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Eduardo - more FMs than AMs going dark!

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BoobleStubble

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Dec 17, 2008, 8:54:38 PM12/17/08
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Brenda Ann

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Dec 17, 2008, 9:31:14 PM12/17/08
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"BoobleStubble" <ibiqu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/status/silent.html
>
> LMFAO!

Most of those FM's are locals that went dark, and the translators they took
with them. Some are stations that moved frequency and the original frequency
went dark at the same time the new one went online. The only one I know for
sure why it went dark was 104.5 in The Dalles, OR. It went out of business
recently after about 30 years on the air. It originally started as a small
local run by a paraplegic and gradually grew into a 100KW full service
station that could be heard pretty well on the east end of Portland (about
70 miles away).

The remainder were LPFM's, mostly run by churches, that probably either went
dark because of IBOC sideband interference or just figured it wasn't worth
their trouble to keep the station up and running (it's a lot more difficult
to maintain a radio station than all those churches thought when they
snarfed up all those LPFM frequencies!)


cuh...@webtv.net

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Dec 17, 2008, 9:01:05 PM12/17/08
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David Eduardo

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Dec 18, 2008, 2:06:10 AM12/18/08
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"BoobleStubble" <ibiqu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/status/silent.html
>
> LMFAO!

As Brenda Ann correctly notes, most of these are LPFMs, which are
non-commercial low power community stations that depend on volunteers to
operated. The rest are very rural and small town stations that appear to be
unsustainable.

The point you seem to be making is in no way proven by LPFMs surrendering
their licenses.

RHF

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Dec 18, 2008, 8:23:32 AM12/18/08
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On Dec 17, 5:54 pm, BoobleStubble <ibiquity...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/status/silent.html
>
> LMFAO!

One more Anti-Radio Post by Screen ID "BoobleStubble"

'BoobleStubble' initials "BS" how appropriate ~ RHF
.
The present Number of US American Radio Stations that are
Authorized to Transmit IBOC "HD" Digital Radio Signals :

* AM = 271 out of a Total of 4778 ~ 5.7%
-fwiw- Ten Years Ago the Total AM Radio Stations
was 4727 {Decade Growth of 1.1%}

* FM = 1374 out of a Total of 9346 ~ 14.7%
-fwiw- Ten Years Ago the Total FM Radio Stations
was 7602 {Decade Growth of 22.9%}

The Future of Terrestrial Radio Broadcasting is FM Radio
and the Future of FM Radio is IBOC Multi-Channel "HD"
Radio :

The Answer to the Growth of Terrestrial Radio Broadcasting
in the USA is an Expanded FM Radio Band from 76 MHz to
88 MHz with 60 More FM Radio Channels and and more
available FM Radio Channels for the migration of former AM
Radio Stations to improve the Local Service Signal Levels
of those AM Radio Stations.
{Better Local Public Service Via FM Radio}
.
Expanding the FM Radio Band from 76 MHz to 88 MHz
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/93586e2bf667afb2
.
Forget IBOC : AM & FM Radio Featuring the Right Content
for the Right Audience : It $ell$
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/192325ec3b3dd453
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/d8dd8d5d3b0865c7
.
RHF's Plan For The "HD" AM/MW Radio Band
- Going All Digital And Beyond !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e0c90cb1dfb18bc5
.
Expand the FM Radio Band -by- Moving AM Radio Stations
to Old TV Channels 5 & 6 !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/8b403d27fe07c27f
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/92eec9db49629a49
.
.

Dave

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Dec 18, 2008, 9:05:45 AM12/18/08
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RHF wrote:

> - Going All Digital And Beyond !

"All Digital" means more government control over what you see and hear.
Resist, damn it!

RHF

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Dec 18, 2008, 12:31:43 PM12/18/08
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On Dec 18, 6:05 am, Dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
- - RHF wrote:
- - Going All Digital And Beyond !

- "All Digital" means more government control
- over what you see and hear.
- Resist, damn it!

Dave - OK I will 'resist' your Damn It ! - Not. ~ RHF
.

norml

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Dec 18, 2008, 1:21:02 PM12/18/08
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"Brenda Ann" <bre...@shinbiro.com> wrotf:

You'd think they might have remembered learning that same lesson about AMs
in the '20s.

Norm

PocketRadio

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Dec 18, 2008, 6:06:42 PM12/18/08
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> Expanding the FM Radio Band from 76 MHz to 88 MHzhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/93586e2bf667afb2

> �.
> Forget IBOC : AM & FM Radio Featuring the Right Content
> for the Right Audience : It $ell$http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/192325ec3b3dd453http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/d8dd8d5d3b0865c7

> �.
> RHF's Plan For The "HD" AM/MW Radio Band
> - Going All Digital And Beyond !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e0c90cb1dfb18bc5> �.
> �.

HD Radio is a farce!

http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com

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Region
Continent Visits Pages/Visit Avg. Time on Site % New Visits Bounce
Rate
11,828 visits came from 75 countries/territories

1. United States 10,982 1.84 00:04:50 75.55% 74.61%
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3. United Kingdom 70 1.29 00:01:28 98.57% 90.00%
4. Germany 68 1.09 00:00:41 95.59% 92.65%
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7. Romania 24 1.08 00:00:03 95.83% 91.67%
8. Australia 22 1.36 00:02:37 100.00% 81.82%
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11. (not set) 16 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
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13. Netherlands 15 1.40 00:01:00 93.33% 73.33%
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18. Italy 11 1.09 00:00:03 100.00% 90.91%
19. Spain 10 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
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21. Switzerland 10 1.30 00:00:11 90.00% 80.00%
22. Puerto Rico 10 1.40 00:00:36 50.00% 70.00%
23. Belgium 9 1.22 00:00:06 100.00% 77.78%
24. Argentina 7 1.29 00:03:16 100.00% 71.43%
25. Poland 7 1.14 00:00:12 100.00% 85.71%
26. Greece 6 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
27. Norway 6 1.17 00:00:05 100.00% 83.33%
28. Russia 6 2.00 00:14:49 33.33% 50.00%
29. Philippines 6 1.33 00:00:27 100.00% 66.67%
30. Finland 5 1.20 00:00:52 100.00% 80.00%
31. Hong Kong 5 1.00 00:00:00 80.00% 100.00%
32. Jamaica 5 1.40 00:00:44 80.00% 60.00%
33. Hungary 5 2.00 00:00:39 100.00% 80.00%
34. China 5 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
35. Austria 5 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
36. Latvia 5 1.20 00:00:19 80.00% 80.00%
37. Singapore 4 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
38. Bulgaria 3 1.33 00:01:07 100.00% 66.67%
39. Czech Republic 3 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
40. Ireland 3 2.00 00:02:16 100.00% 33.33%
41. Slovakia 3 1.33 00:01:12 100.00% 66.67%
42. Pakistan 3 1.33 00:01:29 100.00% 66.67%
43. South Korea 3 1.00 00:00:00 66.67% 100.00%
44. Indonesia 3 1.33 00:02:35 100.00% 66.67%
45. United Arab Emirates 2 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
46. Morocco 2 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
47. Slovenia 2 1.00 00:00:00 50.00% 100.00%
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49. Israel 2 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
50. Trinidad and Tobago 2 1.50 00:02:50 100.00% 50.00%
51. Turkey 2 1.50 00:00:22 100.00% 50.00%
52. Colombia 2 1.50 00:01:31 100.00% 50.00%
53. Ghana 1 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
54. Dominican Republic 1 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
55. Ukraine 1 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
56. Iran 1 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
57. Tanzania 1 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
58. Samoa 1 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
59. Somalia 1 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
60. Malta 1 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
61. Luxembourg 1 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
62. Serbia 1 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
63. Bangladesh 1 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
64. Chile 1 5.00 00:02:58 0.00% 0.00%
65. Sri Lanka 1 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
66. Thailand 1 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
67. Costa Rica 1 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
68. Botswana 1 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
69. Ecuador 1 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
70. Egypt 1 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
71. Aruba 1 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
72. Nicaragua 1 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
73. U.S. Virgin Islands 1 2.00 00:02:04 100.00% 0.00%
74. Tunisia 1 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%
75. Denmark 1 1.00 00:00:00 100.00% 100.00%

LMFAO, RHF!!!

RHF

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Dec 18, 2008, 10:59:59 PM12/18/08
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> > for the Right Audience : It $ell$http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/192325ec3b3dd4...

> > .
> > RHF's Plan For The "HD" AM/MW Radio Band
> > - Going All Digital And Beyond !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e0c90cb1dfb18bc5
> > .
> > Expand the FM Radio Band -by- Moving AM Radio Stations
> > to Old TV Channels 5 & 6 !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/8b403d27fe07c2...

- LMFAO, RHF!!!

(OT) : PONG - PocketRadio You Put The "F" in LM_AO ! ~ RHF

PR - Sadly everyone knows that in your 'special case' : The
"F" stands for "Farce" and not the more common F-Word.

PR -if- I understand your 'math' correctly
The Number One {Unity} = 1 and that is 1.00
Which is 100.00% = 100% and that only took
00:00:00 to figure out - - now that's profound - -

PLEASE - Everyone GoTo : HD Radio "Farce" .Blog Spot
http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com
.Com and make PocketRadio's Day

PR - Say the initials for Blog Spot are "BS"
how very appropriate ~ RHF
.
Set Newsgroup Reader Filters for :
(OT) = OT = Off-Topic
RHF
BoobleStubble
PocketRadio
PONG = Ping-Pong Game
IBOC
hdradio = HD Radio
farce = Farce
blogspot = Blog Spot
.

SX-25

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Dec 19, 2008, 9:53:52 AM12/19/08
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When are the simple-minded idiots who are running commercial radio going to
figure it out that they are competing against a lot more now than just other
radio stations. With two or three conglomerates owning most radio in this
country and the fact that they are all programmed identically with the same
moth-eaten playlist of 50 tunes makes radio a last choice. If the owners of
the stations and the FCC would get back to basics...local
programming...they'd find their audience AND ADVERTISING REVENUES explode.
Where we live we can only receive a relatively few stations (compared to the
"Big City") but even so, of the handful of AMs and the fist full of FMs we
do receive there are 6 stations...SIX!!!...all airing the same ESPN Radio
satellite feed. What a joke. Who listens? We never turn on a radio anymore
because there is nothing there. It's the fault of the FCC and the station
owners who are reaping now what they have sown.

David Eduardo

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Dec 20, 2008, 1:41:50 AM12/20/08
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"SX-25" <teleg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> When are the simple-minded idiots who are running commercial radio going
> to figure it out that they are competing against a lot more now than just
> other radio stations. With two or three conglomerates owning most radio in
> this country and the fact that they are all programmed identically with
> the same moth-eaten playlist of 50 tunes makes radio a last choice.

The top 3 groups, combined, own less than 10% of all radio stations in the
US.

There is vastly more format diversity than in the 50's and 60's and the days
of limited ownership.

>If the owners of the stations and the FCC would get back to basics...local
>programming...

People never ask for local programming. they ask for good and entertaining
programming. Remember, radios first several decades was based almost totally
on network national programming.

Dave

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Dec 20, 2008, 8:23:35 AM12/20/08
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You are delusional.

David Eduardo

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Dec 20, 2008, 11:30:52 AM12/20/08
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"Dave" <da...@dave.dave> wrote in message
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In tens of thousands of interviews with regular radio listeners all over the
country, I've never seen an interest in anything local save weather during
extreme conditions and the traffic reports. The overwhelming and
overpowering interest is in "listening to something I like" which means
good, entertaining programming. Nobody really cares where the studio is as
long as a show or whole format is appealing to a group of listeners.

And, of course, the early days of radio were based on non-local programming,
as is most TV viewed today.

Bob Campbell

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Dec 20, 2008, 11:47:32 AM12/20/08
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"David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote in message
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> In tens of thousands of interviews with regular radio listeners all over
> the country, I've never seen an interest in anything local save weather
> during extreme conditions and the traffic reports.

I would add that there is a market for local sports talk, but only in
markets where there is a major sports franchise to talk about (NFL,
Baseball, etc.).

Agreed on everything else.

Dave

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Dec 20, 2008, 2:07:02 PM12/20/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

>> You are delusional.
>
> In tens of thousands of interviews with regular radio listeners all over
> the country, I've never seen an interest in anything local save weather
> during extreme conditions and the traffic reports. The overwhelming and
> overpowering interest is in "listening to something I like" which means
> good, entertaining programming. Nobody really cares where the studio is
> as long as a show or whole format is appealing to a group of listeners.
>

Show? The only "shows" are the morning zoos. You and your ilk are
incapable of properly running a radio station. Your audience has no
idea what good radio is.

dxAce

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Dec 20, 2008, 2:09:43 PM12/20/08
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Dave wrote:

Running? Heck, 'Eduardo' has actually claimed to have OWNED radio stations!

Amazing!


David Eduardo

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Dec 20, 2008, 5:42:29 PM12/20/08
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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
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Which, to all but the terminally insane and jealous like you, is the factual
truth, easily verified.

dxAce

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Dec 20, 2008, 5:44:51 PM12/20/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

Hogwash, you owned not a one.


dxAce

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Dec 20, 2008, 5:46:10 PM12/20/08
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dxAce wrote:

Heck, you even lied about having an amateur radio license.

Boggling!


David Eduardo

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Dec 20, 2008, 7:15:17 PM12/20/08
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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
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I've told you many times to write to the commercial attaché of the US
Embassy in Quito, who can probably check embassy records and show you I
owned 100% of Radio Musical, Cia. Ltda., which in turn owned a dozen on-air
stations and numerous CPs, auxiliary licences, etc.
>
>

dxAce

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Dec 21, 2008, 2:33:15 AM12/21/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

Yada, Yada, just like your non-existent amateur radio license.

Toddle off, faux Hispanic!


David Eduardo

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Dec 21, 2008, 2:38:14 AM12/21/08
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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> Yada, Yada, just like your non-existent amateur radio license.
>

As mentioned, and as anyone familiar with Latin America at the time, there
was no exam and no requirement to get a ham license. Like a driver license,
one could get one without an exam and without even being present.

dxAce

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Dec 21, 2008, 2:46:52 AM12/21/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

The call, with your name, never seemed to have shown up in any records, except
those in your fabricating mind.

Toddle off, boy!


David Eduardo

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Dec 21, 2008, 3:33:53 AM12/21/08
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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
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Do you really think that any of the smaller Latin American nations produced
accurate lists of any type of radio stations, including amateur, in the
60's?

You probably can't even conceive of how different such nations were from the
US at that time...

dxAce

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Dec 21, 2008, 3:37:43 AM12/21/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

> "dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
> news:494DF46C...@milestones.com...
> >
> >
> > David Eduardo wrote:
> >
> >> "dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
> >> news:494DF13B...@milestones.com...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yada, Yada, just like your non-existent amateur radio license.
> >> >
> >>
> >> As mentioned, and as anyone familiar with Latin America at the time,
> >> there
> >> was no exam and no requirement to get a ham license. Like a driver
> >> license,
> >> one could get one without an exam and without even being present.
> >
> > The call, with your name, never seemed to have shown up in any records,
> > except
> > those in your fabricating mind.
> >
>
> Do you really think that any of the smaller Latin American nations produced
> accurate lists of any type of radio stations, including amateur, in the
> 60's?

Perfect place then for a fabricating liar such as yourself then, eh?

> You probably can't even conceive of how different such nations were from the
> US at that time...

Toddle off, 'tard boy!


dxAce

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Dec 21, 2008, 4:12:49 AM12/21/08
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David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', wrote:

> "dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
> news:494DF46C...@milestones.com...
> >
> >
> > David Eduardo wrote:
> >
> >> "dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
> >> news:494DF13B...@milestones.com...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yada, Yada, just like your non-existent amateur radio license.
> >> >
> >>
> >> As mentioned, and as anyone familiar with Latin America at the time,
> >> there
> >> was no exam and no requirement to get a ham license. Like a driver
> >> license,
> >> one could get one without an exam and without even being present.
> >
> > The call, with your name, never seemed to have shown up in any records,
> > except
> > those in your fabricating mind.
> >
>
> Do you really think that any of the smaller Latin American nations produced
> accurate lists of any type of radio stations, including amateur, in the
> 60's?

Is that another excuse why there are no records of your station ownership, oh
faux one?


David Eduardo

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Dec 21, 2008, 12:42:00 PM12/21/08
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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
news:494E0891...@milestones.com...

There are all kinds of Ministry of Telecommunications records of the
licenses owned by Radio Musical, Cia. Ltda, and there are records showing
that, in May of 1964, my attorney, Dr. Benjamín Cevallos, incorporated that
company with me as the sole shareholder.

Very few radio stations or businesses of any kind are owned directly by a
person in their name... they are in corporations so that succession,
liability, taxation and other issues do not directly impact the personal
assets of the shareholder(s).

dxAce

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Dec 21, 2008, 12:45:52 PM12/21/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

You owned no radio stations.


dxAce

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Dec 21, 2008, 12:49:43 PM12/21/08
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dxAce wrote:

And, you held no amateur radio license.


David Eduardo

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Dec 21, 2008, 1:24:48 PM12/21/08
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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
news:494E80D0...@milestones.com...
>
>
> David Eduardo wrote:
>

>> Very few radio stations or businesses of any kind are owned directly by a
>> person in their name... they are in corporations so that succession,
>> liability, taxation and other issues do not directly impact the personal
>> assets of the shareholder(s).
>
> You owned no radio stations.

I've given you names of dozens of my employees at the time and many names of
business associated and such. All can verify my ownership. But you, a bitter
old guy on pain killers who drinks every weekend in SW Michigan, seems to
know what went on in Ecuador in 1964... despite being painfully monolingual
and unaware of how different cultures are in other parts of the world!

Here's a relatively easy question for anyone who is aware: Why did I not
have a refrigerator in Ecuador for all the time I lived there?

dxAce

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Dec 21, 2008, 1:28:28 PM12/21/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

The real question is, why have you claimed to own radio stations in Ecuador, and
claimed to have an amateur radio license when you did not?


Bob Campbell

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Dec 21, 2008, 1:31:13 PM12/21/08
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"David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote in message
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> Here's a relatively easy question for anyone who is aware: Why did I not
> have a refrigerator in Ecuador for all the time I lived there?

Because the electricity was not reliable enough? No point in a fridge when
the power is on only about 8 hours a day.


dxAce

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Dec 21, 2008, 1:33:37 PM12/21/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

> Here's a relatively easy question for anyone who is aware: Why did I not
> have a refrigerator in Ecuador for all the time I lived there?

Because Mommie didn't send you enough money for one?


David Eduardo

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Dec 21, 2008, 1:35:19 PM12/21/08
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"Bob Campbell" <b...@bob.bob> wrote in message
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Nope. Not even close.


David Eduardo

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Dec 21, 2008, 1:34:39 PM12/21/08
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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
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Asked and answered (and there are no claims, just facts)... you have not
answered my question, showing how ignorant you are of anything but your tiny
world.

dxAce

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Dec 21, 2008, 1:37:38 PM12/21/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

It may be tiny, but it's not fabricated, boy!


David Eduardo

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Dec 21, 2008, 1:36:48 PM12/21/08
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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
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Not even close. What my mother did was send the latest Top 40 hits from the
WIXY Cleveland playlist every week, a vital part of the Radio Musical
format.

dxAce

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Dec 21, 2008, 1:39:46 PM12/21/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

I'll bet that's why the station owner put up with you hanging around. That, and
you probably swept the floors too!


David Eduardo

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Dec 21, 2008, 1:55:21 PM12/21/08
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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> David Eduardo wrote:
>>
>> Asked and answered (and there are no claims, just facts)... you have not
>> answered my question, showing how ignorant you are of anything but your
>> tiny
>> world.
>
> It may be tiny, but it's not fabricated, boy!

You probably spout "America, right or wrong" while you are admiring your
ammo collection.

David Eduardo

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Dec 21, 2008, 1:54:43 PM12/21/08
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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
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Pretty funny. You are making things up to try to not answer my simple
question, which goes to prove that you have no idea or concept of what life
was like anywhere else in the world.

dxAce

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Dec 21, 2008, 1:58:51 PM12/21/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

Heck, I've been to 29 or so different countries, boy!

Now toddle off, and try to BS someone else!


David Eduardo

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Dec 21, 2008, 2:00:32 PM12/21/08
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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> Heck, I've been to 29 or so different countries, boy!
>

Like many American travelers, you obviously learned nothing of the country
except for seeing the tourist highlights, all gussied up for gullible
Americans like you.

Your hatred of Canada is an example of how little you know.

dxAce

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Dec 21, 2008, 2:02:26 PM12/21/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

Your lies and fabrications are an example of how shallow and delusional you are,
boy!


Bob Campbell

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Dec 21, 2008, 2:02:25 PM12/21/08
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"David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote in message
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Not enough food to make one necessary?

dxAce

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Dec 21, 2008, 2:05:33 PM12/21/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

> "dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
> news:494E91EB...@milestones.com...
> >
> >
> >
> > Heck, I've been to 29 or so different countries, boy!
> >
>
> Like many American travelers, you obviously learned nothing of the country
> except for seeing the tourist highlights, all gussied up for gullible
> Americans like you.

And I'm not gullible: I don't believe your fabrications and lies.


Dave

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Dec 21, 2008, 2:23:55 PM12/21/08
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Were you high in the Andes where it's always cold? WAG

David Eduardo

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Dec 21, 2008, 3:02:50 PM12/21/08
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"Bob Campbell" <b...@bob.bob> wrote in message
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Closer.

Actually, and since dxAce is clueless, it was because storing food was
unnecessary since the cook would go to the market each morning at 5 and
bring fresh things for the day. Anything left over became the meals for the
dogs. To this day, I can't take most soft drinks or juices chilled or with
ice, as they don't taste good. In restaurants at the time, sodas were
brought at room temperature, and if you wanted them chilled, you had to ask
for a glass with ice.

At one time, the manager of ECASA (Ecuatoriana de Artefactos, S.A.) gave me
one of the first Ecuadorian made refrigerators. I ended up taking it to the
stations so employees could put snacks and stuff in it; at home it had no
use.

dxAce

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Dec 21, 2008, 3:09:26 PM12/21/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

> "Bob Campbell" <b...@bob.bob> wrote in message
> news:oIudncslI_hFD9PU...@supernews.com...
> > "David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote in message
> > news:20w3l.15075$ZP4....@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
> >>
> >> "Bob Campbell" <b...@bob.bob> wrote in message
> >> news:ioudnU3z5coVFtPU...@supernews.com...
> >>> "David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:aSv3l.15070$ZP4....@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
> >>>
> >>>> Here's a relatively easy question for anyone who is aware: Why did I
> >>>> not have a refrigerator in Ecuador for all the time I lived there?
> >>>
> >>> Because the electricity was not reliable enough? No point in a fridge
> >>> when the power is on only about 8 hours a day.
> >>
> >> Nope. Not even close.
> >
> > Not enough food to make one necessary?
> >
>
> Closer.
>
> Actually, and since dxAce is clueless, it was because storing food was
> unnecessary since the cook would go to the market each morning at 5 and
> bring fresh things for the day.

Wow! The cook!

Thanks for another great tale!


David Eduardo

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Dec 21, 2008, 3:12:08 PM12/21/08
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"Dave" <da...@dave.dave> wrote in message
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Quito is not cold except at night. It goes through all four seasons every
day; day highs can be near 80, and lows around 30 at 3 to 4 AM.

The reason was, as I mentioned earlier, that there was no need to
refrigerate anything. Everything was fresh daily, and nothing was kept more
than a day. No preservatives, no salt added to keep things "fresher" and so
on.

David Eduardo

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Dec 21, 2008, 3:21:54 PM12/21/08
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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
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See how little you know?

In the middle class, a family would have a cook, a maid and a nanny and
probably a gardener even if they did not have a car. And they would send
their children to private schools with no exception.

Small groups of neighbors would also collectively hire a "sereno" or night
watchman who would patrol up and down the block and blow a whistle as he
passed each house, each time, to signify all was well.

In the upper class at that time (Latin America is generally demographically
divided in A, B, C, D, and E socioeconomic levels, A being upper and B being
middle with E being barter/unproductive) it was fairly usual to also have a
driver / messenger, too. Most middle and upper income homes were built with
rooms for 3 to 4 servants, and even condos had room for two (the others
might be day workers).


Bob Campbell

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"David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote in message
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> Actually, and since dxAce is clueless, it was because storing food was
> unnecessary since the cook would go to the market each morning at 5 and
> bring fresh things for the day.

That's pretty much what I was thinking. Everything is
grown/picked/bought/caught/whatever fresh daily and not stored. Much of
the world operates this way.

BTW, saying dxace is clueless is like saying that SW or AM is dying.
Everyone knows this, but a few are still in denial.

dxAce

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Dec 21, 2008, 3:29:06 PM12/21/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

How little? Heck, I know that you are a liar and a fabricator. What more do I
need to know, boy?

David Eduardo

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Dec 21, 2008, 3:49:06 PM12/21/08
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"Bob Campbell" <b...@bob.bob> wrote in message
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> "David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote in message
> news:5ix3l.11176$c45....@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> Actually, and since dxAce is clueless, it was because storing food was
>> unnecessary since the cook would go to the market each morning at 5 and
>> bring fresh things for the day.
>
> That's pretty much what I was thinking. Everything is
> grown/picked/bought/caught/whatever fresh daily and not stored. Much of
> the world operates this way.

What amazed me when I worked in Argentina was that the local diet included
red meat several times a week, yet there is seldom to be seen an overweight
Argentine. The answer is that the cattle are range grazed, on natual grass
and not stressed or hearded all the time. Of course, it tastes much better,
too.


>
> BTW, saying dxace is clueless is like saying that SW or AM is dying.
> Everyone knows this, but a few are still in denial.

Good point.
>

Telamon

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Dec 21, 2008, 6:22:13 PM12/21/08
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In article <cpadnXutTf1LONPU...@supernews.com>,
"Bob Campbell" <b...@bob.bob> wrote:

You saying this make you appear clueless. DxAce is real sharp on the
hobby. DxAce may have a problem with Eduardo but he is not clueless.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon

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Dec 21, 2008, 6:28:57 PM12/21/08
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In article <Zzx3l.11184$c45....@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
"David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:

The fresh food every day makes sense. My time in both coasts of Mexico
showed that to be the case but the condo's I stayed in were usually two
bedroom. The maids and other service workers lived in town just like
here. When I was looking at new home developments in Playa del carmen
they did not appear to have rooms for servants but I was always looking
in the tourist areas or nearby.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon

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Dec 21, 2008, 6:31:37 PM12/21/08
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In article <uZx3l.11186$c45...@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
"David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:

> "Bob Campbell" <b...@bob.bob> wrote in message
> news:cpadnXutTf1LONPU...@supernews.com...
> > "David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote in message
> > news:5ix3l.11176$c45....@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...
> >> Actually, and since dxAce is clueless, it was because storing food was
> >> unnecessary since the cook would go to the market each morning at 5 and
> >> bring fresh things for the day.
> >
> > That's pretty much what I was thinking. Everything is
> > grown/picked/bought/caught/whatever fresh daily and not stored. Much of
> > the world operates this way.
>
> What amazed me when I worked in Argentina was that the local diet included
> red meat several times a week, yet there is seldom to be seen an overweight
> Argentine. The answer is that the cattle are range grazed, on natual grass
> and not stressed or hearded all the time. Of course, it tastes much better,
> too.

< SNIP >

Lean fresh meat with no hormones will taste better. I generally stick to
fish and poultry.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dxAce

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Dec 22, 2008, 5:26:17 AM12/22/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

Heck, I've blown the whistle on you, boy!

You 'owned' not one single radio station. Yes, you may have ingratiated yourself
with a station or two in Ecuador (having Mommie send records, etc.), and even
answered a few reception reports (never using the faux name 'Eduardo', by the
way, which would have been logical as you were in South America, but then again,
you did not adopt that shtick until c. 2000).

And, your claim to having an amateur radio license whilst in Ecuador is
completely fraudulent.

Since YOU claim that evidence to the contrary is readily available, then why do
YOU not obtain said evidence and post it on your website? (Hose-A and Hose-B are
standing by to fabricate that material for you!).

Who is clueless? It be you, 'Eduardo'.


David Eduardo

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Dec 22, 2008, 4:52:48 PM12/22/08
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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> You 'owned' not one single radio station. Yes, you may have ingratiated
> yourself
> with a station or two in Ecuador (having Mommie send records, etc.), and
> even
> answered a few reception reports (never using the faux name 'Eduardo', by
> the
> way, which would have been logical as you were in South America, but then
> again,
> you did not adopt that shtick until c. 2000).

No, I did not own one radio station... I owed 12 on the air ones and a bunch
more CPs.

> And, your claim to having an amateur radio license whilst in Ecuador is
> completely fraudulent.

Your only basis for the claim is that in some book you have the call HC1DG
does not appear. The fact is, Ecuador's record keeping back then was pretty
deficient. In one case, I got three different grant numbers for 95.1 in
Quito, all with different calls.

And you don't understand things like being able to get a driver license by
sending an employee with a picture and a payment. Same worked for lots of
other things, too.

> Since YOU claim that evidence to the contrary is readily available, then
> why do
> YOU not obtain said evidence and post it on your website? (Hose-A and
> Hose-B are
> standing by to fabricate that material for you!).

I don't have to prove anything to you. If you go by the "guilty till proven
innocent" theory, then you need to do this on your own.

You can't possibly disprove it.

> Who is clueless? It be you, 'Eduardo'.

Nah, it's the Unabomber wannabee with thousands of rounds of ammo in his
Holland house.

dxAce

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David Eduardo wrote:

Nah, it's really you, boy!


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