What do you think is the scariest moment you've ever seen on screen?
I'll start it off with (and I find myself plagued with many, many choices)
1) In the original The Haunting, when Julie Harris and Claire Bloom are
terrorized in the dark in their bedroom. All during the scene, Julie Harris
complains that Clair Bloom is painfully squeezing her hand--then the lights
come on and you realize each woman is on the opposite sides of the room! So
WHAT was holding Harris's hand? AWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 1) In the original The Haunting, when Julie Harris and Claire Bloom
are
> terrorized in the dark in their bedroom. All during the scene,
Julie Harris
> complains that Clair Bloom is painfully squeezing her hand--then the
lights
> come on and you realize each woman is on the opposite sides of the
room! So
> WHAT was holding Harris's hand? AWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But why didn't Clair Bloom just say it wasn't her the first time Julie
Harris complained?
I'm not a fan of scary movies but here are a few scenes that come to
mind:
1] When Richard Dreyfus is investigating the submerged boat in "Jaws"
and the decapitated head scares him.
2] The scene in "Sixth Sense" when the boy is in the bathroom and the
female ghost in the bathrobe [the first ghost we actually see] quickly
cuts across the screen from right to left. This sequence is an
excellent example of how music is actually used to enhance the scare.
3] The scary toy clown sequence in "Poltergeist."
4] The moment in "Jurassic Park" when the girl falls through the
ceiling tile and the 'raptor jumps up and just misses her as they pull
her to safety. I saw that movie three times in the theatre and each
time that scene made my pull my legs up involuntarily...LOL!
5] The sequence in "Aliens" where Sigourney Weaver and the girl are
sleeping in the medical examination room and Ripley wakes up to find
the Paul Riser character has placed a hatchling in the room with her.
--
Matthew "mentioning more than my share" Sullivan
Track Record: 261
I'm not adequately conveying the sequence so forgive me. As I remember it,
neither women know they're not clutching each other's hand as it's dark and
they think they're next to each other.
Loved your choices, by the way.
No worries...not having seen either version I can still get the gist
of how that must have played out on screen. I was really just being a
smart-ass as usual.
> Loved your choices, by the way.
Thanks!
--
Matthew "mamoosh" Sullivan
Track Record: 261
Although, the girl running across the screne as the boy in 6th Sense pees was
QUITE scary. There are some scenes in Lord of the Rings that are pretty
intense and scared the hell out of me, but I don't wanna give anything away.
:-) Horses, evil, "precious," mirror of water, for those who have seen the
movie.
-Glenn Dobbs
1. Steel - Expedition GeForce
1. Wood - Shivering Timbers
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>In Halloween H20 (trashy, stupid movie) there is one scene where Jamie Lee
>Curtis (someone correct me) is in a public restroom on the side of the road
>somewhere and she is sitting in a stall, or SOMEONE is sitting in a stall
>looking out the crack. Then, they look down, and back up the stall and you see
>just see these deep black eyes staring back at the screen. <shivers>
Its some lady and her daughter who is in the rest area.
I actually loved H2O. Its my second favourite of the Halloween
movies.
Max
>After seeing the incredibly decrepid Santa Claus at my local mall today, I
>found myself in a decidedly horrific frame of mind. Which leads me to ask (and
>I know this is so off-topic I shouldn't even be mentioning it's off-topic):
Funny thing here is that the local mall Santas were being
investigated! One was showing up to work drunk. Another one was
accused of child molestation (pinching the girls on their bottoms) and
the charges were dropped. The third one was accused of something
else. Conduct unbecoming Santa is what the paper said?
>What do you think is the scariest moment you've ever seen on screen?
Divine eating dog poop.
Seriously, I love horror flicks and it takes a lot to scare me. But,
I do have my moments....(there's going to be more than one here...)
1) the end of Halloween. "Was it the boogeyman?" "As a matter of
fact, it was." You've seen Michael Myers go over the balcony and fall
to the ground. After you hear Loomis and Strode exchange those lines,
the grassy area where he landed is empty. That GREAT Halloween theme
kicks in and you hear Michael breathing. Credits roll. Excellent.
Still my number one horror flick of all time.
2) One of the few times that I jumped in a movie was during the
Howling. The werewolf jumps out at somebody. The whole theatre
screams. I had a drink in my hand and didn't realize I had tossed the
contents over my shoulder. The kid behind me leans up and asks me if
I have a drink in my hand. I look down and see the empty cup. I ask
him why. He says...Its back here all over me.
3) Near the end of The Entity, when they've got the ghost/demon in
the glass container and the whole thing explodes. Never expected that
to happen.
4) The Exorcist..when Ellen Burstyn is standing under the attic with
the candles and she hears that noise coming from it and the flames on
the candles "explode". Never watch this movie by yourself! I was
watching it by myself at my apartment during college and this scene
came one! My neighors rattled some dishes in their apartment at the
same time. I came off that couch and cut the tv off. It all happened
at the same time!
Other candiates that have frightened me...Prince of Darkness, The
Omen, Laura Palmer's killing on Twin Peaks/TPFWWM, Phantasm, and the
first Nightmare on Elm Street.
Max
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Nightmares I tell you, Nightmares!
:)
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1) And I know I will get flamed for this but I don't care. But the
"Blair Witch Project" scared the crap out of me! That last scene in the
house....i was shaking something awful! I have always had a fear of the
woods! I have never been so scared in a movie.
2) And that damn clown part in "Poltergiest." Ugghhhh!!! I HATE CLOWNS
with a passion!! And that "Old Man" was freakin crazy also!
3) And the Halloween movies all scared me!!! I never did like Micheal
Myers!!!
4) And Texas Chainsaw Massacre was a very disturbing movie!!! Ugghhhh!
Heck, any scene with Paul Reiser in it is enough to scare the crap out
of me. Whoa!
Phillip
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> What do you think is the scariest moment you've ever seen on screen?
I couldn't limit it to just one, so in no particular order:
1) Texas Chainsaw Masacre- The moment Leatherface drags the girl into the
"slaughter" room and SLAMS that sliding metal door... Just a tad unnerving. Great
flick.
2) The end of Invasion of The Body Snatchers (remake)- The very last scene at the
end of the movie, when the woman is approaching Donald Sutherland, and as they
approach one another she thinks everything's okay and has a smile on her face...
Don't want to give away the rest... One of THE best endings of a horror flick, no
question. I especially love how they go to black to end it. Another "must see"
horror flick.
3) Jaws- The head popping out of the boat. To this day, probably the most
powerful "Jockey Sacrifice" I've ever had. Saw it at the drive in on a MASSIVE
screen. :-)
4) Burnt Offerings- ANY scene involving the grinning man with sun glasses...
CREEPY! (Not a well known flick starring Karen Black and Oliver Reed, but those
who know it...know it)
5) Phantasm- The final scene of the movie... "BOY!!!"
6) Friday The 13th- The dream sequence at the end of the movie...got me GOOD!
7) Aliens- When Newt's in the water pipe type area and the alien rises out of the
water behind her...not really "horror" perse, but what a hell of a movie!
That's just a few... And you may as well throw in The Exorcist and my personal fav
of straight horror films: Halloween, beginning to end.
Dave
You wanna know something really freaky? I first saw that movie when I
was around 8 years old. I'm 16 now, but back then, I was verrrrrry
easily scared by those types of things. I had the SAME EXACT CLOWN
DOLL in my room! Needless to say, the night after I watched that
movie, I took the clown doll and threw it into my sister's room.
-2001: A Space Odyssey
Bowman and Poole suspect something is wrong with HAL (the ship's
Heuristically programmed ALgorhythimic Computer). To prevent him overhearing
their converstaion, they isolate themselves in one of Discovery's (the ship)
maintenence pods (I can't remember which one, it's the middle one, so it's
name starts with B...). They turn off all the communications jazz and test
out if HAL can hear them. Now, the way this is filmed is what makes it
freaky. You hear them talking (because you're in the pod with them at that
point). You can see Bowman and Poole on either side of the screen, and HAL's
ominous red eye staring at the centre of the pod, in the middle of the
screen through the window in the pod. All straight cuts here, the camera
cuts to a shot of HAL's console. Then it shows what HAL sees. You see the
overview of the pod bay. Then you see a close up of HAL's eye. Then it goes
to a CLOSE UP OF BOWMAN AND POOLE'S LIPS. THEN IT GOES BACK TO HAL'S EYE. OH
MY GOD. HAL is *reading their lips* and you just KNOW it's gonna get bad.
(Of interest, did anyone notice that in First Contact, the console that
Worf has to use to eject the Deflector says AE-35 on it?! :) )
Iain
>4) And Texas Chainsaw Massacre was a very disturbing movie!!! Ugghhhh!
And that's the difference between scary movies or scenes from true
scary/horror movies and the disturbing, "in your face", slow-mo shots
of gratuitous violence designed to be "scary" in that OTHER kind of
"horror" flick, IMO.
Unexplainable phenomena, aliens, spooky stuff that sneaks up on the
viewer or jumps onto the screen to *scare* you can be effective and
entertaining. After the scene or movie ends, you walk away thinking,
"Wow -- that was really believable for a fictional/fantasy/
make-believe story." You were entertained because the film was
well-crafted and you feel pretty confident that the fantastic,
incredible beings portrayed in the movie aren't waiting for you in the
backseat of your car or behind that hedge.
Back in 1972 Dooley and I went with some friends to see one of Wes
Craven's earliest "horror" films, "The Last House on the Left". It
may have been his first stab at the genre (sorry), and the version we
watched was certainly the original full, uncut film that cult movie
worshippers seek out today. We were in college and saw it the week it
opened. At age 19 you could get into any movie with ID -- even porno
wasn't "21 and over" by then (I know the movie rating system existed
but it was somewhat different back then). I had already seen films
like "A Clockwork Orange", "Straw Dogs", etc., and couldn't imagine
that any stupid movie would upset me because of violence or sexual
content. I was wrong. I should have walked out of the theater and,
believe me, today I *would* if by chance I was faced with the same
situation. But I was a "cool, hip, sophisticated adult," so I stuck
it out. Idiocy on my part, but, then again, this film was the first
to use the promo, "Keep telling yourself -- It's Only a Movie." How
could I disagree, even if it *was* an awful one?
Now, trust me -- the "reality" behind the plot lines of films like
"The Last House on the Left" and "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" is
stretched to the limit. I don't believe that the filmmakers' goal in
this type of movie is to convince the audience that they, too, will be
innocent victims of evildoers waiting for the opportunity to pounce.
If that was the objective they'd tighten up the plot and dialogue to
really reel you in, I'd think. Designing an entire movie around how
many times and ways you can show extreme cruelty and violence is a
cheap, gross and unentertaining way of "scaring" people. I may be
shocked and disgusted, but not scared and certainly not entertained.
I realize some people enjoy these films and that's fine. I just don't
need to watch spurting blood, mutilation of bodies, torture and
grotesque deaths accompanied by a soundtrack of bad music and non-stop
screaming -- peppered with inane dialogue -- for two hours.
"The Last House on the Left" didn't scar me for life. But from that
day forward, it *did* make me apprehensive about how often graphic,
violent scenes appear in "regular" films. Since that stuff sells
movies, other filmmakers have upped the ante in terms of the number of
violent, graphic scenes that are needed to get a point across. Stuff
that Hitchcock left mostly to the viewer's imagination is now provided
for him/her in brilliant Technicolor with Dolby Digital Sound.
Compare the shower scene killing of Marion in "Psycho" with the
murders of Mari and Phyllis in the woods in "The Last House on the
Left" and you'll understand what I'm getting at. Which *scares* you
more? Which *disturbs* you more? Craven ain't no Hitchcock, the way
I see it.
Due to my wariness I know I've missed some classic films because I
just didn't want to watch the disturbing parts. The advent of VCRs/
DVDs allows me to selectively view some movies I would never have
watched in a theater. Dooley and MCB are big film fans and can
"pre-screen" them and let me know when to go to take a bathroom break.
I would never for a moment suggest that films should not be made or
should be banned because of violence or sexual content. I don't
believe that most young persons or adults who watch even the most
graphic of these movies turn into a murdering, raping psychopaths.
But I personally do not find movies of this particular genre (shock
horror?) to be worth watching, from any perspective.
Dana Schwartz
doo...@ix.netcom.com
Let's see. I FINALLY saw The Excorcist about 3 months ago. I was
over my friends house....very late. It was around 1 AM, and he just
said that he rented Excorcist: The Version You've Never Seen. So I
said what the heck. I love horror movies! I tell you...to this day,
I'm still scared shitless from that movie! I rented the original
version a few days later, and one of the SCARIEST scenes ever was
ripped right out of it! If you guys saw the uncut version, you'll
know what I'm talking about. It's Reagan's Spider Walk down the
stairs backwards. Add that along with the subliminal Satan pictures
appearing in the house around the same part of the movie, it climax's
with the spider-walk, and you SCREAM! I mean, there we are, all the
lights in the house off, 1 AM, big-screen TV. HOLY SHIT! WHAT THE
HELL WAS THAT?! Man...I have yet to recover from that movie.
Absolutely horrifying. It get's my vote for all-time scariest.
But other than that movie, I have to agree with others.
The clown from IT was pretty bad.
The Poltergeist clown scene was really bad.
Several scenes in The Sixth Sense had some scary moments in it.
-Cory Patrick
--major snippage--
> I would never for a moment suggest that films should not be made or
> should be banned because of violence or sexual content. I don't
> believe that most young persons or adults who watch even the most
> graphic of these movies turn into a murdering, raping psychopaths.
> But I personally do not find movies of this particular genre (shock
> horror?) to be worth watching, from any perspective.
I agree with you, Dana, and that is why I prefer movies [such as "The
Sixth Sense"] that rely more on psychology and drama than blood and
guts to scare the audience. I have yet to see a single "Halloween,"
"Scream," "Friday the 13th" or "Nightmare on Elm Street" because I
just don't find senseless blood and gore entertaining. However if
someone else *does* enjoy those types of movies fine with me.
> 2) The end of Invasion of The Body Snatchers (remake)- The very last
scene at the
> end of the movie, when the woman is approaching Donald Sutherland,
and as they
> approach one another she thinks everything's okay and has a smile on
her face...
> Don't want to give away the rest... One of THE best endings of a
horror flick, no
> question. I especially love how they go to black to end it. Another
"must see"
> horror flick.
Good pick! Did you also happen to notice the man in the VERY
beginning of the film running through the streets yelling about the
invasion is the "last survivor" from the original movie? Nice touch!
> 4) Burnt Offerings- ANY scene involving the grinning man with sun
glasses...
> CREEPY! (Not a well known flick starring Karen Black and Oliver
Reed, but those
> who know it...know it)
A tame movie by today's standards but this was one freaky movie when
it came out. I remember being scared by that tall creepy man in
sunglasses, too....especially when he was pushing that coffin!
Other than that I have to think Alien probably got me the most when I first saw it.
1. Alien-LOTS of scary moments,
especially when the evil creature is
right in Sigourney's face.
2. The Exorcist-This movie still freaks me
out when I watch it. What an evil little
girl.
3. Phantasm-Watch out for the flying
balls! Run! Run! RUN!
4. Nightmare on Elm Street-"Whatever
you do, do NOT fall asleep!"
5. The Shining-I really like the part when
Danny (what was he thinking?!) goes
into the "forbidden" hotel room (room 217?). Both lead actors
are awesome in the film.
6. Halloween-What's Halloween without
Michael Meyers? The music is also
very creepy.
7. Madonna, Truth or Dare-This should be
classified as a horror film. :)
8. The Thing (Modern version)-The scene
of the creature coming out of the
stomach is truly frightening. I also like
the scene of the spider with a man's
head crawling on the floor. Yuck. The
part when everyone has their blood
tested is full of suspense!
9. Friday the 13th-"Good boy, Jason."
I haven't seen this film for years, but I
do remember it being full of suspense.
10. Britney, Live- Sorry, couldn't resist. :)
Kevin
> What do you think is the scariest moment you've ever seen on screen?
Well it may not be the scariest moment, but I'm sort of surprised it hasn't
been mentioned yet. The ending to Carrie. If you've seen it, you'll know
what I mean.
>10. Britney, Live- Sorry, couldn't resist. :)
Damn, Kevin, I was gonna end that treatise that I wrote about slasher
films with: "BTW -- the scariest, most horrific thing I've seen on TV
lately was "Britney, Live!"
Honest I was! Scariest scene? When SHE TALKED!!! :-O
Dana Schwartz (if the kid had any talent I'd forgive her bad taste in
everything else)
doo...@ix.netcom.com
LOL!
Still, it's a pretty cheap trick. It's just a jump-out 'gotcha'. It struck
me as out of place with the rest of the movie.
-Wolf
Hmm...
1.) Parts of 'Evil Dead II' really creeped me out. The basement scenes and
some of Ash looking around outside. Got to give them 'a hand'. <G>
1a.) 'Evil Dead' had some moments, too. A couple of scenes also illustrated
why they weren't the 'Hungry Dead' or the 'Scary Dead'. Some of the things
they did to Ash were just *evil*.
2.) Dream sequences of 'American Werewolf in London'
3.) Testing the blood in Carpenter's 'The Thing'. Tension you can cut with a
knife. Still not quite as paranoid as the book, although the ending captures
the feeling perfectly.
4.) I also remember a scene from 'Creature from the Black Lagoon' where the
Creature swims up into the screen. Freaked me out the first time I saw it.
-Wolf
In no particular order:
1. Reagan's spiderwalk down the stairs in The Exorcist: The Version You've
Never Seen, and the added subliminal moments in the same movie.
2. I seem to remember gripping my armrests rather tightly during the initial
T-Rex attack in Jurassic Park.
3. The clown from Poltergeist that kept me up most of the night with the
lights on even though I didn't have any clowns in my room.
4. The shot of Mike (I think) facing the wall at the end of the Blair Witch
Project made me feel as if I'd swallowed a very large ice cube.
5. I won't post any spoilers about the best movie of the year, but a couple
of scenes in Lord of the Rings made me jump, causing my kids to laugh at me.
6. Tina's death in A Nightmare on Elm Street. Those cuts appearing on her,
an unseen Freddy lifting her into the air, her trip up the wall and across
the ceiling.... I had never seen anything like that before. That scene
still freaks me out even with the hundreds of horror movies I've watched.
7. I hate to admit that this one has to be the worst because in repeated
viewings I have discovered that it really was not very scary, but for some
reason, the whole opening sequence of Twilight Zone: The Movie really had me
on edge (I was about 13 when I saw it) and when he said, "You wanna see
something *really* scary?" and then turned around and changed into a
monster -- well, I screamed and got the shakes for about 10 minutes. I
don't know what I was expecting to happen, but apparently it was not that!
8. In Fright Night when Amy looks up and she's got that HUGE mouth full of
sharp teeth. Was NOT expecting that one!
9. The ultra-chilling final line of My Bloody Valentine, following the
maniacal laughter "Daddy's gone away, Harry Warden made him pay." Doesn't
sound scary, but the way the actor delivered the line sent chills down my
spine.
>10. Britney, Live- Sorry, couldn't resist. :)
HEY NOW!
I just saw Britney live last night in DC. The MCI Center was packed!
I've never seen special effects like that - fire, explosions, rain,
hollograms, etc.
Britney even bungee-jumped from the top of the arena. Ever seen Tomb
Raider where Lara is hanging from two bungee cords, and she's
flipping? That's what Britney was doing. It was such an awesome
show.
I'm going to marry her.
-
Kip Ross
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>Britney even bungee-jumped from the top of the arena. Ever seen Tomb
>Raider where Lara is hanging from two bungee cords, and she's
>flipping? That's what Britney was doing. It was such an awesome
>show.
But.... did the goods slip from the skimpy shirt, that is the question?!
> I just saw Britney live last night in DC. The MCI Center was
packed!
> I've never seen special effects like that - fire, explosions, rain,
> hollograms...
...lip-syncing.
> Britney even bungee-jumped from the top of the arena. Ever seen
Tomb
> Raider where Lara is hanging from two bungee cords, and she's
> flipping? That's what Britney was doing. It was such an awesome
> show.
But would she have to resort to that if she had talent?
> I'm going to marry her.
She's really a man?
--
Matthew "just giving Kip a hard time" Sullivan
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She does have talent.
Is just that most singers' talent can't be enhanced up by a surgeon.
-Wolf
Moosh, have you seen "The Changeling"? That is a GREAT, yet lesser-known
horror film that relies very much on drama and little on blood. It's got
a lot of great moments, like the seance scene (Help! Help! Help! Help!),
but the one that really gets me is the rubber ball scene. A little
rubber ball bounces down a flight of stairs. George C. Scott takes the
ball and puts it in his desk. Some time later, the ball bounces down the
stairs again, and he finds the desk empty. So, this time, he drives
across town, gets on a bridge, and drops the ball into the river. Upon
returning to the house, he opens the door, and the wet ball once again
bounces down the staircase and meets him in the foyer. Doesn't sound
like much, but works well within the framework of the story.
Glenn Payne
When the first Alien movie came out, I was a teenager in rural South Dakota.
It was playing at the Drive In. I wanted to see it so badly, and no one
else would go. So I went to the Drive In alone.
Creepy movie, when you're an impressionable young man, and you're in a car
alone in the dark. There were several scares in the movie, but the one that
nearly did me in was during the hunt in the air ducts. The scanners show
the alien near Dallas, but he can't see it. He turns, and his flashlight
shows the alien right behind him. Yikes!
On the trip home, a tumbleweed blew across the road in front of the car. I
nearly had a seizure.
--
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Absolutely excellent horror film, and one of the geniunely scary films
that I've ever seen.
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The seance scene is absolutely chilling, as is the scene at the other
house where the woman's daughter imagines that a young boy is trying to
come through her bedroom floor.
>She does have talent.
roflmao!
thats a good one
Al
It's like what George Harrisson said about the spice girls...you can
watch them and just turn the volume off! That's why Jenny McCarthy
looked so great in playboy but is the ugliest person if you see her
live...I'm so glad her 15 minutes are up! Hey...isn't brittney's
clock running out too?
Have Fun!
Paul B. Drabek
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". . .things beyond your strength, search not."
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Merry Christmas!
Roland
"Paul A. Kossa" <PAKcy...@webtv.net> wrote <snip>
Kip Ross wrote:
> HEY NOW!
>
> I just saw Britney live last night in DC. The MCI Center was packed!
> I've never seen special effects like that - fire, explosions, rain,
> hollograms, etc.
>
> Britney even bungee-jumped from the top of the arena. Ever seen Tomb
> Raider where Lara is hanging from two bungee cords, and she's
> flipping? That's what Britney was doing. It was such an awesome
> show.
>
> I'm going to marry her.
Yeah.... She definitely gives Milli Vanilli a run for there money with
the lipsync crap. Not to mention the wonderful stories I heard about
the "Pepsi" sessions from the agency music producer who got to watch a
"polite" Britney try to sing in key. She said it was a fate worse than
having to work with Paula Abdul. Everything she sang was pitch
corrected in Pro Tools. Not dissing...just conveying a true story about
her.
I'll admit that her show was...uhm...interesting (at least the 32
seconds I watched)...but I prefer to play the backstage MP3 of her
displaying her true colors...now THAT is talent!
In sum, I'd agree with the #10 call by Kevin. :-)P
Dave
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>> I just saw Britney live last night in DC. The MCI Center was
>packed!
>> I've never seen special effects like that - fire, explosions, rain,
>> hollograms...
>
>...lip-syncing.
Actually, she didn't lip-sync at all. I know her entire CD inside and
out, and the songs definitely sounded different. She even coughed
into the mic once.
Now, the 2001 MTV awards, THAT was lip-synched.
>> Britney even bungee-jumped from the top of the arena. Ever seen
>Tomb
>> Raider where Lara is hanging from two bungee cords, and she's
>> flipping? That's what Britney was doing. It was such an awesome
>> show.
>
>But would she have to resort to that if she had talent?
Oh, you bitter old queen, you're just jealous because Britney is more
diva than you! ;-)
>> I'm going to marry her.
>She's really a man?
No, but she comes with Justin Timberlake. Bwahahaha.
>Matthew "just giving Kip a hard time" Sullivan
I like my time hard, amongst other things...
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Kip Ross
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> Actually, she didn't lip-sync at all. I know her entire CD inside
and
> out, and the songs definitely sounded different. She even coughed
> into the mic once.
Coughing into the mic proves the mic was actually open at some parts
of the show so she could talk to the audience. However it does not
prove she sang live. And even if she did she probably sang
"live-to-track" which means her vocals were augmented. I used to work
in the music biz...this is done A LOT with dance/pop oriented acts.
>>But would she have to resort to that if she had talent?
> Oh, you bitter old queen, you're just jealous because Britney is
more
> diva than you! ;-)
So is David Hamburger...big deal! If Britney has a carrer half as
long as Madonna's I'll gladly say you were right and I was wrong.
>>> I'm going to marry her.
>>She's really a man?
> No, but she comes with Justin Timberlake. Bwahahaha.
Justin Timberlake is really a woman...BWA HA HA HA!
>>Matthew "just giving Kip a hard time" Sullivan
> I like my time hard, amongst other things...
Finally...we agree on something ;-)
--
Matthew "glad Kip has a sense of humor" Sullivan
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On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 11:47:31 GMT, Flare <fl...@gis.net> wrote:
>Yeah.... She definitely gives Milli Vanilli a run for there money with
>the lipsync crap.
Was there a particular event she lipsync'ed at from which people
labeled her a 'lipsyncer'? I can only think of one time where I think
she was lipsyncing, and that was the 2001 MTV Awards. I know she was
genuinely singing when I saw her in concert.
But, I mean, how many of you, given the chance sing on live
television, would lipsync (to your own prerecorded voice) over truly
singing? I know I'd sure as hell be too scared to sing. Besides,
with Britney, it's a whole package. Sure, I admit, her vocals aren't
amazing, but they're decent. However, she has an incredible stage
presense, and that makes up for the decent vocals. Plus, a "Britney
Show" is more than just her singing, it's a theatrical performance (at
least, the one I saw was). You get catchy music with AWESOME special
effects, and a ton of surprises.
>Not to mention the wonderful stories I heard about
>the "Pepsi" sessions from the agency music producer who got to watch a
>"polite" Britney try to sing in key.
Wait, are you talking about the commercial shoot, or the recording
session? Because she wouldn't be singing at the commercial shoot. I
guess you mean the recording session, right?
>She said it was a fate worse than
>having to work with Paula Abdul. Everything she sang was pitch
>corrected in Pro Tools. Not dissing...just conveying a true story about
>her.
Hey! Another person who has heard of Pro Tools!
I'm an aspiring music producer, and I was talking to my friend who has
a record coming out (Christian Contemporary - definitely not my
style), but when I asked her about Pro Tools, she said that Pro Tools
is "out" and that the new program is Vegas. She said everybody's
using it and it's loads cheaper. Does this sound familiar to you? I
was in Best Buy tonite and I saw a program called Vegas Audio 2.0 for
sale at $199.99. Surely, this can't be the same program all the
acclaimed music producers are using, is it?
>I'll admit that her show was...uhm...interesting (at least the 32
>seconds I watched)...but I prefer to play the backstage MP3 of her
>displaying her true colors...now THAT is talent!
I agree! I love foul language! Another reason why Britney and I are
meant for eachother.
-
Kip Ross
kip...@att.net
(who tries to tone-down his language, as much as possible, in
his RRC posts)
> Was there a particular event she lipsync'ed at from which people
> labeled her a 'lipsyncer'? I can only think of one time where I think
> she was lipsyncing, and that was the 2001 MTV Awards. I know she was
> genuinely singing when I saw her in concert.
I'm not sure what it was (An HBO special???) but in a matter of 2.8
seconds, I was bummed to see the full blown "studio" one-take "live"
stunt. ALOT of bands do this, particularly with DVD's. Often times live
performances just aren't that good, and they'll go into the studio and
replace various content of a "Concert Performance" or in this case, create
a "live" sounding studio take to use for the live performance...most live
(professional) recordings these days are board mixes into DA 88's (8 - 16
stems usually).
> But, I mean, how many of you, given the chance sing on live
> television, would lipsync (to your own prerecorded voice) over truly
> singing? I know I'd sure as hell be too scared to sing. Besides,
> with Britney, it's a whole package. Sure, I admit, her vocals aren't
> amazing, but they're decent.
I beg to differ...she's right down there with Paula Abul in my book. No
offense of course, to her, or anyone who appreciate what she "does"...she's
just lacking any real serious pipes, imo. Virtually no range, from what I
understand as well, especially from what I've heard about her recent
sessions for the new Pepsi spots that'll be coming out shortly.
> However, she has an incredible stage
> presense, and that makes up for the decent vocals.
Absolutely! Though I didn't watch much of her show, as I said...but it was
quite elaborate, and she was working it hard, which I do truly appreciate.
> Plus, a "Britney
> Show" is more than just her singing, it's a theatrical performance (at
> least, the one I saw was). You get catchy music with AWESOME special
> effects, and a ton of surprises.
I'm very curious about her movie coming out..."Crossroads"? Apparently,
her folks are REAL sore about the content of the film...heh heh
> Wait, are you talking about the commercial shoot, or the recording
> session?
The recording session
> Because she wouldn't be singing at the commercial shoot. I
> guess you mean the recording session, right?
Correct...like any music video, unless it's a truly live, taped appearance
is lip synced... I find it fascinating how they're using interesting new
film techniques in the videos, and the lip syncing performance may be
spread up or slowed down to match the desired effect.
> Hey! Another person who has heard of Pro Tools!
Pro Tools is by far the "Industry Standard" so far as session based
recording means goes. It's really nice to be able to carry a disc into any
PT based studios and pull up your session, in tact, assuming the pluggins
are housed in the system your using at the time. I, myself, actually
prefer Digital Performer (3) by Mark of The Unicorn. As a composer, it's
far more integrated to what I need. The midi capabilities, though are
better now for Pro Tools, still pale next to the likes of DP3 (Digital
Performer), Logic, or Cubase. Hell, even Cakewalk holds it's own against
Pro Tool's midi.
Pro Tools IS solid as a rock though, with respect to non-linear lock/sync
issues. The Universal Slave Driver is phenominal; that and an aardsync,
and you're air tight! For true "audio" productions, it's tough to beat.
> I'm an aspiring music producer, and I was talking to my friend who has
> a record coming out (Christian Contemporary - definitely not my
> style), but when I asked her about Pro Tools, she said that Pro Tools
> is "out" and that the new program is Vegas. She said everybody's
> using it and it's loads cheaper. Does this sound familiar to you? I
> was in Best Buy tonite and I saw a program called Vegas Audio 2.0 for
> sale at $199.99. Surely, this can't be the same program all the
> acclaimed music producers are using, is it?
First off, regarding the music production and engineering/post industry,
PC's are out. Most professionals are using either Mac based work stations,
or Akai Pro products (MPC Units). I'm not familiar with Vegas, but if I
recall, I think it's PC based and made by Sonic Forge (?) who caters to
more mundane mentality with respect to creation of sound through loop
construction kits. It's not that I'm not a fan of them, I just happen to
be confident in my current system which consists of: A Mac G4 Dual 800
(AWESOME, amazing machine...burn discs while playing Quake...yeah! :-),
Mackie Digital 8 bus consol, Pro Tools 5.1 with the Digidesign 888 I/O's
(These are also industry standards for analog/digital signal
converters...clean are tasty), of course DP3...I've got a massive bay of
synths and samplers, but my cannons are: Akai S6000 (Removal interface is a
dream!), Kurzweil 2500XS, and my beloved Novation Supernova (Analog
modelling box..AWESOME!).
Kip, it's tough to go wrong for $200.00 for a "namebrand" piece of
sequencing software. If it's any indication, I think you can get Digital
Performer for roughly $500 now...but it was over a grand a year ago.
Software companies are struggling to move their product it seems. In any
case, in the music world, most producers and studios alike are rooted and
will continue to stay rooted in Pro Tools.
> but I prefer to play the backstage MP3 of her
> >displaying her true colors...now THAT is talent!
>
> I agree! I love foul language! Another reason why Britney and I are
> meant for eachother.
lol... yeah...not to mention she sure is a hotty...straight or gay, she's
tough to diss.
Good luck with the music aspirations, Kip! :-)
Dave
>I agree! I love foul language! Another reason why Britney and I are
>meant for eachother.
I forgot to add, the only girl that could steal me away from Ms.
Spears is the new, luscious, pop singer Willa Ford. She makes me
quiver. I found this bomb picture of her on the web, but the site is
down right now, so I can't get the URL. Her debut song is so hot.
"I wanna be bad, ya make me feel so good, I'm-a-losin' all my cool,
I'm about ta break the rules... I, I wanna be bad!"
Mmmmmm, Willa, Willa, you're sweet as vanilla... (Ha! I just made
that up)
Oh yeah, and I heard she's the daughter of former rocker Lita Ford.
-
Kip Ross
kip...@att.net
(sucker for a pop diva)
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