Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Death of Geoffrey Thompson, Blackpool Pleasure Beach Managing Director, Confirmed (Scotsman.com News)

236 views
Skip to first unread message

Dana Schwartz

unread,
Jun 12, 2004, 9:15:20 PM6/12/04
to
Pleasure Beach Boss Dies at Amusement Park

By Kim Pilling, PA News

The managing director of Blackpool Pleasure Beach, Geoffrey Thompson,
has died suddenly after being taken ill at the world-famous amusement
park.

Mr Thompson, 67, was rushed to hospital from a private family function
at the park’s Paradise Room.

He was taken to Blackpool Victoria Hospital and was pronounced dead at
8.20pm last night.

Mr Thompson OBE dedicated his life to Blackpool Pleasure Beach after
he carried on the family legacy by becoming managing director of the
company in 1976.

He took over the reins following the death of his father, Leonard, who
had previously replaced his father-in-law and the park’s founder,
William George Bean.

Several family members are currently sitting on the company’s board of
directors.

It was under Mr Thompson’s leadership that exciting new rides were
added, including the spectacular 360° rollercoaster The Revolution,
and the UK’s only bobsleigh ride – The Avalanche.

1994 saw the biggest investment to date with the opening of the £12
million Pepsi Max Big One, the world’s tallest, fastest rollercoaster.

A statement from Blackpool Pleasure Beach said the park will remain
open and would “continue welcoming visitors as normal, as he would
have wanted”.

**************************************
Dana Schwartz

NoGodForMe

unread,
Jun 12, 2004, 10:33:15 PM6/12/04
to
Thoughts go out to him.

Seems he passed at the park doing what he loved.

I'm sure he will be remembered in a positive way.

A celebration if you will, just like president Reagan was recently
remembered in the USA.

William J. Buckley

unread,
Jun 12, 2004, 11:42:50 PM6/12/04
to
F**k Ronald Ray-gun -- this is the REAL tragedy of the Week!!!!

:-(

-b (very sad)


"Dana Schwartz" <DanaSc...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:8fanc09kvu1akm3bq...@4ax.com...


> Pleasure Beach Boss Dies at Amusement Park
>
> By Kim Pilling, PA News
>
> The managing director of Blackpool Pleasure Beach, Geoffrey Thompson,
> has died suddenly after being taken ill at the world-famous amusement
> park.
>
> Mr Thompson, 67, was rushed to hospital from a private family function
> at the park's Paradise Room.
>
> He was taken to Blackpool Victoria Hospital and was pronounced dead at
> 8.20pm last night.
>
> Mr Thompson OBE dedicated his life to Blackpool Pleasure Beach after
> he carried on the family legacy by becoming managing director of the
> company in 1976.
>
> He took over the reins following the death of his father, Leonard, who
> had previously replaced his father-in-law and the park's founder,
> William George Bean.
>
> Several family members are currently sitting on the company's board of
> directors.
>
> It was under Mr Thompson's leadership that exciting new rides were
> added, including the spectacular 360° rollercoaster The Revolution,

> and the UK's only bobsleigh ride - The Avalanche.

Walt Breymier

unread,
Jun 12, 2004, 11:40:12 PM6/12/04
to
On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:42:50 GMT, "William J. Buckley"
<vze1...@verizon.delete.net> wrote:

>F**k Ronald Ray-gun -- this is the REAL tragedy of the Week!!!!


Yeah, because some guy who ran a theme park is more important than
the man who ushered in a new era of peace by ending the cold war!

Buck, you're a nice guy, but you have a warped sense of
values/reality!

Walt Breymier

William J. Buckley

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 12:49:51 AM6/13/04
to
Walt,

If you think Geoffrey Thompson was merely "some guy who ran a theme park,"
you clearly didn't know the man! His compassion and dedication to his
customers was only a small part of the qualities that made up a great man!

...which I more than I can say for Ronnie, whom I'll always personally
despise for his mishandling of the onset of the AIDS pandemic in America. He
made my best friend (and hundreds of thousands of others) suffer needlessly
due to his BS politics and inability to be a take-charge leader!

So, if you ask me, Walt, it's not about what your job title was in life --
rather, what kind of person you were during that lifetime.

-b (BPB is NOT a theme park...)


"Walt Breymier" <wa...@camprrc.com> wrote in message
news:9d93d3639d6f1842...@unlimited.ultrafeed.com...

Walt Breymier

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 1:27:30 AM6/13/04
to
On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 04:49:51 GMT, "William J. Buckley"
<vze1...@verizon.delete.net> wrote:

>...which I more than I can say for Ronnie, whom I'll always personally
>despise for his mishandling of the onset of the AIDS pandemic in America. He
>made my best friend

<SNIP>


Thank you for taking the opportunity to prove my hypothesis that
liberals tend to choose their politics based solely on personal gain.

Walt Breymier

Douglas Kell

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 2:36:17 AM6/13/04
to
BBlackpool beach boss dies

The managing director of Blackpool Pleasure Beach has died after being
taken ill at the famous amusement park.
Geoffrey Thompson, 67, went to hospital from a private family function
at the park's Paradise Room on Saturday.

Mr Thompson OBE dedicated his life to the park, continuing a family
legacy by becoming boss of the company in 1976.

He took control after the death of his father, Leonard, who had


replaced his father-in-law and the park's founder, William George Bean.

Several family members sit on the company's board of directors.

Among the new rides added under Mr Thompson's stewardship was the UK's
only bobsleigh ride and a spectacular 360° rollercoaster.

A statement from Blackpool Pleasure Beach said the park would remain
open "as he would have wanted".

bBC News

"Dana Schwartz" <DanaSc...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:8fanc09kvu1akm3bq...@4ax.com...

> Pleasure Beach Boss Dies at Amusement Park
>
> By Kim Pilling, PA News
>
> The managing director of Blackpool Pleasure Beach, Geoffrey Thompson,
> has died suddenly after being taken ill at the world-famous amusement
> park.
>
> Mr Thompson, 67, was rushed to hospital from a private family function
> at the park's Paradise Room.
>
> He was taken to Blackpool Victoria Hospital and was pronounced dead at
> 8.20pm last night.
>
> Mr Thompson OBE dedicated his life to Blackpool Pleasure Beach after
> he carried on the family legacy by becoming managing director of the
> company in 1976.
>
> He took over the reins following the death of his father, Leonard, who
> had previously replaced his father-in-law and the park's founder,
> William George Bean.
>
> Several family members are currently sitting on the company's board of
> directors.
>
> It was under Mr Thompson's leadership that exciting new rides were
> added, including the spectacular 360° rollercoaster The Revolution,

> and the UK's only bobsleigh ride - The Avalanche.

Flare

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 8:46:08 AM6/13/04
to

I never find much reward in these types of squabbles, but I have to
agree that the "He made my best friend..." line was truly lame.

I was more disappointed that Buck simply couldn't have the class to keep
his personal beefs tethered in his initial reaction to the thread...very
Kharmic, imho. Regardless of his inescapable shortcomings as president,
everything I've read about Reagan in regards to his personal live lead
me to believe he was a hugely stand up individual.

No matters, though, Buck is most certainly entitled to spit on any grave
he so desires. I agree that he's still a nice guy...Hey, lets get him
into ACE again, and nominate him for Treasurer! :-)

Dave
- Bump, bump, bump your ass off!!1!

Greg V.G.

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 9:04:51 AM6/13/04
to
Buck,

I agree that this is a real tragedy. Mr. Thompson's influence of
spreading joy and delight to millions of people worldwide will be
truly missed. From my perspective, he was a giant of a human being
and had a profound influence on the entire industry. His clever
management of the Pleasure Beach and his love for the history of the
amusement industry were constantly evident.

From the information I've gathered, this loss took place during what
should be one of a family's happiest occasions, the marriage of a
child. Apparaently it occured at the reception for his daughter,
Amanda. What a tragic loss.

My thoughts go out to the Thompson family, the entire Blackpool
Pleasure Beach and Thompson company family during this time of
mourning. 2004 has not been kind to the wonderful Blackpool Pleasure
Beach. I know that I, along with a great number of attendees, will
miss his smiling face at the upcoming IAAPA convention.

May he rest in peace.

Greg VG

"William J. Buckley" <vze1...@verizon.delete.net> wrote in message news:<_2Qyc.18949$Xw3....@nwrdny03.gnilink.net>...


> F**k Ronald Ray-gun -- this is the REAL tragedy of the Week!!!!
>
> :-(
>
> -b (very sad)
>
>
> "Dana Schwartz" <DanaSc...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:8fanc09kvu1akm3bq...@4ax.com...
> > Pleasure Beach Boss Dies at Amusement Park
> >
> > By Kim Pilling, PA News
> >
> > The managing director of Blackpool Pleasure Beach, Geoffrey Thompson,
> > has died suddenly after being taken ill at the world-famous amusement
> > park.
> >

(snipped the remainder)

Nomicon

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 9:36:32 AM6/13/04
to
In article <P1Ryc.19020$Xw3....@nwrdny03.gnilink.net>,

"William J. Buckley" <vze1...@verizon.delete.net> wrote:

> Walt,
>
> If you think Geoffrey Thompson was merely "some guy who ran a theme park,"
> you clearly didn't know the man! His compassion and dedication to his
> customers was only a small part of the qualities that made up a great man!
>
> ...which I more than I can say for Ronnie, whom I'll always personally
> despise for his mishandling of the onset of the AIDS pandemic in America. He
> made my best friend (and hundreds of thousands of others) suffer needlessly
> due to his BS politics and inability to be a take-charge leader!
>
> So, if you ask me, Walt, it's not about what your job title was in life --
> rather, what kind of person you were during that lifetime.
>

So you knew Reagan personally? It's all about the gay agenda, right? All
the rest just means fuck?

RK

William J. Buckley

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 9:47:24 AM6/13/04
to

"Nomicon" <NoS...@hatespam.net> wrote:

> So you knew Reagan personally? It's all about the gay agenda, right? All
> the rest just means fuck?

Sorry, but where the hell does the "gay agenda" come into play? My friend
was hetrosexual, btw, and received tainted blood after a motorcycle
accident. His death left a wife and kids to fend for themselves. A real
tragedy if you ask me.


DeadAndRestless

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 10:32:34 AM6/13/04
to
> Thank you for taking the opportunity to prove my hypothesis that
>liberals tend to choose their politics based solely on personal gain.

Umm, you don't?

-
Alan

David Higgins

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 10:34:17 AM6/13/04
to

Walt Breymier wrote:

> Thank you for taking the opportunity to prove my hypothesis that
> liberals tend to choose their politics based solely on personal gain.

Now there's a pot-kettle-black hypothesis (e.g. tax cuts
biased toward those in the upper percentile tax brackets).

B&M ruLE

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 11:01:01 AM6/13/04
to
Pathetic!

"William J. Buckley" <vze1...@verizon.delete.net> wrote in message
news:_2Qyc.18949$Xw3....@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...

William J. Buckley

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 11:29:57 AM6/13/04
to
> Walt Breymier wrote:
>
> > Thank you for taking the opportunity to prove my hypothesis that
> > liberals tend to choose their politics based solely on personal gain.

> "David Higgins" <no...@nohow.net.invalid> wrote:
> Now there's a pot-kettle-black hypothesis (e.g. tax cuts
> biased toward those in the upper percentile tax brackets).

Dude - "trickle-down economics" ... or "Reaganomics" as they called it.
Yeah, brilliant idea. Give more money to the rich, so they'll spend more
money and it will benefit the poor. Errrr...yeah, right!


-b "those who have money have it because they don't spend it"


Dave Sandborg

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 12:49:31 PM6/13/04
to
Wow, amazing how a thread can be so easily hijacked. Unfortunately, I
find myself unable to resist participating in the political portion,
but out of respect for Mr. Thompson, let me start on topic and say that
his death is a sad occurrence for the amusement industry and enthusiast
community worldwide. And the manner of his death is so shocking--so
suddenly, and at a time of celebration. My heart goes out to the
family. The park has taken two severe blows in a short amount of time,
I hope they weather it as they have surely done through tough times in
the past.

Now, on to the off-topic stuff.

In article <e7d0ccf0e7b26708...@unlimited.ultrafeed.com>,
Walt Breymier <wa...@camprrc.com> wrote:

Yep, it's time that we liberals claimed the legacy of our true
spiritual leader, Ayn Rand!

Exercise: Compare and contrast Nancy Reagan's advocacy of expanding
stem-cell research to search for an Alzheimer's cure with Buck's
commentary above.

--
Dave Sandborg
Remove Spam-away to respond via e-mail.

BaSSiStiSt

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 1:35:46 PM6/13/04
to
On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:42:50 GMT, "William J. Buckley"
<vze1...@verizon.delete.net> wrote:

>F**k Ronald Ray-gun -- this is the REAL tragedy of the Week!!!!

What an embarrasment.

A. Ronald Reagan has NOTHING to do with Geoffrey Thompson.

B. Please let the body at least be in the ground a few days before
savaging people. I'm a liberal but this goes beyond partisanship into
simple spite and hatred. Didn't your mother teach you any manners?
Thanks for making me both ashamed to be an American AND to be a
liberal on this bright, sunny Sunday morning.

C. Well, at least we've given ARNR.COM yet ANOTHER reason to lampoon
RRC. Nice work, Buck.

As for the family of Mr. Thompson, I'd like to say my prayers go out
to them and that I'm sorry this thread got hijacked for something so
asinine as an American political debate.

Mike Miller

Emgee - Don't be that guy.

Locoboy

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 2:18:07 PM6/13/04
to
"William J. Buckley" wrote:

And that was President Reagan's fault? Who forced your friend to buy a
motorcycle?


Locoboy

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 2:19:07 PM6/13/04
to
"William J. Buckley" wrote:

> Dude - "trickle-down economics" ... or "Reaganomics" as they called it.
> Yeah, brilliant idea. Give more money to the rich, so they'll spend more
> money and it will benefit the poor. Errrr...yeah, right!

Or decrease taxes so people can do what they want with their own money. I
have no problem with that.

Locoboy

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 2:41:33 PM6/13/04
to
BaSSiStiSt wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:42:50 GMT, "William J. Buckley"
> <vze1...@verizon.delete.net> wrote:
>
> >F**k Ronald Ray-gun -- this is the REAL tragedy of the Week!!!!
>
> What an embarrasment.
>
> A. Ronald Reagan has NOTHING to do with Geoffrey Thompson.
>
> B. Please let the body at least be in the ground a few days before
> savaging people. I'm a liberal but this goes beyond partisanship into
> simple spite and hatred. Didn't your mother teach you any manners?
> Thanks for making me both ashamed to be an American AND to be a
> liberal on this bright, sunny Sunday morning.
>
> C. Well, at least we've given ARNR.COM yet ANOTHER reason to lampoon
> RRC. Nice work, Buck.

I agree Mike. There were about 100 people protesting in San Francisco
against President Reagan's policies last Friday, which isn't too
surprising considering that city and it's political views. (Diane
Fienstein, mayor of San Francisco during Reagan's time in office, took a
jab at the president right after he died.) I have absolutely no problem
with free speech and I support it 100%, but everything has a time and a
place in life. The national day of mourning for the man's death was
certainly not the right time in my opinion. The man left office in 1988
and the protesters kept completely silent until last Friday to say
something about his policies. Their issues must not have been too
important to them I guess if they waited that long to spread their word.

But then again it's San Francisco, so I guess that's to be expected from
that city and a certain number of its citizens. Berkeley didn't even
stoop to that level and neither did Oakland nor San Jose. Ronald Reagan
may not have been the most popular president here in the Democrat
dominated Bay Area, but some communities knew when was the "right" time
to voice their opinions about him. Even the local TV news broadcasts
covered the protesters carefully and only showed a 20 second (at most)
mention of them.

Free speech is a wonderful right, but using it at the wrong time can be
in very poor taste.

Donna D

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 3:13:04 PM6/13/04
to
>F**k Ronald Ray-gun

I hope the person that said this is not a person who lives in america or will
ever visit. And regardless send me an email when they die so I can take a nice
big poop on their grave.

> this is the REAL tragedy of the Week!!!!

No, finding out that someone was born that would say something like that about
one of our presidents is the real tragedy i dont write here much but this was
so sick it make my stomach turn!
Donna

William J. Buckley

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 3:56:30 PM6/13/04
to

"Donna D" <drco...@aol.commmmm> wrote:

> No, finding out that someone was born that would say something like that
about
> one of our presidents is the real tragedy i dont write here much but this
was
> so sick it make my stomach turn!
> Donna

Blah! Blah! Blah!

Yeah....welcome to AmeriKKKa...home of the "free" and the "brave," and where
"freedom of speech" went out with Miami Vice!

You know what Donna, it's folks like you who do their very best to make
matters of opinion "wrong" by chastising folks who speak their mind into
fear and loathing.

Sorry, not this guy. I've got an opinion and I'm not afraid to speak it.
Right or wrong, in good taste or bad, politically correct or incorrect, I'll
say what I want, thank you, amd all I've got to say is "DEAL WITH IT!"

I have a lot of deep respect for the entire Thompson family and was merely
trying to pay my respect in my own way. So, in essence, it wasn't me who
dragged the Thompson death thread down a rat hole. You can thank your
constituents for that!

Although, I'm happy to give props where props are due. R.W.R. did well in
instituting Alan Greenspan and getting the Federal interest rates down out
of the double digits. However, that aside, I still think the guy was a
major jerk. Although, in comparison, he was God compared to the imbecile we
have in office now!


> No, finding out that someone was born that would say something like that
about
> one of our presidents is the real tragedy

Let me quote you on that, OK? Just in case, of course (and God forbid!)
that President William Clinton happens to pass away in our lifetime. After
the floodgates of hate open up in the wake of his passing, do you mind if I
quote you?

Cheers,
-me


Douglas Kell

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 4:00:59 PM6/13/04
to
I have e-mailed to park to express the sadness of the coaster community at
this time of sadness

Douggie in UK

"Greg V.G." <minn...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:92e9f486.04061...@posting.google.com...

DeadAndRestless

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 8:53:11 PM6/13/04
to
>> Sorry, but where the hell does the "gay agenda" come into play? My friend
>> was hetrosexual, btw, and received tainted blood after a motorcycle
>> accident. His death left a wife and kids to fend for themselves. A real
>> tragedy if you ask me.
>
>And that was President Reagan's fault? Who forced your friend to buy a
>motorcycle?
>

:slaps forehead:

-
Alan


Joe Schwartz

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 9:03:28 PM6/13/04
to
Locoboy <locoboy5...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Exactly. It's *our* money to begin with. It's not a matter of *giving*
us more money -- it's a matter of letting us *keep* more of our money.

--
Come visit Joyrides -- www.joyrides.com -- a photo gallery celebrating
the joy and beauty of amusement park rides, especially roller coasters!

Raven Rider

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 9:58:38 PM6/13/04
to


I'm just curious, who pays the most taxes?

Have Fun!

Paul "Curious is my middle name" Drabek
Raven...@Negative-g.com
Negative-g: www.Negative-g.com
Read My Blog "It's All Downhill From Here" at www.negative-g.com/downhill/

Proud Poster On Rec,Roller-Coaster Since September 27, 1996

William J. Buckley

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 10:10:22 PM6/13/04
to

"Locoboy" <locoboy5...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > Sorry, but where the hell does the "gay agenda" come into play? My
friend
> > was hetrosexual, btw, and received tainted blood after a motorcycle
> > accident. His death left a wife and kids to fend for themselves. A
real
> > tragedy if you ask me.
>
> And that was President Reagan's fault?

Actually, it was. Like our current Commander in Chief [sic], Reagan was
pumping millions into the Defense dept. and idiotic concepts like "Star
Wars" instead of supplying the health industry the money they had requested
to clean up the blood supply that they knew was tainted, but didn't have the
funds to do anything about.

It comes down to a problem with "priorities" and "what was important."

Maybe you're a 20-something, and were just a baby in 1982? In that case,
you need a history lesson. It's well documented, assuming you can read...


DeadAndRestless

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 10:13:10 PM6/13/04
to
>> Now there's a pot-kettle-black hypothesis (e.g. tax cuts
>> biased toward those in the upper percentile tax brackets).
>
>
>I'm just curious, who pays the most taxes?

I'm curious...who has the largest surplus of money after taxes? And who has the
highest percentage of taxes?

-
Alan

DeadAndRestless

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 10:14:58 PM6/13/04
to
>And who has the
>highest percentage of taxes?

Let me rephrase...which households are paying a higher percentage on their
income?

-
Alan

Raven Rider

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 10:09:37 PM6/13/04
to
On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:41:33 GMT, Locoboy
<locoboy5...@hotmail.com> wrote:


>I agree Mike. There were about 100 people protesting in San Francisco
>against President Reagan's policies last Friday, which isn't too
>surprising considering that city and it's political views. (Diane
>Fienstein, mayor of San Francisco during Reagan's time in office, took a
>jab at the president right after he died.) I have absolutely no problem
>with free speech and I support it 100%, but everything has a time and a
>place in life. The national day of mourning for the man's death was
>certainly not the right time in my opinion.

There were a few right across from the National Cathedral with signs
that read "Reagan In Hell". They were truly a national embarrassment.

>Free speech is a wonderful right, but using it at the wrong time can be
>in very poor taste.

Exactly. If you don't like someone's policies voice your opinion or
protest when they're in office or even publicly disagree with them
afterwards but to do so at their memorial service it's just tasteless.
The dead can't fight back so beating a corpse is plain cowardly.

Have Fun!

Paul Drabek

Raven Rider

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 10:11:43 PM6/13/04
to
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:03:28 GMT, Joe Schwartz <j...@joyrides.com>
wrote:

>Locoboy <locoboy5...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "William J. Buckley" wrote:
>>
>> > Dude - "trickle-down economics" ... or "Reaganomics" as they called
>> > it. Yeah, brilliant idea. Give more money to the rich, so they'll
>> > spend more money and it will benefit the poor. Errrr...yeah, right!
>>
>> Or decrease taxes so people can do what they want with their own money.
>> I have no problem with that.
>
>Exactly. It's *our* money to begin with. It's not a matter of *giving*
>us more money -- it's a matter of letting us *keep* more of our money.


Amen Brother!

Have Fun!

Paul "I want interest with my tax refund" Drabek

kipross

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 10:47:54 PM6/13/04
to
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 02:09:37 GMT, Raven Rider
<Raven...@Negative-G.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:41:33 GMT, Locoboy
><locoboy5...@hotmail.com> wrote:


>>Free speech is a wonderful right, but using it at the wrong time can be
>>in very poor taste.
>
>Exactly. If you don't like someone's policies voice your opinion or
>protest when they're in office or even publicly disagree with them
>afterwards but to do so at their memorial service it's just tasteless.
>The dead can't fight back so beating a corpse is plain cowardly.

Poor taste or not, it's free speech. Regardless of how distasteful
someone's comments may be, everyone has the freedom to make those
comments.

That's why this is America.


-kipross

Christopher Mooney

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 12:08:22 AM6/14/04
to

I very rarely EVER jump into these, but one thing I have not seen
discussed is how the whole "STAR WARS" thing helped to push the then
only other nuclear super-power in the world to decide to dismantle
itself. Clean blood supply or not, a Nuclear Winter would kill us all.

Anyone else here grew up with the fear at night that the missles could
be in the air that very moment? Of those that do, how much more secure
are you that your children will not lay awake in bed at night with
those very same fears?

To me, he focused on what was "priority" and "what was important". He
helped buy a better peace of mind for a generation.

Chris Mooney

Walt Breymier

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 12:08:37 AM6/14/04
to
On 13 Jun 2004 14:32:34 GMT, deadand...@aol.com (DeadAndRestless)
wrote:

>> Thank you for taking the opportunity to prove my hypothesis that
>>liberals tend to choose their politics based solely on personal gain.
>
>Umm, you don't?
>


No, I don't. I base my opinions and choices on what's best for the
country. This might help me in the long run because it makes my
country a better place where I might more easily succeed.

Walt Breymier

DeadAndRestless

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 12:33:31 AM6/14/04
to
>I very rarely EVER jump into these, but one thing I have not seen
>discussed is how the whole "STAR WARS" thing helped to push the then
>only other nuclear super-power in the world to decide to dismantle
>itself. Clean blood supply or not, a Nuclear Winter would kill us all.
>
>Anyone else here grew up with the fear at night that the missles could
>be in the air that very moment? Of those that do, how much more secure
>are you that your children will not lay awake in bed at night with
>those very same fears?
>
>To me, he focused on what was "priority" and "what was important". He
>helped buy a better peace of mind for a generation.
>

By never putting up anything bordering on a missle defense system? By
outspending a country that was falling apart anyways? Hey, guess what: Russia
still has virtually all those nukes, and now they're in the not-so-capable
hands of what's practically a third world nation. Are we any safer? Fuck no!

You know what's realistic? The fact that we would have destroyed each other
probably kept us (and them) from firing up ICBMs far more than Reagan and his
laser satellites ever would have. Not only that, but a missle defense shield in
this day and age is silly when we've got bigger problems worrying about
terrorists sticking a bomb in a truck. No billions spent on outer space radar
arrays and intercepting missles is ever going to lessen that threat.

-who honestly expects North Korea to launch a nuke tipped ICBM in some suicidal
gesture, oh, never-
Alan

Walt Breymier

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 12:11:22 AM6/14/04
to
On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:56:30 GMT, "William J. Buckley"
<vze1...@verizon.delete.net> wrote:

>So, in essence, it wasn't me who
>dragged the Thompson death thread down a rat hole.


Of course it wasn't, Buck.

Like I said, warped sense of reality.

Walt Breymier

Walt Breymier

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 12:13:15 AM6/14/04
to
On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 14:34:17 GMT, David Higgins
<no...@nohow.net.invalid> wrote:


First of all, I am hardly upper percentile tax bracket, so your
argument went to pot right there.

Second, why should the rich be taxed a higher RATE then the poor,
just because they made more money?

Don't liberals want everything EQUAL?

Walt Breymier

DeadAndRestless

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 12:41:15 AM6/14/04
to
>>Umm, you don't?
>>
>
>
> No, I don't. I base my opinions and choices on what's best for the
>country. This might help me in the long run because it makes my
>country a better place where I might more easily succeed.

So, in other words, you're doing it for personal gain. I mean, you're "doing it
for your country!," but only because ultimately its going to come back to you.
I mean, if you were "doing it for America!," it wouldn't matter if you were
going to be dirt poor and sick when you died. You're doing it for *you*, under
the guise that the country will be better when you ultimately get a chance to
better yourself.

-
Alan

Joe Schwartz

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 1:18:20 AM6/14/04
to
Walt Breymier <wa...@camprrc.com> wrote:

> Second, why should the rich be taxed a higher RATE then the poor,
> just because they made more money?
>
> Don't liberals want everything EQUAL?

Liberals want everyone to have an equal amount of money (after taxes).

Wolf

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 1:35:26 AM6/14/04
to
> By never putting up anything bordering on a missle defense system?

Never really intended to. W/ 1980s tech, you really couldn't. That said, the
Russians couldn't rely on that, and had to try to match non-existent
technology.

> By outspending a country that was falling apart anyways? Hey, guess what:
Russia
> still has virtually all those nukes, and now they're in the not-so-capable
> hands of what's practically a third world nation. Are we any safer? Fuck
no!

The idea was to bankrupt Russia before they knew what was happening, and
could start a war to stop it. In the end, this is what happened.

> You know what's realistic? The fact that we would have destroyed each
other
> probably kept us (and them) from firing up ICBMs far more than Reagan and
his
> laser satellites ever would have.

There was an interesting comment that MAD worked because the Russians knew
the US wouldn't shoot first and the US knew the Russians didn't trust a
first strike to launch/detonate correctly.

> -who honestly expects North Korea to launch a nuke tipped ICBM in some
suicidal
> gesture, oh, never-

NK is interesting, in that they might just because they have nothing to
lose.

--
|\-/|
<0 0>
=(o)=
-Wolf


Wolf

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 1:38:42 AM6/14/04
to
> > Second, why should the rich be taxed a higher RATE then the poor,
> > just because they made more money?
> >
> > Don't liberals want everything EQUAL?
>
> Liberals want everyone to have an equal amount of money (after taxes).

Also known as Communism. =)

Walt Breymier

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 1:40:39 AM6/14/04
to
On 14 Jun 2004 04:41:15 GMT, deadand...@aol.com (DeadAndRestless)
wrote:

>So, in other words, you're doing it for personal gain. I mean, you're "doing it
>for your country!," but only because ultimately its going to come back to you.
>I mean, if you were "doing it for America!," it wouldn't matter if you were
>going to be dirt poor and sick when you died. You're doing it for *you*, under
>the guise that the country will be better when you ultimately get a chance to
>better yourself.


Look up the definition of "might."

Walt Breymier

Walt Breymier

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 1:47:29 AM6/14/04
to
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 05:18:20 GMT, Joe Schwartz <j...@joyrides.com>
wrote:

>Walt Breymier <wa...@camprrc.com> wrote:


>
>> Second, why should the rich be taxed a higher RATE then the poor,
>> just because they made more money?
>>
>> Don't liberals want everything EQUAL?
>
>Liberals want everyone to have an equal amount of money (after taxes).


Exactly, which is so ludicrous, it's insane they can't see it.

Walt Breymier

Walt Breymier

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 1:49:28 AM6/14/04
to
On 14 Jun 2004 00:53:11 GMT, deadand...@aol.com (DeadAndRestless)
wrote:

>:slaps forehead:
>
>-
> Alan

Somebody's got to! : P

Walt Breymier

PINK FLOYD FANATIC

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 2:15:53 AM6/14/04
to
"William J. Buckley" <vze1...@verizon.delete.net> wrote in message news:<Oj2zc.21378$wi2....@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>...

> "Donna D" <drco...@aol.commmmm> wrote:
>
> > No, finding out that someone was born that would say something like that
> about
> > one of our presidents is the real tragedy i dont write here much but this
> was
> > so sick it make my stomach turn!
> > Donna
>
> Blah! Blah! Blah!
>
> Yeah....welcome to AmeriKKKa...home of the "free" and the "brave," and where
> "freedom of speech" went out with Miami Vice!

We seem to be losing a lot more rights than free speech! This country
is turning communist whether we like it or not!! :-(


>
> You know what Donna, it's folks like you who do their very best to make
> matters of opinion "wrong" by chastising folks who speak their mind into
> fear and loathing.
>
> Sorry, not this guy. I've got an opinion and I'm not afraid to speak it.
> Right or wrong, in good taste or bad, politically correct or incorrect, I'll
> say what I want, thank you, amd all I've got to say is "DEAL WITH IT!"

Glad someone has much of the same views on those lying politicians as
I do! :-)


>
> I have a lot of deep respect for the entire Thompson family and was merely
> trying to pay my respect in my own way. So, in essence, it wasn't me who
> dragged the Thompson death thread down a rat hole. You can thank your
> constituents for that!
>
> Although, I'm happy to give props where props are due. R.W.R. did well in
> instituting Alan Greenspan and getting the Federal interest rates down out
> of the double digits. However, that aside, I still think the guy was a
> major jerk. Although, in comparison, he was God compared to the imbecile we
> have in office now!
>

Exactly how I feel. I think Reagon wasn't very good either but he is
an angel compared to that pile of CRAP we have in the White Outhouse
now! I can't wait to see the new movie about 9-11 because it will show
what a worthless EVIL pile Bush is!!


>
> > No, finding out that someone was born that would say something like that
> about
> > one of our presidents is the real tragedy
>
> Let me quote you on that, OK? Just in case, of course (and God forbid!)
> that President William Clinton happens to pass away in our lifetime. After
> the floodgates of hate open up in the wake of his passing, do you mind if I
> quote you?

I don't care that much for Clinton either but I have to say he may
have more respect for us working (SLAVE) class than any republican.
But it don't matter to me what party our president is in BUT wheather
or not he LIES to the public! Anyone who decieves people is VERY EVIL
and I can NOT stand them!! OTOH anyone who is nice, HONEST, and caring
(like this extremely sweet woman I love) will get PLENTY of respect
from me!! :-)
>
> Cheers,
> -me

Locoboy

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 3:01:31 AM6/14/04
to
I see things differently than you. When I heard that your friend died after his
motorcycle accident, I was looking at it differently. I saw that as a result of
riding a motorcycle.

"It comes down to a problem with "priorities" and "what was important.""

Yep...exactly.


Coasterbuf

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 4:12:58 AM6/14/04
to

"Walt Breymier" <wa...@camprrc.com> wrote in message :

>
> >
> >
> No, I don't. I base my opinions and choices on what's best for the
> country. This might help me in the long run because it makes my
> country a better place where I might more easily succeed.
>

Ah...so in other words you're saying that you're NOT voting for Bush Jr.
then!

Politics aside and back on topic, I am very saddened by this bit of news.
And to happen at a daughter's wedding is all the more tragic. May Blackpool
always go on in the spirit and manner that Mr. Thompson ran it.

Coasterbuf


Joe Schwartz

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 7:18:26 AM6/14/04
to
kevind...@msn.com (PINK FLOYD FANATIC) wrote:

> But it don't matter to me what party our president is in BUT wheather
> or not he LIES to the public! Anyone who decieves people is VERY EVIL
> and I can NOT stand them!! OTOH anyone who is nice, HONEST, and caring
> (like this extremely sweet woman I love) will get PLENTY of respect
> from me!! :-)

Unless they add BRAKES to a coaster and take away its AIRTIME.

DeadAndRestless

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 9:24:08 AM6/14/04
to
>>So, in other words, you're doing it for personal gain. I mean, you're "doing
>it
>>for your country!," but only because ultimately its going to come back to
>you.
>>I mean, if you were "doing it for America!," it wouldn't matter if you were
>>going to be dirt poor and sick when you died. You're doing it for *you*,
>under
>>the guise that the country will be better when you ultimately get a chance
>to
>>better yourself.
>
>
> Look up the definition of "might."
>

The point is, Walt, that we all vote in our self interests. And even if we're
being selfish, I'd say wanting to keep loved ones alive is a pretty damn good
reason to be so.

-
Alan

DeadAndRestless

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 9:25:43 AM6/14/04
to
>I see things differently than you. When I heard that your friend died after
>his
>motorcycle accident, I was looking at it differently. I saw that as a result
>of
>riding a motorcycle.

And it certainly would have been. Problem is/was, he didn't have to die at any
time as a result of the motorcycle accident. Its like if someone got a
treatable form of cancer, but was turned away from hospitals when they looked
for treatment. You can say that "cancer killed him", but that's not really
true.

-
Alan

Raven Rider

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 9:58:54 AM6/14/04
to
On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:47:54 -0400, kipross <kip...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Kip,

I was not commenting on their freedom of speech but their lack of
common sense and decency. I mean the family and friends are in
mourning and to shove it in their faces that you think that their
loved one is in hell is sub-human. I wouldn't even wish that on those
protesters when they lose someone they love. Besides there are
President's I detest and are disgusted at but you know what good or
bad they were my President and should and will be shown the respect
that they deserve when it's their time.

Raven Rider

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 10:02:32 AM6/14/04
to
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:38:42 -0400, "Wolf" <bus...@adelphia.net>
wrote:

>> > Second, why should the rich be taxed a higher RATE then the poor,
>> > just because they made more money?
>> >
>> > Don't liberals want everything EQUAL?
>>
>> Liberals want everyone to have an equal amount of money (after taxes).
>
>Also known as Communism. =)


Exactly!!!

Raven Rider

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 10:04:43 AM6/14/04
to
On 14 Jun 2004 02:14:58 GMT, deadand...@aol.com (DeadAndRestless)
wrote:


Alan, so if you work harder than me and make sacrifices that I don't
and thus make oodles more cash than I have you'll split the difference
with me? How kind and generous of you. You can send the check to

Paul Drabek
Santa Claus Indiana, 47579

Have Fun!

Paul "Waiting for the check" Drabek

Raven Rider

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 10:07:44 AM6/14/04
to
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 05:47:29 GMT, Walt Breymier <wa...@camprrc.com>
wrote:


That's because they have no faith in the people to make the right
choices in their lives but instead have faith in the most corrupt,
inept and incompetent thing that man has ever created, government to
make life's choices for us.

Have Fun!

Paul Drabek

Locoboy

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 1:59:54 PM6/14/04
to
DeadAndRestless wrote:

> And it certainly would have been. Problem is/was, he didn't have to die at any
> time as a result of the motorcycle accident. Its like if someone got a
> treatable form of cancer, but was turned away from hospitals when they looked
> for treatment. You can say that "cancer killed him", but that's not really
> true.

That's one way of looking at it, but I tend to look at the root cause of problems
and start from there. The root cause in this case, as I see it and please keep in
mind that I don't know anything about it besides what was posted here originally,
was that the person bought a motorcycle without first thinking about the dire
consequences of that action. If he never bought that motorcycle, then his death
might have been avoided. I know many people that ride motorcycles and they all
know that it's not if you have an accident with one, but when.

It's terrible that his family will not have a father around ever again, but those
are the risks that you take when you buy a motorcycle when you're a family man. I
just tend to think about the consequences of your actions and you have nobody to
blame but yourself. That's just my philosophy though and, as shown by the posts
in this thread, it's obvious that many people do not share that same way of
looking at things. That's perfectly fine and if so, let's just please agree to
disagree and not resort to personal attacks like what some others have already
done.

I'm not trying to change other people's thought processes because I know that is
impossible to do. I'm just shedding light on my own thought process.

Chris Simon

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 2:16:05 PM6/14/04
to
>> I have a lot of deep respect for the entire Thompson family and was merely
>> trying to pay my respect in my own way. So, in essence, it wasn't me who
>> dragged the Thompson death thread down a rat hole. You can thank your
>> constituents for that!

Could any more posts in this thread on the subject of politics please be
changed to a new subject, as I'm getting frustrated going into a thread
entitled "Death of Geoffrey Thompson" in the expectation of finding some
tributes and comments only to find dozens of posts arguing about US
politics.

--
Chris Simon
osia...@slcszetnet.co.uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/csimon/

** Get rid of all SLCs to reply directly **

William December Starr

unread,
Jun 13, 2004, 3:59:01 PM6/13/04
to
In article <40CC9FD9...@hotmail.com>,
Locoboy <locoboy5...@hotmail.com> said:

> I have absolutely no problem with free speech and I support it
> 100%, but everything has a time and a place in life. The national
> day of mourning for the man's death was certainly not the right
> time in my opinion. The man left office in 1988 and the protesters
> kept completely silent until last Friday to say something about his
> policies. Their issues must not have been too important to them I
> guess if they waited that long to spread their word.

Or perhaps they were reacting to the sudden flare-up of attempted
deification of the man that was coming from some on the right. (A
factor which, of course, was not very much in play between January
20, 1989 and now.) I hope you're equally upset with the people who
have -- during the period of mourning -- started or revived campaigns
to put Reagan's on the ten dollar bill or some other piece of U.S.
currency and/or on Mount Rushmore.

--
William December Starr <wds...@panix.com>

William December Starr

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 10:58:29 AM6/14/04
to
In article <02e633ed81939f46...@unlimited.ultrafeed.com>,
wa...@camprrc.com said:

>>> Thank you for taking the opportunity to prove my hypothesis that
>>> liberals tend to choose their politics based solely on personal

>>> gain. [DeadAndRestless]


>>
>> Umm, you don't?
>
> No, I don't. I base my opinions and choices on what's best for the
> country. This might help me in the long run because it makes my
> country a better place where I might more easily succeed.

Does this mean that you objected when Ronald Reagan so famously
asked, in 1980, "Are you better off than you were four years ago?"
rather than "Is the country better off than it was four years ago?"

William December Starr

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 11:03:04 AM6/14/04
to
In article <4a6f670c17b269af...@unlimited.ultrafeed.com>,
wa...@camprrc.com said:

> Second, why should the rich be taxed a higher RATE then the
> poor, just because they made more money?

Because thay can better afford to pay taxes at a higher rate.

> Don't liberals want everything EQUAL?

No. Equitable, perhaps, but not equal.

Keith Hopkins

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 2:40:31 PM6/14/04
to
"William J. Buckley" <vze1...@verizon.delete.net> wrote in message
news:Oj2zc.21378$wi2....@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
>
> "Donna D" <drco...@aol.commmmm> wrote:
>
> > No, finding out that someone was born that would say something like that
> about
> > one of our presidents is the real tragedy i dont write here much but
this
> was
> > so sick it make my stomach turn!
> > Donna
>
> Blah! Blah! Blah!
>
> Yeah....welcome to AmeriKKKa...home of the "free" and the "brave," and
where
> "freedom of speech" went out with Miami Vice!

Despite the supposed loss of Freedom of Speech, you still keep flapping your
lips.

--
Keith Hopkins
suss...@visi.comblock (clear the block to reply)
"When you see "Red #6" you wonder what happened to the people
who tested Reds 1 through 5, and whether there's a walled-off
compound in the Nevada desert populated entirely by crimson-skinned
telekinetic giants who must be constantly sedated lest they snap their
chains and destroy the world." - James Lileks


Douglas Kell

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 2:50:10 PM6/14/04
to
I have to say that I am disgusted by the way this thread has been hi-jacked
into a quasi- political debate instead of our thoughts and memories of a man
who died in the most tragic of circumstances at his daughters wedding.

Douggie in UK

"Keith Hopkins" <suss...@visi.comblock> wrote in message
news:40cdf16f$0$90570$a186...@authen.newsreader.visi.com...

Phil Hilton

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 2:51:43 PM6/14/04
to
> I have to say that I am disgusted by the way this thread has been
hi-jacked

I'm with you Douggie.


DeadAndRestless

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 7:13:37 PM6/14/04
to
>Alan, so if you work harder than me and make sacrifices that I don't
>and thus make oodles more cash than I have you'll split the difference
>with me?

No, but I should be paying the same rate as you if not more, instead of less.
No one here is asking for outright income redistribution, which is what you're
making it sound like.

-
Alan

DeadAndRestless

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 7:21:35 PM6/14/04
to
>That's one way of looking at it, but I tend to look at the root cause of
>problems
>and start from there.

Okay then. So, if I'm in a car wreck tonight, and the doctor leaves a piece of
metal in me, or amputates my leg, is it my fault because I should have taken
the bus? Is it the man's fault who died on SFNE's SROS because he hadn't
thoroughly researched the safety record of the Intamin T-Bar restraint prior to
being thrown from the ride?

>The root cause in this case, as I see it and please keep in
>mind that I don't know anything about it besides what was posted here
>originally,
>was that the person bought a motorcycle without first thinking about the dire
>consequences of that action.

No, I think he knew the consequences of buying a motorcycle. You can fall off
or crash. Thinking, "Gee, I better not get in an accident, because otherwise I
may be poisoned by a bad blood supply thanks to the outright refusal of the
gov't to acknowledge a disease in it" should not be a part of this thinking
process.

>If he never bought that motorcycle, then his death
>might have been avoided.

So its everyone's fault that got AIDS through a blood transfusion, and not that
of the folks watching it or funding it? Should everyone in the mid 80s have
been living in clear, bullet proof bubbles, to have prevented possible injuries
from crossing the street and walking up and down stairs?


>It's terrible that his family will not have a father around ever again, but
>those
>are the risks that you take when you buy a motorcycle when you're a family
>man.

But the motorcycle accident didn't kill him. He would have lived a normal life
even after the accident...if the blood he was given was clean.

> I
>just tend to think about the consequences of your actions and you have nobody
>to
>blame but yourself.

So everyone who is the victim of medical malpractice or is injured in a motor
vehicle accident has only themselves to blame? Yeah, I guess those people who
flew on 9/11 should have known hijackers could take over the plane and crash it
into a building. It's their fault!

>That's just my philosophy though and, as shown by the posts
>in this thread, it's obvious that many people do not share that same way of
>looking at things.

That's because this is absurd. Read the logic.

1) Man gets into motorcycle accident

2) Man's injuries are that of which he can fully recover

3) Man is given bad blood in transfusion

4) Man is blamed for riding motorcycle (???)

>That's perfectly fine and if so, let's just please agree to
>disagree and not resort to personal attacks like what some others have
>already
>done.

I'd like not to, but this is crazy.


B&M ruLE

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 7:37:31 PM6/14/04
to
Oh pleaseeeeeeee stop your liberal BS.
"William December Starr" <wds...@panix.com> wrote in message
news:caken8$ocm$1...@panix1.panix.com...

Raven Rider

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 9:25:43 PM6/14/04
to
On 14 Jun 2004 23:13:37 GMT, deadand...@aol.com (DeadAndRestless)
wrote:


So you're proposing a truly fair income tax system, the flat tax? If
so then I'm for that but you did sound like you were proposing income
redistribution.

Have Fun!

Paul Drabek

Raven Rider

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 9:30:49 PM6/14/04
to
On 14 Jun 2004 11:03:04 -0400, wds...@panix.com (William December
Starr) wrote:

>In article <4a6f670c17b269af...@unlimited.ultrafeed.com>,
>wa...@camprrc.com said:
>
>> Second, why should the rich be taxed a higher RATE then the
>> poor, just because they made more money?
>
>Because thay can better afford to pay taxes at a higher rate.
>
>> Don't liberals want everything EQUAL?
>
>No. Equitable, perhaps, but not equal.

So basically you want to punish people for succeeding? If I invent
something and bring it to market that changes the world and people are
crawling over each other to give me money for my product I should be
penalized for doing so? How very kind of you.

Without someone taking risks for a profit none of us would be here
because the PC would ever have came to market and there would be no
Internet or about a billion other things that have changed the way
human beings live their lives.

Success should be applauded and looked highly upon rather than being a
scarlet letter and something to punish.

Walt Breymier

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 11:42:06 PM6/14/04
to
On 14 Jun 2004 11:03:04 -0400, wds...@panix.com (William December
Starr) wrote:

>In article <4a6f670c17b269af...@unlimited.ultrafeed.com>,
>wa...@camprrc.com said:
>
>> Second, why should the rich be taxed a higher RATE then the
>> poor, just because they made more money?
>
>Because thay can better afford to pay taxes at a higher rate.


So you would have a world where no one tries to be the best that
they can be, or do all that they can to succeed, becuase they are
going to be pemalized for doing so? A world where everyone does just
what they have to to be comfortable and leaves it at that?

That's crap. Where in the hell would this country and this world be
if everyone felt like you do and no one reached for the stars?

Walt Breymier

Walt Breymier

unread,
Jun 14, 2004, 11:46:09 PM6/14/04
to
On 14 Jun 2004 23:21:35 GMT, deadand...@aol.com (DeadAndRestless)
wrote:

>So its everyone's fault that got AIDS through a blood transfusion, and not that
>of the folks watching it or funding it?


But that shouldn't be the federal government. That's the whole
point. The Reagan administration spent more on AIDS research than any
administration before or since. (and way more than they should have)
They just started too late for Buck's friend.

No matter when they started, it would have always been too late for
somebody's friend.

Walt Breymier

Raven Rider

unread,
Jun 15, 2004, 12:12:53 AM6/15/04
to
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 03:42:06 GMT, Walt Breymier <wa...@camprrc.com>
wrote:

>On 14 Jun 2004 11:03:04 -0400, wds...@panix.com (William December

Still living in the 1500's.

PINK FLOYD FANATIC

unread,
Jun 15, 2004, 1:22:13 AM6/15/04
to
Joe Schwartz <j...@joyrides.com> wrote in message news:<0b2rc0huqo50uvpa0...@4ax.com>...

> kevind...@msn.com (PINK FLOYD FANATIC) wrote:
>
> > But it don't matter to me what party our president is in BUT wheather
> > or not he LIES to the public! Anyone who decieves people is VERY EVIL
> > and I can NOT stand them!! OTOH anyone who is nice, HONEST, and caring
> > (like this extremely sweet woman I love) will get PLENTY of respect
> > from me!! :-)
>
> Unless they add BRAKES to a coaster and take away its AIRTIME.

Anyone who runs a park that braked their coaster so bad that it
completely kills the ride is robbing paying custiomers of their
thrills. To me that is greedy selfish managment. Light moderate
braking is OK on coasters that are too extreme but smoother rides like
Wild Thing need at least HALF of their brakes OFF NOT ALL of them ON!!
If a ride keep at least all of their FLOATING airtime it would still
be ridable and thrilling for most people including me. Viper @ SFGAm
is very very thrilling yet it is not an uncomfortable ride. A
completely brakeless Wild Thing is NOT anymore uncomfortable than
Viper even though is it an excellent ride in brakeless form.

Walt Breymier

unread,
Jun 15, 2004, 1:55:43 AM6/15/04
to
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 03:46:09 GMT, Walt Breymier <wa...@camprrc.com>
wrote:

>The Reagan administration spent more on AIDS research than any
>administration before or since.


After posting this, I started searching for numbers to back it up,
but can't seem to find any. It was hasty of me to repeat a fact
mentioned on a news program without proper research, but I figured if
anyone would tell the truth about how much it was it would be leftist
CNN.

>(and way more than they should have)


Still stand behind that one, though.

Walt Breymier

Locoboy

unread,
Jun 15, 2004, 3:41:40 AM6/15/04
to
William December Starr wrote:

> I hope you're equally upset with the people who
> have -- during the period of mourning -- started or revived campaigns
> to put Reagan's on the ten dollar bill or some other piece of U.S.
> currency and/or on Mount Rushmore.

For the record, I'm not upset about anything. Life is too short to get
into heated arguments about things with people that will not change or
even look at the other side of an issue. Like I said in another post, I
just explain my viewpoint and if people don't agree with it, that's
perfectly fine with me.

And also for the record, I don't see any need to change either Mount
Rushmore nor the U.S. currency. People expressing their desire to see
those changes doesn't make me upset at all though.

Locoboy

unread,
Jun 15, 2004, 3:45:27 AM6/15/04
to
Raven Rider wrote:

Paul took the words right out of my mouth. Kip, notice that not once in my
post did I ever mention that the people should not have their right to voice
their opinions. Not once did I resort to nasty name calling or telling them
to keep quiet. I only was saying that in my opinion, voicing their opinions
on last Friday was in poor taste. Now, what is and what is not poor taste is
100% subjective and I fully realize that. I was just saying that I didn't
agree with the timing of their protest, that's all...nothing more and nothing
less.

Locoboy

unread,
Jun 15, 2004, 3:49:43 AM6/15/04
to
DeadAndRestless wrote:

> I'd like not to, but this is crazy.

Not to me it's not. I've had my say, we disagree, and that's that.

Coaster Enthusiasts of Canada

unread,
Jun 15, 2004, 7:30:51 AM6/15/04
to
Phil Hilton (nntp...@theHiltons.net) wrote:
: > I have to say that I am disgusted by the way this thread has been
: hi-jacked

: I'm with you Douggie.

*** As am I. Enough with the politics, people!

That aside, at least Mr. Thompson was enjoying himeself at his park
when the end came. It seems fitting, although 67 is awfully young to die
in the 21st century.

Richard Bonner

Managing Director:
The Coaster Enthusiasts of Canada
www.CEC.chebucto.org

Coaster Enthusiasts of Canada

unread,
Jun 15, 2004, 7:38:37 AM6/15/04
to
Walt Breymier (wa...@camprrc.com) wrote:
: On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:42:50 GMT, "William J. Buckley"
: <vze1...@verizon.delete.net> wrote:

: >F**k Ronald Ray-gun -- this is the REAL tragedy of the Week!!!!

: Yeah, because some guy who ran a theme park is more important than
: the man who ushered in a new era of peace by ending the cold war!

: Walt Breymier

*** Ahh, actually, Gorbachev ended the cold war.

That aside, to the rrc community, Mr. Thompson was very important. He
helped make Blackpool Pleasure Beach one of this planet's premier
amusement parks.

I have seen him interviewed a number of times and would loved to have
met him. I really liked his personality.

Coaster Enthusiasts of Canada

unread,
Jun 15, 2004, 7:50:45 AM6/15/04
to
Chris Simon (osia...@slcszetnet.co.uk) wrote:
: >> I have a lot of deep respect for the entire Thompson family and was merely

: >> trying to pay my respect in my own way. So, in essence, it wasn't me who
: >> dragged the Thompson death thread down a rat hole. You can thank your
: >> constituents for that!

: Could any more posts in this thread on the subject of politics please be
: changed to a new subject, as I'm getting frustrated going into a thread
: entitled "Death of Geoffrey Thompson" in the expectation of finding some
: tributes and comments only to find dozens of posts arguing about US
: politics.
: --
: Chris Simon

*** Yes; thanks to the discourtesy of some, there are like *nine*
threads titled "Geoffrey Thompson" but with U.S. politics in them.

Please put those discussions into a thread entitled "Politics" so the
rest of the world can killfile it.

kipross

unread,
Jun 15, 2004, 7:56:52 AM6/15/04
to
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:38:37 +0000 (UTC), c...@chebucto.ns.ca (Coaster
Enthusiasts of Canada) wrote:

>*** Ahh, actually, Gorbachev ended the cold war.
>
> That aside, to the rrc community, Mr. Thompson was very important. He
>helped make Blackpool Pleasure Beach one of this planet's premier
>amusement parks.
>
> I have seen him interviewed a number of times and would loved to have
>met him. I really liked his personality.

Oh, the hypocrisy, Richard.

You complain about all of this off-topic, political yabber; yet, you
try and sneak in your own little blurb on the subject.


-kipross
kip...@comcast.net

Todd Long

unread,
Jun 15, 2004, 8:49:21 AM6/15/04
to
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 03:42:06 GMT, Walt Breymier <wa...@camprrc.com>
wrote:

> That's crap. Where in the hell would this country and this world be


>if everyone felt like you do and no one reached for the stars?

But while doing so you have to keep your feet on the ground.*

* Obscure reference made for the enjoyment of those who like obscure
references only. Please in no way take this as my involvement in this
crap pile of a thread.

Todd "please note I did not use the F-word in this post" Long


A few of my rave reviews...

"what an Idoit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"- Papa...@aol.com 3/27/04

"Sometimes I wonder if some of you are
actually capable of anything other than
smart remarks, flamewars, and comedy............"
- Sam M. 5/3/04

"Sadly, I don't think you ever will grow up."
- Daniel W Rouse Jr. 5/4/04

Todd Long

unread,
Jun 15, 2004, 9:03:46 AM6/15/04
to
On 14 Jun 2004 22:22:13 -0700, kevind...@msn.com (PINK FLOYD
FANATIC) wrote:

Hell yeah! Yet another completely different branch in this bramble
bush of a thread.

Trying to get this back on the off topic...

Which recent administration would build the better coaster?

Todd "or we could bring up abortion" Long

DeadAndRestless

unread,
Jun 15, 2004, 9:21:00 AM6/15/04
to
> So you would have a world where no one tries to be the best that
>they can be, or do all that they can to succeed, becuase they are
>going to be pemalized for doing so? A world where everyone does just
>what they have to to be comfortable and leaves it at that?

Oh, give me a break. A one or two point difference in the income tax isn't
going to drive people away from the concept of lavish wealth.

-
Alan

DeadAndRestless

unread,
Jun 15, 2004, 9:22:25 AM6/15/04
to
> The Reagan administration spent more on AIDS research than any
>administration before or since

No, they did not. I can provide proof that that rather easily.

>(and way more than they should have)

?

-
Alan

Shawn Mamros

unread,
Jun 15, 2004, 10:27:33 AM6/15/04
to
Raven Rider <Raven...@Negative-G.com> wrote:
>Without someone taking risks for a profit none of us would be here
>because the PC would ever have came to market and there would be no
>Internet or about a billion other things that have changed the way
>human beings live their lives.

Umm... the Internet, for one, only came into being thanks to "evil
government" funding (DARPA, to be precise).

I will grant you the point that it would never have expanded to
the extent it did without a lot of private backing from the
telcos and ISPs. But it would never have started in the first
place without government funding.

And yes, before anyone else points it out, there were plenty of
private networking services before the Internet really took off,
such as CompuServe or the pre-Internet-integrated AOL. But would,
say, AOL users and CompuServe users have been able to interact
with each other without the Internet? Seems doubtful.

So you can thank the government (yes, Richard, that means the US
government :-) for bringing the Internet into being. Which means
you can at least indirectly thank them for r.r-c. Or perhaps curse
them for that exact same reason. Or both. Whatever floats your boat.

And without the Internet, I know I would never have so quickly
been able to learn of Mr. Thompson's untimely demise. My thoughts
go out to his family and to all who have enjoyed the fruits of
his life's labours. I do still hope I can visit his park someday.

-Shawn Mamros
E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu

William December Starr

unread,
Jun 15, 2004, 12:07:56 PM6/15/04
to
In article <2d81422a5cd91ab1...@news.teranews.com>,
Raven Rider <Raven...@Negative-G.com> said:

> So basically you want to punish people for succeeding? If I invent
> something and bring it to market that changes the world and people
> are crawling over each other to give me money for my product I
> should be penalized for doing so? How very kind of you.

You appear to think that taxation is a penalty. It isn't.

> Without someone taking risks for a profit none of us would be here
> because the PC would ever have came to market and there would be no
> Internet or about a billion other things that have changed the way
> human beings live their lives.

You appear to believe that liberals -- real-world ones, I mean, not
the far right-wing fiction -- ae opposed to people profiting from
their work, skills, or luck. They aren't.

Coaster Enthusiasts of Canada

unread,
Jun 16, 2004, 2:22:07 PM6/16/04
to
kipross (kip...@comcast.net) wrote:
: On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:38:37 +0000 (UTC), c...@chebucto.ns.ca (Coaster
: Enthusiasts of Canada) wrote:

: Oh, the hypocrisy, Richard.

: -kipross

*** I stand guilty, but I just *had* to make that correction. (-:

Stiil, as you can see further on, I did keep the post on topic.

Jason Wakeling

unread,
Jun 16, 2004, 4:59:33 PM6/16/04
to
In message <Ujnzc.63$6C3.52@newsfe5-win>, Douglas Kell
<dougla...@ntlworld.com> writes

>I have to say that I am disgusted by the way this thread has been hi-jacked
>into a quasi- political debate instead of our thoughts and memories of a man
>who died in the most tragic of circumstances at his daughters wedding.
>
>Douggie in UK

Agreed, however it was not a wedding celebration it was just a private
family function. This comes from Andy Hine chairman of the RCCGB who
just wanted to clear that little oversight up for all those who have
been mislead on that front.

Amanda will be taking over the running of the Pleasure Beach and I'm
sure she will be assisted as ever by the rest of the family.

Geoffery will be sadly missed by all of us in the RCCGB and here's a
little side note to show the kind of man he was :-

My father, also an enthusiast, died of Cancer at just 56 years of age on
my birthday in 2003 and a few months later the RCCGB met up at the
annual Blackpool Bash. On the day we ran a raffle to raise funds on
behalf of my father for the hospital which nursed him in his final days
and the MacMillan Nurses who are a support organisation for people
affected by cancer. Geoffery didn't bother buying any tickets he just
pulled out £20 and put it straight into the fund as did several other
members of the Blackpool senior management. It is moments like that that
make you realise that being part of an enthusiast organisation often
goes beyond riding coasters.

--
Jason Wakeling

Greg V.G.

unread,
Jun 16, 2004, 10:36:36 PM6/16/04
to
Jason,

This is not meant to contradict you, I'm just trying to get the facts
straight. By what you posted, it sounds like it contradicts what the
Blackpool Gazette says when it states:

"Geoffrey Thompson died after collapsing at a party held to celebrate
his daughter Amanda's wedding to Steve Chisnall on Saturday night."

It further says: "One guest at the meal said: "Everyone was stunned.
There was pandemonium. Amanda was hysterical – this was supposed to be
her big day."
The wedding breakfast had followed the blessing of Amanda's marriage
during a service in The Attic, above the Paradise Room, conducted by
former Pleasure Beach chaplain Fr Graham Rainford, who is now a canon
to the Archbishop of Canterbury."

I really like your point about sometimes being a member of an
enthusiast organization during difficult times does go beyond the
pleasure of just riding coasters. I find it sad to know that we can no
longer experience the fellowship of Mr. Thompson, nor being able to
share a jovial laugh with him.

Last time I saw Geoffrey Thompson, he had boarded Maurer Sohne's new
Xtended Coaster car set up at the 2003 IAAPA and, much to his
amazement, the car began to turn entirely upside-down on him. He took
the experience like the true gentleman that he was, and that even
though he didn't prefer being turned on his head, he said that he had
a pleasant experience.

Greg VG


Jason Wakeling <Ja...@coastermad.net> wrote in message news:<1HD6mrI1...@ntlworld.com>...

Coaster Enthusiasts of Canada

unread,
Jun 19, 2004, 4:32:24 AM6/19/04
to
Jason Wakeling (Ja...@coastermad.net) wrote:

: Amanda will be taking over the running of the Pleasure Beach and I'm

: sure she will be assisted as ever by the rest of the family.

*** Geoffery was there long enough that I'm sure operations had been
delegated to others. Thus, I don't see that there will be a loss of
operations or any immediate changes. Still, it will be interesting to see
what the plans are by the family for the park now that he is gone.


: My father, also an enthusiast, died of Cancer at just 56 years of age on

: my birthday in 2003 and a few months later the RCCGB met up at the
: annual Blackpool Bash. On the day we ran a raffle to raise funds on
: behalf of my father for the hospital which nursed him in his final days
: and the MacMillan Nurses who are a support organisation for people
: affected by cancer. Geoffery didn't bother buying any tickets he just
: pulled out £20 and put it straight into the fund as did several other
: members of the Blackpool senior management. It is moments like that that
: make you realise that being part of an enthusiast organisation often
: goes beyond riding coasters.
: --
: Jason Wakeling

*** Nice story, Jason. Having seen interviews with Geoffery, I can see
how he would have done that.

Jason Wakeling

unread,
Jun 23, 2004, 3:48:37 PM6/23/04
to
In message <92e9f486.04061...@posting.google.com>, Greg V.G.
<minn...@msn.com> writes


Andy Hine was a close personal friend of Geoffery Thompson as well as
being the chairman of the RCCGB he posted the information on the club
message board as he was aware that the rumour about the wedding
celebration had gone out. Andy was deeply saddened by the passing and
wanted to get the facts straight. I trust Andy on this implicitly and as
he is a friend of the family I see no reason why he should have
incorrect information.
--
Jason

Jason Wakeling

unread,
Jun 23, 2004, 6:12:01 PM6/23/04
to

It has been a terrible day for the Thompson family. Geoffery was laid to
rest earlier today but news has just broken that Doris Thompson has
passed away this evening.

I haven't any further information on how or when as yet but my heart
goes out to the family as I myself lost my Father and Grandmother in the
space of seven days last year.

My sincere condolences go out to the family at this sad time
--
Jason

0 new messages