Coney Island Death?
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know what happened since the tv news will wait till the very end of the
program to give a 2 minute report on anything they advertised. So
obsessed with their ratings, they make up half the stuff anyway. You
know if some guy undid his restraints on a coaster and tried to ride
standing, its "A man died on the --- Roller Coaster when his restraints
unlocked and he fell out, it is not known why the restraints opened."
Tim
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departments are trying to get mileage of an admittedly tragic accident.
However, it was not a coaster.
Chillforce
woman into the air. Last night I heard she was critical but this morning I
found oout she died. 8 others were injured.
In the meantime, on the news, Guiliani was saying that there is always the
chance for somehing to happen on these rides, that is why they are called
thrill rides. This was not the brightest statement that the mayor of NY ever
made, then again, it just may be his brightest but wrong as usual.
ED
Brian Smith
postivity, and this certainly won't help...
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Shawn Ramsey
> news:19990612231502...@ng-fl1.aol.com...
> > It seems that the couplings on one of the cars broke and sent a 17 year
> old
> > woman into the air. Last night I heard she was critical but this morning I
> > found oout she died. 8 others were injured.
> >
> > In the meantime, on the news, Guiliani was saying that there is always the
> > chance for somehing to happen on these rides, that is why they are called
> > thrill rides. This was not the brightest statement that the mayor of NY
Why? That statement is pretty accurate imo. RC's and thrill rides in
general are not 100% safe. There is always a chance something could go
horrible wrong, although it doesn't happen very often. Maybe he should
have said something along the lines of shutting down coney island
because it is too dangerous....
CoasterKon
and they should be. People don't go on them to risk their lives. They want to
simulate something risky, but they don't want it to be actually risky. If they
want to really push the edge and do something more risky, then they can try
skydiving or something along those lines (which I personally want to do, by the
way). Parks and the appropriate government agencies should ensure that these
rides are safe. Yes, the rides are mechanical, and just like with airplanes
things will occasionally go wrong. The airlines and the government regulate
and inspect for the safety of the flying public, but accidents still happen.
These things are unfortunate, and let's hope that they stop happening.
>In the meantime, on the news, Guiliani was saying that there is always the
>> > chance for somehing to happen on these rides, that is why they are called
>> > thrill rides.
Instead of saying this, Guiliani should have pushed for stronger ride
inspections at Coney Island. After all, this "park" is within his city limits.
>RC's and thrill rides in
>general are not 100% safe.
Nothing will ever be 100% safe. Not even surfing the Internet in the comfort
of your own home. A part of the Russian space station that didn't burn up in
the atmosphere could come crashing through your roof and land just a few feet
from you. Then your house will probably catch fire. Life is a risk. You just
never know. The more chances you take, the more fun you will have.
>Maybe he should
>have said something along the lines of shutting down coney island
>because it is too dangerous....
If you apply this logic to life, then we will all just sit on our couches and
not do anything. Driving is dangerous. Skydiving is dangerous. Walking along
a busy road is dangerous. Going to Coney Island is nothing compared to these
other activities. And I don't feel that that "park" is too dangerous. If I
did, I wouldn't go there. I am a roller coaster nut, and I think that the
Cyclone is one of the best in the world. They don't build them like that
anymore.
CoasterKon Conrad - proud attendee of Knoebel's for 32 years and
counting...http://www.knoebels.com/.
Chillforce
>because it is too dangerous....
>
Then you know nothing about the Coney Island amusement area. It is quite safe
and well lit and protected. Maybe he should close down all of NY if that is the
argument.. Rides do give in to metal fatigue as well as any other type of
machinery, but there is supposed to be safety. Where did you ever get this idea
that a ride is not to be as safe as humanly possible?
It was just an ignorant remark by a very arrogant and ignorant politician,
simple and plain.
ED
Steve Urbanowicz
>Why? That statement is pretty accurate imo. RC's and thrill rides in
>general are not 100% safe. There is always a chance something could go
>horrible wrong, although it doesn't happen very often. Maybe he should
>have said something along the lines of shutting down coney island
>because it is too dangerous....
You're completely right. Rides and roller coasters are NOT 100% completely
safe. Neither is sleeping, crossing the street, reading a book, watching TV,
walking around the house, sitting around the house, etc. That, Shawn, might
have been one of the most irresponsible statements I have ever seen a so-called
enthusiast make! Life, in general, is not 100% completely safe!
Because so many people feel the way your statement implies YOU do, parks
actually make rides even safer than day-to-day activities. Insurance
regulations and liability laws encourage this. NO park wants to have an
accident, the bad publicity alone is enough to make them go the extra mile it
takes to ensure that everything is safer and in better shape than most things
we encounter in our daily lives. The AIRLINES should only be as precautious as
the amusement industry!!!
As for your final ignorant statement regarding the danger of Coney Island,
obviously you know nothing about the area. Two self-contained amusement areas
exist, Astroland and Deno's Wonder Wheel Park. Both adhere to all the safety
methods found in any other park, including Walt Disney World. As for the rest
of the amusement area, well, those rides are akin to traveling carnival rides,
which while safe, do have an admittedly higher rate of accident. The accident
at Coney this weekend took place on one of these fly-by-nighters. Don't be
condemning the entire amusement area!
One other thing. I ride roller coasters and other rides because I KNOW they
are safe. Others, especially the uninformed, obviously ride them because they
do indeed think that there is a danger involved, and are looking for some sort
of sick cheap thrill. You appear to fall into the latter category.
I'm very saddened when I see a member of the general public express views such
as yours. When an enthusiast does it, I really have to wonder just where that
enthusiasts brain is.
Steve
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Scott Amspoker
>It wasn't a coaster, it was a Himalaya spinning ride. The sensational news
>departments are trying to get mileage of an admittedly tragic accident.
Another Himalaya tragedy. *sigh* That ride is getting a pretty bad
reputation these days. I wonder if all those Himalayas out there are just
getting old.
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Sandy A. Nicolaysen
Coney Island Ride
Derails; 9 Injured
A Coney Island amusement park ride jumped its track and injured nine
people, one seriously, late last night, authorities said.
Emergency workers rushed to free the most seriously injured victim, a
teenage girl who became trapped when the Himalaya ride at the corner
of Stillwell Ave. and Bowery St. malfunctioned about 11:20 p.m.,
officials said.
Two of the victim's girlfriends said she had sneaked out of her home
to visit the famed Brooklyn park, which drew a large weekend crowd
last night.
The girl was freed by firefighters and rushed by ambulance to Lutheran
Medical Center, where she was in serious condition.
Four other victims were taken to Coney Island Hospital, and four were
treated at the scene, officials said.
Police were investigating what caused the ride to go off the track.
Sandy A. Nicolaysen
Sunday, June 13, 1999
It Passed Inspection
By MICHAEL O. ALLEN
Daily News Staff Writer
The Super Himalaya ride at Coney Island was last checked by Buildings
Department inspectors March 27, and it earned a clean bill of health,
city officials said yesterday. "The Buildings Department does the
best it can to make sure that the rides are properly maintained, in
good condition," Mayor Giuliani said. "But you can't inspect them each
and every day."
The Himalaya, at 1222 Bowery St., is owned by Norman Kaufman, who also
owns the nearby Jumbo Jet roller coaster, which injured five people in
two 1996 accidents.
Acting Buildings Commissioner Richard Visconti has ordered an
inspection of all of Kaufman's rides, as well as all Himalaya-type
rides throughout the city, said Paul Wein, a spokesman for Visconti.
Some other Coney Island tragedies:
Aug. 23, 1988 Peter Ellis, a 26-year-old maintenance worker at
Astroland Park in Coney Island, plunged to his death from the Cyclone
roller coaster during a lunchtime ride.
July 29, 1995 More than a dozen people were injured, including a
woman whose leg was severed, when the Hell Hole ride at Coney Island
broke down as it was spinning, tossing some riders into the air.
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Sunday, June 13, 1999
Ride Ends in Death
For Teen
Car derailment injures
her two sisters, 6 others
By PAUL SCHWARTZMAN, TOM RAFTERY and DON SINGLETON
Daily News Staff Writers
It was an electric spring evening on Coney Island — a crowded
Boardwalk, loud music, the aroma of cotton candy. A rite of passage
for young lovers and fun-seekers. But in the gaudy swirl of colored
lights and spinning, whirling rides, tragedy unexpectedly struck on
one of the amusement park's most popular attractions.
A thump and then screams of terror erupted from the Super Himalaya, a
lightning-fast bobsled-type ride, as car No. 19 lurched off the
undulating circular track in a shower of splintered wood.
Nadine Caban, 17, a young mother who stole a rare night out, leaving
her infant son with her relatives in their Canarsie home, was hurled
15 feet.
She came to rest pinned between the car and the ride's wall.
"What happened to me?" she repeatedly asked.
About an hour after the 11:30 p.m. accident Friday, Nadine was dead.
Eight other riders, including two of Nadine's sisters, were injured.
Four were taken to hospitals.
Yesterday, Nadine's family recounted how a night of innocent fun
turned tragic.
"We just wanted to have some fun on a Friday night," 19-year-old Elsie
Caban said yesterday morning. "She loved Coney Island. It was her
first time this year, and that was the first ride she took."
The three sisters — Elsie, Nadine and Nagalie, 23 — arrived at Coney
Island about 11 p.m. They walked straight to the Himalaya, where the
speakers were blaring hip-hop music spun by a deejay.
Elsie sat with Nagalie. Nadine got on by herself in a seat two cars
behind her sisters.
"The ride was going smoothly," said Elsie. "It was fine. I thought it
was over, but he said, 'We're gonna take you backward,' then it
started going really fast, and the whole roof fell on us. My sister
[Nagalie] and I got hit in the back and side, and we were screaming
for the ride to stop, but it kept going. And when it slowed down, we
jumped off."
Witnesses said a piece of wood scenery fell from the roof onto the
moving ride. Investigators said a coupling between two cars came loose
and fell onto the track, causing Nadine's car to flip and another to
land atop it. Nadine was thrown 15 feet through the air.
"At first, the cops told everybody to stay away, but then we got near
her and she kept saying, 'What happened to me?' We followed the
ambulance to Lutheran Hospital, and when she got out it looked like
she had a cut on her head and some blood on her neck, and she kept
saying, 'Please stay with me,' and asking for her Aunt Miriam," Elsie
said.
"About a half-hour later, somebody came and told us she had passed
away." Officials placed the time of death at 12:35 a.m.
Nadine Caban, mother of a 10-month-old boy, Kahjuan, would have been
18 in two weeks.
Family members said Nadine wanted to be a hairdresser and often
braided her friends' hair for fun and practice.
Yesterday, 20 of her friends crowded into the Cabans' apartment on E.
99th St., weeping as they tried to comfort each other.
"She was at her cousin's house for dinner," said Nadine's uncle John
Rodriguez. "It's the first time she's taken a break — she's always
with her son."
Her cousin Ernest Valentin stood near the Himalaya yesterday, watching
as police and Buildings Department inspectors examined the ride.
"The hardest thing is not knowing what happened. You just want the
answers," he said.
In the amusement park yesterday under gray skies, Arcadio Ramos stood
with his son, Arcadio, 9, near the Himalaya, which was cordoned off
with yellow police tape.
"It makes me think twice about putting my child on any of these
rides," he said.
James McCartney
The texas himalaya accident:
http://members.aol.com/rides911/1998.htm
Also check this out:
"Ironically, the girl was riding in car number 19, the same number car from
which another teenage girl was thrown to her death in a Himalaya accident
in Texas last year."
http://members.aol.com/rides911/accidents.htm
James McCartney asynth <at> io <dot> com