us you would have
> > never learned how to use that shift key.
>
> > Our rules are nothing out of the ordinary for what they apply to.  If
> > you want to get into a discussion over the language in our ToS or
> > contest rules, have your lawyer contact me.
>
> > --Robb Alveywww.themeparkreview.com
>
> Wow what I could say to this. All I want is my account removed. Its
> simple since no one their even remembers i exist any way. I was smart
> enough to remove my videos first. TPR means nothing to me. I have far
> more important things to do then bring your little world crashing to
> the ground. You made a chose to remove me from that world. I ask that
> you finish the job. If you want to discuss this you have my e-mail on
> here. To make it easy here you go mainelycoast...@yahoo.com. I could

Methos,

Do you think it would be possible to re-write this in a format that
doesn't make my eyes bleed? I might actually take the time to read it
then.

Thank you.

--Robb Alvey
www.themeparkreview.com

Rastus O'Ginga

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Jan 20, 2009, 8:01:04 PM1/20/09
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> > > being a musician I meant:www.myspace.com/zachtharippaandwww.myspace.com/zmanmusic2008sowhydon't you try writing something


Charted singles? OK, if you say so. But, you said you haven't made
money. NOw, you really care about your chart positions. Fess up, you
obviously DO want to make money.

And, hey, whatever. People's musical taste are like thier assholes.

Fact is,you're still very wrong on the copyright issues. The RIAA has
lost, even the one decision that they thought they won is being
reconsidered. The music industry is collapsing under its own greed.
Amazing, I guess forcing rap and hip hop as the only viable music
choice on the country apparently didn't work out too well.

-RO

Rastus O'Ginga

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Jan 20, 2009, 8:04:18 PM1/20/09
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> /m- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Ahh, the RRC trolls are out in full force against Robb again, I see.
Funny, I never see anyone attack Joyride's illegal activities.

Since I can't imagine Rob makes a profit on teh DVDs with the enormous
server bill he gets, I don't see what the RIAA's lawyers could get.

-RO

mainelycoasters

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Jan 20, 2009, 8:04:34 PM1/20/09
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On Jan 20, 7:50 pm, Theme Park Review <robbal...@themeparkreview.com>
> --Robb Alveywww.themeparkreview.com- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I would be happy to but here is the thing. If you really care to know
my situation you can ask via e-mail. If you really want to know what
happened the night of my ban you need to open your mind and hear the
whole story.

So if you feel ambitious or caring feel free to drop a line. here I
make it easy mainely...@yahoo.com. If your willing to put pride
aside I will talk civil.

Jarsh

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Jan 20, 2009, 8:11:59 PM1/20/09
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On Jan 20, 7:04 pm, "Rastus O'Ginga" <rast...@kingwoodcable.net>
wrote:

> Since I can't imagine Rob makes a profit on teh DVDs with the enormous


> server bill he gets, I don't see what the RIAA's lawyers could get.
>

> -RO-

Everything else. :)

Am I'm more than satisfied with that.

Rollermonkey

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Jan 20, 2009, 9:57:47 PM1/20/09
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> Since I can't imagine Rob makes a profit on teh DVDs with the enormous
> server bill he gets, I don't see what the RIAA's lawyers could get.
>
> -RO-

Really?

Last time I checked, Duane is supporting all of RCDB's server/
webhosting bills with that one tiny google ad at the top of his site.
I'm sure that if Robert wasn't making any profit from his DVDs he
wouldn't bother doing them.

Like I said, my beef with Robert is simply the way he's treated me. My
requests are simple, tell me why I was banned, delete my account and
stop spamming me. He keeps ignoring the first two parts, and claims
I'm not being spammed. I had his address blocked for over a year, and
on a whim, I unblocked it, sure enough I was still getting them. I'm
just waiting to see if the next mass-mailing hits my inbox or not.

Chris

Rollermonkey

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Jan 20, 2009, 10:07:16 PM1/20/09