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RHF

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Sep 8, 2005, 1:42:10 AM9/8/05
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JP,
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UnUn - MLB - UMB - LWA - etc
The Magic and Power of "Words" { Techno Babel }
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/4913
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The Magic and Power of "Words" {Jargon}
and the 'value' people place on them :
To Impress and/or Communicate. ~ RHF
[ The Bond of a Common Language "Techno Babel" ]
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* RF Systems - Magnetic Longwire Balun (MLB)
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* WellBrook - Universal Magnetic Balun (UMB)
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* WinRadio - Long Wire Adapter (LWA)
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READ - The Magnetic Longwire Balun Question - Which Type ?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/2381
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iane ~ RHF
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= = = In Shortwave-...@yahoogroups.com,
= = = "Jack Painter" <223bthp@c...> wrote:
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That doesn't mean they aren't idiots for using a
word that only idiots attach any significance to.
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The transformer doesn't know the difference.
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That only makes is difficult to help new hobbyists
understand what a transformer does, when nonsense
words such as "unun" get passed around.
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Jack
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dxAce

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Sep 8, 2005, 7:04:11 AM9/8/05
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RHF wrote:

What's nonsense? It's simply descriptive. I guess the 'new hobbyist' should try
to 'learn' something. I know, 'learning' is a novel concept for some folks, but
give it a try!

dxAce
Michigan
USA


bpnjensen

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Sep 9, 2005, 11:25:30 AM9/9/05
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>What's nonsense? It's simply descriptive. I guess the 'new hobbyist' should try
to 'learn' something. I know, 'learning' is a novel concept for some
folks, but
give it a try!

dxAce
Michigan
USA <

Of course you're right on this - but you have to admit, there is a
plethora of theory (as opposed to fact) and misinformation out there
on every topic, SW included, and the multiple names (balun, unun, etc)
attached to something as simple as matching transformer do not make it
easy for a novice to figure out what the contraption is, especially
when some of the names *actually* apply to other devices for other
purposes.

It isn't the equipment or theory that is hard - it is the imprecision
with which authoritative people toss around terminology, and once
tossed, fail to explain what it means. Some are even haughty and
demeaning when asked a question - how helpful is that? A novice can't
learn accurately (or satisfactorily) when explanations are in short
supply and their questions aren't answered in straightforward (and
friendly) terms. It makes no difference whether the information is
given by mouth or by written text.

Bruce Jensen

cuh...@webtv.net

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Sep 9, 2005, 12:50:18 PM9/9/05
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Maybe some Radio Books For Dummies.Sort of like those computer Windows
For Dummies books.
cuhulin

bpnjensen

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Sep 9, 2005, 1:17:51 PM9/9/05
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>Maybe some Radio Books For Dummies.Sort of like those computer Windows For Dummies books.
cuhulin <

Not a bad idea. There are, as dxAce would also point out, several
books out there that already attempt to put information out for the
beginner. I personally don't know of any modern books that try to
conveniently wrap all the most important basic points in one (including
some of the nifty tech stuff related to odd equipment and propagation
details), but there may be some.

Perhaps this newsgroup, if it could set aside its differences for a few
months, could concoct such a "book" and place it online. Certainly the
expertise is here, and as long as we could agree on careful definitions
and clear explanations, we might have something of lasting value
(instead of all the superfluous, if occasionally interesting, bickering
about hurricanes and Iraq and politics).

A nice small dream...
Bruce Jensen

cuh...@webtv.net

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Sep 9, 2005, 4:42:55 PM9/9/05
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OK,but I get credit for nameing it,Radio Books For Dummies and I want my
royalty checks too.
cuhulin

Telamon

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Sep 10, 2005, 12:05:05 AM9/10/05
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In article <1126279530.4...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"bpnjensen" <bpnj...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I don't think this topic is that simple and I can see that many people
don't understand it. Some of these are technical terms for devices that
perform certain functions but for starters they are not all the same.
It is not a trivial task to get these devices to operate with a flat
response 500 KHz to 30 MHz, which is what most people want in a
receiving system.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

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