That incredible DX powerhouse of a radio could regularly pick up US mainland
broadcasters -- KDKA comes to mind -- from its location on a tiny island
located thousands of miles from the US mainland deep in the South Pacific.
Not just at night, mind you, but right in the middle of the day.
Also, this radio contained some amazing self-generating batteries. They
never ran low, despite the fact that there was no AC plug available for
charging purposes, nor did it have any type of crank-based charging
mechanism. It's possible that the batteries might have been the product of a
secret military cold-war era attempt at attaining a self-sustaining,
zero-point energy equilibrium.
I would like to get one of these radios and hopefully some of those
batteries as well. If anybody finds one on ebay, be sure to post it here.
Thanks.
Since the mid-60's I've been looking for a woman who had the same effect on
me as "Ginger" when I was 15 or so who comes equipped with her own
wardrobe, massive high-heel collection and makeup case!
Just to keep the post on topic ... sorry can't help with one of those
super-receivers ... LOL.
Lee
I like the voice of the female I'm listening to on radio Japan at 17825
right now.
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And you're assumption that they were thousands of miles away might not be
right. Look at the evidence:
-- they had a plain, vanilla AM radio
-- stations came in clear as a bell
Maybe they were only stranded 50 or 100 miles away from Oahu!
Bob
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Remember it WAS just a "3 hour tour"
Tokyo Rose; maybe?
Except that (I still remember this as a kid) one time John Facenda, the one-time
voice of NFL Football films and the venerated anchor of the CBS O&O, WCAU, once did a
bit. Now, Philadelphia is a long way from the Pacific no matter which way you go.
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In one episode a surfer arrived on the island after spending 4 days
riding a tsunami.
I don't think she was woman. I read she was hung after the
war..therefore, she was hung *before* the war.
mike
>I seem to remember the castaways doing something to recharge the batteries.
>Didn't the professor have something where they used coconuts or something?
>
>And you're assumption that they were thousands of miles away might not be
>right. Look at the evidence:
>
>-- they had a plain, vanilla AM radio
>-- stations came in clear as a bell
>
>Maybe they were only stranded 50 or 100 miles away from Oahu!
>
>Bob
>
Actually just off the coast of Oahu on an island, I believe, in or
near Kaneohe Bay.
There were at least three radios on Gilligan's Island. The Packard Bell
tabletop (with the add on handle and telescopic antenna), the Hallicrafters
S-40B the Skipper converted into a transmitter and Gilligan's filling, which
somehow turned into a radio receiver.
There were a few radios which came with the several visitors to the island.
>
> That incredible DX powerhouse of a radio could regularly pick up US
mainland
> broadcasters -- KDKA comes to mind -- from its location on a tiny island
> located thousands of miles from the US mainland deep in the South Pacific.
> Not just at night, mind you, but right in the middle of the day.
I'm sure we have all figured out the real reason the castaways never got off
the island. It's because they didn't really want to. They were already in
paradise. And good DX is one of the more obscure, yet important, parts of
paradise.
>
> Also, this radio contained some amazing self-generating batteries. They
> never ran low, despite the fact that there was no AC plug available for
> charging purposes, nor did it have any type of crank-based charging
> mechanism. It's possible that the batteries might have been the product of
a
> secret military cold-war era attempt at attaining a self-sustaining,
> zero-point energy equilibrium.
Ah, that's the easy part. Those 60s transistor radios didn't use much
current. I've got an old Silvertone from that era, and it draws less than
15 mils at low volume settings. It's powered with six D cells, and alkaline
cells would run the radio for two to four hours a day for over a year. Half
an hour a week for a couple of years? Piece o' cake.
>
> I would like to get one of these radios and hopefully some of those
> batteries as well. If anybody finds one on ebay, be sure to post it here.
> Thanks.
>
>
Frank Dresser
I remember that episode.
To recharge the batteries the professor soaked them in some sort of citrus or
saltwater solution. I remember asking my father (an electrical engineer) if
this would really work.
I tried it, and it did nothing.
So much for expert fatherly advice.
Wonder how they powered that S40B with all the tubes?
>PS Mary Ann is the hotter of the two in my book. Dawn Wells was
>actually a beauty pageant winner in real life. Hubba Hubba!
Ya know, for a 66 year old, she's not too bad either...
(from imdb)
Dawn Wells
Date of birth (location)
18 October 1938
Reno, Nevada, USA
Ginger on the other hand looked super-hot and used to send me into
alternating hot and cold flashes.
This debate has been timeless and is the subject of a website where you can
cast your vote. I was aghast to find myself in the minority!! No
accounting for some people's taste in women I guess ... LOL. No ... I've
got it, the vote was rigged!
Lee
Here's the link: http://tbs.com/general/story/0,,36370,00.html
Lee Smith wrote:
> OK .... so I'll grant you that Mary Ann has held up well over the years and
> many of my friends sure liked the look of her, but she was always just a
> little too "girl next door" for me.
>
> Ginger on the other hand looked super-hot and used to send me into
> alternating hot and cold flashes.
>
> This debate has been timeless and is the subject of a website where you can
> cast your vote. I was aghast to find myself in the minority!! No
> accounting for some people's taste in women I guess ... LOL. No ... I've
> got it, the vote was rigged!
It must have been the exit polling after leaving her hut...
dxAce
Michigan
USA
I don't exactly remember, but it was an early episode, so I suppose there
was enough juice left in the Minnow's batteries to run a dynamotor.
I also don't know who sabotaged the plan. Might it have been the Professor,
who was enjoyed studying the flora and fauna of the island, and certainly
enjoyed the brand new experience of being the most eligible male on a
paradise island with two beautiful women? Mr. and Mrs. Howell, who were
finally able to enjoy their marriage after Mr. Howell's forced "retirement"
from the grueling 24 hour responsibilities of running Howell Industries?
Ginger, whose Hollywood career was going nowhere fast, and now had to
compete with a younger generation of shapely airheads for B-movie and
C-movie roles? The Skipper might have been faking his sleepwalking in that
episode in order to avoid the ugly mainland questions about his competence
as a Sea Captain. Even Gilligan might have had a dim glimmer of perception
that his uncanny ability to screw up at exactly the critical moment was
useful only to his friends on the island.
I say they were all in on it.
The tragedy of Gilligan's Island, one that we rrs can fully appreciate, is
that Mary Ann was too naive to see that she was surrounded by selfish
dead-enders who were abusing her trust and stealing her chance to have a
normal life.
The children laughed while watching Gilligan's Island because the shows had
a facile sort of comedy. The critics hated it because they're idiots. But
the discerning conspiratorialist can see the show for a metaphor of life as
it really is.
Sherwood Schwartz was a genius.
Frank Dresser
Ginger on the other hand must have been too shy to conduct herself in that
way for something as tawdry as getting a vote.
73 de Lee
I think I remember some type of human powered generator. It looked like an
exercise bike made of bamboo.
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73 and good DXing.
Brian
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A lot of radios and 100' of rusty wire!
Zumbrota, Southern MN
Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/
That's what I remember too.
B.H.
Your point about D cells is also useful. Go back to that vintage, and many
a radio did look like a radio, big and "powerful" so it had the space for
D cells. We've gotten so used to pocket radios that run off 9volt batteries
or a pair of AA cells that we forget that there was a time when much
bigger batteries were part of the radio.
But as has been pointed out, there were various episodes dealing with powering
the radio.
Michael
sumimasen :)
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 22:21:08 -0330, "Terry" <tsan...@nf.sympatico.ca>
wrote:
only 15 mils current pull ?
I imagine that'd last a good while !
Sorry to burst your bubble about the batteries, but I remember seeing
some episodes where Gilligan was pedalling a stationary bicycle of sorts
which was generating power. They probably used that to recharge the
batteries. (I presume they were able to salvage the generator from the
SS Minnow's engines.)
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Email: kb6...@arrl.net
Mrs Howell had enough money for us to buy the entire South Pacific if we
wanted.
One properly placed poisonous spider in her old man's bunk, and the Widow
Howell and I would soon be free of that old coot forever.
Of course Lovey would need to watch for spiders herself once I got my hands
on the Howell fortune.
> This [Ginger or Mary Ann] debate has been timeless...
I'll say it is. Whenever I set up a new server for a client that includes
the SharePoint company web site, I always start things off by putting
up a survey entitled, "Ginger or Mary Ann?"
The sad thing is that there are beginning to be some people who don't get it.
Since we're on it, was there *not* one episode of the show where the
announcer on the radio said, "This is KGU Honolulu"?
I keep thinking it was uttered on an episode, but I'm not sure....maybe it
was in a dream of mine....I just thought it unusual to hear *actual* calls &
COL on a fictional show....
Did this *really* happen?
sincerely
Chris
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Frank Dresser wrote:
>
> "Sir Cumference" <m...@this.moc> wrote in message
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> >
> > Wonder how they powered that S40B with all the tubes?
> >
>
> I don't exactly remember, but it was an early episode, so I suppose there
> was enough juice left in the Minnow's batteries to run a dynamotor.
>
> Frank Dresser
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> Does Yoko Ono count ??
No...and stop your incessant barrage of off topic postings in this
newsgroup.
Now, where were we?..Oh yes..
She's only managed to make it to the EIGHTH most hated position. Note
the rather illustrious criminals who beat her. This is amazing for an
UK based web page.
http://www.hated-celebrities.co.uk/
mike
>Home come the visitors to the island were able to leave but not the
>castaways? Why didn't the visitors report the location of the island
>when they got back to civilization? :-)
I think it they had to sign a waiver saying if they disclosed the
location they could be sued...
; )
all this time its the question that was wrong. it should read; Ginger, Mary
Ann, or both?
Thanks for getting me to clarify an important point. Only the first year of
Gilligan can be properly placed in the Island Noir genre. I know it's hard
to believe, but there are still some people who don't "get it". For them, I
suggest they imagine some cast changes. Picture the Skipper and Gilligan
played by Sidney Greenstreet and Peter Lorre. Mr. and Mrs. Howell played
by Edward G. Robinson and Bette Davis. Ginger portrayed by Veronica Lake.
Of course, the Professor would be Robert Mitchum.
With such a cast, the true nature of the island elite would have been
obvious to even the most doltish, thick-headed viewer. Even some TV critics
might have gotten beyond the question, "Howcum they brought so many
cigarettes for a three hour tour?". But casting the castaways as comedic
figures goes even beyond the brilliance of casting Fred MacMurray as Walter
Neff. In this way, we get to see the other islanders as the trusting,
innocent Mary Ann sees them. It's only as we mature, and listen to enough
domestic shortwave radio, that the lies and moral corruption of Mary Ann's
fellow islanders become apparent.
But those later color episodes in which people start showing up? Well,
those episodes are just plain silly.
Frank Dresser
For goodness sakes, it was a fantasy sitcom to entertain, nothing more.
> For goodness sakes, it was a fantasy sitcom to entertain, nothing more.
>
And Gulliver's Travel's can be read as a children's story and not as a
biting political satire.
I think it's interesting that so many elements of what has become known as
the Globalist New World Order are represented on that bleak, monochromatic
island. The acumen and the stupidity. The mendacity. The authority
unearned by any accomplishment. But most importantly, the central character
who is doomed by her innocent trust.
One can almost hear Alex Jones shouting "Mary Ann, WAKE UP!!"
Frank Dresser
> In this way, we get to see the other islanders as the trusting,
> innocent Mary Ann sees them. It's only as we mature, and listen to enough
> domestic shortwave radio, that the lies and moral corruption of Mary Ann's
> fellow islanders become apparent.
You have a keen eye for the reality, nay, surreality, of the human
condition. Well done.
mike
(thinking..Frank musta bs'd his way through English lit too...)
> And Gulliver's Travel's can be read as a children's story and not as a
> biting political satire.
>
> I think it's interesting that so many elements of what has become known as
> the Globalist New World Order are represented on that bleak, monochromatic
> island. The acumen and the stupidity. The mendacity. The authority
> unearned by any accomplishment. But most importantly, the central character
> who is doomed by her innocent trust.
>
> One can almost hear Alex Jones shouting "Mary Ann, WAKE UP!!"
On a roll, are we?
What next? Dehumanization and destruction of reason as reflected in
"My Mother, the Car"?
'Maynard G. Krebs' as the contrapuntal antisocial evil twin of a
sanitized, bleached and folded parallel universe Gilligan?
Cool, daddy-o...
mike
Thanks, but the credit goes to domestic SW radio. Thirty four years of it,
since the eighth grade when I'd rush home to hear WINB's Rev. Carl McIntyre
explain how the world really worked, has more than supercharged my brain.
I now look like an Alan Maxwell QSL card.
>
>
>
>
> mike
>
>
> (thinking..Frank musta bs'd his way through English lit too...)
Didn't take English Lit in High School. I suppose the Junior College I took
some trade school courses offered English Lit, but I dropped out.
I did get an A in Motorcycle Mechanics.
Frank Dresser
> I did get an A in Motorcycle Mechanics.
Neat. I learned how to set up a Ducati Desmo head in the late
seventies...and how the Brit engines had a left hand thread on the oil
pump gear. The Super Sport 900 Ducati was probably the funnest bike
I've ever owned. I still have a Triumph. It's a 1200 Daytona mind you,
so it doesn't leak. Lots of Nortons over the years...no Commandos though.
I'd like a new Triumph Thruxton in the spring. The Daytona is getting
to be a pain handling in the parking lot. The 560 lb weight and Old
Age, you know. We'll see what the budget looks like next year.
http://www.daworx.com/bikestuff/thruxton.jpg
http://www.mrd-technik.de/tr-04-thruxton900.jpg
mike
I had a Royal Enfield Interceptor back then. Speaking of radio, the
workshop manual gave instructions to convert the bike's wiring so the
alternator would develop full power with the headlight off in order to power
a radio transmitter for police work or what not. The alternator could
provide all of 60 watts at high RPM, and maybe 20 watts at idle. The damn
thing could hardly power the headlight!`
The Interceptor leaked everything. Motor oil. Gear oil from the
transmission. ATF from the clutch/primary chain housing. More motor oil
from one leg of the fork. I wasn't pouring expensive fork oil through that
thing. The other leg of the fork somehow held it's oil. Inconsistent
quality control, I guess.
Actually, I still have the Interceptor. It's all in boxes, so I can't
rightly call it a motorcycle.
Did you have an Atlas? They are rather Interceptor-like.
>
> I'd like a new Triumph Thruxton in the spring. The Daytona is getting
> to be a pain handling in the parking lot. The 560 lb weight and Old
> Age, you know. We'll see what the budget looks like next year.
What, new?
Could be. I haven't watched a GI episode in many years....
Not in the first season, for sure.
I purchased the first season on DVD and I've seen them all with no legal ID
on the radio.
Yes, I admit that bought the first season... those black & white episodes
with the opening theme that calls the professor & Mary Ann "and the rest".
They went to color in year 2 and changed the theme to give credit to Russ &
Dawn.
>> I'll say it is. Whenever I set up a new server for a client that
>> includes
>> the SharePoint company web site, I always start things off by putting
>> up a survey entitled, "Ginger or Mary Ann?"
>>
>> The sad thing is that there are beginning to be some people who don't get
>> it.
> All this time its the question that was wrong. it should read; Ginger,
> Mary
> Ann, or both?
Of course a more politically correct version of the debate could very-well
be:
Ginger, Mary Ann, Gilligan or the Professor!
A timeless debate indeed, but I have always cast my vote for Mary Ann.
Ginger was too snooty and I always felt I ("the boy next door") had a chance
with Mary Ann.
There were two or three made for TV movies about the castaways being
rescued, but Tina Louise didn't appear in them.
I haven't seen any of her more recent work, so I can't judge how she's aged,
but last time I saw Dawn Wells, she still looked hot.
-Jim-
> Of course a more politically correct version of the debate could very-well be:
> Ginger, Mary Ann, Gilligan or the Professor!
> A timeless debate indeed, but I have always cast my vote for Mary Ann.
> Ginger was too snooty and I always felt I ("the boy next door") had a chance with
> Mary Ann.
> There were two or three made for TV movies about the castaways being rescued, but
> Tina Louise didn't appear in them.
> I haven't seen any of her more recent work, so I can't judge how she's aged, but
> last time I saw Dawn Wells, she still looked hot.
According to Who's Alive and Who's Dead
(http://www.whosaliveandwhosdead.com/ldcontent.htm?category=ldtvfilm#Agilligans)
Russell Johnson just turned 80 last month!
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While this thread is still alive I remember when Gilligan's head became a
radio and the skipper mentioned that if there were two of him they could
have stereo. This was years before Kahn am-stereo. Hmmmm :-\
But not years before XETRA (then XTRA) were experimenting with AM stereo
using a sort of split modulation scheme (right channel modulating one
sideband and the left modulating the other). They used this for many years.
I used to be able to use two radios, one tuned to each sideband to listen to
(very poor separation) stereo. The system was called the Kahn ISB system,
which stood for Independant SideBand.
25) The sad AM Stereo Saga
a.. 1960 - AM Stereo first demonstrated on XETRA, Tijuana, MX, using the
Kahn ISB system.
I'm sure that was a joke about stereo, but I seem to recall one of
Gilligan's fillings was acting as a rectifier, in effect a simple crystal
radio. Though how there'd be a signal strong enough to be rectified by
that, no antenna after all, way off on that isolated island, I have no idea.
A similar thing happened on The Partridge Family. Laurie gets braces,
and suddenly she is picking up radio signals.
The explanation was a bit off, because it only happened when some guy
with a transistor radio (one that fit in your palm) was nearby with
the radio playing. The braces might have worked as a rectifier, but
only in the presence of a strong radio signal. The radio would at most
be radiating a weak signal, and the local oscillator which would be
more likely to radiate than the IF would not convey modulation whichis
what Laurie was picking.
The kid with the transistor portable was played by Mark Hamill.
Michael
>> While this thread is still alive I remember when Gilligan's head became a
>> radio and the skipper mentioned that if there were two of him they could
>> have stereo. This was years before Kahn am-stereo. Hmmmm :-\
> But not years before XETRA (then XTRA) were experimenting with AM stereo
> using a sort of split modulation scheme (right channel modulating one
> sideband and the left modulating the other). They used this for many years.
> I used to be able to use two radios, one tuned to each sideband to listen to
> (very poor separation) stereo. The system was called the Kahn ISB system,
> which stood for Independant SideBand.
That's what drewdawg was talking about. Kahn had a prototype of this system on WABC
in the late '50s. At the time, it was an idea called "powerside", because all the
power was in one sideband. The concept was that you could pack more stations into
the spectrum, since each one would only use on side of the channel. I think it was a
bonehead idea, myself.
might have been a goof in the writing or might not have been. Stereo was
invented way back before the 60's. A radio station here once played stereo
records from the 1930's!!!
It just wasn't used much or wasn't popular until later.
I'm pretty sure that people knew what stereo was in the 50's. Although not on
FM radio.
So even if it wa a goof, it can still be explained away.
Today, we know what 3-D tv and holographic tv is, but how many people have
them? ;)
It's my understanding that they can't even do holographic tv yet (unless
possibly if it's only still images instead of moving images), yet we know what
it is.
Back in the 30's and 40's, most people only had radios, but they probably knew
what tv was, and were probably waiting for it to be invented.
And yes, I'm aware that tv was being worked on even back then, and that there
were experimental tv stations broadcasting then.
yes, but women's brain can do something that us dudes' brains can't, which
drives me crazy since the women expect us dudes to always be able to do it, and
we can't.
That is mind-reading. The women expect us dudes to know stuff without being
told, that is completely impossibl for us to know without being told.
Stuff like meeting them at a certain place and time they changed their mind and
decided to be at after leaving the house, without ever telling you where or
when or that they changed their mind while you're still at the house.
Telling you to cook to spaghetti for supper at the house while they go grocery
go shopping, and then when they get back, they're angry at you for making
spaghetti for supper, becaue they changed their mind to wanting you to make
chicken for supper at the grocery store, and expect that you should have known
that they changed their mind to you making chicken for supper insstead of
spaghetti while they were at the grocery store without them ever calling you to
tell you they changed their mind, and without ever teling you they changed
their minds at all, until they get back and yell at you for making spaghetti
for supper that they told you to instead of making chicken for supper that they
changed their mind to while they were away, without ever telling you they did
so.
not as boneheaded as an earlier U.S. government idea
to purposely assign all (and I mean all) broadcast stations in the entire
country to the exact same frequency.
which is exactly what they did.
You can just imagine the interference.
They were all AM mode.
Yeah, but you never missed your favorite programs, even when two or more
were on at the same time.
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