Six Flags New England - It's Official!
Cyclone411
It's official. Riverside Park is now Six Flags New England. A press conference
held today (12-8-99) finally released the "closely guarded secret" to the media
and general public. But first, the really IMPORTANT news….. NEW TRAINS FOR
THE (RIVERSIDE) CYCLONE!! That news was not in the official presentation but I
found out behind the scenes. I didn't get specifics but we can hope for a
return to PTC's now that individual lap bars are standard (I believe the lap
bar system is the main reason the original PTC's were replaced with Morgans). I
had the opportunity to provide special lighting for the theatrically produced
presentation which included appearances by Batman and the Looney Tunes
characters who will be appearing next summer. (There will be a Batman stunt
show which may appease some of the folks who used to like the demo derby and
figure-8 races). Those of you in the New England area may have seen clips on
the local news.
Apparently the character licensing was one of the big hold-ups (those are
valuable intellectual properties.) The park showed a rendering of the beautiful
new entrance plaza that will greet patrons as well as the official new SFNE
logo. The Speedway is long gone already in preparation for the construction of
Superman: The Ride (lift hill and track already arriving in the parking lot)
and it's somewhat amazing to see the great view of the namesake river that we
all knew was there but couldn't see from the old midway. This new, true
"riverside" area (themed as "Superhero Adventures" will be a nice place and
Superman will provide a great view. There will also be an air-conditioned
restaurant.
And as we all knew, the Black Widow is being replaced with another relatively
low capacity boomerang. Flashback is the less-than-original name for a less
than original ride that received much less hype than S:ROS. The third coaster
will be called Poison Ivy's Twisted Train and appears to be a mine train type.
The artist rendering showed wood trestle structures, but then again also showed
a totally incorrect profile of S:ROS with a wooden shack-like station. (The
individual rendering of S:ROS is the one from Darien Lake.
The Six Flags announcement is not much of a surprise, of course, to anyone
who's been following the massive capital investments and expansion of the last
few years, and Riverside is certainly a more worthy choice than Darien Lake
which went Six Flags last year. Though I was wishing unrealistically for an
Apollo's Chariot clone, I'm mighty pleased with the Superman ride which will be
lots of fun (and it's only a 10 minute diversion from my evening commute
home……). I hope they will find a more efficient way of starting each day
than the individually hand-filled person-shaped water bottles they use to test
the trains at Darien Lake. It will be nice to buy a local season pass that will
allow unlimited access to the whole SF network without $10 add-on fees.
According to my official Countdown Clock it is 147 Days, 21 Hours and 1 Minute
to Opening Day, May 5, 2000 (invitation only press day) Season Pass holders
ONLY get in April 29 & 30.
New Six Flags branding also goes to Walibi Flevo (SF Holland), Reino Aventura
(SF Mexico), Geauga Lake (SF Ohio)
All in all, it is a good thing for the small traditional parks of New England.
With the solidification of the Six Flags dynasty at this existing location,
especially with the choice to make this SF "New England" rather than
incorporating the Riverside name, the prospect of a mega-park being built in
close proximity to Compounce, Whalom or Canobie is greatly lessened, to their
relief, I'm sure. Compounce's new coaster will bring plenty of attention there,
along with Connecticut loyalists, and Whalom is in the vicinity of enough
economically depressed areas that they will continue to have a local crowd
unwilling or unable to make the 2 hour drive to Six Flags New England very
frequently.
See you all in May on Superman: The Ride!
Paul Charette
Cyclone411
Matt Crowther
> and general public. But first, the really IMPORTANT news.. NEW TRAINS FOR
> THE (RIVERSIDE) CYCLONE!! That news was not in the official presentation but I
> found out behind the scenes. I didn't get specifics but we can hope for a
> return to PTC's now that individual lap bars are standard (I believe the lap
> bar system is the main reason the original PTC's were replaced with Morgans).
(SNIP)
I suspect it might be Gerstlauers, not PTCs, but that would still be a
slight improvement, as I like the Gerstlauers a bit more than Morgans. I
hope it is PTCs, though.
Matt
Tim Santa Cruz
relatively
> low capacity boomerang. Flashback is the less-than-original name for a
less
> than original ride that received much less hype than S:ROS.
Is this to be a Boomerang or an Invertigo?
Tim
Joe Schwartz
> But first, the really IMPORTANT news….. NEW TRAINS FOR THE (RIVERSIDE)
> CYCLONE!!
Being one of the few people who liked the Morgan trains on the Cyclone, I'm
not real excited about this. New trains might improve the Cyclone, but I'm
afraid they might make it worse. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
> And as we all knew, the Black Widow is being replaced with another relatively
> low capacity boomerang. Flashback is the less-than-original name for a less
> than original ride that received much less hype than S:ROS.
Oh well. An Invertigo would've been nicer. Or maybe another Linear Gale.
> Though I was wishing unrealistically for an Apollo's Chariot clone, I'm
> mighty pleased with the Superman ride which will be lots of fun...
Yes, I'm very psyched about Superman, especially if it's as good as
Darien's.
Also, according to the Six Flags website, Hellevator will be renamed to
Scream! (with the exclamation point). Go figure...
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Chris.
Tim Santa Cruz wrote:
>
> > And as we all knew, the Black Widow is being replaced with another
> relatively
> > low capacity boomerang. Flashback is the less-than-original name for a
> less
> > than original ride that received much less hype than S:ROS.
>
> Is this to be a Boomerang or an Invertigo?
>
> Tim
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Yeah!!!!!
Chris.
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> Flashback will be the boomerang formerly known as Vampire.
Hehehe, it's REALLY SAD when you can't even get a new BOOMERANG!!
I just hope it has the new Vekoma train, but knowing Premier, they'll just
keep the old Arrow one. If so, let's take bets as to when the first valley
will occur!
-CK-
Chris Kearsing
Sean Costa <ecze...@aol.comY2Kraken> wrote in message
>I will be very satisfied with a plain old Boomerang.
I'm not. I was looking forward to trying an Invertigo. The Invertigo is
something I want to give a shot, but don't want to go out of my way for.
Premier is just being cheap again.. I mean Compounce is how far away? Not
to mention The Great Escape..
-CK-
Tim Melago
>
> cyclo...@aol.com (Cyclone411) wrote:
>
> > But first, the really IMPORTANT news….. NEW TRAINS FOR THE (RIVERSIDE)
> > CYCLONE!!
>
> not real excited about this. New trains might improve the Cyclone, but I'm
> afraid they might make it worse. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
I could tolerate the Morgan's on the Cyclone although I would surely
prefer PTCs. But I think I would still take the Morgan's over
the Gerstlauer trains. I'm afraid of what Gerstlauer lapbar devices will
do to people's legs and knees on the Cyclone's wicked turns. Imagine
your knee stuck on that bar as the rest of your body is thrown into the
other seat. OUCH!
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KevinCBear
Thanks for posting the info!
Kevin Coley
Oakland, CA
KevinCBear
>hope it is PTCs, though.
You're not the only one! :)
Kevin
CoasterMania
>THE (RIVERSIDE) CYCLONE!!
There is a god. Which one though, I'm not sure.
-and I go to catholic school-
Alan
Sean Costa
The ECC site said it was an Invertigo. This was a slight error, it is actually
a boomerang. As much as I would like an Invertigo to come, I will be very
satisfied with a plain old Boomerang.
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Christian Lucht <luc...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> The new trains have been ordered for Cyclone. They will be from.....PTC!
> Yeah!!!!!
>
> Chris.
>
> Matt Crowther wrote:
> >
> > > and general public. But first, the really IMPORTANT news.. NEW TRAINS
FOR
> > > THE (RIVERSIDE) CYCLONE!! That news was not in the official
presentation but I
> > > found out behind the scenes. I didn't get specifics but we can hope
for a
> > > return to PTC's now that individual lap bars are standard (I believe
the lap
> > > bar system is the main reason the original PTC's were replaced with
Morgans).
> >
> > (SNIP)
> >
> > I suspect it might be Gerstlauers, not PTCs, but that would still be a
> > slight improvement, as I like the Gerstlauers a bit more than Morgans. I
> > hope it is PTCs, though.
> >
Mark7594
<mcrowther-081...@user-38ld3ev.dialup.mindspring.com>,
mcro...@mindspring.com (Matt Crowther) wrote:
>
> > and general public. But first, the really IMPORTANT news.. NEW
TRAINS FOR
> > THE (RIVERSIDE) CYCLONE!! That news was not in the official
presentation but I
> > found out behind the scenes. I didn't get specifics but we can hope
for a
> > return to PTC's now that individual lap bars are standard (I believe
the lap
> > bar system is the main reason the original PTC's were replaced with
Morgans).
>
> (SNIP)
>
> I suspect it might be Gerstlauers, not PTCs, but that would still be a
> slight improvement, as I like the Gerstlauers a bit more than Morgans.
I
> hope it is PTCs, though.
Six Flags New England GM Tim Black has confirmed they are PTC's.
Mark Denning
>
> Matt
>
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Mark7594
"Tim Santa Cruz" <santa...@cshs.org> wrote:
> > And as we all knew, the Black Widow is being replaced with another
> relatively
> > low capacity boomerang. Flashback is the less-than-original name for
a
> less
> > than original ride that received much less hype than S:ROS.
>
>
>
It will be a Boomerang relocated from Kentucky Kingdom. The good
news though is that it will be renamed Flashback with a brand new
paint job and a brand new train. Also the station will be located
in the middle of the midway next to the Balloon ride so you won't
have to climb a hill to ride.
Mark Denning
Ted Ansley
>I personally hate the PTC trains. Are they better than Morgans?
>
WHAT! PTCs are FAR better than Morgans! I just hope they don't
replace them with "California Style" PTCs. (Morgan's again!)
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>Christian Lucht <luc...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>news:384F1103...@worldnet.att.net...
>> The new trains have been ordered for Cyclone. They will be from.....PTC!
>> Yeah!!!!!
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>> Matt Crowther wrote:
>> >
>> > > and general public. But first, the really IMPORTANT news.. NEW TRAINS
>FOR
>> > > THE (RIVERSIDE) CYCLONE!! That news was not in the official
>presentation but I
>> > > found out behind the scenes. I didn't get specifics but we can hope
>for a
>> > > return to PTC's now that individual lap bars are standard (I believe
>the lap
>> > > bar system is the main reason the original PTC's were replaced with
>Morgans).
>> >
>> > (SNIP)
>> >
>> > I suspect it might be Gerstlauers, not PTCs, but that would still be a
>> > slight improvement, as I like the Gerstlauers a bit more than Morgans. I
>> > hope it is PTCs, though.
>> >
>> > Matt
>>
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>
>Sean Costa <ecze...@aol.comY2Kraken> wrote in message
>
>>I will be very satisfied with a plain old Boomerang.
>
>I'm not. I was looking forward to trying an Invertigo. The Invertigo is
>something I want to give a shot, but don't want to go out of my way for.
>Premier is just being cheap again.. I mean Compounce is how far away? Not
>to mention The Great Escape..
Oh, jesus, give it a rest, Chris!
Cheap?!
They're spending $50 million on Riverside alone; not to mention $140
million on *just* the four new parks. Let's not forget all the other
parks receiving additions: SFA, SFFT, SFMW, SFMM, SFSL, etc. etc. etc.
Perhaps Premier could only afford a set amount per park, and they felt
Riverside needed additional improvements rather than a sparkling, new
Invertigo?
/k
CoAsTeR FaNaTiC
>relatively
>> low capacity boomerang.
i belive that the boomerangs spoke of is the vampire from kentucky kingdom
i seen parts of the coaster being taken up
I-71 northeast last week
chuck
Robb Alvey
>>THE (RIVERSIDE) CYCLONE!!
>
>
Now all Premier has to do is announce they are building a transfer track onto
Thunder Run to accomidate a second train I'd be totally converted to the
Premier chruch!
Cheers.
--Robb
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Disclaimer: The above text is the opinion of myself and NOT the opinion of the
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Chris Lucht
Chris.
Chris Kearsing wrote:
>
> Christian Lucht <luc...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>
> > Flashback will be the boomerang formerly known as Vampire.
>
> Hehehe, it's REALLY SAD when you can't even get a new BOOMERANG!!
>
> I just hope it has the new Vekoma train, but knowing Premier, they'll just
> keep the old Arrow one. If so, let's take bets as to when the first valley
> will occur!
>
> -CK-
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>The new trains have been ordered for Cyclone. They will be from.....PTC!
>Yeah!!!!!
Honest and for true? Oh, happy day.
Guess it would've been tough to scrape the Riverside logo off the ol'
fiberglass... ;-)
-Shawn Mamros
E-mail to: mam...@mit.edu
Shawn Mamros
>I'm not. I was looking forward to trying an Invertigo. The Invertigo is
>something I want to give a shot, but don't want to go out of my way for.
>Premier is just being cheap again.. I mean Compounce is how far away? Not
>to mention The Great Escape..
Riddle me this... how many of Riv-, oops, SFNE's patrons have even *heard*
of either Lake Compounce or the Great Escape? Precious few, I'd bet,
especially if you're talking about folks coming from the east (read:
Boston and its 'burbs).
-Shawn Mamros (though they should...)
E-mail to: mam...@mit.edu
Paul Kossa
Hmmmm . . . I've heard bad things about this day!! :-)
Paul A. Kossa --- not disgruntled: DISENCHANTED!
Sean Costa
>Yeah!!!!!
And now, ladies and gentlemen, the worst typo ever seen....
Halleluya!!!!!!
Rob Vaccaro
"Christian Lucht" <luc...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message......
> The new trains have been ordered for Cyclone. They will be from.....PTC!
> Yeah!!!!!
>
> Chris.
Now I am super stoked!! Super job Premier! PTC Lives! PTC Lives!
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Chris Kearsing
Chris Lucht <luc...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
> Yeah, but the 121' hyper makes up for it!
No, the PTCs on Cyclone make up for that.. the Hyper is just an added bonus!
:)
-CK-
Steve Nuss
>And now, ladies and gentlemen, the worst typo ever seen....
Guess you've never read a GameKid, Coaster610, udummy post. ;)
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Chris Kearsing
Shawn Mamros <mam...@mit.edu> wrote in message news:384fd668$0
>> Riddle me this... how many of Riv-, oops, SFNE's patrons have even
*heard* of either Lake Compounce or the Great Escape? Precious few, I'd
bet, especially if you're talking about folks coming from the east (read:
Boston and its 'burbs).<<
Compounce is 40 MINUTES AWAY!!!!!
And I'm sure plenty have heard of The Great Escape, it's only some 2h30
away.. not to mention that the Riverside Season Pass had coupons for TGE in
them.
Chris Kearsing
> Oh, jesus, give it a rest, Chris!
Don't let it bother you, Kip!
> Cheap?!
A used boomerang is cheap, yes. But now that I think that the Invertigo
might have been sacrificed for PTCs on the Cyclone, I'm happy as hell. In
which case, I wouldn't have cared if they recycled a hyper! I just find it
hilarious that they can't even get a new Boomerang, the most popular steel
production model ever! I really don't care though, I'll ride it once and
move on to Cyclone.
> They're spending $50 million on Riverside alone; not to mention $140
> million on *just* the four new parks. Let's not forget all the other
> parks receiving additions: SFA, SFFT, SFMW, SFMM, SFSL, etc. etc. etc.
At the expense of cutting all full time staff and security.
> Perhaps Premier could only afford a set amount per park, and they felt
> Riverside needed additional improvements rather than a sparkling, new
> Invertigo?
That's an understatement that they need additional improvements. I'll admit
it- I'm really excited about Riverside next year! And you're right- if the
additional improvements come in the form of new PTCs for Cyclone, then I'm
glad. I just find it SO FUNNY, especially since Jeff predicted it before it
was announced.
-CK-
DJ Gallup and Richard Allen
>
> Shawn Mamros <mam...@mit.edu> wrote in message news:384fd668$0
>
> >> Riddle me this... how many of Riv-, oops, SFNE's patrons have even
> *heard* of either Lake Compounce or the Great Escape? Precious few, I'd
> bet, especially if you're talking about folks coming from the east (read:
> Boston and its 'burbs).<<
>
people I've talked to in the Albany area know about Riverside.
Rebel Transcanner
>No, the PTCs on Cyclone make up for that.. the Hyper is just an added
bonus!
>:)
221!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Iain (who wonders how this could have been posted SO MANY TIMES and NO
ONE NOTICED)
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how well they could take the curves... OMFG. That gets me positively
aroused.
D.J.
Sean Costa
alot of peopel here don't like them, maybe they're not so great as they look.
Sean Costa
Eric
Sean Costa wrote in message
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>Has Ricky's Little Twister been removed?
>
Yes.
And Rolling Thunder has been moved to that location (by the grove entrance)
it looks great there!
Chris Lucht
look great and track great, but the lap bars stink out loud. Major
staple effect. I'm sure with better lap bars they *could* be really
great.
Chris.
Sean Costa wrote:
>
> I would love to see those opened up trains like on the Western 'Roar'. I hear
> alot of peopel here don't like them, maybe they're not so great as they look.
>
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Chris Lucht
Rebel Transcanner wrote:
>
> >> Yeah, but the 121' hyper makes up for it!
>
>
> 221!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Iain (who wonders how this could have been posted SO MANY TIMES and NO
> ONE NOTICED)
KevinCBear
Yeah, the lap bars do stink out loud, but I've heard that they are being
adjusted for the 2000 season. Let us hope that this adjustment is incorporated
into every new GCI train. It is a real shame to have such beautiful trains
with such lousy lap bars.
Kevin Coley
Oakland, CA
Shawn Mamros
>Shawn Mamros <mam...@mit.edu> wrote in message news:384fd668$0
>>> Riddle me this... how many of Riv-, oops, SFNE's patrons have even
>*heard* of either Lake Compounce or the Great Escape? Precious few, I'd
>bet, especially if you're talking about folks coming from the east (read:
>Boston and its 'burbs).<<
>
Yes, it is. But most of the people visiting Riverside/SFNE from Boston
have never even heard of LC, let alone visited there. There hasn't been
word one about the Boulder Dash construction in the Boston media.
>And I'm sure plenty have heard of The Great Escape, it's only some 2h30
>away.. not to mention that the Riverside Season Pass had coupons for TGE in
>them.
Two and a half hours is a long drive for most people. Especially if you
add that to the almost two hours most Bostonians have to drive to go
to Agawam. Ask any Bostonian who's been to Riverside if they know of
TGE - 99 out of 100 times, at least, all you'll get is, "Huh?"
I think you don't realize just how much of Riverside's business comes
from the Boston area. For years (even before Premier), Riverside
advertised themselves as being the largest park in New England, and
it wasn't just hype. I have never seen an ad for either LC or TGE
*anywhere* on any Boston media outlet, but there's always been Riverside
ads. The Boston area has far more population than does Springfield/
Hartford, so Riverside has always encouraged Bostonians to take the
drive west on the Mass Pike. To the vast majority of those people,
Flashback will be an entirely new experience.
Matt Bly
out about all the different trains and what does tracking mean?
--Matt
SFO IS GONNA ROCK!!!
Locoboy
>
> From what I've heard from people who have ridden the GCI trains, they
> look great and track great, but the lap bars stink out loud. Major
> staple effect. I'm sure with better lap bars they *could* be really
> great.
>
> Chris.
>
> Sean Costa wrote:
> >
> > I would love to see those opened up trains like on the Western 'Roar'. I hear
> > alot of peopel here don't like them, maybe they're not so great as they look.
> >
>
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I've never really minded the lap bars all that much because I never
thought that Roar was much of an airtime coaster. There are a few spots
of nice airtime, but it's not real ejector stand-up airtime.
Locoboy
>
> Yeah, the lap bars do stink out loud, but I've heard that they are being
> adjusted for the 2000 season. Let us hope that this adjustment is incorporated
> into every new GCI train. It is a real shame to have such beautiful trains
> with such lousy lap bars.
>
> Oakland, CA
I heard that too Kevin. Hopefully we'll get to ride soon next season
and we all can find out for ourselves what kind of changes have been
made.
Dave Althoff
: Joe Schwartz wrote:
: >
: > cyclo...@aol.com (Cyclone411) wrote:
: >
: > > But first, the really IMPORTANT news….. NEW TRAINS FOR THE (RIVERSIDE)
: > > CYCLONE!!
: >
: > Being one of the few people who liked the Morgan trains on the Cyclone, I'm
: > not real excited about this. New trains might improve the Cyclone, but I'm
: > afraid they might make it worse. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
: I could tolerate the Morgan's on the Cyclone although I would surely
: prefer PTCs. But I think I would still take the Morgan's over
: the Gerstlauer trains. I'm afraid of what Gerstlauer lapbar devices will
: do to people's legs and knees on the Cyclone's wicked turns. Imagine
: your knee stuck on that bar as the rest of your body is thrown into the
: other seat. OUCH!
The secret to avoiding this is to do one of the following:
A) Ride with a good friend.
B) Ride by yourself, but extend your inside arm across the empty seat and
grab the handlebar mounted above and outside the opposite sidewall of the
train.
(B) is actually the more effective solution. Works on Twisted Sisters,
anyway...
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Dave Althoff
: This may sound incredibly stupid but is there a website where you can find
: out about all the different trains and what does tracking mean?
I'm slowly working on that.......in the mean time you can take a look at
my site...
http://capital2.capital.edu/admin-staff/dalthoff
...paying particular attention to...
http://capital2.capital.edu/admin-staff/dalthoff/coastercar.html
and
http://capital2.capital.edu/admin-staff/dalthoff/bobsled.html
More is coming, and I am slowly adding illustration to the coastercar.html
file.
Is there something in particular you would like to know about?
tv's Spatch
>The secret to avoiding this is to do one of the following:
>B) Ride by yourself, but extend your inside arm across the empty seat and
>grab the handlebar mounted above and outside the opposite sidewall of the
>train.
>
>(B) is actually the more effective solution. Works on Twisted Sisters,
>anyway...
Works on the Hersheypark Wild Mouse, too.
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Dana Schwartz
>Tim Melago (roll...@sgi.net) wrote:
>: I could tolerate the Morgan's on the Cyclone although I would surely
>: prefer PTCs. But I think I would still take the Morgan's over
>: the Gerstlauer trains. I'm afraid of what Gerstlauer lapbar devices will
>: do to people's legs and knees on the Cyclone's wicked turns. Imagine
>: your knee stuck on that bar as the rest of your body is thrown into the
>: other seat. OUCH!
>The secret to avoiding this is to do one of the following:
>A) Ride with a good friend.
>B) Ride by yourself, but extend your inside arm across the empty seat and
>grab the handlebar mounted above and outside the opposite sidewall of the
>train.
>(B) is actually the more effective solution. Works on Twisted Sisters,
>anyway...
While these strategies may work for you, Dave, I'm not so sure that
they'd work for everyone. I've ridden Twisted Sisters with good
friends (that includes Dooley!). I tried it alone, too. If you are a
small(er) person who enjoys riding hands up, not desperately clinging
to a bar or overreaching to protect yourself from the u-bar's downward
parts, or pushing your friend *back* away from you so that he/she
doesn't shove you into the u-bar, well... forget it. I acquired a
painful, lemon-sized lump/bruise on the side of my thigh last June
that hadn't totally gone away by August! It happened before I took a
defensive approach and minimized the slamming by holding on during the
laterals.
Like any of us who have ridden coasters for a while, I've given and
taken my share of shots in the arms, legs, and ribs. It's a "risk" we
take when we ride coasters, and if we choose to ride without holding
on we need to accept that risk. But no train I've ridden in
(including the Morgans) has been as brutally unforgiving as the
Gerstlauers on TS. Many people -- not just coaster enthusiasts --
ride with their hands up, and I haven't been on a coaster yet where
they've enforced holding onto the assist or lap bar. Many children
and teens ride without holding on for dear life and are a lot smaller
than I am. Like me, I doubt that many of them could reach the far
side of the train easily if they were riding alone. Put two smallish
kids or adults in those trains and they'll do a lot of slamming
against one another *and* the upside down u-bars. (And, I'm not sure
how much useful padding could be added to the downward part before it
impedes the ability of larger riders to fit underneath them.)
So, while I'm sure your riding style on TS's Gerstlauer trains work
for you and may for others, I don't think it would help that much for
me. Nor do I wish to be confronted with a whole bunch of new coasters
where I can't ride with my hands up if I choose, without fear of
getting really banged up.
Dana Schwartz (where can I get thigh pads?)
doo...@ix.netcom.com
Rebel Transcanner
I dunno, but wouldn't I be smashing in football gear on MF?
Iain
Dana Schwartz
>>Dana Schwartz (where can I get thigh pads?)
>I dunno, but wouldn't I be smashing in football gear on MF?
Is the Carol Channing Action Wig and Helmut optional?
Quack!
Dana Schwartz (isn't about time for you to eat your cheesecake? :-P )
doo...@ix.netcom.com
Rebel Transcanner
Dana Schwartz wrote in message <82u22q$si$1...@nntp8.atl.mindspring.net>...
>>I dunno, but wouldn't I be smashing in football gear on MF?
>Is the Carol Channing Action Wig and Helmut optional?
>Quack!
She hasn't gotten any ac... oh I better be nice (^:
>Dana Schwartz (isn't about time for you to eat your cheesecake? :-P )
Naw. Just the Poutine. Oh my! I've spilled my Poutine. Could you please pass
me a Serviette?
Iain (I love this country (^: )
Sandy A. Nicolaysen
it's only 150 miles away. Most people here know of Riverside and
Great Escape. Yours truly would not know of Lake Compounce if not for
Bret Clancy. Personally, Boulder Dash is my project coaster of the
'99-'00 season.
Regards, - Sandy
On 09 Dec 1999 16:18:48 GMT, mam...@mit.edu (Shawn Mamros) wrote:
>Chris Kearsing <coa...@capital.net> wrote:
>>I'm not. I was looking forward to trying an Invertigo. The Invertigo is
>>something I want to give a shot, but don't want to go out of my way for.
>>Premier is just being cheap again.. I mean Compounce is how far away? Not
>>to mention The Great Escape..
>
>Riddle me this... how many of Riv-, oops, SFNE's patrons have even *heard*
>of either Lake Compounce or the Great Escape? Precious few, I'd bet,
>especially if you're talking about folks coming from the east (read:
>Boston and its 'burbs).
>
>-Shawn Mamros (though they should...)
>E-mail to: mam...@mit.edu
J. Rasmussen
Sandy A. Nicolaysen wrote in message ...
>Shawn: Here in central NJ, NO ONE has heard of Lake Compounce, and
>it's only 150 miles away. Most people here know of Riverside and
>Great Escape. Yours truly would not know of Lake Compounce if not for
>Bret Clancy. Personally, Boulder Dash is my project coaster of the
>'99-'00 season.
>
>Regards, - Sandy
No one here in Western New York (over 400 miles away) had heard of it
until last summer when there were tons of Pepsi cans advertising Lake
Compounce on them for sale ($1.99 for a six-pack) at local stores
everywhere. I thought it was a little odd since usually our cans advertise
Darien Lake or Buffalo Bills. Is it possible that the Pepsi bottled for
the Bristol, CT area is also bottled by Clinton's Ditch Cooperative (love
that name) near Syracuse and there was a mix-up? Did folks in CT get cans
advertising Darien Lake last summer?
-Janna
Dave Althoff
: What would dal...@gcfn.org (Dave Althoff) do?
: >The secret to avoiding this is to do one of the following:
: >B) Ride by yourself, but extend your inside arm across the empty seat and
: >grab the handlebar mounted above and outside the opposite sidewall of the
: >train.
: >
: >(B) is actually the more effective solution. Works on Twisted Sisters,
: >anyway...
: Works on the Hersheypark Wild Mouse, too.
Never been on the one at Hershey, but I learned that trick on the Wilde
Maus at BGW (sit on the right...left hand to the side for the curves,
right hand to the front for the brakes...).
Many thanks to the European coaster car builders for giving us those
useful handholds!
Chris Lucht
is literally how well the trains follow the track. A train that does not
track well will shimmy and may not corner well. Another factor is
articulation. For really twisted track, you want a train that can
articulate well. GCI's one advantage is that they articulate more than
their competitors (PTC & Gerstlauer). If a train doesn't articulate
enough, you will see one of the wheels come off the track. This isn't
uncommon, but it doesn't have to happen.
Chris.
Matt Bly wrote:
>
> This may sound incredibly stupid but is there a website where you can find
> out about all the different trains and what does tracking mean?
>
coast...@my-deja.com
> The secret to avoiding this is to do one of the following:
>
> A) Ride with a good friend.
>
> B) Ride by yourself, but extend your inside arm across the empty seat
and
> grab the handlebar mounted above and outside the opposite sidewall of
the
> train.
>
> (B) is actually the more effective solution. Works on Twisted
Sisters,
> anyway...
And it pumps up your arms in the process!
Jacob
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On 11 Dec 1999, Dave Althoff wrote:
> Matt Bly (matts...@aol.com) wrote:
> : This may sound incredibly stupid but is there a website where you can find
> : out about all the different trains and what does tracking mean?
>
> I'm slowly working on that.......in the mean time you can take a look at
> my site...
>
> More is coming, and I am slowly adding illustration to the coastercar.html
> file.
>
> --Dave Althoff, Jr.
*** Considering Dave's knowledge on this subject, I suspect his site
will be the one to watch for information in the future. It's nice to see a
relatively new coaster site that has some originality to it. There are too
many "personal" coaster sites out there now, many of which are nice
graphically but have litle information. Not that they aren't well
done, only that there are so many that are the same.
David has at least decided to cover topics less well-represented on
The Internet. I like this because I try to strive for the same thing on
the CEC pages and applaud those that do similar.
Richard Bonner
Managing Director:
The Coaster Enthusiasts of Canada
www.chebucto.ns.ca/~ak621/CEC/CEC.html