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dave

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Oct 24, 2009, 1:42:06 PM10/24/09
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RHF

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Oct 25, 2009, 9:19:11 PM10/25/09
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On Oct 24, 10:42 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> http://www.solarcycle24.com/

Other than "up" . . .
which way would one look for 'Sun-Spots' ?
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dave

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Oct 25, 2009, 9:26:35 PM10/25/09
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You wouldn't want to look where the sun don't shine.

RHF

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Oct 25, 2009, 9:44:18 PM10/25/09
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Sun-Spots & Sun-Kisses & Freckles

Face It - It's hard to imagine someone having
Freckles where the sun don't shine . . .
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RHF

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Oct 27, 2009, 1:34:04 AM10/27/09
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On Oct 24, 10:42 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> http://www.solarcycle24.com/

WASHINGTON – Have you heard . . . that the
World is now "Cooling" instead of 'Warming' ?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091026/ap_on_bi_ge/us_sci_global_cooling
-source- The Associated Press [AP] not FOX News
.
How the Associated Press sought independent
statistical analyses of Global Temperatures to
determine if there is a True Cooling of Earth's
Climate that refutes the Myth of Global Warming.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091026/ap_on_sc/us_sci_global_cooling_methodology
.
Meanwhile Prez Obama and the UN are still
pushing the Big Lie of Global Warming and
the Energy Cap-and-Trade High Tax Scheme
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091027/ap_on_re_us/us_ban_ki_moon
.

dave

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Oct 27, 2009, 8:15:33 AM10/27/09
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RHF wrote:
> On Oct 24, 10:42 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>> http://www.solarcycle24.com/
>
> WASHINGTON � Have you heard . . . that the

> World is now "Cooling" instead of 'Warming' ?
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091026/ap_on_bi_ge/us_sci_global_cooling
> -source- The Associated Press [AP] not FOX News
> .

From your article:

In a blind test, the AP gave temperature data to four independent
statisticians and asked them to look for trends, without telling them
what the numbers represented. The experts found no true temperature
declines over time.

"If you look at the data and sort of cherry-pick a micro-trend within a
bigger trend, that technique is particularly suspect," said John Grego,
a professor of statistics at the University of South Carolina.

Yet the idea that things are cooling has been repeated in opinion
columns, a BBC news story posted on the Drudge Report and in a new book
by the authors of the best-seller "Freakonomics." Last week, a poll by
the Pew Research Center found that only 57 percent of Americans now
believe there is strong scientific evidence for global warming, down
from 77 percent in 2006.

Global warming skeptics base their claims on an unusually hot year in
1998. Since then, they say, temperatures have dropped � thus, a cooling
trend. But it's not that simple.

Since 1998, temperatures have dipped, soared, fallen again and are now
rising once more. Records kept by the British meteorological office and
satellite data used by climate skeptics still show 1998 as the hottest
year. However, data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric
Administration and NASA show 2005 has topped 1998. Published
peer-reviewed scientific research generally cites temperatures measured
by ground sensors, which are from NOAA, NASA and the British, more than
the satellite data.

The recent Internet chatter about cooling led NOAA's climate data center
to re-examine its temperature data. It found no cooling trend.

"The last 10 years are the warmest 10-year period of the modern record,"
said NOAA climate monitoring chief Deke Arndt. "Even if you analyze the
trend during that 10 years, the trend is actually positive, which means
warming."

Maybe you should read the shit you post links to...

RHF

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Oct 27, 2009, 5:57:40 PM10/27/09
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On Oct 27, 5:15 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> RHF wrote:
> > On Oct 24, 10:42 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> >>http://www.solarcycle24.com/
>
> > WASHINGTON – Have you heard . . . that the

> > World is now "Cooling" instead of 'Warming' ?
> >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091026/ap_on_bi_ge/us_sci_global_cooling
> > -source- The Associated Press [AP] not FOX News
> >  .
>
>  From your article:

- In a blind test, the AP gave temperature data
- to four independent statisticians and asked
- them to look for trends, without telling them
- what the numbers represented. The experts
- found no true temperature declines over time.

No Declines -and by inference- No Increase

Sun Spots = Solar Radiation = Global Weather
Global Warming Trend -or- Global Cooling Trend

WASHINGTON – Have you heard . . . that the


World is now "Cooling" instead of 'Warming' ?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091026/ap_on_bi_ge/us_sci_global_cooling
-source- The Associated Press [AP] not FOX News
.

How the Associated Press sought independent
statistical analyses of Global Temperatures to
determine if there is a True Cooling of Earth's
Climate that refutes the Myth of Global Warming.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091026/ap_on_sc/us_sci_global_cooling_me...


.
Meanwhile Prez Obama and the UN are still

pushing the BIG LIE of Global Warming and


the Energy Cap-and-Trade High Tax Scheme
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091027/ap_on_re_us/us_ban_ki_moon
.
>

> "If you look at the data and sort of cherry-pick a micro-trend within a
> bigger trend, that technique is particularly suspect," said John Grego,
> a professor of statistics at the University of South Carolina.
>
> Yet the idea that things are cooling has been repeated in opinion
> columns, a BBC news story posted on the Drudge Report and in a new book
> by the authors of the best-seller "Freakonomics." Last week, a poll by
> the Pew Research Center found that only 57 percent of Americans now
> believe there is strong scientific evidence for global warming, down
> from 77 percent in 2006.
>
> Global warming skeptics base their claims on an unusually hot year in

> 1998. Since then, they say, temperatures have dropped — thus, a cooling


> trend. But it's not that simple.
>
> Since 1998, temperatures have dipped, soared, fallen again and are now
> rising once more. Records kept by the British meteorological office and
> satellite data used by climate skeptics still show 1998 as the hottest
> year. However, data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric
> Administration and NASA show 2005 has topped 1998. Published
> peer-reviewed scientific research generally cites temperatures measured
> by ground sensors, which are from NOAA, NASA and the British, more than
> the satellite data.
>
> The recent Internet chatter about cooling led NOAA's climate data center
> to re-examine its temperature data. It found no cooling trend.
>

- "The last 10 years are the warmest 10-year period of the modern
record,"
- said NOAA climate monitoring chief Deke Arndt. "Even if you analyze
the
- trend during that 10 years, the trend is actually positive, which
means
- warming."

Oops but 'other' [Bad] Experts said :
* In a blind test, the AP gave temperature data
* to four independent statisticians and asked
* them to look for trends, without telling them
* what the numbers represented. The experts
* found no true temperature declines over time.

No Declines -and by inference- No Increase

maybe . . . the Global Warming "Experts"
ain't so 'expert' . . .

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