David Edurado's Laughable Statement - Caught Again
sidwell...@aol.com
In debate, over iRadio and Internet Radio, for cell phones, versus HD
Radio:
David wrote: "Cell phones sell a few hundred thousand to the low
millions. There are nearly a billion AM FM radios. Do you see the
problem yet?"
Motorola sold 70,000,000 cell phones last year and has sold 800,000,000
world-wide.
There are 600,000,000 cell phone GSM subscribers. What David doesn't
realize, or doesn't want to admit, is that HD Radio is going to have
to antiquate 1 billion analog AM/FM radios, so this works against HD
Radio.
David Eduardo
<sidwell...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >From radio-info.com:
>
> In debate, over iRadio and Internet Radio, for cell phones, versus HD
> Radio:
>
> David wrote: "Cell phones sell a few hundred thousand to the low
> millions. There are nearly a billion AM FM radios. Do you see the
> problem yet?"
>
> Motorola sold 70,000,000 cell phones last year and has sold 800,000,000
> world-wide.
Yes, over a period of 17 years. The average life of a cell phone is about 18
months, so that means that about 650 million of those phones are no longer
working.
US Cell phone sales of Motorola were less than 30 million units, divided
among a wide line of individual phones.
> There are 600,000,000 cell phone GSM subscribers.
In the entire world. In many countries, cell phones have substituted for
land lines, and are not used as entertainment devices. We are still quite a
ways away from any single phone (the one you harp about is still unreleased,
8 monts after its announced ship date) having more than even 1% of the US
population.
We have not even gotten into the fact that data pnone capability adds a
charge to the monthly bill. I wanted to upgrade my Palm 650 to the new
model, and foud it would be $35 extra a month for the EVDO data, that is
over $400 a year... not even worth it to me.
> What David doesn't
> realize, or doesn't want to admit, is that HD Radio is going to have
> to antiquate 1 billion analog AM/FM radios, so this works against HD
> Radio.
HD does not affect any existing radio a bit. All HD stations are backward
compatible. Just like FM stereo is compatible with the 75% or more of FM
radios that are mono.
David
<amd...@pacbell.com> wrote:
>... FM stereo is compatible with the 75% or more of FM
>radios that are mono.
>
Theoretically.
Steve
Don't you know when to leave well enough alone? This is just sad.
David Eduardo
"David" <ric...@knac.com> wrote in message
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I have not heard any complaints since the early 60's.
The only issue is that stereo operation is more subject to multipath... a
few A's run mono because of that.
David
<amd...@pacbell.com> wrote:
>
>"David" <ric...@knac.com> wrote in message
>news:4je9d25afvjlo3jqs...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:25:41 GMT, "David Eduardo"
>> <amd...@pacbell.com> wrote:
>>>... FM stereo is compatible with the 75% or more of FM
>>>radios that are mono.
>>>
>> Theoretically.
>
>I have not heard any complaints since the early 60's.
>
>The only issue is that stereo operation is more subject to multipath... a
>few A's run mono because of that.
>
>
People worry about mono compatibility a lot less than they used to.
David Eduardo
No they don't. We have mono mixdown speakers in every one of the 10
production rooms in LA. Considerably more than half of FM listening is mono,
and we want to make sure there is no phase cancellation or that things sound
different in mono.
sidwell...@aol.com
Cell phones are updated every two years, and people on average, upgrade
theeir phones, at the same time. But, HD Radio is going to have to
fight all those happy AM/FM analog radio users.. da..
sidwell...@aol.com
David Eduardo wrote:
> "David" <ric...@knac.com> wrote in message
> news:j3h9d2p8hdn8hgk87...@4ax.com...
> > On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:56:40 GMT, "David Eduardo"
> > <amd...@pacbell.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"David" <ric...@knac.com> wrote in message
> >>news:4je9d25afvjlo3jqs...@4ax.com...
> >>> On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:25:41 GMT, "David Eduardo"
> >>> <amd...@pacbell.com> wrote:
> >>>>... FM stereo is compatible with the 75% or more of FM
> >>>>radios that are mono.
> >>>>
> >>> Theoretically.
> >>
> >>I have not heard any complaints since the early 60's.
> >>
> >>The only issue is that stereo operation is more subject to multipath... a
> >>few A's run mono because of that.
> >>
> >>
> > People worry about mono compatibility a lot less than they used to.
>
> No they don't. We have mono mixdown speakers in every one of the 10
> production rooms in LA. Considerably more than half of FM listening is mono,
> and we want to make sure there is no phase cancellation or that things sound
> different in mono.
In a desparate attempt salvage HD Radio, all you do is post lies - you
are truly sad..
sidwell...@aol.com
David Eduardo wrote:
> "David" <ric...@knac.com> wrote in message
> news:j3h9d2p8hdn8hgk87...@4ax.com...
> > On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:56:40 GMT, "David Eduardo"
> > <amd...@pacbell.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"David" <ric...@knac.com> wrote in message
> >>news:4je9d25afvjlo3jqs...@4ax.com...
> >>> On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:25:41 GMT, "David Eduardo"
> >>> <amd...@pacbell.com> wrote:
> >>>>... FM stereo is compatible with the 75% or more of FM
> >>>>radios that are mono.
> >>>>
> >>> Theoretically.
> >>
> >>I have not heard any complaints since the early 60's.
> >>
> >>The only issue is that stereo operation is more subject to multipath... a
> >>few A's run mono because of that.
> >>
> >>
> > People worry about mono compatibility a lot less than they used to.
>
> No they don't. We have mono mixdown speakers in every one of the 10
> production rooms in LA. Considerably more than half of FM listening is mono,
> and we want to make sure there is no phase cancellation or that things sound
> different in mono.
In a desparate attempt salvage HD Radio, all you do is post lies - you
are truly sad..
sidwell...@aol.com
You stupid piece-of-crap - almost everyone has a cell phone, and now,
they receive Internet Radio, and iRadio shortly... HD Radio is dead
out of the gate !
sidwell...@aol.com
Cell phone hardware is upgraded, on average every two years, and
comsumers upgrade their phones at the same time. As I stated, Motorola
alone, sold 70,000,000 cell phones last year. Your rebuttals should be
a waste of time - a rocket scientist isn't needed to figure out the
popularity of cell phones. Your numbers are totally wrong, and this
study isn't even current:
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2002/BogusiaGrzywac.shtml
"iRadio" to Crowd Radio in the Dash"
http://www.rwonline.com/reference-room/iboc/2006.02.15-04_rw_iRadio_2.shtml
iRadio is going to kill HD Radio, in the dash, and table-top HD Radios
don't have a prayer against iRadio in cellular telephones (HD Radio
just gets, with limited range, local radio stations and needs a dipole
antenna mounted in a high place). This is not to mention, satellite
radio manufacturers pay car manufactures $100 for each installed radio,
plus they give free limited subscriptions - smart marketing move,
unlike the, "Discover it !", HD Radio advertising campaign - a long
uphill battle to get people to discover this fraudulent technology -
cell phones, satellite radio, iPods, etc., have already been
discovered, and their numbers are growing !
dxAce
David Eduardo wrote:
You're full of shit, oh fake one! It wipes out at least two adjacent channels.
Pull your head out of your prancing ass, boy.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
D Peter Maus
>>>
>> People worry about mono compatibility a lot less than they used to.
>
> No they don't. We have mono mixdown speakers in every one of the 10
> production rooms in LA. Considerably more than half of FM listening is mono,
> and we want to make sure there is no phase cancellation or that things sound
> different in mono.
>
>
This became a large concern at when I was at CBS, where some of the
personalities were doing their own production. They didn't understand,
nor care to understand, the concept of mono compatibility, since the
studio monitors were stereo, the production rooms were stereo, and to
check for mono compatibility required an extra step. Something they were
loathe to do.
With one guy who thought he was God's Gift, I would get an angry call
about once a week from the GM, who was listening on a stereo radio, but
in a lower signal area, so it was blended more to the mono, about a
piece of this guy's production which was virtually unintelligible. In
many cases, inaudible, because he'd discovered the polarity inversion
button on the console, and would throw once channel out of phase
because it made his pieces sound 'More stereo.'
The mono listening figure is closer to 2/3's than a half, and most
people never realize it. As long as the pilot is lit that's stereo
enough. So it becomes a real matter of concern with broadcasters that
product be compatibile with the mono.
Music mixers and producers spend a LOT of time insuring mono
compatibility when they mix down records. That can be, and has been, a
big chunk of the music productions that I've worked.
And high loss digital codecs such as those in use on most radio
stations, HD or otherwise -- usually due to a manglement edict that
expense will be concerved when it comes to server space....even for
music -- make mono compatibility even more of a concern.
David
<amd...@pacbell.com> wrote:
>
>No they don't. We have mono mixdown speakers in every one of the 10
>production rooms in LA. Considerably more than half of FM listening is mono,
>and we want to make sure there is no phase cancellation or that things sound
>different in mono.
>
Tell it to the record producers.
David Eduardo
<sidwell...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
>>
>> HD does not affect any existing radio a bit. All HD stations are backward
>> compatible. Just like FM stereo is compatible with the 75% or more of FM
>> radios that are mono.
>
> Cell phones are updated every two years, and people on average, upgrade
> theeir phones, at the same time. But, HD Radio is going to have to
> fight all those happy AM/FM analog radio users.. da..
Folks using current receivers will not notice any difference. We have over
25 on the air, and not a single indication of degradation of the analog
signals on AM or FM stations... many have been on for over a year... and I
never thought of this... the ones that are on the longest also have higher
ratings now than they did a year ago... maybe you discovered somehting... we
need to finish doing the last 40-some stations.
David Eduardo
<sidwell...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Which lie would you be referring to?
David Eduardo
<sidwell...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> David Eduardo wrote:
>>
>> HD does not affect any existing radio a bit. All HD stations are backward
>> compatible. Just like FM stereo is compatible with the 75% or more of FM
>> radios that are mono.
>
> You stupid piece-of-crap - almost everyone has a cell phone, and now,
> they receive Internet Radio, and iRadio shortly... HD Radio is dead
> out of the gate !
There are costs involved. 80% of cell phones sold are the ones that come
free with new service (people run the contract out, and switch carriers to
get the free phone) or ones that cost less than $100 with the plan. The EVDO
enabled phones are all far above this cost, and the data features add
additional monthly charges.
Add to that the fact that a significant percentage of cellular phones are
obtained and paid for by employers. They are not going to pay extra for
entertainment features that reduce productivity.
All these features you talk about are high end phones that require a monthly
charge in the $50+ range. I remind you that that is $600 or more a year, and
the median household income inthe US is around $42 thousand. We are talking
about 1.5% of famiuly income, per phone here.
Terrestrial radio is free.
David Eduardo
<sidwell...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> David Eduardo wrote:
>>
>> HD does not affect any existing radio a bit. All HD stations are backward
>> compatible. Just like FM stereo is compatible with the 75% or more of FM
>> radios that are mono.
>
> Cell phone hardware is upgraded, on average every two years, and
> comsumers upgrade their phones at the same time. As I stated, Motorola
> alone, sold 70,000,000 cell phones last year. Your rebuttals should be
> a waste of time - a rocket scientist isn't needed to figure out the
> popularity of cell phones. Your numbers are totally wrong, and this
> study isn't even current:
That is 70 million in the world. The US market is very static, with the
growth being in lesser developed nations. And no single model sells 70
million in the US, especially top of the line ones. There is a reason that
kind of phone is often not even stocked at retail... they don't sell very
many.
>
> iRadio is going to kill HD Radio, in the dash, and table-top HD Radios
> don't have a prayer against iRadio in cellular telephones (HD Radio
> just gets, with limited range, local radio stations and needs a dipole
> antenna mounted in a high place). This is not to mention, satellite
> radio manufacturers pay car manufactures $100 for each installed radio,
> plus they give free limited subscriptions - smart marketing move,
> unlike the, "Discover it !", HD Radio advertising campaign - a long
> uphill battle to get people to discover this fraudulent technology -
> cell phones, satellite radio, iPods, etc., have already been
> discovered, and their numbers are growing !
The current implementation of iRadio has not been implemented by a single
carrier in the US, a year after the product was announced. The previous rokr
was an absolute dud... most pundits say that is because people do not want
to store tunes on a phone... they want to store them on an iPod. Most people
do not want to listen to the radio on a phone, either.
The watershed moment will occur with the introduction of Clearwire, years
away, but with robust WiMAX technology, national coverage (unlike the spotty
and highly incomplete EVDO networks) and a device built to be
multifunctional, not built as a phone with add-ons glued to it.
David Eduardo
"D Peter Maus" <DPete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> David Eduardo wrote:
>
>>>>
>>> People worry about mono compatibility a lot less than they used to.
>>
>> No they don't. We have mono mixdown speakers in every one of the 10
>> production rooms in LA. Considerably more than half of FM listening is
>> mono, and we want to make sure there is no phase cancellation or that
>> things sound different in mono.
>
>
> This became a large concern at when I was at CBS, where some of the
> personalities were doing their own production. They didn't understand, nor
> care to understand, the concept of mono compatibility, since the studio
> monitors were stereo, the production rooms were stereo, and to check for
> mono compatibility required an extra step. Something they were loathe to
> do.
Ah, ha. This is why we do not let any talent do their own production. Only a
production person can do it, and the talent does the voice only.
>
> With one guy who thought he was God's Gift, I would get an angry call
> about once a week from the GM, who was listening on a stereo radio, but in
> a lower signal area, so it was blended more to the mono, about a piece of
> this guy's production which was virtually unintelligible. In many cases,
> inaudible, because he'd discovered the polarity inversion button on the
> console, and would throw once channel out of phase because it made his
> pieces sound 'More stereo.'
I never had anything that silly happen, but certainly learned from the spots
where either the bed or the vice were phase cancelled.
>
> The mono listening figure is closer to 2/3's than a half, and most
> people never realize it. As long as the pilot is lit that's stereo enough.
> So it becomes a real matter of concern with broadcasters that product be
> compatibile with the mono.
As you can tell form some of the posts, there is not a recognition of this.
I don't believe most jocks understand this. A parallel anecdote was my
experience of a time back asking in a sales meeting, "well, what percent of
listeing is in the car here in LA?" All answeres were in the 50 to 66%
range! (LA at the time had 29% in car listening).
>
> Music mixers and producers spend a LOT of time insuring mono
> compatibility when they mix down records. That can be, and has been, a
> big chunk of the music productions that I've worked.
And they also do mixes using "typical" speakers to see how the song will
sound in a car or clock radio.
I like to tell people to look for the itsy-bitsy speakers on top of the
console in every studio picture. They are not paperweights.
>
> And high loss digital codecs such as those in use on most radio
> stations, HD or otherwise -- usually due to a manglement edict that
> expense will be concerved when it comes to server space....even for
> music -- make mono compatibility even more of a concern.
With the cost of multi-terabyte RAID arrays, we have double reliability on
each of two servers, one backing up the other for a factor of 4... meaning
every uncompressed song is out there 4 times. And then backed up off site at
one of the transmitters. You can build a terabyte raid array today for the
cost of a single spot on these stations...
David Eduardo
Those little black speakers in every studio on the mixer are for "real
world" and "mono" checking.
sidwell...@aol.com
Motorola has already shipped an iRadio enabled device to stores. Back
all your statements with facts, but you can't. You can be beat on
logic, but not on words - so, there is no reason to debate you, as most
people have found out, I will simply keep posting new threads on
radio-info.com, and back them with links. Motorola sold 70,000,000
cellular phones, around the world, last year. There are 600,000,000 GSM
cellular phone subscribers, around the world. The Motorola Rokr E2,
implementing iRadio, has already been demonstrated, and is coming soon.
iRadio in-the-dash will be a serious competitor, along with Satellite
Radio, to HD Radio. Most visitors to radio-info/HD, unless they are
morons, will at least get a glimpse at alternative technologies to HD
Radio. through my new topics, backed by links. You really are a waste
of good time. If you already haven't done so, check out my new topic,
on radio-info.
D Peter Maus
> "D Peter Maus" <DPete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:uc5Bg.554859$Fs1.3...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> David Eduardo wrote:
>>
>>>> People worry about mono compatibility a lot less than they used to.
>>> No they don't. We have mono mixdown speakers in every one of the 10
>>> production rooms in LA. Considerably more than half of FM listening is
>>> mono, and we want to make sure there is no phase cancellation or that
>>> things sound different in mono.
>>
>> This became a large concern at when I was at CBS, where some of the
>> personalities were doing their own production. They didn't understand, nor
>> care to understand, the concept of mono compatibility, since the studio
>> monitors were stereo, the production rooms were stereo, and to check for
>> mono compatibility required an extra step. Something they were loathe to
>> do.
>
> Ah, ha. This is why we do not let any talent do their own production. Only a
> production person can do it, and the talent does the voice only.
That's what I tried to tell them. But...'new thinking' and all that.
We had one meeting shortly after I started there, entitled, "There
Are No Experts."
Of course my first question was: Then why do we all not have corner
offices?
I got a private meeting myself that day.
>> With one guy who thought he was God's Gift, I would get an angry call
>> about once a week from the GM, who was listening on a stereo radio, but in
>> a lower signal area, so it was blended more to the mono, about a piece of
>> this guy's production which was virtually unintelligible. In many cases,
>> inaudible, because he'd discovered the polarity inversion button on the
>> console, and would throw once channel out of phase because it made his
>> pieces sound 'More stereo.'
>
> I never had anything that silly happen, but certainly learned from the spots
> where either the bed or the vice were phase cancelled.
It was a pointless argument on my part. No one wanted to hear it.
And it's not the first time I encountered that particular abomination.
At KEEL/KMBQ, the morning guy used to do it all the time. Of course, his
wife owned an advertising agency, so, you couldn't tell him anything.
From what I hear from the guy who took my position when I left CBS,
it's still going on...it's just that the chief engineer gets the call
now, wondering when he's going to get that problem in the studio fixed.
>> The mono listening figure is closer to 2/3's than a half, and most
>> people never realize it. As long as the pilot is lit that's stereo enough.
>> So it becomes a real matter of concern with broadcasters that product be
>> compatibile with the mono.
>
> As you can tell form some of the posts, there is not a recognition of this.
Oh, no. Ya think?
> I don't believe most jocks understand this. A parallel anecdote was my
> experience of a time back asking in a sales meeting, "well, what percent of
> listeing is in the car here in LA?" All answeres were in the 50 to 66%
> range! (LA at the time had 29% in car listening).
Actually, this is a myth that was actively propagated by Manglement.
We were told at a staff meeting that most listening was done in the car.
That's why WLS had such a short turnover of the top 10 songs. And that
we needed to be mindful of this when on the air.
He didn't last long, and went to blow up a successful station in
Houston.
He had me take two days off so I could modify the radio installation
in his car before he left.
>> Music mixers and producers spend a LOT of time insuring mono
>> compatibility when they mix down records. That can be, and has been, a
>> big chunk of the music productions that I've worked.
>
> And they also do mixes using "typical" speakers to see how the song will
> sound in a car or clock radio.
Now, that's always been true. In fact, during the John Rook days at
WLS, the legends have it, that he personally auditioned every promo
through a set of A-7's at ear bleed level, and a set of speakers from a
transistor radio. Every studio I've ever worked in, including my own
(and I have my own A-7's, too--more because they're just bitchin cool
speakers than anything else), has multiple speaker systems for mix down
evaluation. In both stereo and mono. Mono compatibility is a very big
issue.
>
> I like to tell people to look for the itsy-bitsy speakers on top of the
> console in every studio picture. They are not paperweights.
The Auratone Cube was designed with this in mind. A great set of
small speakers is the, now out of print, Minimus 7's by Radio Shack. The
differences in mixdown output between the wall monitors and the Minimus
7's can be dramatic.
>> And high loss digital codecs such as those in use on most radio
>> stations, HD or otherwise -- usually due to a manglement edict that
>> expense will be concerved when it comes to server space....even for
>> music -- make mono compatibility even more of a concern.
>
> With the cost of multi-terabyte RAID arrays, we have double reliability on
> each of two servers, one backing up the other for a factor of 4... meaning
> every uncompressed song is out there 4 times. And then backed up off site at
> one of the transmitters. You can build a terabyte raid array today for the
> cost of a single spot on these stations...
Today, that's true. I have a terabyte of storage on my PowerMac in
the office alone. But when the AudioVault went in, the max practical
server drive size was 23GB (Seagates, actually) and they were huge,
noisy and very VERY expensive. We only had six of them. Over the
engineer's, and my own, objections, it was decided for us that we will
compress commercials, promos AND music.
That's not the truth today.
Nonetheless, good audio practice requires stricter attention to
detail in the digital universe today than it did in analog universe
yesterday. And where high loss codecs, or even multiple conversions of
the digital stream -- through digital STL's and then into the Omnia or
Optimod -- exist the importance of careful mixdown, and mono
compatibility cannot be overstated.
>
>
RHF
DE - What the "Turn-Over" Numbers may be the Key Factor
in the evolution and acceptance rates of the two competing
Technologies.
* Celfones with a shorter life and a younger average age of the
users would cause a faster migration to iRadio {Internet Radio}.
- - - The Celfone is the "Device-of-Choice" for the 'next-generation'
of Voice, Picture, Information and yes Radio CONSUMERS [.]
* AM/FM Radios as a longer life household appliance and an
older average age of the listeners would cause a slower migration
to "HD" {IBOC} Radio. The only factor that could cause a
faster Turn-Over rate for AM/FM Radios is Car/Truck Radios and
the fact that people turn-in aand buy new cars every 3-5 years.
- - - Note that many Car Companies are pushing XM abd Sirius
Satellite Radios as oposed to "HD" Radio.
IMHO - It would appear that iRadio has a marked advantage
with the 'next generation' of Radio Listeners.
and that's the way i see it ~ RHF
.
.
. .
David Eduardo
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>
> Motorola has already shipped an iRadio enabled device to stores.
As said before, phone manufacturers do not sell to stores. They sell to
service providers, who have th ebranded product shipped to stores.
>Back
> all your statements with facts, but you can't. You can be beat on
> logic, but not on words - so, there is no reason to debate you, as most
> people have found out, I will simply keep posting new threads on
> radio-info.com, and back them with links. Motorola sold 70,000,000
> cellular phones, around the world, last year.
Yes, around the world. An most of them were in the lower price ranges, where
80% or more of US phones live, and about 90% in the rest of the world.
They did not sell 70 million of any one model. Can't you get this?
They sold very few high end models. Can't you get this?
No model in the US sells, today, more than around a million or so. then they
are discontinued and updated.
> There are 600,000,000 GSM
> cellular phone subscribers, around the world.
So what? The average annual income outside the traditional induatrialized
nations is under $3000 a year. How many of these folks will be subscribing
to iRadio internationally? Answer:: none.
> The Motorola Rokr E2,
> implementing iRadio, has already been demonstrated,
With a not-fully-functional demo. With menues in "Engrish." 9 months late,
by the way.
>and is coming soon.
So is space travel for the masses.
> iRadio in-the-dash will be a serious competitor, along with Satellite
> Radio, to HD Radio.
No, it won't be unil WiMAX arrives. EVDO drops incessantly on web and
streaming connections. I have both Verizon and Sprint, and need both at $80
a month each to just have a connection accessable. Don't try to stream while
moving, though.
Satellite is 5 years old, and has not impacted terrestrial radio It
represents barely a half share point in any market int he US. Sales have
slwoed, and XM has revised projections, while Sirius has been caught
inflating subscribers by adding in the unsold 200,000 cars on dealers lots.
The churn is picking up, too, per the XM earnings call for Q2.
> Most visitors to radio-info/HD, unless they are
> morons, will at least get a glimpse at alternative technologies to HD
> Radio.
There are no alternatives. The FCC has authorized HD, and there are 1000 of
the nations biggest stations on already, with another 1000 signed up for.
> through my new topics, backed by links. You really are a waste
> of good time. If you already haven't done so, check out my new topic,
> on radio-info.
Probably as full of baloney as your prior ones.
David Eduardo
Please repost your observations about once every 90 days. Well spent reading
time, and I can not add a thing.
Years ago, I did syndication to Latin America, and every music tape had to
be listened to on completion in mono and in stereo on small speakers to make
sure there were no defects the big JBLs in the production room did not
reveal.
news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
David Eduardo
"RHF" <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:1154810026....@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> HD does not affect any existing radio a bit. All HD stations are backward
>> compatible. Just like FM stereo is compatible with the 75% or more of FM
>> radios that are mono.
>
> DE - What the "Turn-Over" Numbers may be the Key Factor
> in the evolution and acceptance rates of the two competing
> Technologies.
As in the time between generations of devices? Absolutely. The real issue is
the cost.
>
> * Celfones with a shorter life and a younger average age of the
> users would cause a faster migration to iRadio {Internet Radio}.
> - - - The Celfone is the "Device-of-Choice" for the 'next-generation'
> of Voice, Picture, Information and yes Radio CONSUMERS [.]
What remains to be seen is how many yonger demo consumers will buy a $250
phone with a carrier fee and a subscription fee that total, minimum, over
$50 a month.
>
> * AM/FM Radios as a longer life household appliance and an
> older average age of the listeners would cause a slower migration
> to "HD" {IBOC} Radio. The only factor that could cause a
> faster Turn-Over rate for AM/FM Radios is Car/Truck Radios and
> the fact that people turn-in aand buy new cars every 3-5 years.
> - - - Note that many Car Companies are pushing XM abd Sirius
> Satellite Radios as oposed to "HD" Radio.
>
> IMHO - It would appear that iRadio has a marked advantage
> with the 'next generation' of Radio Listeners.
It does with WiMAX, several years away. Google on Clearwire and see what it
offers. All the major broadcasters are on board for this.
EVDO does not cut it as it is a stopgap technology to wring the last bps out
of conventional cellular technology.
Steve
Doesn't matter. You're BUSTED.
Steve
BUSTED
m II
> Pull your head out of your prancing ass, boy.
Care to show us how it's done? With your experience, it should be a
snap...or more likely a minuscule *pop*. That's what the micro cephalic
exit sounded like the last time you did it...at least that's what
cuhulin says.
mike
dxAce
m II wrote:
What would you know, boy? After all, you're just a dumbass Canuck trying to
muster a little support for a fake Hispanic.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
David Eduardo
"m II" <c...@in.the.hat> wrote in message
news:b18Bg.78282$B91.19748@edtnps82...
Shhhh. You will wake the Blueberry dog.
David Eduardo
"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
news:44D50E28...@milestones.com...
Swooop. Wow. One nationality and one cultural group in one sentence.
Here's a test: build a coherent sentence (hard for you I know) in which you
offend the highest number of nationalities, ehtnicities, races and cultures.
Then you can simply cut and paste it into every response and it will cover
everyone you hate.
dxAce
David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', faux Hispanic since c.2000
wrote:
Well, you certainly offend a great number of folks, oh shilling fake one!
dxAce
Michigan
USA
m II
> What would you know, boy? After all, you're just a dumbass Canuck trying to
> muster a little support for a fake Hispanic.
Heard any more 'piratas' lately? It seems that YOU are the one with fake
Hispanic aspirations. That seems very strange, after you called the
Mexican President 'A piece of Mexican shit'.
I'm glad most citizens of the US are normal. Unfortunately, your type
ruins the image of the decent people living there.
======================================================
'Ol Vicente is a stinking piece of Mexican shit who wants to export his
'problems' to the USA.
dxAce
======================================================
dxAce
m II wrote:
> dx(Cuhulin's my mentor)Ace wrote:
>
> > What would you know, boy? After all, you're just a dumbass Canuck trying to
> > muster a little support for a fake Hispanic.
>
> Heard any more 'piratas' lately? It seems that YOU are the one with fake
> Hispanic aspirations. That seems very strange, after you called the
> Mexican President 'A piece of Mexican shit'.
I stand by my statement!
> I'm glad most citizens of the US are normal. Unfortunately, your type
> ruins the image of the decent people living there.
Much like your type has come to define CanaDuh!
dxAce
m II wrote:
> dx(Cuhulin's my mentor)Ace wrote:
>
> > What would you know, boy? After all, you're just a dumbass Canuck trying to
> > muster a little support for a fake Hispanic.
>
> Heard any more 'piratas' lately?
Yes, several.
> It seems that YOU are the one with fake
> Hispanic aspirations.
No aspirations to be a fake Hispanic here. And I don't want to become a fake
Canuck, either.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
m II
> Much like your type has come to define CanaDuh!
It would appear our school system also teaches far better spelling and
grammar. Stop torturing and killing people half way around the world and
use the money po improve things at home. the White House doesn't have to
be run by the American 'Christian' Taliban. Election fraud CAN be stopped.
mike
dxAce
m II wrote:
'po'?
LMFAO at the Canucky fool.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
Brenda Ann
"D Peter Maus" <DPete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:uc5Bg.554859$Fs1.3...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> David Eduardo wrote:
>
>>>>
>>> People worry about mono compatibility a lot less than they used to.
>>
>> production rooms in LA. Considerably more than half of FM listening is
>> mono, and we want to make sure there is no phase cancellation or that
>> things sound different in mono.
>
>
> personalities were doing their own production. They didn't understand, nor
> care to understand, the concept of mono compatibility, since the studio
> monitors were stereo, the production rooms were stereo, and to check for
> mono compatibility required an extra step. Something they were loathe to
> do.
AFRTS is really bad about this. They don't seem to understand the concepts
of either in-phase stereo or summing to mono. There are a great number of
their PSA's that are out of phase and therefor have little or no audio
(voice or bass). This holds for both radio and television, and for both
professionally produced spots and for local talent. In addition to this,
they absolutely REFUSE to run both channels of a stereo feed to their AM
stations. A complaint about this draws the response: "it's mono radio, it
doesn't have two channels, so it doesn't need two channels." Idiots.. (or
should I say ID10T's?). What engineer doesn't know the concept of summing?
Their AM stations sound like shite because half the program material is
missing. It's all satellite fed anyway, how can it be so difficult for them
to sum the two channels together through a simple dual op-amp circuit? Or,
for crying out loud, a Y adaptor out of the RCA jacks on the back of the
satellite receiver? People who don't know proper engineering should not be
running radio and/or television stations. This goes for IBOC as well as
stereo or mono analog.
m II
That's called a typographical error. You've made your fair share of them.
This could be you, except this character obviously has a hell of a lot
more testosterone than you do.
http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/grammarian.htm
But then, even cuhulin, dressed in all his women's underwear, would have
more testosterone than your type, even as he pines for bestial love.
Now, be really original and respond with: "Oh Yeah..well..THIS is YOU"
and then relist the same web page..You know you want to.
mike
Brenda Ann
> David Eduardo wrote:
>> >
>> > Motorola sold 70,000,000 cell phones last year and has sold 800,000,000
>> > world-wide.
>>
>> Yes, over a period of 17 years. The average life of a cell phone is about
>> 18
>> months, so that means that about 650 million of those phones are no
>> longer
>> working.
>>
>> US Cell phone sales of Motorola were less than 30 million units, divided
>> among a wide line of individual phones.
>>
Current stats per a news item I saw just yesterday state that there are over
200 million cell phone users in the US today, and that number is still
growing.
dxAce
m II wrote:
Nah, I'll stick with the tried and true; you're a dumbass Canuck.
Fits the bill every time!
dxAce
Michigan
USA
Mike
wrote:
> the White House doesn't have to
> be run by the American 'Christian' Taliban.
It's not - Al Gore lost.
>Election fraud CAN be stopped.
Yes, we stopped Al Gore's "let's keep re-counting until we get the
result we want" fraud attempt.
Mike
David Eduardo
"Brenda Ann" <bre...@shinbiro.com> wrote in message
news:eb376e$sv$1...@news2.kornet.net...
> People who don't know proper engineering should not be running radio
> and/or television stations. This goes for IBOC as well as stereo or mono
> analog.
>
That is bad management theory.
People who run businesses should know how to identify people who, in their
specialized area, know more than the manager. I do not expect many radio
managers to know much except the very basics of engineering, and certainly
not to know about phase cancellation and high vs low impedance outputs and
different connectors. I expect managers to put the right people in every
function from accounting to sales, and then to get them all to work as an
organized group.
David Eduardo
It can not grow much more as 200 million would be about every American over
age 16 now. Maybe there is a growth market in 7 to 12 year olds.
dxAce
Mike wrote:
Sheeesh... just a bit ago ol' M II was touting the Canucky school system. Seems
as though they're not taught very well. But then again, the system doesn't
appear to have very good material to work with.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
sidwell...@aol.com
Cell phones are here to stay, and are upgraded constantly, and new ones
roll out all the time. How many HD radios are out there - fuck you,
old man ! Funny, thing you argued how many cell phones on radio-info,
but have accepted Brenda Ann's number, even though I posted links over
there to that effect - you talk out of both sides of your fucking ass !
And, I will be posting more and more threads on radio-info, so fuck
you, old man !
sidwell...@aol.com
You probably renounced your US citizenship, to get that goddamn
Univision executive job at your Spanish based company - I guess it
makes it harder for you to get fired, but not once HD/IBOC tanks !
m II
> In article <xG8Bg.189391$S61.10064@edtnps90>, m II <c...@in.the.hat>
> wrote:
>
>> the White House doesn't have to
>> be run by the American 'Christian' Taliban.
> It's not - Al Gore lost.
My mistake. Wrong religion.
http://snipurl.com/ugpu
> Yes, we stopped Al Gore's "let's keep re-counting until we get the
> result we want" fraud attempt.
There seems to be a lot more than Gore to worry about.
http://snipurl.com/ugq0
mike
David Eduardo
<sidwell...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1154819749.3...@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> David Eduardo wrote:
>> "Brenda Ann" <bre...@shinbiro.com> wrote in message
>> news:eb37a0$tr$1...@news2.kornet.net...
>> >
>> >> David Eduardo wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Motorola sold 70,000,000 cell phones last year and has sold
>> >>> > 800,000,000
>> >>> > world-wide.
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes, over a period of 17 years. The average life of a cell phone is
>> >>> about 18
>> >>> months, so that means that about 650 million of those phones are no
>> >>> longer
>> >>> working.
>> >>>
>> >>> US Cell phone sales of Motorola were less than 30 million units,
>> >>> divided
>> >>> among a wide line of individual phones.
>> >>>
>> >
>> > Current stats per a news item I saw just yesterday state that there are
>> > over 200 million cell phone users in the US today, and that number is
>> > still growing.
>>
>> It can not grow much more as 200 million would be about every American
>> over
>> age 16 now. Maybe there is a growth market in 7 to 12 year olds.
>
> Cell phones are here to stay, and are upgraded constantly, and new ones
> roll out all the time. How many HD radios are out there - fuck you,
Lemme see... I had my first cellular in Puerto Rico in about 1989. That
would be 17 years ago.
HD started marketing last week. You are asking for an impossible comparison.
> old man ! Funny, thing you argued how many cell phones on radio-info,
> but have accepted Brenda Ann's number, even though I posted links over
> there to that effect - you talk out of both sides of your fucking ass !
> And, I will be posting more and more threads on radio-info, so fuck
> you, old man !
The last Census data, in the 2005-2006 extract, is 189,000,000. All that
proves is that over 17 years, a lot of people have become cell phone
subscribers. Something like 40%, however, are paid for by businesses and
government.
- Business phones will not have added cost entertainment options.
- High end business phones have PDAs and such, not radios built in.
- The rokr is a high end phone, at over $200.
- Of the, give or take, 200 million active phones, less than 2 million are
any one model.
- Most phones are entry level, either free with a contract or costing very
little.
- Lower end subscribers churn at the end of each contract to get a new
phone. They get cheap phones.
- Average US cellular bill for 2005 was a few cents under $51 dollars.
David Eduardo
<sidwell...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1154819911.0...@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Univision is an American company, with less than 25% foreign ownership which
is the legal limit for broadcasters.
Where do you come up with these lies.
Univision is based in LA, in the Westwood area, not in Spain.
I never renounced my US citizenship, either, dufuss.
dxAce
David Frackelton Gleason, continuing to pose as 'Eduardo', pedantic Univision
Radio shill wrote:
Here is the following from an exchange in alt.politics.immigration:
"krp":
Do you also recall claiming to be an ECUADORIAN REFUGEE who knows as well as
Cubans do having to flee THEIR country?
"David Eduardo":
You get everything mixed up. I said I was a refugee myself, as I had to
flee Ecuador to avoid being killed. In fact, I was a matter of days away from
becoming a citizen at that time.
"dxAce":
Nowadays one must renounce their current citizenship and give up their
current passport to become a citizen of Ecuador.
"David Eduardo":
Not then.
"dxAce":
Did you at any time renounce your citizenship and if so, when did you
un-renounce it?
"David Eduardo":
Are you an employee of the Department of State?
"dxAce":
Nope. And you didn't answer the question.
"David Eduardo":
You figure it out.
"dxAce":
I'll take that as a yes, you did renounce your citizenship. Any true American
would never hesitate in answering that question.
"David Eduardo":
It is simply none of your business.
"dxAce":
Ahhhh... another 'YES'. You really are a worthless piece of shit, aren't you,
Frackelton?
-------------------------------
More insight into the workings of David Frackelton Gleason, posing as
'Eduardo'... shill for Univision, and apparently a very disloyal American as
well.
David Eduardo
>
>> >
>> > You probably renounced your US citizenship, to get that goddamn
>> > Univision executive job at your Spanish based company - I guess it
>> > makes it harder for you to get fired, but not once HD/IBOC tanks !
>>
>> Univision is an American company, with less than 25% foreign ownership
>> which
>> is the legal limit for broadcasters.
>>
>> Where do you come up with these lies.
>>
>> Univision is based in LA, in the Westwood area, not in Spain.
>>
>> I never renounced my US citizenship, either, dufuss.
>
> Here is the following from an exchange in alt.politics.immigration:
Where in the out of context snippets does it say I renounced citizenship?
You are simply wrong again.
dxAce
David Frackelton Gleason, prancing as 'Eduardo', and fake Hispanic since c.2000
wrote:
Out of context? It's pretty much on target, Edweenie!
LMFAO at the dufuss who obfuscates, prances, dances and essentially tries to
pull the wool over everyone's eyes.
And by the way boy, you're still a fake Hispanic.
Now prance along 'tard, and try to sell your snake oil elsewhere.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
Steve
So, let's see some proof of your Ecuadorian citizenship.
David Eduardo
"Steve" <sdan...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
news:1154823394.2...@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> So, let's see some proof of your Ecuadorian citizenship.
>
Never was, never have been. I was at one point just a short step from
becoming one, however. That did not require renouncing US Citizenship,
however. It did allow me to own broadcast licenses in my own name, rather
than through a corporation.
cuh...@webtv.net
wouldn't think about women.It ain't good for your health!
cuhulin
Steve
Then it was wrong of you to claim to be an Ecuadorian refugee. It was
wrong, period.
Brenda Ann
> David Eduardo wrote:
>> It can not grow much more as 200 million would be about every American
>> over
>> age 16 now. Maybe there is a growth market in 7 to 12 year olds.
A lot of business people own more than one cell phone... one for business
and one for personal use.
David Eduardo
<cuh...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:24580-44D...@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net...
> The Treasure of the Sierra Madre.Walter Huston said,If I was you boys,I
> wouldn't think about women.It ain't good for your health!
Or that of your dog.
David Eduardo
"Refugee from Ecuador" quite accurately describes what I went through. And
that is what I said.
dxAce
David Eduardo wrote:
> "Steve" <sdan...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> news:1154826773.5...@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > David Eduardo wrote:
> >> "Steve" <sdan...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> >> news:1154823394.2...@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> > So, let's see some proof of your Ecuadorian citizenship.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Never was, never have been. I was at one point just a short step from
> >> becoming one, however. That did not require renouncing US Citizenship,
> >> however. It did allow me to own broadcast licenses in my own name, rather
> >> than through a corporation.
> >
> > Then it was wrong of you to claim to be an Ecuadorian refugee. It was
> > wrong, period.
>
> "Refugee from Ecuador" quite accurately describes what I went through. And
> that is what I said.
Nah, they simply kicked your ass out. And since you were not yet a citizen they
had every right to do so.
So you can 'claim' to be a refugee from Ecuador all day long, since it seems to
fit your 'story', but that doesn't necessarily make it factual.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
David Eduardo
Of the hundreds and hundreds where I work that have company phones, I know
only one who has a second phone, and that is because she has a handicapped
daughter who can only send text messages. On airplanes, i do not think I
have ever seen anyone put away two phones.
I know there are some, but it is not very common.
David Eduardo
OK, here are the steps.
1. Associate "Ecos de la Montaña" 660 AM in Quito with "Diario El Tiempo"
2. Broadcast news and commentary prepared by El Tiempo against the junta.
3. Associate with Jaime Nebot (partner in Carrousel 660 in Guayaquil) from
the CFP party, the opposition party.
4. Receive visit from a bunch of soldiers armed with rifles whose officer
gives me 24 hours to abandon the country.
5. Leave 12 radio stations, home, property, etc.
6. Associate at El Tiempo was murdered instead of being removed.
Overall, I got better treatment than the citizen, who was killed.
dxAce
David Eduardo wrote:
Yada, yada, yada. You can bend it, fold it and staple it ad nauseum, but
like I said, boy, they simply kicked your ass out.
And, it would seem that you still haven't learned to control your diarrhoea of
the mouth.
Now please, try to pay attention.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
Steve
David Eduardo wrote:
> "Steve" <sdan...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> news:1154826773.5...@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > David Eduardo wrote:
> >> "Steve" <sdan...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> >> news:1154823394.2...@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> > So, let's see some proof of your Ecuadorian citizenship.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Never was, never have been. I was at one point just a short step from
> >> becoming one, however. That did not require renouncing US Citizenship,
> >> however. It did allow me to own broadcast licenses in my own name, rather
> >> than through a corporation.
> >
> > Then it was wrong of you to claim to be an Ecuadorian refugee. It was
> > wrong, period.
>
> "Refugee from Ecuador" quite accurately describes what I went through. And
> that is what I said.
You misrepresented yourself. You lied about who you are.
m II
I do believe he is BUSTED
(and the size D cups on his bras prove it). How is your women's wear
wardrobe coming along, cuhulin? I bet your old Army buddies would get
quite a shock, eh?
mike
m II
> And, it would seem that you still haven't learned to control your diarrhoea of
> the mouth.
That seems to be far beyond your own skill set, you antisocial misfit.
Learn some manners and stop drinking.
mike
m II
> You misrepresented yourself. You lied about who you are.
>
Would that be like you posting here as different people?
mike
Steve
Compared to you I am a mere piker.
m II
care to show me what you are talking about? I've used my one and only
name here since before 1999
mike II
mi...@sushi.com
We all call him DXAss for a reason.
Oh, and let me guess. He will call me 'tard boy.
Steve
What about before then? I'm pretty sure I saw, e.g., a post by your
under the name of "Dr. Moreau" on the topic of psylocybin cultivation,
whatever that is. But I don't really see why this matters, frankly. You
have never, to my knowledge, lied about your professional status, your
ethnicity or anything else.
Joe from Kokomo
> And, I will be posting more and more threads on radio-info, so fuck
> you, old man !
What's with this "old man" shit?
If *YOU'RE* lucky, you'll get to be an "old man".
If *WE* are lucky, you won't.
Bwaaahaaaahaaaaa
Joe from Kokomo
> "Steve" <sdan...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
>> Then it was wrong of you to claim to be an Ecuadorian refugee. It was
>> wrong, period.
>
> "Refugee from Ecuador" quite accurately describes what I went through. And
> that is what I said.
Poor Steve. First, that obsessive/compulsive problem with "busted" and
now a comprehension problem.
He STILL doesn't comprehend the difference between an "Ecuadorian
refugee" and "a refugee from Ecuador".
Hey, wait a minute. Are we really sure Obsessive Steve and dxDinglberry
Steve aren't one and the same? Both obsessed with words (busted, 'tard);
both have a comprehension problem. Ya gotta wonder.
Joe from Kokomo
Yep, just can't seem to handle that fire water.
David
<amd...@pacbell.com> wrote:
>
>"David" <ric...@knac.com> wrote in message
>news:cgp9d2hr6d0f65uuu...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 17:00:12 GMT, "David Eduardo"
>> <amd...@pacbell.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>No they don't. We have mono mixdown speakers in every one of the 10
>>>production rooms in LA. Considerably more than half of FM listening is
>>>mono,
>>>and we want to make sure there is no phase cancellation or that things
>>>sound
>>>different in mono.
>>>
>> Tell it to the record producers.
>
>Those little black speakers in every studio on the mixer are for "real
>world" and "mono" checking.
>
>
''Little black speakers''?
''Studio''?
Half the shit today is done on laptops running ProTools.
Steve
Nice post, Tardo.
David Eduardo
And the problem is that those who record that way do not do a mixdown and
test it using speakers like that that are intended to test in mono and on
more real world environments.
I did a jingle session two weeks ago at a studio that was mostly ProTools
but they had a complete speaker system and they did the usual mono and small
speaker stereo check. The only difference, in fact, was that the studio had
a computer monitor array and keyboards rather than a big mixer.... it had
the same dimensions, outboard effects equipment, isolated (including floor
and walls) session studio, etc.
As long as people use "ears" to listen, there will be a right and wrong way
to audition audio.
David Eduardo
You are dxAss.
Steve
David Eduardo wrote:
> "Steve" <sdan...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> news:1154872977.3...@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Joe from Kokomo wrote:
> >> David Eduardo wrote:
> >> > "Steve" <sdan...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> >>
> >> >> Then it was wrong of you to claim to be an Ecuadorian refugee. It was
> >> >> wrong, period.
> >> >
> >> > "Refugee from Ecuador" quite accurately describes what I went through.
> >> > And
> >> > that is what I said.
> >>
> >> Poor Steve. First, that obsessive/compulsive problem with "busted" and
> >> now a comprehension problem.
> >>
> >> He STILL doesn't comprehend the difference between an "Ecuadorian
> >> refugee" and "a refugee from Ecuador".
> >>
> >> Hey, wait a minute. Are we really sure Obsessive Steve and dxDinglberry
> >> Steve aren't one and the same? Both obsessed with words (busted, 'tard);
> >> both have a comprehension problem. Ya gotta wonder.
> >
> > Nice post, Tardo.
>
> You are dxAss.
You are delusional.
Telamon
They are not the same person. They both have posting histories that show
they are different people.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
sidwell...@aol.com
David Eduardo wrote:
> <sidwell...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1154790665.6...@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> > >From radio-info.com:
> >
> > In debate, over iRadio and Internet Radio, for cell phones, versus HD
> > Radio:
> >
> > David wrote: "Cell phones sell a few hundred thousand to the low
> > millions. There are nearly a billion AM FM radios. Do you see the
> > problem yet?"
> >
> > Motorola sold 70,000,000 cell phones last year and has sold 800,000,000
> > world-wide.
>
> Yes, over a period of 17 years. The average life of a cell phone is about 18
> months, so that means that about 650 million of those phones are no longer
> working.
>
> US Cell phone sales of Motorola were less than 30 million units, divided
> among a wide line of individual phones.
>
> > There are 600,000,000 cell phone GSM subscribers.
>
> In the entire world. In many countries, cell phones have substituted for
> land lines, and are not used as entertainment devices. We are still quite a
> ways away from any single phone (the one you harp about is still unreleased,
> 8 monts after its announced ship date) having more than even 1% of the US
> population.
>
> We have not even gotten into the fact that data pnone capability adds a
> charge to the monthly bill. I wanted to upgrade my Palm 650 to the new
> model, and foud it would be $35 extra a month for the EVDO data, that is
> over $400 a year... not even worth it to me.
>
> > What David doesn't
> > realize, or doesn't want to admit, is that HD Radio is going to have
> > to antiquate 1 billion analog AM/FM radios, so this works against HD
> > Radio.
>
> HD does not affect any existing radio a bit. All HD stations are backward
> compatible. Just like FM stereo is compatible with the 75% or more of FM
> radios that are mono.
David's latest laughable statement, on radio-info.com, was that most
people can't afford a $150 yearly subscription to Satellite Radio !
David Eduardo
<sidwell...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1154991700.8...@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> HD does not affect any existing radio a bit. All HD stations are backward
>> compatible. Just like FM stereo is compatible with the 75% or more of FM
>> radios that are mono.
>
> David's latest laughable statement, on radio-info.com, was that most
> people can't afford a $150 yearly subscription to Satellite Radio !
>
50% of the UD families make under $41 thousand a year. You figure it out.
Telamon
"David Eduardo" <amd...@pacbell.com> wrote:
What is a UD family?
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
cuh...@webtv.net
people with cell phones glued to their ears?
Everybody has a cell phone but me.I dont want a cell phone.If I want
phone sex (Hya Becky,in Montana) all I have to do is plug my land line
phone in and have at it.Am I going to be driving to the food store and
flirting with those women shoppers at the Goodwill store with a cell
phone glued to my ear? NO,I am not.
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
morning.$48.99 plus $3.43 taxes for Total Choice Plus monthly.Over 160
channels I get and I only watch a few of them for old,old movies I
like.Over a dollar a day,I reckon it's worth it to me.At leat it keeps
me inside and out of trouble.
cuhulin
RHF
David Eduardo wrote:
> <sidwell...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1154991700.8...@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >> HD does not affect any existing radio a bit. All HD stations are backward
> >> compatible. Just like FM stereo is compatible with the 75% or more of FM
> >> radios that are mono.
> >
> > David's latest laughable statement, on radio-info.com, was that most
> > people can't afford a $150 yearly subscription to Satellite Radio !
> >
>
- 50% of the UD families make under $41 thousand a year.
- You figure it out.
DE,
So what Percentage of these UD Families
with Incomes under $41K per year have / own :
* Cable TV and/or Direct Satellite TV ?
* A Home Telephone plus a Celfone ?
* A Home Computer plus Internet Hook-Up ?
* A Car or Truck with a AM/FM Radio in it ?
FWIW - All of these have Fixed Monthly Costs
that far exceed $150 per year -and- All are based
on People's "Wants" not 'needs'.
Question - Will current and future AM Radio Marketing
make People WANT "HD" {IBOC} AM Radio ? ? ?
"HD" {IBOC} AM Radio needs to become a Product
that People 'feel' they Need {Want} to Listen to :
Because they 'feel' it Entertains and Informs them
better then any of their 'other' Media choices.
Because It's There ! -and- Because It's Free !
Is not Answer that makes me want to Listen ~ RHF
.
.
. .
David Eduardo
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield-8...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
Sorry... "US" as in USA.
David Eduardo
"RHF" <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>
> David Eduardo wrote:
>> <sidwell...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:1154991700.8...@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> >>
>> >> HD does not affect any existing radio a bit. All HD stations are
>> >> backward
>> >> compatible. Just like FM stereo is compatible with the 75% or more of
>> >> FM
>> >> radios that are mono.
>> >
>> > David's latest laughable statement, on radio-info.com, was that most
>> > people can't afford a $150 yearly subscription to Satellite Radio !
>> >
>>
>
> - 50% of the UD families make under $41 thousand a year.
> - You figure it out.
>
> DE,
>
> So what Percentage of these UD Families
> with Incomes under $41K per year have / own :
>
> * Cable TV and/or Direct Satellite TV ?
>
> * A Home Telephone plus a Celfone ?
>
> * A Home Computer plus Internet Hook-Up ?
>
> * A Car or Truck with a AM/FM Radio in it ?
At some point, a family at or below the median national income will decide
what is essential (like cable and a cellphone and, maybe, high speed
internet) and say, "enough!"
There is a trend with the telcos and cable providers to bundle phone, TV and
connectivity. Anything else,, like satellite, is an additional expense that
is very easy to drop if, for example, your adjustable rate mortgage payment
increases.
Steve
If you want to apologize for something, apologize for lying about your
name, race, nationality and professional background--not for a typo.
Steve
Oh, and nice to see that you're back from Kokomo now :)
dxAce
Here's another example of you saying "You figure it out.":
The following is from an exchange in alt.politics.immigration:
"krp":
Do you also recall claiming to be an ECUADORIAN REFUGEE who knows as well as
Cubans do having to flee THEIR country?
"David Eduardo":
You get everything mixed up. I said I was a refugee myself, as I had to
flee Ecuador to avoid being killed. In fact, I was a matter of days away from
becoming a citizen at that time.
"dxAce":
Nowadays one must renounce their current citizenship and give up their
current passport to become a citizen of Ecuador.
"David Eduardo":
Not then.
"dxAce":
Did you at any time renounce your citizenship and if so, when did you
un-renounce it?
"David Eduardo":
Are you an employee of the Department of State?
"dxAce":
Nope. And you didn't answer the question.
"David Eduardo":
You figure it out.
"dxAce":
I'll take that as a yes, you did renounce your citizenship. Any true American
would never hesitate in answering that question.
"David Eduardo":
It is simply none of your business.
"dxAce":
Ahhhh... another 'YES'. You really are a worthless piece of shit, aren't you,
Frackelton?
-------------------------------
More insight into the workings of David Frackelton Gleason, posing as
'Eduardo'... shill for Univision, and apparently a very disloyal American as
well?
Telamon
"David Eduardo" <amd...@pacbell.com> wrote:
> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:telamon_spamshield-8...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
> > In article <cWTBg.5412$kO3....@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>,
> > "David Eduardo" <amd...@pacbell.com> wrote:
> >
> >> <sidwell...@aol.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1154991700.8...@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >> >>
> >> >> HD does not affect any existing radio a bit. All HD stations are
> >> >> backward
> >> >> compatible. Just like FM stereo is compatible with the 75% or more of
> >> >> FM
> >> >> radios that are mono.
> >> >
> >> > David's latest laughable statement, on radio-info.com, was that most
> >> > people can't afford a $150 yearly subscription to Satellite Radio !
> >> >
> >>
> >> 50% of the UD families make under $41 thousand a year. You figure it out.
> >
> > What is a UD family?
>
> Sorry... "US" as in USA.
OK I understand now.
Well, 41k in Florida would be enough to live on but not in California
where costs are higher. Rent is a lot less in Florida for example as
housing is about a third of what it is around my location.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
David Eduardo
Actually, I am in NY at our station.
David Eduardo
Jeeze. My name is the one I was given, all 4 parts... my race can not be
changed (nor can yours), and I am the same nationality I have been since
birth. What the hell are you talking about.
If you want to complain about an NAB convention program error, call the NAB.
cuh...@webtv.net
Interlachen,Florida.It isn't far from Crystal Beach,Florida.I wonder how
much money I could rent out my half acre of Florida Paradise for?
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
call me anything as long as it's in time for supper.
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
buddy once told me.He retired out of the U.S.Navy,about thirty something
years,four years Active Duty on the USS Ticonderoga,so I reckon he
should know. www.devilfinder.com USS Ticonderoga
cuhulin