Eton E1 (in some form or another) to be retained in Eton's product line
junius
Interestingly, the Passband.com article states that the E1XM is to be
retained and the E1 discontinued. Yet, there have been a number of
folks on the Yahoo E1XM group who have called Eton enquiring as to
this matter and who were told that it was the E1XM that was being
discontinued, while the E1 (non-XM variant) was to be retained in the
product line. I guess this story will require a bit more time before
the facts are entirely sorted out.
In any case, the Eton folks really need to get a consistent story out,
one way or the other. And they should've ensured that there was a
consistent and internally understood position on this prior to CES
2008. As it is, the Eton E1 / E1XM discontinuation bit was presumably
spawned from a comment made by an Eton rep at CES 2008. As result,
for a wide range of radio enthusiasts in various online fora, the
discontinuation story was just as big a news item as the Sat 750
unveilling. And given the apparent feature omissions of the Sat 750
(no sync, no PBT, apparently 2 bandwidth filter selections, as opposed
to the three on the E1), the overall Eton story emanating from CES
2008 was one of a retreat from the premium shortwave portable market.
Time will tell...
junius
RHF
Good News - Eton E1 XM Radio is still alive . . .
for a moment things were looking Sirius ! ~ RHF
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Steve
Interesting. There was someone on the yahoo E1 group a while back who
was talking about how sales of the E1 and its variants were lagging
far behind Eton's sales projections. At the time I thought this
sounded pretty ominous, but of course this person was silenced
immediately.
My guess is that there are many more people interested in owning a
radio like the 750 than the E1 and/or E1XM. If I want the sorts of
features sported by the E1, I'll buy a tabletop receiver. For a
portable, I want something lean and relatively simple.
Joe Analssandrini
I absolutely agree with you about your desires between a portable and
a tabletop. Though there is probably a place for something like the
Eton E1, why, if it is a portable, does it have no handle? And why, if
it's meant to be a serious (no pun intended) radio, does it have only
one external antenna input and a weird one at that?
And why such poor quality control after several years of production?
It's not for me!
Best,
Joe
RHF
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IMHO - If Eton Corp or anyone else were to "Re-Do"
the Eton E1 Radio in a more traditional Desk-Top Box
like the Drake SW8 : It would sell twice as good ~ RHF
http://www.mwcircle.org/images/resources/sw8_front.jpg
http://www.mwcircle.org/images/resources/sat800comparison.jpg
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David
Give up! There will be no more new HF hobbyist tabletop receivers.
There is no more audience. There is no more market. The world has
moved on.
dxAce
David wrote:
Suggest you move on as well.
Telamon
David <not...@nowhere.org> wrote:
Take another hit on the pipe and go to bed. Don't let the door hit you
in the fanny on the way out.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
David
Door?
junius
> radio like the 750 than the E1 and/or E1XM. If I want the sorts of
> features sported by the E1, I'll buy a tabletop receiver. For a
>
$300 is quite a bit for a radio that from all appearances seems not to
offer any performance-enhancing features beyond what you'd expect from
a DE1103, E5/G5 or a Kaito KA2100? Sure, it has the rotatable MW
antenna, but what else is it offering besides an alternate means of
charging your cellphone (not generally considered a compelling reason
to purchase a shortwave rig).
As for the tabletop HF receiver market, it's an area that's drying up,
as well. It's good that you enjoy your Ten-Tec RX-320D as you do. My
guess is that going forward, SWLers wanting a performance upgrade from
the under-$150 portables (and who want to purchase new) are going to
increasingly be compelled toward considering such computer controlled
radio options, as the premium portable and under-$2000 HF tabletop
receiver markets continue to dry up. Admittedly, there will be those
who will be drawn toward amateur rigs for SWLing.
junius
wrote:
> Dear Steve,
>
> I absolutely agree with you about your desires between a portable and
> a tabletop. Though there is probably a place for something like the
> Eton E1, why, if it is a portable, does it have no handle? And why, if
> it's meant to be a serious (no pun intended) radio, does it have only
> one external antenna input and a weird one at that?
>
> And why such poor quality control after several years of production?
>
> It's not for me!
>
> Best,
>
> Joe
>
Yeah, those requiring handles should avoid the Eton E1, no doubt about
that. Not even a shoulder strap, with which one could happily sling
the E1 over the shoulder before running out the door, as so many of us
enjoy doing with the Sony ICF-2010.
And that pesky PAL connector has been the bane of many an SWLer. It
would appear that the Sat 750 continues the PAL antenna jack
tradition. Heaven help us!
Brenda Ann
"junius" <junj...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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And that pesky PAL connector has been the bane of many an SWLer. It
would appear that the Sat 750 continues the PAL antenna jack
tradition. Heaven help us!
That jack has been a staple on Grundig radios for about three decades.
Before that, they opted for the familiar (at least to those who have worked
with car radios) Motorola pin jack. I actually found that kind of nice with
my old Grundig Transistor 1000, as I could use it in the car for SW and FM
and it was a very good performer connected to a car antenna.
Telamon
David <not...@nowhere.org> wrote:
It's just a figure of speech my addled friend.
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Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
You should read this.
<http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23431966-details/Cannabis
+casualties+at+12/article.do>
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
RHF
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David - OK make it a "Lid" instead of a 'Door'.
AS IN - Don't Let the Toilet Bowl Seat "Lid" Hit You
On-the-Head as You Crawl-into-Bed ! :o) ~ RHF
[ Meaning You Live in a Toilet. a/r Your Life's in the Toilet. ]
Note 'a/r' = and/or
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RHF
Junius,
You are not going to see the DE1103, E5/G5 or a Kaito KA2100
Radios Advertised in the National Geographic to promote them to
people who will gladly pay $300 to make a statement :
It's a GRUNDIG SATELLIT !
ok - i am stuck in the 1950s and 1960s ~ RHF
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Steve
Though, it's worth noting that Kneisner and Doering will soon come out
with the KWZ 50...the first receiver they've produced in a long time.
It's also been rumored that AOR intends to produce a successor to the
7030+, which will again benefit from the design expertise of John
Thorpe.
RHF
> On Jan 12, 8:14 pm, junius <junjun...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > My guess is that there are many more people interested in owning a
> > > radio like the 750 than the E1 and/or E1XM. If I want the sorts of
> > > features sported by the E1, I'll buy a tabletop receiver. For a
> > > portable, I want something lean and relatively simple.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > $300 is quite a bit for a radio that from all appearances seems not to
> > offer any performance-enhancing features beyond what you'd expect from
> > a DE1103, E5/G5 or a Kaito KA2100? Sure, it has the rotatable MW
> > antenna, but what else is it offering besides an alternate means of
> > charging your cellphone (not generally considered a compelling reason
> > to purchase a shortwave rig).
>
> > As for the tabletop HF receiver market, it's an area that's drying up,
> > as well. It's good that you enjoy your Ten-Tec RX-320D as you do. My
> > guess is that going forward, SWLers wanting a performance upgrade from
> > the under-$150 portables (and who want to purchase new) are going to
> > increasingly be compelled toward considering such computer controlled
> > radio options, as the premium portable and under-$2000 HF tabletop
> > receiver markets continue to dry up. Admittedly, there will be those
> > who will be drawn toward amateur rigs for SWLing.
- Though, it's worth noting that Kneisner and Doering will soon
- come out with the KWZ 50...the first receiver they've produced
- in a long time.
-
- It's also been rumored that AOR intends to produce a successor
- to the 7030+, which will again benefit from the design expertise
- of John Thorpe.
-
Steve - Naturally these will not be $300 Radios
intended for the general consumer market. ~ RHF
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David
There are adaptors readily available. What would you prefer?
Steve
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True, but that's arguably a good thing...
junius
> with the KWZ 50...the first receiver they've produced in a long time.
> It's also been rumored that AOR intends to produce a successor to the
> 7030+, which will again benefit from the design expertise of John
>
Yes, maybe the long (very long indeed) awaited KWZ50 actually shall be
released next month, and the 5 1/2 year wait (or has it been longer?)
will come to an end.
(of course, then, too, perhaps King Sebastian will finally return to
solve all of Portugal's woes)
In truth, I hope that we do see these new entrants to the HF tabletop
receiver market, but I'm certainly not holding my breath...
junius
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> - Show quoted text
Adapters are readily available. When I got my E1 a few years back, I
went on and ordered a few such adapters, and it hasn't been an issue
for me.
That said, it has posed some problem for a noteworthy group of folks,
for whatever reason.
What would I prefer? Personally, the PAL is just fine. Given the
helplessness that many have displayed in dealing with the PAL jack,
perhaps an RCA jack would have been more agreeable overall (certainly
NOT a mini, BNC, or UHF).
In any case, it should be a non-issue; but it hasn't been.
Steve
Your skepticism about whether the KWZ 50 will actually appear is
certainly understandable. Man it's been a long time in the
works...almost as long, I guess, as the E1 was! But I think it will
see the light if day. At this point it sounds far enough along that
it'd be more expensive to pull the plug on it than to roll it out.
m II
OK make it a "Lid" instead of a 'Door'.
>
> AS IN - Don't Let the Toilet Bowl Seat "Lid" Hit You
The rather poor attempt at disguising your drug talk is fooling no one.
Your crop must been very good this year. Do you sell any of it?
mike