The Sooperdooperlooper has always been a one-loop coaster. There is an
article about the court action following the accident on that coaster in a
back-issue of ACE News (I'll look it up...). In that case, the "victim"
was standing, and the jury found the park harmless in the case. Woo hoo! 8-)
The Colossus story was posted here, with fairly complete information. I
merely took down the date; I didn't file the article. One of the
left-coasters here on r.r-c did a nice job of covering that disaster.
I am aware that there was an accident on the Thunderbolt, and that one of
the results was the removal of a small hill in the "spaghetti bowl" helix.
Unfortunately, I do not have the exact date for that incident, therefore
it is not listed in the Almanac.
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
Maintainer, Roller Coaster Almanac
(http://www.rollercoaster.com/almanac.html)
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I believe alot of the (few) deaths in Theme Parks are from people being
foolish on the rides or at least not taking enough precautions. Take
Alton Towers (UK), apparently someone died in the black hole (they stood up!),
yet another died on the water rapids (head dress caught in the mechanism).
Rob
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Minimal research on my part indicates that the first part...that someone
was killed on the T-bolt...is probably true. It is well known that there
was a serious accident during that ride's first season, and everyone I've
heard it from has indicated that the accident was a fatality.
The result of that incident was the removal of a small hill from the
T-bolt's helix. Those of us who didn't visit Kennywood until until 25
years later never noticed that it was gone 8-)
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Thanks Dave,
The death on the Thunderbolt took place in 1968 when it first opened.
According to "Kennywood Memories," it was a high school sophmore who
was thrown from train while on a class trip.
two things, one can anyone tell me in as much detail as possible what
happened to mind bender, and what the ride was like.
AND ALSO DOES ANYONE HAVE THE ADRESS FOR ORDERING THE "SPACE WARP TRACK"
IT IS PERFECT FOR ARROW MODELS.
On the Kennywood Memories video they did say that a boy was killed on the then
new Thunderbolt when he stood up. They also talked about the removal of the
"speed bump" after the first season. The video said it was removed because it
was too rough for the average rider. I don't know if the death was a factor in
its removal.
Also, I have a few observations from my visit to Kennywood today. Looking at
Noah's Ark, I don't think it will even open this season. One section has only a
cinder block wall up with no roof, floor, or equipment in it. You can see into
other sections and nothing looks close to being done. The only remaining old
section is the mountain part where you walk up the ramp and you can see
outside. I think the biggest mistake on the project is the removal of the walk
thru whale's mouth. People will miss the whale and walking on its foam tongue.
The Lil' Phantom looks ready except for the station. It a typical kiddie
coaster like the one at Adventure World or Williams Grove. All of the
other coasters were up and running even though the Steel Phantom train stalled
at the top of the lift for a while. Maintainence people and operators had to
climb the lift but riders did not have to get out and walk down. The new
entertainment area is almost done and the extra seating should reduce
congestion around the Potato Patch.
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Two things: 1/ Can anyone tell me, in as much detail as possible, what
happened to The "Mind Bender", and what the ride was like.
2/ DOES ANYONE HAVE THE ADDRESS FOR ORDERING THE "SPACE WARP TRACK" ?
IT IS PERFECT FOR ARROW MODELS.
*** Hi Hersh,
If you are referring to The "Mind Bender" coaster at West Edmonton
Mall, there is too much detail to give here. Look on our page (URL below)
in the "Park Books" section for "Mall Coaster Enquiry". This report is
over 200 pages long! There is an address from which it may be possible to
obtain a copy. (I say `may' because ther may not be any more copies
available.)
As for "Space Warp", it's manufactured by Bandai. Here is their
American outlet address:
Bandai America Incorporated
12851 E. 166th Street
Cerritos, California 90701
U.S.A.
Voice: (213) 926-0947
Fax: (213) 926-8030
Richard Bonner
Managing Director:
The Coaster Enthusiasts of Canada
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~ak621/CEC/CEC.html
Robert Futscher rfut...@pbs.org
Could you please get into alittle better detail?
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Twister
I do know of one accident which took place in line for the Runaway Mine
Train in '84, I believe. I didn't see it happen, but I was nearby.
There was this continuous shrieking of terror or pain (didn't know which
at first) which I heard from inside the loading platform on the Runaway.
I soon realized that it was shrieks of terror from a woman. This lady's
little boy had fallen in front of one of the trains, and apparently the
train rolled over him. I can't say for sure how much of this is
accurate, though, since I didn't see it with my own eyes, only heard the
comotion. When they were able to back out the train and free the boy,
some medics appeared with the boy in their arms and the terrified mother
following. The kid appeared to be okay.
None of the SFOT coasters had those safety bars in line on the loading
platform until the year after that. That's how the kid was able to fall
in front of the train...no bar.
Anyone else know of any accidents/injuries/deaths at SFOT?
Chris
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Yes, i remember that. It was shortly after i moved to atlanta. I always
thougth that the kid died becuase of some kind of brain hemmorage. It
saddens me that they took out the Z-Force and put Ninja in its place.
Z-Force was the first non-mine train steel coaster i went on. I think
the Z-Force is now Flashback at SFMM, but i dont know.
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I also was once on a coaster at Six Flag's Great Adventure which had
operating difficulities, causing it to be disabled at the top of a large
hill!
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>I remember in the late 80's or Early '90's the King Cobra at Kings
>Dominion Jumped Tracks killing all passengers.
>
Do you have any proof this happined?
I really find this hard to believe.
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King Cobra @ Kings Dominion? Hardly. Whatever you are referring to, PKD or
PKI, neither of their stand-ups have ever had a death or serious injury.
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He is referring to the Kings Cobra at Kings Dominion. It's know longer
there. The deaths are just lore that kids told other kids etc. I think
this happined to every park.
I didn't hear that, but there was one death on that ride (read about this
in the newspaper & heard it on the news).
The park was running all three trains. You boarded the ride about one
story above ground. Anyway, the brakes failed, and a train crashed into
a train being boarded. One person fell out and died of internal
injuries. I don't know if he was hit by the third train.
M.P.
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>I remember in the late 80's or Early '90's the King Cobra at Kings
>Dominion Jumped Tracks killing all passengers.
>
Now, i havta call BS on this one :(
R. Wallace
I remember in the late 80's or Early '90's Cedar Point's Gemini's trains
both derailed at the same time.. sending everyone flying into Lake Erie.
After the trains derailed, the TRAINS went flying very very far into the
Corkscrew. One train hit the Corkscrew which sliced a part of the track
in half, sending the corkscrew train flying into the midway, killing
everyone in sight. The second gemini train happened to fly onto Blue
Streak, destroying both trains and killing all passengers aboard. Blue
Streak just reopened this year because of this dreadful accident, and
they put new ratcheting lap bars in this year to go with the new trains
to protect the public from the corkscrew trains. Seriously.
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I believe this one (unlike the PKD Kobra incident someone else described)
is true...made the news in Washington, DC where I was vacationing at the
time... I am not sure about the number of injuries or their severity
(heck, that train skids to a stop every time it hits the back-brake...),
but I do know that it was a sheared wheel assembly, that it did stop the
train, and that there were no fatalities.
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>He is referring to the Kings Cobra at Kings Dominion. It's know longer
>there. The deaths are just lore that kids told other kids etc. I think
>this happined to every park.
Or it might be the King Cobra at PKI. That one had a wheel assembly break
off shortly after it opened which, of course, caused the car to drag
which in turn stopped the train. Riders were removed with a cherry picker
if I'm remembering correctly. I don't think this incident caused any
injuries.
My memory says it was a female patron, but I wouldn't bet on it.
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Hmmm...the way I heard it on the news was that there was a young boy
killed when he was getting out of the car. A caveat to this: this was
fairly long ago, so my memory may be totally wrong.
As he stood up to exit, the brakes on the car behind his which was
waiting to enter the station failed, thus ramming into his car and
knocking him out of the car. I don't remember where they said he fell or
why it killed him though.
Melissa
That's basically what happened. He ended up falling between the trains and was
crushed to death. Not too long after the ride reopened they had another incident in
which a train was ascending the spiral lift hill when it began to roll backwards. I
don't recall if anyone was hurt. They have since removed Willard's Wizzer.
>Hmmm...the way I heard it on the news was that there was a young boy
>killed when he was getting out of the car. A caveat to this: this was
>fairly long ago, so my memory may be totally wrong.
>As he stood up to exit, the brakes on the car behind his which was
>waiting to enter the station failed, thus ramming into his car and
>knocking him out of the car. I don't remember where they said he fell or
>why it killed him though.
>Melissa
That's what I remember.. I also remember another incident there where
two boys were messing around in line and one kid got hurt, but I can't
remember when that happened.
It's a shame that they had to remove it... I really enjoyed that
coaster.
Ron
CA}Hmmm...the way I heard it on the news was that there was a young
}boy killed when he was getting out of the car [of Willard's
}Whizzer]. A caveat to this: this was fairly long ago, so my memory
}may be totally wrong.
CA}As he stood up to exit, the brakes on the car behind his which was
}waiting to enter the station failed, thus ramming into his car and
}knocking him out of the car. I don't remember where they said he fell or
}why it killed him though.
Your version is one that I've never before heard. That doesn't mean,
of course, that it's not true.
Folks, when we come by this station again, I want to get off... 8-)
Unless I'm mistaken, we covered this accident...and still no one has dug
up the exact date for my Almanac...
How about the worker killed 20 years ago in Wildwood's Hunts pier on
the mine train coaster who rode the coaster standing up... untill he
ws flung off..
Also.. Does the Great Noreaster death of last year where an employee
was kicked in the head accidentally by a rider count..
Mark
There were bolts that did indeed break and others that showed fatique
cracks, but the direct cause of the accident was the loss of those four bolts
which held a retaining plate to the housing containing the wheel trucks.
Just thought I'd clarify that to save you eagle-eyed coaster-accident
buffs a post. (-:
Richard Bonner
Managing Director:
The Coaster Enthusiasts of Canada
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A few years ago I had a business trip to Munchen, West
Germany (when there was a West Germany) to visit a very small
company that operated out of a private residence. The
salesman on the account told me that the company was founded
to design rollercoasters. I thought he might have heard from
other employees that I was a coaster nut and was pulling my
leg. However it was true. I had a very interesting evening
talking to the president over some German beers.
Schwartzkopf had farmed out the job of calculating the
Mindbender loop to this tiny company. It took a week on a VAX
750! They gave him the full numerical control pipe bending
machine tapes and full scale gauges to test the results. They
also advised that the pipes MUST be bent by numerical control
and not by hand/eye to make the track gauge (no pun
intended).
Error #1 was bending the pipe by hand.
Error #2 was the customer never translating the German
maintenance manuals into English. Thus they maintained the
coaster by experience and rule of thumb rather than to the
manufacturer's specifications.
The accident happened when metal fatigue caused the support
for one set of rear wheels on the last car to fail. Thus the
rear end of the last car ceased to be held to the rails. As
the train went through the loop intense pressure was exerted
on the front wheels of the last car as its rear end hung
below the track. This pressure caused the train to stall in
the loop. Three passengers in the rear car fell to their
deaths.
Schwartzkopf went bankrupt. The company I was visiting lost
its only achterbahn customer and had to find a new business.
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I'm going to Six Flags over Georgia next week and was wondering
if there are any good rollercoasters at the park.
Thanks.
-Sunshine
Georgia Cyclone - a cy-CLONE but one of the best woodies anywhere; can
be relentless or mild. Ride 1st in the day and then last at night and
compare the rides.
Great American Scream Machine - an out-and-back wooden coaster that was
the best when it opened in the early seventies, and still a fun ride.
The Mindbender - a classic steel looper with no over-the-shoulder
restraints. Fast, fun and smooth.
The Ninja - a 5 loop monster that can ride rather rough. (The middle
section is less rough this year.)
The Viper - a shuttle loop that shoots you 0-60 mph in 6 seconds,
through a loop and then you do it backwards. A fun ride with not too
bad a line.
The Dahlonega Mine Train - one of the first steel coasters. Not too
exciting but kids learn on this one.
If you go to special store (Attitudes, Defined Ego and Swampwater
Jacks) you can get a card to be validated after riding every coaster.
Turn in the card after riding all six and you get a pin and are entered
in a drawing for a lifetime season pass to Six Flags.
>Ride the "big six" at Six Flags Over Georgia:
>Georgia Cyclone - a cy-CLONE but one of the best woodies anywhere; can
>be relentless or mild. Ride 1st in the day and then last at night and
>compare the rides.
Yes! Ride the GA Cyclone late at night in the back seat! You'll be in for
quite a ride at that time. One of the best wooden coasters in the world with
lots of airtime.
>Great American Scream Machine - an out-and-back wooden coaster that was
>the best when it opened in the early seventies, and still a fun ride.
>The Mindbender - a classic steel looper with no over-the-shoulder
>restraints. Fast, fun and smooth.
>The Ninja - a 5 loop monster that can ride rather rough. (The middle
>section is less rough this year.)
>The Viper - a shuttle loop that shoots you 0-60 mph in 6 seconds,
>through a loop and then you do it backwards. A fun ride with not too
>bad a line.
>The Dahlonega Mine Train - one of the first steel coasters. Not too
>exciting but kids learn on this one.
>If you go to special store (Attitudes, Defined Ego and Swampwater
>Jacks) you can get a card to be validated after riding every coaster.
>Turn in the card after riding all six and you get a pin and are entered
>in a drawing for a lifetime season pass to Six Flags.
Ted Ansley **Rollercoaster Fan<atic>**
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They have a new roller coaster from last year called the "Viper". It is 1
train coaster than launches rides at 60mph in less than 6 seconds through
a loop and backwards again thru the loading camber. It is a good ride.
They also have a coaster called "Ninja". It is a steel coaster than send
rides in three loops and several corkscrews.
The Georgia Cyclone is a good ride but rough. The first time I rode it
was in the back and I could not tell what was coming up next. It lives
its name "Cyclone". The back seat jerks the worst.
>First time poster.
>Thanks.
>-Sunshine
I've never been there, but i DO know that Ninja rules! I know that
because i rode it when it used to be the Kamikaze in Wildwood, NJ.
There are a few goos coasters at Six Flags Over Ga, but nothing out of
the ordinary. The new thing for this year is the Skycoaster. It is a
flight simulating attraction. The only thing with this is that due to
the few amout of ppl that could ride in a day, there is a upcharge..
but believe me... its worth it!
also there are a total of 6 coasters (Ninja, Mine Train, Cyclone,
Viper, Mindbender, and Great American Scream Machine) all are decent,
my favorite is the Scream Machiene (a simple wood coaster but with
style)
Hope Ive been helpful.
Jason
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Skycoaster (SFoG)
I love it haer at Six Flags GA. I think there are 5 or 6
rollercoasters. Her are its names and descriptions:
Ninja: Steel track corkscrews and I think 3 inversions.
Viper: Steel one looper but it shoots you out of the loading tunnel from
0-60 before you hit the loop. Then you do the loop and go up a
straight hill and do it backwards.
Great Americain scream machine: Woodie, I personally love it but its not
my favorite. My favorite is either the Cyclone or Mind Bender. About
the scream machine it has Three main drops the rest are all up and
downs.
Cyclone: I think it is a replica to the New york ride But I love it.
Its also a woodie. lots of fun.
Mind bender: Metal in which you do two inversions with only a lap
bar.(pretty cool huh?) big slanting turns.
Mine train: Three lifts big drop at end.
heres the rides you should ride in order:
Ninja: line gets long fast
Cyclone: " " " "
Mind Bender """""""
Scream machine
Viper
Mine train
You should also ride water rides throughout the day.