Did they really destroy a Steam Locomotive?
Flim4449
Goodall) writes:BLOW UP a steamer
That engine in the fukk scale scenes was none other than Sierra Ry #3,
famed engine of a several hundred TV and movie parts. The scenes of
destruction were all done with scale models, including the bridge part I'm
told by a gaffer who worked the set. Actual running scenes were done on
the Sierra itself as far as I remember, hope this helps. Bill Shippen
Evan L. Werkema
In a previous article, al93...@alpha08.uucp (Colin Goodall) says:
>I've got an interesting question. (At least I think its interesting!)
>
>In the movie "Back To The Future, Part III", they manage to run a steam
>locomotive off the end of an uncompleted bridge.
>
>Where was the train footage for the movie shot?
As somebody mentioned, this was yet another starring roll for the Sierra
Railroad 2-8-0. By the way, the Alco S6's that show up later in the film
have had their share of movie rolls too. I can't remember the name of the
railroad that owns them off the top of my head...Ventura County?
>Where was the incomplete bridge that they used to drive the train off?
Probably a backlot.
>Did they really destroy the steam engine or was it Hollywood's usual
> special FX that just made it look that way. (It looked real to me, but
> then again, I don't see this sort of thing happening every day)
There was a half-hour "Making of BTFIII" program on TV when the film first
came out that talked about many of the effects, including the train wreck.
The "engine" they wrecked was indeed a model...a very paintakingly detailed
model. I don't recall the scale, but the mangled smokestack came up to the
knee of the man standing next toit.
If you haven't seen the film, don't read below this line.
The scene with the S6's doing in the Delorean was real enough, though.
Well, almost real...after all, a REAL train would have had to stop and call
the police and fill out a mound of paperwork, and Marty McFly would have
sued the railroad for not keeping him from driving on the tracks, and won...
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Colin Goodall
In the movie "Back To The Future, Part III", they manage to run a steam
locomotive off the end of an uncompleted bridge.
Where was the train footage for the movie shot?
Where was the incomplete bridge that they used to drive the train off?
What steam engine did they use?
Did they really destroy the steam engine or was it Hollywood's usual
special FX that just made it look that way. (It looked real to me, but
then again, I don't see this sort of thing happening every day)
Thanx For any answers
Colin Goodall
al93...@omega.scs.carleton.ca
John Suhayda
>
>In the movie "Back To The Future, Part III",
>
While we're on the subject of steam in the movies, what engine or engines
are used in the movie "Iron Will"? We rented the video this past weekend,
and there is a lot of railroad action. The plot is based on a dogsled race
sponsored by the president of the Great Northern Railroad, and his special
train follows the race participants along the route. There are other trains
shown, although I suspect the same engine was used. Anyone know?
John Suhayda
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Mike Cowen
> I've got an interesting question. (At least I think its interesting!)
> In the movie "Back To The Future, Part III", they manage to run a steam
> locomotive off the end of an uncompleted bridge.
> Where was the train footage for the movie shot?
> Where was the incomplete bridge that they used to drive the train off?
> What steam engine did they use?
> Did they really destroy the steam engine or was it Hollywood's usual
> special FX that just made it look that way. (It looked real to me, but
> then again, I don't see this sort of thing happening every day)
The set for that scene was located on a remote part of Skywalker Ranch in
Marin County, California. An ideal location since this is George Lucas's
corporate "getaway" and only minutes from his Industrial Light & Magic
division that produces -all- the really spectacular special effects
(originally created to do Star Wars).
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Peter Lacey
>> locomotive off the end of an uncompleted bridge.
If this impressed you, try and find the movie "The Train" (CBS/Fox
video, (c)1984) starring Burt Lancaster; in that one they destroyed about
6 engines, most totally wiped them out. A very fine movie if you can
ignore two very peculiar plot twists.
Peter
Wayne Baldwin
JS>>In the movie "Back To The Future, Part III",
JS>>What steam engine did they use?
It was not a REAL steam engine, but a concoction. It, or at least one
of them is at Universal Studios in Florida.
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Brian Fritz
: Colin Goodall (al93...@alpha08.uucp) wrote:
: > I've got an interesting question. (At least I think its interesting!)
: > In the movie "Back To The Future, Part III", they manage to run a steam
: > locomotive off the end of an uncompleted bridge.
: > Where was the train footage for the movie shot?
: > Where was the incomplete bridge that they used to drive the train off?
: > What steam engine did they use?
: > Did they really destroy the steam engine or was it Hollywood's usual
: > special FX that just made it look that way. (It looked real to me, but
: > then again, I don't see this sort of thing happening every day)
: The set for that scene was located on a remote part of Skywalker Ranch in
: Marin County, California. An ideal location since this is George Lucas's
: corporate "getaway" and only minutes from his Industrial Light & Magic
: division that produces -all- the really spectacular special effects
: (originally created to do Star Wars).
It looked like a model to me.
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paul Veltman
: -=> Quoting John Suhayda to All <=-
: JS> From: joh...@ecs.comm.mot.com (John Suhayda)
: JS> In article <Cz1Fv...@cunews.carleton.ca>
: JS> al93...@alpha08.uucp (Colin Goodall) writes:
: >
: >In the movie "Back To The Future, Part III",
: >
: >What steam engine did they use?
No, they didn't destroy a real steam locomotive. First, I think that
they used one of the Sierra RR locomotives for the train shots. The
destroyed locomotive was a 1/4 scale model that was put together by
Industrial Light and Magic for the movie.
Regards,
Paul <vel...@netcom.com>
Hudson Leighton
JS> From: joh...@ecs.comm.mot.com (John Suhayda)
JS> In article <Cz1Fv...@cunews.carleton.ca>
JS> al93...@alpha08.uucp (Colin Goodall) writes:
>
>In the movie "Back To The Future, Part III",
>
>What steam engine did they use?
JS> While we're on the subject of steam in the movies, what engine or
JS> engines are used in the movie "Iron Will"? We rented the video this
JS> past weekend, and there is a lot of railroad action. The plot is based
JS> on a dogsled race sponsored by the president of the Great Northern
JS> Railroad, and his special train follows the race participants along the
JS> route. There are other trains shown, although I suspect the same
JS> engine was used. Anyone know?
Duluth & Northern Minnesota #14, owned by the Lake Superior Museum of
Transportation.
They tell great stories about running a steam engine at tempetures
below 0 degrees F.
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Wayne Baldwin <wayne....@dscmail.com> wrote:
>
>JS>>In the movie "Back To The Future, Part III",
>JS>>What steam engine did they use?
>
> It was not a REAL steam engine, but a concoction. It, or at least one
>of them is at Universal Studios in Florida.
Speaking of destroying engines, I was watching Silver Streak on USA last night
and wondered if they really used to CP Rail FP7's or if they were REALLY good
mockups. If they were mockups, then whoever did them knew what they were
doing. (I'm speaking of the scene where they crash into "Chicago Union Station"
at the end.)
Fred
David Alan Forsyth
>From: Hudson Leighton <Hudson....@f4052.fido.tdkt.mn.org>
>Date: Thu, 17 Nov 94 08:38:00 -0600
>Subject: Re: Did they really dest
> -=> Quoting John Suhayda to All <=-
> JS> From: joh...@ecs.comm.mot.com (John Suhayda)
> JS> In article <Cz1Fv...@cunews.carleton.ca>
> JS> al93...@alpha08.uucp (Colin Goodall) writes:
> >
> >In the movie "Back To The Future, Part III",
> >
> >What steam engine did they use?
> JS> While we're on the subject of steam in the movies, what engine or
> JS> engines are used in the movie "Iron Will"? We rented the video this
> JS> past weekend, and there is a lot of railroad action. The plot is based
> JS> on a dogsled race sponsored by the president of the Great Northern
> JS> Railroad, and his special train follows the race participants along the
> JS> route. There are other trains shown, although I suspect the same
> JS> engine was used. Anyone know?
And here in South Africa we have an annual 'Great Train Race' wherein relay
teams of road runners race against a narrow gauge train (2' gauge) from Port
Elizabeth to Loerie, about 20 miles. Train is steam hauled.
> Duluth & Northern Minnesota #14, owned by the Lake Superior Museum of
>Transportation.
>They tell great stories about running a steam engine at tempetures
>below 0 degrees F.
This should be interesting, tell us more.
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In a message on 18 November, wrote :
o > In article <1.28639.32...@dscmail.com>,
o > Wayne Baldwin <wayne....@dscmail.com> wrote:
o > >
o > >JS>>In the movie "Back To The Future, Part III",
o > >JS>>What steam engine did they use?
o > >
o > > It was not a REAL steam engine, but a concoction. It, or at least on
o > >of them is at Universal Studios in Florida.
o >
o > Speaking of destroying engines, I was watching Silver Streak on USA last
o > and wondered if they really used to CP Rail FP7's or if they were REALLY
o > mockups. If they were mockups, then whoever did them knew what they were
o > doing. (I'm speaking of the scene where they crash into "Chicago Union St
o > at the end.)
AMC ran a special about trains, which I have on tape and I think that
they talked about how that scene was done. I'll dig out the tape and
find the interview.
Robert
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In a message on 20 November, wrote :
h > Oc...@cs.Wmich.Edu ,
h > In a message on 18 November, wrote :
h >
h > o > In article <1.28639.32...@dscmail.com>,
h > o > Wayne Baldwin <wayne....@dscmail.com> wrote:
h > o > >
h > o > >JS>>In the movie "Back To The Future, Part III",
h > o > >JS>>What steam engine did they use?
h > o > >
h > o > > It was not a REAL steam engine, but a concoction. It, or at leas
h > o > >of them is at Universal Studios in Florida.
h > o >
h > o > Speaking of destroying engines, I was watching Silver Streak on USA l
h > o > and wondered if they really used to CP Rail FP7's or if they were REA
h > o > mockups. If they were mockups, then whoever did them knew what they w
h > o > doing. (I'm speaking of the scene where they crash into "Chicago Unio
h > o > at the end.)
h >
h > AMC ran a special about trains, which I have on tape and I think that
h > they talked about how that scene was done. I'll dig out the tape and
h > find the interview.
h >
According to the AMC program, they did the crash into Union Station
"Full Sized". I suspect they got a couple of scrap FP7s and pushed them
through a mockup of Union Station in a Hollywood back lot.
Flim4449
(Robert Heller) writes:Candy Stripes Smash
Hi there, I asked the same question back when this flick was all the rage
and was told they were 1:1 reproductions. I don't know where the scene was
filmed at but no doubt it was done on one of the big Hollywood stages.
Hope this helps! Bill Shippen
Curt Bianchi
> Colin Goodall (al93...@alpha08.uucp) wrote:
> > I've got an interesting question. (At least I think its interesting!)
>
> > In the movie "Back To The Future, Part III", they manage to run a steam
> > locomotive off the end of an uncompleted bridge.
>
> > Where was the train footage for the movie shot?
> > Where was the incomplete bridge that they used to drive the train off?
> > What steam engine did they use?
> > Did they really destroy the steam engine or was it Hollywood's usual
> > special FX that just made it look that way. (It looked real to me, but
> > then again, I don't see this sort of thing happening every day)
>
> The set for that scene was located on a remote part of Skywalker Ranch in
> Marin County, California.
Actually, the set is located on the Sierra railroad's right-of-way near
Jamestown, California. Or, if there is a set a Skywalker Ranch, then
there were two sets. The set on the Sierra is still there, and easily
visible from the Railtown 1897 excursion trains that run Jamestown to
Keystone and return. It is a very complete Old West town, and I believe
it has since been used for other films.
Curt Bianchi
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Don Bertino
Curt Bianchi <Curt_B...@taligent.com> wrote:
>In article <mcowenCz...@netcom.com>, mco...@netcom.com (Mike Cowen) wrote:
>
>> Colin Goodall (al93...@alpha08.uucp) wrote:
>> > I've got an interesting question. (At least I think its interesting!)
>>
>> > In the movie "Back To The Future, Part III", they manage to run a steam
>> > locomotive off the end of an uncompleted bridge.
>>
>> > special FX that just made it look that way. (It looked real to me, but
>> > then again, I don't see this sort of thing happening every day)
No, they did not destroy a full size steam engine. They did destroy a scale
model. There was a special "Making of Back To The Future, ***" that had
alot of footage on this as well as the hoverboards.
don
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Curt Bianchi
(Wayne Baldwin) wrote:
> JS>>In the movie "Back To The Future, Part III",
> JS>>What steam engine did they use?
>
> It was not a REAL steam engine, but a concoction. It, or at least one
> of them is at Universal Studios in Florida.
>
Well, I know for a fact (because I was there) that the real locomotive
used in BTFIII was Sierra Railway No. 3. A model was used for the bridge
sequence, and there may have been other full-scale mock-ups made as well.
Perhaps the concoction you are referring to was the goofy, futuristic
locomotive in the final scenes of the moving. Other recent movies that
No. 3 has appeared in are Clint Eastwood's "Unforgiven" and "Bad Girls."
It has also recently appeared in the TV series "Adventures of Brisco
County, Jr."
No. 3's film career started in 1929 on "The Virginian," which starred Gary
Cooper, and was the first "talkie" filmed away from a studio location.
Since then No. 3 has appeared in over 200 theatrical films, including
"High Noon," and countless appearances in over 50 TV series, including
"Petticoat Junction" and on and on.
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Bob Clark
I saw a show about the making of this film. They used a model for the
actual destruction shot, I believe it was 1/4 size.