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bob2...@yahoo.com

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Feb 24, 2009, 11:50:32 AM2/24/09
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Does anyone have any news on the progress of construction of the ride?
I stopped by last week, and the train was still under plastic in the
brake run.
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kiddc...@gmail.com

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Feb 24, 2009, 12:29:01 PM2/24/09
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This is a prototype ride. It cannot be rushed, so stop asking! It will
be done when it is done.

msul...@ntmllc.com

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Feb 24, 2009, 1:14:32 PM2/24/09
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On Feb 24, 9:29 am, kiddcow...@gmail.com wrote:

> This is a prototype ride. It cannot be rushed, so stop asking! It will
> be done when it is done.

Kiddcow - Any idea if the park has made any progress on the ride or it
it'll open this year? Last I heard the train was still under a plastic
tarp in the brake run.

Thanks!

mOOSH

bob2...@yahoo.com

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Feb 24, 2009, 1:31:15 PM2/24/09
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Take a chill pill! If you don't like my question, don't answer. Since
when are you the Turns police?

steelforce

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Feb 24, 2009, 1:35:24 PM2/24/09
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On Feb 24, 12:29�pm, kiddcow...@gmail.com wrote:

it's not a prototype, it's a copy of a ride from yesteryear, plagued
with modern day issues like friction and flexability. The old ride
probably ripped the track apart and was rebuilt thru the season back
when labor was cheap and wood was cheaper. This one is being built to
last. Working thru the issues from the past that probably doomed the
perpetuity of rides like this is where they're probably running into
problems.

BaSSiStiSt

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Feb 24, 2009, 7:42:06 PM2/24/09
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"steelforce" <steel...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> plagued with modern day issues like friction and flexability.

Friction and flexability are modern day problems?

BaSSiStiSt

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Feb 24, 2009, 7:42:57 PM2/24/09
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<msul...@ntmllc.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 24, 9:29 am, kiddcow...@gmail.com wrote:

> mOOSH

Mooshie, have you heard anything about the Turns opening this year? I can't
wait any longer!!!!

Derek Gee

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Feb 24, 2009, 8:45:04 PM2/24/09
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"steelforce" <steel...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>it's not a prototype, it's a copy of a ride from yesteryear, plagued
>with modern day issues like friction and flexability.

The original ride had those issues as well, but the newer ride is "plagued"
with modern regulations, which mean they can't necessarily use the original
solutions.

>The old ride probably ripped the track apart and was rebuilt thru the
>season back
>when labor was cheap and wood was cheaper.

I can't speak for all the FT rides, but the Riverview Park ride did not
suffer from lots of ripped up wood. Riverview did paint the heavy wear
areas daily in order to minimize wear in certain sections of the barrel.
The park did do the usual off-season repair work, but I've been told it was
no more than the other coasters.

>This one is being built to last. Working thru the issues from the past that
>probably doomed the
>perpetuity of rides like this is where they're probably running into
>problems.

I think the bigger challenge is creating a train that meets all safety
regulations while maintaining adequate ride throughput. In a way, it's
kinda unfortunate that they can't use the original train design, but they
gotta keep everybody safe.

Derek


msul...@ntmllc.com

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Feb 24, 2009, 8:53:59 PM2/24/09
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On Feb 24, 4:42 pm, "BaSSiStiSt" <dreadpirateb...@sbcglobal.net>
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> Mooshie, have you heard anything about the Turns opening this year? I can't
> wait any longer!!!!

I know! I wish someone had some kind of update...last I heard the
train was parked in the brake run, covered with plastic. Maybe
Kiddcowboy knows something?

Tom Henderson

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Feb 24, 2009, 8:53:55 PM2/24/09
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"BaSSiStiSt" wrote >

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>> plagued with modern day issues like friction and flexability.
>
> Friction and flexability are modern day problems?

Uh oh. Here come the double-entendrés...

(see recent "Thunderhead" posts)


Tom Henderson

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Feb 24, 2009, 9:01:06 PM2/24/09
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"BaSSiStiSt" wrote
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>
> Mooshie, have you heard anything about the ***** opening this year? I
> can't wait any longer!!!!

Now you've all done it. Every time "that ride which shall not be named" is
brought up, it delays it's opening by another 6 months! Curses!
?


steelforce

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Feb 25, 2009, 5:39:00 AM2/25/09
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On Feb 24, 7:42�pm, "BaSSiStiSt" <dreadpirateb...@sbcglobal.net>
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> "steelforce" <steelfo...@aol.com> wrote in message

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> news:4a5a50d6-86f0-41b6...@o36g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
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> > plagued with modern day issues like friction and flexability.
>
> Friction and flexability are modern day problems?

I would probably say "lack" of friction causing the trains to go
faster. flexability because the trains are metal, not wooden. I
suspect the old trains were more wooden and thus, more fexible.

Also, if they had to paint heavy wear area "daily" there was
definately a ongoing problem that needed daily attention.

Todd Long

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Feb 25, 2009, 4:42:29 PM2/25/09
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On Feb 24, 7:42 pm, "BaSSiStiSt" <dreadpirateb...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> "steelforce" <steelfo...@aol.com> wrote in message

>
> news:4a5a50d6-86f0-41b6...@o36g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
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> > plagued with modern day issues like friction and flexability.
>
> Friction and flexability are modern day problems?

I don't know about Moosh but I think those are the things that doomed
us from the start.

Todd

msul...@ntmllc.com

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Feb 25, 2009, 5:41:09 PM2/25/09
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On Feb 25, 1:42 pm, Todd Long <toddl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't know about Moosh but I think those are the things that doomed
> us from the start.

cough::cough::spit::cough::cough

Bill Buckley

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Feb 27, 2009, 8:52:59 AM2/27/09
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> > >Does anyone have any news on the progress of construction of the ride?
> > >I stopped by last week, and the train was still under plastic in the
> > >brake run.
>
> >This is a prototype ride. It cannot be rushed, so stop asking! It will
>> be done when it is done.
>
>Take a chill pill! If you don't like my question, don't answer. Since
>when are you the Turns police?

If I'm reading that correct, that post was a rip on Coasterin' Steve's
former ride updates. But, YMMV here...

-B "I just calls em likes I sees em"

kat...@aol.com

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Feb 27, 2009, 10:56:41 AM2/27/09
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On Feb 24, 12:29�pm, kiddcow...@gmail.com wrote:

> It cannot be rushed, so stop asking! It will be done when it is done.

During the 2005 ECC trip, Vidampark management stated that Hullamvasut
was built in 1922 but didn't open until 2006, so Flying Turns isn't
the first coaster to have some lengthy delays before opening.

Ken Simmons

steelforce

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Feb 27, 2009, 11:01:09 AM2/27/09
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So you're saying that Knoebels ride will open in 2092? damn!

msul...@ntmllc.com

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Feb 27, 2009, 11:11:17 AM2/27/09
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On Feb 27, 7:56 am, kat...@aol.com wrote:

> During the 2005 ECC trip, Vidampark management stated that Hullamvasut
> was built in 1922 but didn't open until 2006, so Flying Turns isn't
> the first coaster to have some lengthy delays before opening.

You meant 1926, not 2006...correct?

kat...@aol.com

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Feb 27, 2009, 1:21:20 PM2/27/09
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You are correct, I did mean 1926.

Ken

mainelycoasters

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Feb 27, 2009, 6:15:28 PM2/27/09
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Look at disneys test track if you want to see some delays!

Rob Steere

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Feb 27, 2009, 8:24:09 PM2/27/09
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"mainelycoasters" <mainely...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>Look at disneys test track if you want to see some delays!
>

Though Test Track's opening delays were software-based issues, not
structural issues.
A closer Disney equivalent might be Rocket Rods at Disneyland, which even
though it opened on-time (as far as I know), it was plagued by structural
and stress issues, either in the vehicles or on the track (or both). It
closed not too long after it opened, never to return again.
(And noone's really sure whether the track is still able to support a
slow-moving attraction anymore, if they wanted to bring back some version of
the Peoplemover)

-Rob


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