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Mike Maghakian

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Jun 23, 2003, 4:23:52 PM6/23/03
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Twice I looked up some part in the last radio shack catalog and went
into the store to find out the price went from $2 to $3 or $4. and I
know it doesn't cost them more than 25 cents. they sure have outlived
their usefulness to me.

bb...@green.home.org

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Jun 23, 2003, 5:15:15 PM6/23/03
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On 23 Jun 2003 13:23:52 -0700,

as soon as radio shack liquidates the few remaining quality goods it has
left in stock, it will be dead... btw, the parts bins, which i suppose
were brought in to make more display room, are now a real mess in
most stores... before, you'd go in and stare at 'em hanging on the wall,
but now you have to rifle through all the drawers and check adjacent
bins to find what you need - and the quality and quantity of parts is
going down, down, down, while the prices are going up...

R.F. Collins

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Jun 23, 2003, 5:40:53 PM6/23/03
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I try to plan ahead now and order online:
electronic parts: www.mouser.com
computer parts: www.pcprogress.com
audio-video: www.bhphotovideo.com
just to name a few RS replacements.
And no one to ask you if you want a cell phone.

Jim


On 23 Jun 2003 13:23:52 -0700, mikema...@yahoo.com (Mike

Gregg

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Jun 23, 2003, 5:38:37 PM6/23/03
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This is true!

I worked and was trained as a manager for R.S. Canada and over the course
of two years, I watched all our parts walls get "yellow dotted"
(discontinued) and quality home entertainment units replaced with the
worst shite on the planet.

Oddly enough, the profit margin on these remained at 35-60% despite the
reduction in quality.

Their HQ are bastards that demand 60% increases per year in the company
and axe the lowest employees as "their fault" if they don't it! They
welch on extended warranties and use very confusing wording on their
newest sales slips regarding warranties.

The way they treat employees, well, got a few hours?

R.S. since the mid-90's has wanted your wallet - period!

PLEASE, DO NOT BY RADIO SHACK IF YOU HAVE ANY ETHICS!

I could go on for 4000 lines, but won't ;-)

--
Gregg
*It's probably useful, even if it can't be SPICE'd*

Soames123

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Jun 23, 2003, 5:51:42 PM6/23/03
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The Radio Shack near me is
just aboput useless.
I wander in to see if they have any new SWR's on display
I go in there, I get ignored.
noone stops talking to each other long enough to make a sale.

They play the Worst Music on the Surface Of The Earth..

bb...@green.home.org

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Jun 23, 2003, 6:49:55 PM6/23/03
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 17:40:53 -0400, R.F. Collins <rad...@juno.com> wrote:
> I try to plan ahead now and order online:
> electronic parts: www.mouser.com
> computer parts: www.pcprogress.com
> audio-video: www.bhphotovideo.com
> just to name a few RS replacements.
> And no one to ask you if you want a cell phone.
>
> Jim

- this actually brings up a good opportunity:

- translate all RS part numbers to part numbers at jameco, mouser, etc.

- is there such an animal on the Web? (i know there are 'equivalent'
component databases...

"RS: All your parts lists belong to us!"

:-)

Jeff Wilson

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Jun 23, 2003, 7:42:10 PM6/23/03
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They just discontinued their el cheapo Pro-2017 200 channel scanner from
like $90 to $40.

Yesterday, I was running around the LA area trying to find one. I call the
store up before I go there:

"RS, Can I help you?'

"Yeah, do you have any Pro 2017 scanners, sku # 200-0423 in stock and
available?"

--
Jeff Wilson
KG6RIF
Newhall, CA
- Grundig Satellit 700, 800
- Ten-Tec RX-320
- ATS-909

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Jeff Wilson

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Jun 23, 2003, 7:45:04 PM6/23/03
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They just discontinued their el cheapo Pro-2017 200 channel scanner from
like $90 to $40.

Yesterday, I was running around the LA area trying to find one. I call the
store up before I go there:

"RS, Can I help you?'

"Yeah, do you have any Pro 2017 scanners, sku # 200-0423 in stock and
available?"

Silence

RS: "Hold on"

In the distance, I hear the girl say, "Does anyone here know what a scanner
radio is?"

I roll my eyes, she comes back on and says they don't have it. I tell her
the sku and tell her to type it in her computer.

"Oh yeah, we have one of those."

I say I'll be down to pick it up immediately.

I get there, see the radio in the display case, $40 is a steal even for this
bare bones non trunking scanner. I tell them I want to buy it.

They go look for the box. And they continue to look, and look for more, for
15 minutes they can't find the box or power adapter or manual.

"It's probably in the back somewhere, we'll find it and call you."

They are incompetent bastards. I hate them. Find it while I'm in the store.

Anyway, found it at another RS today, going to pick one up that's complete.

--
Jeff Wilson
KG6RIF
Newhall, CA
- Grundig Satellit 700, 800
- Ten-Tec RX-320
- ATS-909

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Thal70

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Jun 23, 2003, 7:56:19 PM6/23/03
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I concur with all the comments on RS quality. I also noticed that all the RS
stores in my area are always filled with customers and with that said, why
can't anyone compete with them? If there's such a demand for their crappy
products, there should indeed be enough of a market for a competitor
offering better quality items. Or should we just accept the fact that the
best there will ever be is Chinese and Taiwanese products.


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Thal70

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Jun 23, 2003, 8:01:07 PM6/23/03
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I was in there looking for ferrite EMI suppressors, and I too had the SKU.
Took 3 people to figure out what I was talking about. I felt like I wasn't
speaking english.


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Gary

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Jun 23, 2003, 11:07:46 PM6/23/03
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From the very first day RADIO SHACK opened its doors, it was NEVER a
store for the real electronics or radio man. It has ALWAYS been a
store for the novice looking for a stereo, phone, batteries, CB
radios, etc. I've never personally ever known any serious electronics
hobbiest to shop at Radio Shack for parts or equipment. It's more of
a place for "the family" to shop. There are plenty of REAL
electronics stores for the serious hobbiest. Radio Shack has been a
very sucessful business as it serves a particular type of customer. I
wouldn't think anyone using this message board would be that type of
customer.

Brenda Ann

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Jun 23, 2003, 11:18:24 PM6/23/03
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"Gary" <garya...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> From the very first day RADIO SHACK opened its doors, it was NEVER a
> store for the real electronics or radio man. It has ALWAYS been a
> store for the novice looking for a stereo, phone, batteries, CB
> radios, etc. I've never personally ever known any serious electronics
> hobbiest to shop at Radio Shack for parts or equipment. It's more of
> a place for "the family" to shop. There are plenty of REAL
> electronics stores for the serious hobbiest. Radio Shack has been a
> very sucessful business as it serves a particular type of customer. I
> wouldn't think anyone using this message board would be that type of
> customer.

I remember the very fisrt Radio Shack stores, before Tandy bought the
franchise. They were then actually quite a good place to buy electronics
components. In fact, Allied (former owner of Radio Shack, now another part
of Tandy, IIRC) still sells components, along with everything in Radio
Shack's catalog (using Radio Shack catalog numbers). If you can get ahold
of an Allied catalog, there is a wealth of stuff in there.


Mark S. Holden

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Jun 23, 2003, 11:43:43 PM6/23/03
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Gary wrote:
>
> From the very first day RADIO SHACK opened its doors, it was NEVER a
> store for the real electronics or radio man. It has ALWAYS been a
> store for the novice looking for a stereo, phone, batteries, CB
> radios, etc. I've never personally ever known any serious electronics
> hobbiest to shop at Radio Shack for parts or equipment. It's more of
> a place for "the family" to shop. There are plenty of REAL
> electronics stores for the serious hobbiest. Radio Shack has been a
> very sucessful business as it serves a particular type of customer. I
> wouldn't think anyone using this message board would be that type of
> customer.

While I've never been impressed with the quality of their consumer electronics, going back 30 or so years ago they had a reasonable selection of parts - at least for the stuff I was building at the time.

But Lafayette Radio & Electronics had a better selection.

Robert

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Jun 24, 2003, 7:05:28 AM6/24/03
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"Gary" <garya...@aol.com> wrote

> From the very first day RADIO SHACK opened its doors, it was NEVER a
> store for the real electronics or radio man. It has ALWAYS been a
> store for the novice looking for a stereo, phone, batteries, CB
> radios, etc. I've never personally ever known any serious electronics
> hobbiest to shop at Radio Shack for parts or equipment.

Well, this is wrong on so many levels....

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Frank Dresser

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Jun 24, 2003, 10:01:37 AM6/24/03
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"Brenda Ann" <bre...@shinbiro.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Gary" <garya...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:fc4afcdc.03062...@posting.google.com...
> > From the very first day RADIO SHACK opened its doors, it was NEVER a
> > store for the real electronics or radio man. It has ALWAYS been a
> > store for the novice looking for a stereo, phone, batteries, CB
> > radios, etc. I've never personally ever known any serious electronics
> > hobbiest to shop at Radio Shack for parts or equipment. It's more of
> > a place for "the family" to shop. There are plenty of REAL
> > electronics stores for the serious hobbiest. Radio Shack has been a
> > very sucessful business as it serves a particular type of customer. I
> > wouldn't think anyone using this message board would be that type of
> > customer.
>

Back in the late 70s - early 80s, Radio Shack was carrying all the stuff to
make those pay-TV descramblers. TI op amps, Motorola IF amp chips, etc.
There were hundreds of photocopies of magazine articles passed around to
anybody with a soldering iron. They also started selling all sorts of odd
special purpose ICs, better quality resistors and caps, etc. Many of those
items were still hanging on the pegs years later, if they hadn't been closed
out at a giveaway price. Radio Shack might not have been an ideal place for
electronics experimenters, but electronics experimenters have hardly been a
goldmine for Radio Shack or anybody else.


> I remember the very fisrt Radio Shack stores, before Tandy bought the
> franchise. They were then actually quite a good place to buy electronics
> components. In fact, Allied (former owner of Radio Shack, now another
part
> of Tandy, IIRC) still sells components, along with everything in Radio
> Shack's catalog (using Radio Shack catalog numbers). If you can get ahold
> of an Allied catalog, there is a wealth of stuff in there.
>
>

Tandy bought Allied sometime around 1970. The deal was broken up over
anti-trust concerns or something like that. I don't think Allied now has
any formal connection with either Tandy or Radio Shack anymore. There was
an Allied franchise store at a mall near me. I remember the Allied-Radio
Shack era.. All the cooler Allied stuff was replaced with weird brand names
like Realistic, Optimus and Micronta. And everything was in a chipboard and
vinyl woodgrain box. Or maybe steel and vinyl wood grain.

I mailordered for my first real multimeter, a Knight-Kit, before it was too
late. The Knight-Kit was made in Japan with some horribly brittle plastic,
but it was a pretty good meter. I ruined the ohms adjust pot well after the
Tandy - Allied breakup, but I sent a letter to Allied in Fort Worth asking
if there was still a replacement pot available, and what would it cost.
Couple of weeks later, a new pot came in the mail, no charge. Cool!

I replaced the Knight-Kit with a Radio Shack Micronta digital meter. It's
really a much better meter. It's very accurate and dependable, and I can
drop it with out it's case shattering into a dozen pieces.

Allied has an online catalog:

http://www.alliedelec.com/

Frank Dresser

Alex V Flinsch

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Jun 24, 2003, 11:14:15 AM6/24/03
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On or about Mon, 23 Jun 2003 23:42:10 +0000, "Jeff Wilson"
<jeff....@santamonicalofts.com> wrote about the following in article
<bd838i$2...@dispatch.concentric.net>:

> They just discontinued their el cheapo Pro-2017 200 channel scanner from
> like $90 to $40.
>
> Yesterday, I was running around the LA area trying to find one. I call the
> store up before I go there:
>
> "RS, Can I help you?'
>
> "Yeah, do you have any Pro 2017 scanners, sku # 200-0423 in stock and
> available?"
>

"Huh? I don't think so, but we do have cell phones.'

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and a lot of that comes from bad judgment"

Gary

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Jun 24, 2003, 11:50:04 AM6/24/03
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"Mark S. Holden" <ma...@bmas.org> wrote in message news:<3EF7C8EF...@bmas.org>...

> While I've never been impressed with the quality of their consumer electronics, going back 30 or so years ago they had a reasonable selection of parts - at least for the stuff I was building at the time.
>
> But Lafayette Radio & Electronics had a better selection.


I always felt that Lafayette was a superior store to Radio Shack and
also Lafayette brand products were superior to Radio Shack brand
products. I miss the old Lafayette stores.

Michael Moore

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Jun 24, 2003, 11:43:50 AM6/24/03
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Gregg wrote:
> I worked and was trained as a manager for R.S. Canada and over the course
> of two years, I watched all our parts walls get "yellow dotted"
> (discontinued) and quality home entertainment units replaced with the
> worst shite on the planet.

Radio Shack Canada, ha! They have much poorer selection than US Radio
Shacks. When I absolutely needed RS items, I had to order them through
Fort Worth and import them to Canada.

What "quality home entertainment units" are you referring to?

--
M2

tedpeterson8

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Jun 24, 2003, 12:53:11 PM6/24/03
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>> "Yeah, do you have any Pro 2017 scanners, sku # 200-0423 in stock and
>> available?"
>>
>
>"Huh? I don't think so, but we do have cell phones.'
>

'You got questions? We got blank stares!'

Gregg

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Jun 24, 2003, 5:07:12 PM6/24/03
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Behold, Michael Moore scribbled:

The JVC and Acoustic Research.

The replacements were Sony ones I swear were factory rejects and the RCA
combo's....I shouldn't have to comment there :rolleyes:

Everybody went nuts (sold 80 in one weekend in a welfare town!!!!) over
the $299 RCA. 6 speakers (incl. sub) + surround amp. They thought it was
the greatest thing in the world. I swear RS could sell horse-shite if the
price tag was right.

"Never underestimate the stupidity of the consumer." - a trainer once told
at a retail lecture.

DC-to-Light

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Jun 24, 2003, 7:30:30 PM6/24/03
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"Lloyd" <Ll...@no.spammmmm> wrote in message
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> ====
> Allied Radio (now known as Allied Electronics) is a company with a
> long eight decade history. It was founded in Chicago, IL. in 1928. Its
> purpose was to distribute radio parts for Columbia Radio Corp. By
> 1932, Allied was selling electronic parts by catalog. Storefront sales
> operations were established with the goal of selling to amateur radio
> operators and electronics experimenters. During WWII, Allied devoted
> itself to the war effort by handling government contracts and
> high-priority industrial needs. This was Allied's first real
> experience in industrial electronics. After the war, Allied continued
> to sell to the consumer and industrial markets. Sometime around 1962,
> Allied Electronics was created as a subsidiary of Allied Radio. In
> 1970, Allied moved its headquarters to Fort Worth, Texas.

Right there! Fort Worth is the Tandy headquarters, and yes, they did own
Allied for awhile.


A. Trent Phillips

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Jun 26, 2003, 12:08:57 AM6/26/03
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I f'ing get annoyed how they don't seem to know jack about even the most
basic things, but they can spew out stuff about cell phones until your
teeth hurt !

ENOUGH WITH THE F'ING CELL PHONES !!!!!

Adam


Thal70 wrote:
> I was in there looking for ferrite EMI suppressors, and I too had the SKU.
> Took 3 people to figure out what I was talking about. I felt like I wasn't
> speaking english.
>

HEAVILY EDITED


>
> "Jeff Wilson" <jeff....@santamonicalofts.com> wrote in message
> news:bd83e0$4...@dispatch.concentric.net...
>
>>They just discontinued their el cheapo Pro-2017 200 channel scanner from
>>like $90 to $40.
>>
>

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