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Doug the Desert Tripper

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Jun 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/15/97
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I often hear coasters such as Desperado, Wild Thing and Magnum
referred to as hypercoasters. What are the features that typify a
hypercoaster? (and how was this term coined?) I am guessing at some:

1) killer first (& second) drop;
2) extremely high speed;
3) no inversions;
4) "out and back" style.

Does anyone have anything to add to/subtract from this?
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David Crumley

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In article <33a33033...@news.linkline.com>,
des...@see-below.no-SPAM.net says...

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>I often hear coasters such as Desperado, Wild Thing and Magnum
>referred to as hypercoasters. What are the features that typify a
>hypercoaster? (and how was this term coined?) I am guessing at some:
>
>1) killer first (& second) drop;
>2) extremely high speed;
>3) no inversions;
>4) "out and back" style.
>
>Does anyone have anything to add to/subtract from this?

steel
over 200 feet
speed exceedong 70 mph

David
ase...@texas.net
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Alan Baldwin

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des...@see-below.no-SPAM.net (Doug the Desert Tripper) wrote:

> I often hear coasters such as Desperado, Wild Thing and Magnum referred
> to as hypercoasters. What are the features that typify a hypercoaster?
> (and how was this term coined?) I am guessing at some:

> 1) killer first (& second) drop; 2) extremely high speed; 3) no
> inversions; 4) "out and back" style.

> Does anyone have anything to add to/subtract from this?

I think Arrow actually coined the phrase and it was possibly to
describe the sheer size of a 200ft. structure.

No inversions and 'out & back' is typical of many small coasters
so those terms do not define a 'hyper coaster' but they are
,as you say, typical features.

As for speed certainly these are higher in a 'hyper-coaster' though
the designers seem to have wasted the feeling by not providing
proper visual references (speed hoops please BPB and other parks!)

- for hyper coaster read high speed elevated railways.

They are good fun though but perhaps not top of the league.

AlanB, Manchester, England.

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SFoG Viper

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>I often hear coasters such as Desperado, Wild Thing and Magnum
>referred to as hypercoasters. What are the features that typify a
>hypercoaster? (and how was this term coined?) I am guessing at some:

Anything with a height of 200 feet or over.

>1) killer first (& second) drop;

Well, if you want to count Steel Phantom because of its drop of 225 feet,
the first drop isn't really "killer". Manhattan Express (203 feet) has a
75 or so foot first drop and a 144 second, neither are killer.

>2) extremely high speed;

I don't believe Manhattan Express is all that high in the speed
department.

>3) no inversions;

Manhattan and Steel Phantom have inversions.

>4) "out and back" style.

Desperado really isn't all that out-and-back, and Steel Phantom/Manhattan
certainly aren't.

Jeff

Taylor3727

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Jun 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/15/97
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Most people consider a hyper coaster as a coaster over 200 feet tall.

Happy Coasting!

--Taylor Jeffs
E-mail: Taylo...@aol.com
IRC: Cyclone_Racer or Windjammer
Irvine, CA

netboy

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Jun 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/15/97
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Then what's a megacoaster?

CoasterPat

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Jun 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/16/97
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A mega coaster has to have a killer first and second drop. The Phantom at
Kennywood has a killer first and second drop. Coasters like Steel Force
have a 200 and some foot first drop, considered a killer. It's second drop
is 160ft. You consider that a killer. The Phantom's drops are just
reversed and the second drop is larger than any first. SPEED, 80mph. If
that drop doesn't make you HYPER, the speed will. If you don't consider it
a hyper coaster, then consider it a hyper LOOPING coaster. On the Phantom
you come out and back. So what there is a few loops, you still come back!

Dwayne L. Allen

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Jun 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/17/97
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DESPERADO
MAGNUM
WILD THING
The BIG ONE
STEEL FORCE
Mt. FUJI

Enough said.

Dwayne L. Allen
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ulondrea mychelle coleman

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>Most people consider a hyper coaster as a coaster over 200 feet tall.

>Happy Coasting!

Or that has a drop over 200 feet.

However Mr. Tumor did refer to the Bandit as a hyper coaster and it is only
168 feet in height.

Kip Ross

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Jun 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/19/97
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On Thu, 19 Jun 1997 06:09:57 GMT, ucol...@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu
(ulondrea mychelle coleman) wrote:

>However Mr. Tumor did refer to the Bandit as a hyper coaster and it is only
>168 feet in height.

Yes, that's true. There are two hypercoasters that are under 200 feet.
The Bandit...167 feet tall
Titan...166 feet tall...178 foot drop

Therefore, my definition of a hypercoaster is:

A steel non-looping rollercoaster with a height exceeding 160 feet.

Kip Ross
kk...@sprintmail.com

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